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swardboy
5/17/2015, 07:21 PM
Sooners give WR K.J. Young the boot (NBCSPORTS.COM)

Posted by John Taylor on May 17, 2015, 3:56 PM EDT

The Oklahoma Sooners are the latest team to see some attrition hit its depth chart, although this one doesn’t involve the gaining-in-popularity graduate transfer.
An OU spokesperson confirmed Sunday thatK.J. Young has been dismissed (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-sophomore-wide-receiver-k.j.-young-dismissed-from-the-team/article/5420075) from Bob Stoops‘ football program. Other than the ever-present unspecified violation of team rules, no reason was given for the wide receiver being on the receiving end of his now-former head coach’s boot.

While the Sooners certainly have some talented depth at the position, the loss of Young is not an insignificant one.

In 2014, Young was fourth on the team with 19 receptions and 225 yards. Young wasa three-star member (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-KJ-Young-145714) of OU’s 2013 recruiting class who took a redshirt as a true freshman.
Young is the second OU receiver to be dismissed by Stoops in the last five months. In December, Derrick Woods found himself on the outside of the program looking in for, again, violating unspecified team rules.

He’s also the sixth member of OU’s 2013 recruiting class who’s no longer a Sooner.

Soonerfan88
5/18/2015, 12:14 AM
According to the rumor mill, he failed his third drug test. I hope the weed was worth it.

Breadburner
5/18/2015, 08:47 AM
Smokey Mcsmokerson......!!!

Tear Down This Wall
5/18/2015, 10:01 AM
Idiot. If he'd have just called some girl's boyfriend a fag and, then, broken her cheek and knocked her out, he'd have just gotten a six month "year" suspension; and, he'd still be on the team.

Kids. You'd think they'd look around at their teammates and be able to figure out what is and what isn't acceptable behavior under Stoops/Castiglione/Boren.

Pride1Mom
5/18/2015, 10:08 AM
What is wrong with these young players? Do they not understand the disappointment their parents must feel? Forget about pro football chances, we are talking about a free education that will take care of you for life! Staying in the program (whether you ever get on the field) guarantees contacts that will help you be a success. But even Pat Jones keeps saying you can't help "knuckleheads", that they just don't get it!

I envy anyone who gets a scholarship for school, I had to work full time (40 to 50 hours a week) and go to night school for my degrees, and it took 10 years. But I know there are people that think the rules do not apply to them.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/18/2015, 10:30 AM
Also, Tito Windham is leaving, or transferring, or just gone.

Tear Down This Wall
5/18/2015, 10:38 AM
Tito...we hardly knew ye.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/18/2015, 10:48 AM
Tito...we hardly knew ye.He must have been named after Marshall Tito of Yugoslavia?

cvsooner
5/18/2015, 11:51 AM
He must have been named after Marshall Tito of Yugoslavia?

Tito is the equivalent of Bobby, being the diminutive name of Roberto/Robertito...little Robert, or Bobby.

Learned that in Spanish classes at OU, by the way.

swardboy
5/18/2015, 11:57 AM
Tito is the equivalent of Bobby, being the diminutive name of Roberto/Robertito...little Robert, or Bobby.

Learned that in Spanish classes at OU, by the way.

Proud of that edumacation you got, eh.

Why can't some QB's get kicked off the team so we don't have to wait until August to find out who the starter will be?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/18/2015, 12:01 PM
haha

KantoSooner
5/18/2015, 12:48 PM
Idiot. If he'd have just called some girl's boyfriend a fag and, then, broken her cheek and knocked her out, he'd have just gotten a six month "year" suspension; and, he'd still be on the team.

Kids. You'd think they'd look around at their teammates and be able to figure out what is and what isn't acceptable behavior under Stoops/Castiglione/Boren.

It's my understanding that he had to do 'this' (whatever his infraction was) three times to earn dismissal. I'd agree that smoking up is hardly as severe as punching someone; but doing it, and getting caught, three times in as many years brings some extra issues to the table.

soonergirlNeugene
5/18/2015, 02:43 PM
Hate to lose any receivers. Sure seems like there would be "a lot of opportunity" at that position.

Soonerjeepman
5/18/2015, 03:16 PM
couple of things...

