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Sooner in Tampa
3/4/2015, 09:08 AM
Hmmm...it sure looks like she went pretty far to ensure her email is secure and nothing can come back to haunt her...buy why?


WASHINGTON (AP) - The computer server that transmitted and received Hillary Rodham Clinton's emails - on a private account she used exclusively for official business when she was secretary of state - traced back to an Internet service registered to her family's home in Chappaqua, New York, according to Internet records reviewed by The Associated Press.

The highly unusual practice of a Cabinet-level official physically running her own email would have given Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate, impressive control over limiting access to her message archives. It also would distinguish Clinton's secretive email practices as far more sophisticated than some politicians, including Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin, who were caught conducting official business using free email services operated by Microsoft Corp. and Yahoo Inc.


Most Internet users rely on professional outside companies, such as Google Inc. or their own employers, for the behind-the-scenes complexities of managing their email communications. Government employees generally use servers run by federal agencies where they work.

In most cases, individuals who operate their own email servers are technical experts or users so concerned about issues of privacy and surveillance they take matters into their own hands. It was not immediately clear exactly where Clinton ran that computer system.

Clinton has not described her motivation for using a private email account - [email protected], which traced back to her own private email server registered under an apparent pseudonym - for official State Department business.

Operating her own server would have afforded Clinton additional legal opportunities to block government or private subpoenas in criminal, administrative or civil cases because her lawyers could object in court before being forced to turn over any emails. And since the Secret Service was guarding Clinton's home, an email server there would have been well protected from theft or a physical hacking.
But homemade email servers are generally not as reliable, secure from hackers or protected from fires or floods as those in commercial data centers. Those professional facilities provide monitoring for viruses or hacking attempts, regulated temperatures, off-site backups, generators in case of power outages, fire-suppression systems and redundant communications lines.

A spokesman for Clinton did not respond to requests seeking comment from the AP on Tuesday. Clinton ignored the issue during a speech Tuesday night at the 30th anniversary gala of EMILY's List, which works to elect Democratic women who support abortion rights.

It was unclear whom Clinton hired to set up or maintain her private email server, which the AP traced to a mysterious identity, Eric Hoteham. That name does not appear in public records databases, campaign contribution records or Internet background searches. Hoteham was listed as the customer at Clinton's $1.7 million home on Old House Lane in Chappaqua in records registering the Internet address for her email server since August 2010.
The Hoteham personality also is associated with a separate email server, presidentclinton.com, and a non-functioning website, wjcoffice.com, all linked to the same residential Internet account as Mrs. Clinton's email server. The former president's full name is William Jefferson Clinton.

In November 2012, without explanation, Clinton's private email account was reconfigured to use Google's servers as a backup in case her own personal email server failed, according to Internet records. That is significant because Clinton publicly supported Google's accusations in June 2011 that China's government had tried to break into the Google mail accounts of senior U.S. government officials. It was one of the first instances of a major American corporation openly accusing a foreign government of hacking.
Then, in July 2013, five months after she resigned as secretary of state, Clinton's private email server was reconfigured again to use a Denver-based commercial email provider, MX Logic, which is now owned by McAfee Inc., a top Internet security company.

The New York Times reported Monday that Clinton exclusively used a personal email account it did not specify to conduct State Department business. The disclosure raised questions about whether she took actions to preserve copies of her old work-related emails, as required by the Federal Records Act. A Clinton spokesman, Nick Merrill, told the newspaper that Clinton complied with the letter and spirit of the law because her advisers reviewed tens of thousands of pages of her personal emails to decide which ones to turn over to the State Department after the agency asked for them.

In theory but not in practice, Clinton's official emails would be accessible to anyone who requested copies under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act. Under the law, citizens and foreigners can compel the government to turn over copies of federal records for zero or little cost. Since Clinton effectively retained control over emails in her private account even after she resigned in 2013, the government would have to negotiate with Clinton to turn over messages it can't already retrieve from the inboxes of federal employees she emailed.

The AP has waited more than a year under the open records law for the State Department to turn over some emails covering Clinton's tenure as the nation's top diplomat, although the agency has never suggested that it didn't possess all her emails.
Clinton's private email account surfaced publicly in March 2013 after a convicted Romanian hacker known as Guccifer published emails stolen from former White House adviser Sidney Blumenthal. The Internet domain was registered around the time of her secretary of state nomination.

Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., chairman of the special House committee investigating the Benghazi attacks, said the committee learned last summer - when agency documents were turned over to the committee - that Clinton had used a private email account while secretary of state. More recently the committee learned that she used private email accounts exclusively and had more than one, Gowdy said.
President Barack Obama signed a bill last year that bans the use of private email accounts by government officials unless they retain copies of messages in their official account or forward copies to their government accounts within 20 days. The bill did not become law until more than one year after Clinton left the State Department.

