so what are the odds...

[yermom]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1466


H.R.1466 - To repeal the USA PATRIOT Act and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, and for other purposes.

will be interesting to see how some of those "smaller government" folks respond to this.

[olevetonahill]

Im all for the repeal of that act. One of my biggest deals against Bush

[SicEmBaylor]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1466



will be interesting to see how some of those "smaller government" folks respond to this.

I think the Patriot Act is one of the most tyrannical pieces of legislation in American history, and anyone who supports it is unqualified to be President.

[Turd_Ferguson]

It'll never be repealed. Too much nib ****'n the government wouldn't be able to do without it. Boosh should've had his nuts kicked in for it.

[Ton Loc]

I think the Patriot Act is one of the most tyrannical pieces of legislation in American history, and anyone who supports it is unqualified to be President.

I agree, but they'll never get rid of the damn thing.

[rock on sooner]

It'll never be repealed. Too much nib ****'n the government wouldn't be able to do without it. Boosh should've had his nuts kicked in for it.

Pretty sure that history will do the honors for Bush's gonads. While I agree
with how bad the Act was, look back over history and look at how the gubment
reacted to different "threats"...start with native Americans then the treatment
of the Confederate troops toward the end of the Civil War and right after it,
Japanese interment camps right after Pearl Harbor, German POW camps,
McCarthyism, the Patriot Act....all these things were pretty much knee jerk
reactions by gubment knuckleheads...

[olevetonahill]

Pretty sure that history will do the honors for Bush's gonads. While I agree
with how bad the Act was, look back over history and look at how the gubment
reacted to different "threats"...start with native Americans then the treatment
of the Confederate troops toward the end of the Civil War and right after it,
Japanese interment camps right after Pearl Harbor, German POW camps,
McCarthyism, the Patriot Act....all these things were pretty much knee jerk
reactions by gubment knuckleheads...

On BOTH sides of the fence. No party is immune

[rock on sooner]

On BOTH sides of the fence. No party is immune

Yup...

[TAFBSooner]

Pretty sure that history will do the honors for Bush's gonads. While I agree
with how bad the Act was, look back over history and look at how the gubment
reacted to different "threats"...start with native Americans then the treatment
of the Confederate troops toward the end of the Civil War and right after it,
Japanese interment camps right after Pearl Harbor, German POW camps,
McCarthyism, the Patriot Act....all these things were pretty much knee jerk
reactions by gubment knuckleheads...

I thought the WWII German POWs were treated pretty well - enough so that a few of them opted to resettle in the US after the war. Could be just propaganda . . .

To add to your list: the Alien and Sedition Acts, jailing of protesters against WWI, and before Sic'Em gets to it, Lincoln's suppression of have-us the corpse-us. One big difference between all those earlier hits on our rights and the self-styled Patriot Act is that the others were temporary. A bill to kill the ssPA is worth calling my representatives about.

[rock on sooner]

I thought the WWII German POWs were treated pretty well - enough so that a few of them opted to resettle in the US after the war. Could be just propaganda . . .

To add to your list: the Alien and Sedition Acts, jailing of protesters against WWI, and before Sic'Em gets to it, Lincoln's suppression of have-us the corpse-us. One big difference between all those earlier hits on our rights and the self-styled Patriot Act is that the others were temporary. A bill to kill the ssPA is worth calling my representatives about.

About the Germans, I have heard it both ways, so hard to say. They were more
afraid of the Russians...guess we got them here because the Brits didn't have
room.....

[okie52]

Weird that we would ship them here rather than keep them in Europe. Ft Reno was a German POW camp, if I recall correctly.

[olevetonahill]

Weird that we would ship them here rather than keep them in Europe. Ft Reno was a German POW camp, if I recall correctly.

Camp Gruber
http://www.3riversmuseum.com/camp-gruber-the-war-years.html

[rock on sooner]

I did a little looking at wikipedia... 425000 German pow's in about 700 camps
around the country...most in the South...shipped here because the Brits didn't
have room. The transport was done by returning Liberty ships that otherwise
would have come back empty...at least one escapee...lived under assumed name
in New Mexico and Colorado...turned himself in on the Today show in the 1980's.
Consensus was that the Germans were really surprised at how humane they were
treated and most spoke highly of America.....