#1 weed is illegal at this point, booze if you're under 21.
#2 Both booze and weed IF you are a top athlete is not the smartest thing to do.
#3 They see pro athletes do it...

#4 THE BIGGEST--- Not sure of KJ's home life, but most of these kids come from single parent, usually no dad, they just don't look very far past today. Even my GF's daughter's friend...her parents (White, upper class, both parents) have told their daughter, a Jr in HS, that's okay to smoke weed..have sex.

KantoSooner
5/18/2015, 03:55 PM
Jeep, That's why one infraction doesn't earn a dismissal. Stoops, et al, understand that some of these kids are, #1 kids and #2 might not have had the best in guidance to date.
Repeat offenses, however, mean that the lesson hasn't sunk in and that authority is being defied. And if there's any 'rule' of keeping an organization running it's that the HMFIC should show mercy, at least once, but can never accept repeated defiance.

Tear Down This Wall
5/18/2015, 04:19 PM
If feel bad for kids these days. I've got two nephews who went to school last year. One got busted for smoking dope in the dorm bathroom. And, it just didn't seem like a big deal to him.

Both nephews grew up without dads. One due to divorce. The other, the one caught with dope, never had a dad; the sperm donor abandoned his mom when he found out she was pregnant.

This kid, now that the semester is over, is living with us. I arranged with my sister-in-law to have him come work as an intern for me this summer while he sorts out "what he wants to do next" - school or work.

It's been eye-opening to see the attitude of this kid; and, I assume it's this way with most kids these days. Growing up, this kid never got in trouble. He lettered in track and was in the marching band. He was involved in church projects. His senior year, on top of all of that, got a part-time job.

But, he goes off to college and is caught with dope. I've explained to him that it doesn't matter whether or not dope is legal or illegal - it's not smart to mess with it. Same with alcohol.

It's like a new concept for him, though. They preach that it's no big deal when, really, it is. It's a brain killer and a motivation killer. And, spare me the outlier stories.

Anyway, we're in our third week, and progress - in my view - is being made. After the first week, of his own accord, he went out and got his hair cut short. It had been long and shaggy. The first day in the office, he even wore a baseball cap in backward.

I didn't tell him to cut his hair or drop the cap. I think he just kind of observed that no one else in the office - or in the office building - looked shaggy and unkempt.

Last week, he also shaved off his scraggly beard. He had one of those awful beards that kids grow out these days. Again, I didn't say anything to him. But, I can tell you that while taking him on sales calls and being at the office, he probably just saw that the professional people he was seeing during the day were clean cut.

I'm pretty enocourage by it. But, you can see how a kid like him, and like many college athletes, fall into stupid behavior. He's got no dad. Never knew his dad. Never heard anything good or bad about dope. Just kind of floated along with it until it got him in trouble.

In some ways, you have to take a kid where he is and try to square him up. With my nephew - as I suspect with most kids that Stoops gives a second chance - they square themselves up after looking around and seeing other squared up people succeeding.

Too bad K.J. Young won't get more opportunities to do that here. You hope he does somehow get the message to stop wasting his time getting wasted; and, thus, can get off with real life in a meaningful way.

EatLeadCommie
5/18/2015, 04:39 PM
Maybe weed is why our receivers have looked a bit slow on the field the last few years (outside of Shep, of course).

KantoSooner
5/18/2015, 09:21 PM
You and I agree on next to nothing, but you're doing the best thing a man can do right now: being a dad/uncle/big bro, whatever. Hang in there! It won't always be easy but it 'needs doing'.

Soonerjeepman
5/19/2015, 08:17 AM
Jeep, That's why one infraction doesn't earn a dismissal. Stoops, et al, understand that some of these kids are, #1 kids and #2 might not have had the best in guidance to date.
Repeat offenses, however, mean that the lesson hasn't sunk in and that authority is being defied. And if there's any 'rule' of keeping an organization running it's that the HMFIC should show mercy, at least once, but can never accept repeated defiance.

oh, I totally agree...just responding to the post about not understanding why these kids don't "get it"...

Soonerjeepman
5/19/2015, 08:21 AM
Tear...good for you.