TheHumanAlphabet
3/4/2015, 10:05 AM
Charges to be filed...in 3...2...1... Oh wait, she is elitist ruling class, nevermind, nothing to see here, move along...

SoonerProphet
3/4/2015, 10:53 AM
Some shady sh!t right there. And you are right, she is part of the governing class so rules do not apply.

Sooner in Tampa
3/4/2015, 01:07 PM
http://ryoc.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Hillary-Clinton-What-Does-It-Matter.jpg

ouwasp
3/4/2015, 01:28 PM
Nothing will come of this. I refuse to get my hopes up.

okie52
3/4/2015, 01:36 PM
No nothing will come of it. The press won't crucify an ex combat veteran like Hillary.

Turd_Ferguson
3/4/2015, 01:40 PM
Nothing will come of this. I refuse to get my hopes up.

I keep thinking about how the donks will respond to these types of issues in the debates, but I'm quite sure whoever the R is probably will never even bring it up. We're all ****ed.

yermom
3/4/2015, 02:58 PM
You can bet this is the new status quo soon.

What is illegal about it?

okie52
3/4/2015, 03:10 PM
You can bet this is the new status quo soon.

What is illegal about it?

Sounds like some of W's administration was chastized for doing the same thing (or close to it).


Hillary Clinton's personal email account looks bad now. But it was even worse at the time.
Updated by Max Fisher on March 2, 2015, 10:58 p.m. ET @Max_Fisher [email protected]

http://www.vox.com/2015/3/2/8138203/clinton-emails-bush

Sooner in Tampa
3/4/2015, 03:21 PM
You can bet this is the new status quo soon.

What is illegal about it?

President Barack Obama signed a bill last year that bans the use of private email accounts by government officials unless they retain copies of messages in their official account or forward copies to their government accounts within 20 days. The bill did not become law until more than one year after Clinton left the State Department.

Sooner in Tampa
3/4/2015, 03:25 PM
Sounds like some of W's administration was chastized for doing the same thing (or close to it).



http://www.vox.com/2015/3/2/8138203/clinton-emails-bush

I don't care who does it...it is slimey and now it's illegal.


Perhaps even more stunning is that the Obama White House, whose top officials were presumably exchanging frequent emails with Clinton, apparently did not insist she adopt an official email account. At some point during Obama's first year, there must have been at least one senior official who dealt with the political fallout of Karl Rove using a personal address, then turned around and fired off an email to the personal address that Hillary Clinton used exclusively. That this continued for four years is baffling.

okie52
3/4/2015, 03:35 PM
It's obviously an attempt to hide emails...no doubt about it.

BetterSoonerThanLater
3/4/2015, 03:45 PM
i wish she could hide her face.....

FaninAma
3/4/2015, 07:00 PM
The sad thing about this is that several House committees chaired by Republicans said they didn't find any evidence of wrongdoing by the Obama administration. The report from that idiot Mike Rogers jumps to mind. They didn't have any e-mails from Hilliary. So were they trying to help Obama sweep this under the rug? With a few exceptions the Republican Party is worthless.

Sooner8th
3/5/2015, 01:01 PM
http://ryoc.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Hillary-Clinton-What-Does-It-Matter.jpg


Stop listening to tyler durden and look something up.

Origins: Former First Lady Hillary Clinton is no stranger to political scandal and controversy, and
By Zeifman's own admission there is not. Statements made by Zeifman himself contradict the claim he fired Hillary Clinton. During a 1998 interview with the Sacramento Bee in which he discussed his work with Clinton on Watergate, Zeifman not only stated he hadn't fired her, but he didn't even have the authority to fire her:If I had the power to fire her, I would have fired her.
Ten years later, Zeifman's story had shifted. When asked by radio host Neal Boortz in April 2008 if he had fired Hillary Clinton from the Watergate investigation, Zeifman hedged by stating Clinton had been let go, but only as part of a layoff of multiple personnel who were no longer needed:Well, let me put it this way. I terminated her, along with some other staff members who were — we no longer needed, and advised her that I would not — could not recommend her for any further positions.
Following Zeifman's 2008 interview with Boortz, a column by Dan Calabrese ("FLASHBACK: HILLARY CLINTON FIRED FROM WATERGATE INVESTIGATION FOR 'LYING, UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR'") cemented the belief that Hillary Clinton had been "fired" from the Watergate investigation in political lore:Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation — one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman's 17-year career.
However, one need only go back to the source of the rumor and Zeifman's own statement that he did not have the power to fire Hillary Clinton to discount that now common version of political lore: the evidence indicates that, whatever Zeifman may have thought of Clinton's behavior, she was let go from the Watergate committee because she was one of a number of people who were no longer needed as the investigation wound down (and Nixon's resignation made the issue moot), not because she was "fired" over ethical issues.

