Lindsey Graham demands Citizenship for Illegals

[okie52]

Lindsey Graham: Immigration Reform Must Include Path to Citizenship
Thursday, 07 May 2015 09:25 PM
By Joel Himelfarb

Sen. Lindsey Graham says he is "98.6 percent sure" that he will seek the GOP presidential nomination and promises to approach illegal immigration in a different way from other GOP contenders, USA Today reported Thursday.

The South Carolina Republican, a close political ally of Arizona Sen. John McCain, the 2008 GOP presidential nominee, is expected to formally announce his candidacy in the next few weeks.

Like McCain, Graham, 59, is a leading national security hawk and an ardent advocate of bipartisan "immigration reform."

In the interview with USA Today, Graham said that if he were elected to the Oval Office, he would not approve any immigration measure that did not include a way for illegal immigrants to become U.S. citizens.

"If I were president of the United States, I would veto any bill that did not have a pathway to citizenship," Graham said, adding that his would be a "long, hard path."

Graham said it is essential to ensure that the path exists "because I don't like the idea of millions of people living in America for the rest of their lives being the hired help. That's not who we are."

He added that the Republican Party faces electoral disaster in 2016 if it takes a hard line on illegal immigration.

"We'll lose," said. "I mean, we've got a big hole we've dug with Hispanics. We've gone from 44 percent of the Hispanic vote [in the 2004 presidential election] to 27 percent [in 2012]. You'll never convince me ... it's not because of the immigration debate."

Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton criticized GOP opposition to amnesty on Tuesday, declaring that if elected she would expand President Obama's executive order permitting illegals who entered the U.S. as children to avoid deportation.

Clinton contrasted her own support for a path to citizenship for illegals with GOP opposition to the idea.

"Make no mistake: Not a single Republican candidate, announced or potential, is clearly and consistently supporting a path to citizenship — not one," she said.

With Graham's likely announcement, that is no longer true, USA Today's Susan Page wrote. Although Graham has opposed Obama's use of executive orders to protect illegals, the South Carolina senator's position on citizenship "puts him closer to Clinton than to any of his GOP rivals on immigration," Page added.

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This stupid azzhole can't do the math. One time in the last 40 years have the pubs gotten over 40% of the hispanic vote and he wants to believe that's the norm. Even McCain was in the low 30's in 2008 just 2 years after he sponsored an immigration amnesty bill with Kennedy. Daddy Bush got 30% just 2 years after the Reagan/Bush administration passed amnesty in 86.

But Graham has certainly made it clear that he is in Hillary's corner on amnesty...but that's nothing new. He's been there all along. He may be the worst pub candidate in the field. What an embarrassment for South Carolina and the pubs.

The good news is that he barely registers in the polls.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Paul/Walker 2016.

[champions77]

This stupid azzhole can't do the math. One time in the last 40 years have the pubs gotten over 40% of the hispanic vote and he wants to believe that's the norm. Even McCain was in the low 30's in 2008 just 2 years after he sponsored an immigration amnesty bill with Kennedy. Daddy Bush got 30% just 2 years after the Reagan/Bush administration passed amnesty in 86.

But Graham has certainly made it clear that he is in Hillary's corner on amnesty...but that's nothing new. He's been there all along. He may be the worst pub candidate in the field. What an embarrassment for South Carolina and the pubs.

The good news is that he barely registers in the polls.

Another one of those Pubs that has moved the Party to the left. And unfortunately the GOP has an abundance of these pinhead lawmakers sympathetic to those that disrespect our laws.

The GOP has made it clear for years that no substantive discussions regarding immigration reform can occur until the border is secure. This was communicated to the Messiah on countless occasions, and as excuse for doing his illegal executive amnesty act, he cried out that the GOP had made no movement towards Immigration Reform.

Again, secure the border, first and foremost. Nothing else can be decided until that is done. For goodness sake, secure it just based on the terrorists considerations alone.

If this country can't come to a consensus on something as common sense as this, then we are doomed. Open borders are not good for any reason. None.

[olevetonahill]

Maybe we should vote fer Billary!

She against it
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/07/uncovered-audio-hillary-was-adamantly-against-illegal-immigrants/

[okie52]

Paul/Walker 2016.

So far that's sounding as good as any.

[okie52]

Maybe we should vote fer Billary!

She against it
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/07/uncovered-audio-hillary-was-adamantly-against-illegal-immigrants/

I guess she misremembered again.

[Serenity Now]

Lindey needs to man up, or at least lady down a little.

*heard on Veep last week.

[Turd_Ferguson]

So far that's sounding as good as any.

Hell, maybe even Paul/Fiorina if that'll get the womens excited.

[okie52]

Another one of those Pubs that has moved the Party to the left. And unfortunately the GOP has an abundance of these pinhead lawmakers sympathetic to those that disrespect our laws.

The GOP has made it clear for years that no substantive discussions regarding immigration reform can occur until the border is secure. This was communicated to the Messiah on countless occasions, and as excuse for doing his illegal executive amnesty act, he cried out that the GOP had made no movement towards Immigration Reform.

Again, secure the border, first and foremost. Nothing else can be decided until that is done. For goodness sake, secure it just based on the terrorists considerations alone.

If this country can't come to a consensus on something as common sense as this, then we are doomed. Open borders are not good for any reason. None.

Yeah Border Security would seem like it should have been a priority years ago as it was supposed to have been following Reagan's misguided amnesty. But now the dems are only going to agree to better border security if a pathway to citizenship is part of the deal.

[okie52]

Lindey needs to man up, or at least lady down a little.

*heard on Veep last week.

Heh heh...