My GF's kids were / are abandoned by their dad. He just stop seeing them, the girl when she was 15, the boy this last summer at age 9. He's such a POS. I've got a 23 and 19 yr old. The 19 yr old plays college baseball but had some issues...and is transferring to another school..his last chance. (grades not dope).

I got divorced when they were 18/15 but I always stayed in their lives, daily.

Tear Down This Wall
5/19/2015, 01:19 PM
You and I agree on next to nothing, but you're doing the best thing a man can do right now: being a dad/uncle/big bro, whatever. Hang in there! It won't always be easy but it 'needs doing'.

Yeah, but in the end, it all has to come from him. I can't make him do anything.

He's got a buddy - one year out of high school - didn't go to college, just got some sort of "job" job, and was selling dope and meth on the side. He was caught and put in jail.

Whatever my real world examples are to him, he's seeing it all play out with his childhood buddy now.

It's just not a good thing to mess around with. Part of the reason I got the nephew up here is that once his buddy got arrested things got real-er. I mean, he's hanging around the same kids in that town once he's home from college, right? So, I told my wife, look, let's have your nephew live with us, a can put him to work as an intern, and maybe he doesn't go down the same road as his drug buddy.

They live in a small town/city outside of Fort Worth. We're about an hour and a half to two hours away in the Metroplex; so, he can't be hanging around with the night after night. I figured stepping in sooner rather than later might be the right thing to do; and, while he's still young enough to turn it around and not keep making the wrong choice...about a drug society keeps telling him is no big deal.

TheHumanAlphabet
5/20/2015, 12:31 PM
What is wrong with these young players? Do they not understand the disappointment their parents must feel? Forget about pro football chances, we are talking about a free education that will take care of you for life! Staying in the program (whether you ever get on the field) guarantees contacts that will help you be a success. But even Pat Jones keeps saying you can't help "knuckleheads", that they just don't get it!

I envy anyone who gets a scholarship for school, I had to work full time (40 to 50 hours a week) and go to night school for my degrees, and it took 10 years. But I know there are people that think the rules do not apply to them.

Mom, they don't GAS about parents and education...they are all about playing sports doing what they want to and not so much about education. I don't know K.J's particular circumstance, but much of this can be blamed on lack of a nuclear family, IMO.

Pride1Mom
5/21/2015, 11:41 AM
I just think this society's values are all screwed up! My mother was a widow at the age of 33, with three kids to care for, and she did it on her own! She taught us that the only helping hand is the one at the end of your sleeve. We were taught responsibility to take care of what we had, because the only thing you truly own is your name, and there are always consequences on how you decide to live.

I sound OLD FASHION, but the youth of today have no guidance, or ignore it when it is given to them. I know that the OU has programs for disadvantaged youth, but they can only do so much...you can't fix stupid.

Eielson
5/21/2015, 12:15 PM
I always hear stories about how great the older generation was than mine. Then I get the facts, and shucks...turns out they were just as bad or worse in a lot of ways. I've come to the conclusion that every older generation thinks the newer one is lazy, ruining the world, etc.

olevetonahill
5/21/2015, 01:30 PM
I always hear stories about how great the older generation was than mine. Then I get the facts, and shucks...turns out they were just as bad or worse in a lot of ways. I've come to the conclusion that every older generation thinks the newer one is lazy, ruining the world, etc.

Naw it aint the Younger generations my friend. Its the God damn Liberal Dems. Yer welcome

KantoSooner
5/21/2015, 01:31 PM
It's funny, Eielson, you can go back to the Old Testament, Aristotle or Kung Fu Tsu and find the same carping. The young 'uns just don't pay their elders proper respect. And they're noisy and have bad taste in music, to boot.
I came of age in the 1970's and all we heard about was how we hadn't ever 'committed' to a cause like the '60's people...when all it really seemed like they had done was to burn through the accumulated wealth of three centuries in one epic decade long party.
As to the 'responsibility' of previous generations, a casual stroll through public statistics over the past two centuries has made me pretty happy to live today. Alcohol/substance abuse, rape, incest, physical violence, child abandonment, malnutrition and general misery were far higher in the 19th century than today. And you don't have to decode 'The Honeymooners' very far to realize that those trends didn't go away in the first half of the 20th either.