Last updated: 21 October 2014
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp#dip21X7ZGggB2JhQ.99

hawaii 5-0
3/5/2015, 01:11 PM
I keep thinking about how the donks will respond to these types of issues in the debates, but I'm quite sure whoever the R is probably will never even bring it up. We're all ****ed.


Or it could be that they're just as guilty.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/04/it-s-not-just-hillary-scott-walker-s-email-controversy.html


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Sooner8th
3/5/2015, 01:14 PM
Or it could be that they're just as guilty.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/04/it-s-not-just-hillary-scott-walker-s-email-controversy.html


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Palin had two accounts - one official and one private.

Sooner in Tampa
3/5/2015, 01:32 PM
^^^^^^^^^ Troll ^^^^^^^^^^^

Lying, stinking, no paragraph writing, worthless POS troll. Proven liar. Copy and paste plagiarist thief. Lowlife, ignorant scum.

TheHumanAlphabet
3/5/2015, 02:03 PM
Given the noise from the LWM, billary is sounding more and more like a dead man walking at least for the Presidency... I know she has 9 lives, but not sure she can survive this...

Sooner in Tampa
3/5/2015, 02:40 PM
Given the noise from the LWM, billary is sounding more and more like a dead man walking at least for the Presidency... I know she has 9 lives, but not sure she can survive this...
One can only hope...

hawaii 5-0
3/5/2015, 03:24 PM
If the Repubs still can't front someone better........

Does any Repub have a plan, a vision ?

Middle East, Immigration, Jobs, Health Care, etc.


Treating ISIS like some union workers ain't gonna cut it.

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rock on sooner
3/5/2015, 03:35 PM
If the Repubs still can't front someone better........

Does any Repub have a plan, a vision ?

Middle East, Immigration, Jobs, Health Care, etc.


Treating ISIS like some union workers ain't gonna cut it.

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Since I'm here in Iowa and the Pub dog and pony show is in full
swing already, the answer to your question is "nope!" At least,
not yet....

hawaii 5-0
3/6/2015, 02:30 AM
Well, you won't see Scott Walker or Jeb Bush complaining about HRC's doing business with a private email account.

'wink wink, nudge, nudge.'


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Sooner8th
3/6/2015, 06:43 AM
Well, you won't see Scott Walker or Jeb Bush complaining about HRC's doing business with a private email account.

'wink wink, nudge, nudge.'


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You really are selling republicans short on hypocrisy. Give them a day or two before they explain with their favorite whine - it's different.

Sooner in Tampa
3/6/2015, 08:19 AM
^^^^^^^^^ Troll ^^^^^^^^^^^

Lying, stinking, no paragraph writing, worthless POS troll. Proven liar. Copy and paste plagiarist thief. Lowlife, ignorant scum.

Sooner8th
3/6/2015, 08:50 AM
^^^^^^^^^ Troll ^^^^^^^^^^^

Lying, stinking, no paragraph writing, worthless POS troll. Proven liar. Copy and paste plagiarist thief. Lowlife, ignorant scum.

Ignorant redneck inbred dumbass tyler durden ignorant loser.

Sooner in Tampa
3/6/2015, 01:42 PM
^^^^^^^^^ Troll ^^^^^^^^^^^

Lying, stinking, no paragraph writing, worthless POS troll. Proven liar. Copy and paste plagiarist thief. Lowlife, ignorant scum.

hawaii 5-0
3/6/2015, 02:04 PM
You two really should get a room.


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FaninAma
3/6/2015, 05:05 PM
If the Repubs still can't front someone better........

Does any Repub have a plan, a vision ?

Middle East, Immigration, Jobs, Health Care, etc.


Treating ISIS like some union workers ain't gonna cut it.

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And this is the reason why eventually the Federal government will collapse from its own morbid, obese weight. There are too many people who expect the federal government to get involved and take care of every possible issue that affects their daily lives.

Immigration and foreign policy are ligitimate government issues. But the other economic issues are not solveable by governmental management. I know exactly what I am going to do for my amd my family's health care. And the more the government gets involved with employment issues the worse the situation becomes. The government cannot solve every problem.The people who work for the government are not some super genius group of problem solvers. The government is an inefficient, slow, wasteful bureaucracy that does nothing but add layers and layer of fat and waste to any issue they try to deal with.

hawaii 5-0
3/6/2015, 07:06 PM
Obamacare is for those who don't have healthcare.

If you have a plan (most do) then no worries. Glad you have it taken care of. I wish more people were as responsible as you.


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