[champions77]

Yeah Border Security would seem like it should have been a priority years ago as it was supposed to have been following Reagan's misguided amnesty. But now the dems are only going to agree to better border security if a pathway to citizenship is part of the deal.

The Dems had "promised" Reagan the tightened border security if he would agree to Amnesty is what I recall. Kind of like the Dems promised Bush 41 some spending cuts if he reneged on the "Read my lips, no new taxes pledge" and raised taxes. In both cases this country suffered as a result of forgotten promises, or as some would say, nothing but lies as they had no intentions in keeping their word in either example.

The lesson learned here? Don't trust the sorry Democrats. They'll screw you and the country without any reservation.

[Serenity Now]

They'll screw you and the country without any reservation.
I can't find that Saul Alinsky quote that is so fitting here.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I can't find that Saul Alinsky quote that is so fitting here.

Get the LBJ one, it's even better.

[olevetonahill]

Get the LBJ one, it's even better.

This one?
https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQAK5PPZxfWEtskJ&w=470&h=246&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpatdollard.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2FBfkjgeVCcAAPmb8.jp g_large.jpeg&cfs=1&upscale=1&sx=0&sy=152&sw=592&sh=310

[Turd_Ferguson]

That was eggzackly the one I was thinking of...

[Turd_Ferguson]

Heh, wonder if those dems got their sheets clean...

[olevetonahill]

That was eggzackly the one I was thinking of...

I'd never heard of it till a few weeks ago.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I'd never heard of it till a few weeks ago.

It was taken out of context!

[TheHumanAlphabet]

The end of this country as a world leader and a technological behemoth is at an end; never thought I would see it in my lifetime...

[Serenity Now]

The end of this country as a world leader and a technological behemoth is at an end; never thought I would see it in my lifetime...

That started with NAFTA.

[FaninAma]

That started with NAFTA.
That was certainly a contributor as was GATT. Now, somebody remind me who was President when both of these measures were enacted.

[champions77]

That was certainly a contributor as was GATT. Now, somebody remind me who was President when both of these measures were enacted.

The Socialist Party?, I mean the Democratic party?

Just a wild guess.

[Serenity Now]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

Signed under Bush 1.

I blame Clinton for not killing it.

[Serenity Now]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement#/media/File:Nafta.jpg

[Turd_Ferguson]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

Signed under Bush 1.

I blame Clinton for not killing it.

Why the **** would he kill it? He's the one that signed it into law.



Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."

[Serenity Now]

It was ratified under Clinton but negotiated and ceremonially signed under George HW Bush in December of 1992.

[Turd_Ferguson]

It was ratified under Clinton but negotiated and ceremonially signed under George HW Bush in December of 1992.

Yeah, so what's your point?

[SicEmBaylor]

Graham is a pole smoker.

[Serenity Now]

Yeah, so what's your point?

You don't read well, huh?

[Turd_Ferguson]

You don't read well, huh?

Read just fine, thanks. I'm just wondering what your point is. You keep bringing up Boosh 1 when Clinton signed it into law...not ceremonially, but legally.

[Serenity Now]

Did you look at either link? There's a picture of bush signing it.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

The pubs are the party of free trade. Clinton was a liberal pub. He had more support from congressional pubs than donks on NAFTA/


The liberal union a$$-kissing donks were anti-NAFTA.

The Senate vote was 61 to 38. As was the case earlier in the House, Republicans supplied the most support, accounting for 34 of the favorable votes to 27 from the Democrats.

Some of y'all are in bed with Barbara Boxer on this one. She voted against it.

[Serenity Now]

The pubs are the party of free trade. Clinton was a liberal pub. He had more support from congressional pubs than donks on NAFTA/


The liberal union a$$-kissing donks were anti-NAFTA.

The Senate vote was 61 to 38. As was the case earlier in the House, Republicans supplied the most support, accounting for 34 of the favorable votes to 27 from the Democrats.

Some of y'all are in bed with Barbara Boxer on this one. She voted against it.

I always assumed it was a Clinton deal until i read about it during this thread. Thanks for educating me right wing folks. I can blame bush1 for it.

[FaninAma]

Did you look at either link? There's a picture of bush signing it.
So that relieves Clinton of his role in that fiasco?

BTW, are you guys condemning Obama for trying to ram through the new Asian free trade agreement?

[TheHumanAlphabet]

This TPP and TAP needs to be shot down...

[Serenity Now]

So that relieves Clinton of his role in that fiasco?

BTW, are you guys condemning Obama for trying to ram through the new Asian free trade agreement?

As I said, my criticism of him is still there because he didn't kill it. I assumed he was responsible for it.

Asian thing: I'm agin it. I don't understand why. I'd reach out to my Rep, Markwayne Mullin who will surely be against it as well. He'd be against creating free energy from desalenating salt water if Obama was for it.

[TAFBSooner]

As I said, my criticism of him is still there because he didn't kill it. I assumed he was responsible for it.

Asian thing: I'm agin it. I don't understand why. I'd reach out to my Rep, Markwayne Mullin who will surely be against it as well. He'd be against creating free energy from desalenating salt water if Obama was for it.

Tried to research that for you. All the top Google results were about ethics investigations.

[TAFBSooner]

So that relieves Clinton of his role in that fiasco?

No, it doesn't. NAFTA was a bipartisan attack on the working class of this country.

And of Mexico for that matter. If you hate Mexican immigration, vote to kill NAFTA.


BTW, are you guys condemning Obama for trying to ram through the new Asian free trade agreement?

A thousand times Yes! He's lying to us all, and setting up his post-presidency being supported by Wall Street.

[TAFBSooner]

Lots of discussion about who to blame for NAFTA. That implies you're against it. Was anybody for it at the time? Is anybody for TPP now? If so, why?

[Turd_Ferguson]

I'm down with OPP.