So what Yall think about this? whos right? Whos wrong? or is there a Middle ?

[olevetonahill]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/abercrombie-rejected-17-old-girl-163622359.html

[SicEmBaylor]

Any private business ought to have the freedom to hire and fire whomever they please for absolutely any reason they please; furthermore, any business ought to have the right to serve and refuse service to whomever they please for absolutely any reason they please. Any employer ought to have the right to pay its employees whatever they please -- wages should be treated as a strictly private contract between two interested parties.

[olevetonahill]

Any private business ought to have the freedom to hire and fire whomever they please for absolutely any reason they please; furthermore, any business ought to have the right to serve and refuse service to whomever they please for absolutely any reason they please. Any employer ought to have the right to pay its employees whatever they please -- wages should be treated as a strictly private contract between two interested parties.

Now this I agree with you on Little Bro

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Any private business ought to have the freedom to hire and fire whomever they please for absolutely any reason they please; furthermore, any business ought to have the right to serve and refuse service to whomever they please for absolutely any reason they please. Any employer ought to have the right to pay its employees whatever they please -- wages should be treated as a strictly private contract between two interested parties.of course.

[Sooner in Tampa]

Now this I agree with you on Little Bro

One of the damn few things I can agree with SicEm on...

[SicEmBaylor]

One of the damn few things I can agree with SicEm on...

I didn't realize you were so liberal.

[Sooner in Tampa]

I didn't realize you were so liberal.

HAHAHA...not that is some funny $hit right there...

[rock on sooner]

It's been a long time since I worked in OK...is the state an "at will" state? If it
is, Abercrombie has a legal leg to stand on. If it isn't, then there is a big problem
for them. As to the right of refusal of service, it is generally accepted that it is
up to the business. Wages historically had always been a private contract in non-
union workplaces, but, now, workers are nosy, careless and loud mouthed about
their pay and their coworkers.

I read the article and details are sketchy at best. What is not mentioned at all
is how the interview(s) were conducted and what was said. That Abercrombie
has changed their procedures/policy now, as I see it, sets them up for a hefty
financial penalty. Just my opinion, I'm no lawyer, but I do have 40+ years of
interviewing, hiring/firing at many levels of retail.

[SicEmBaylor]

HAHAHA...not that is some funny $hit right there...

? I'm serious. Otherwise, I can't imagine why you'd agree with me so little.

[Sooner8th]

Any private business ought to have the freedom to hire and fire whomever they please for absolutely any reason they please; furthermore, any business ought to have the right to serve and refuse service to whomever they please for absolutely any reason they please. Any employer ought to have the right to pay its employees whatever they please -- wages should be treated as a strictly private contract between two interested parties.You definitely have a slave - owner mentally. You want to work for someone who can run your life? Or you want to own a company and run peoples lives?

[SicEmBaylor]

You definitely have a slave - owner mentally. You want to work for someone who can run your life? Or you want to own a company and run peoples lives?

What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. No, I believe in the right of a person to run and conduct their private business as they see fit. I believe in the right of an employee to negotiate his or her own labor contract. I believe in the open market where premium skills are rewarded with premium wages.

[Sooner8th]

What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. No, I believe in the right of a person to run and conduct their private business as they see fit. I believe in the right of an employee to negotiate his or her own labor contract. I believe in the open market where premium skills are rewarded with premium wages.It is not an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. So if you are working somewhere and and a new owner buys the business and finds out you believe in the southern cause and fires you - that's ok? People are petty, small minded and greedy. We have laws and regulations for a reason. I know people who not only vote for but actively support candidates that directly jeopardize their jobs. Can their bosses fire them for supporting a candidate who can wreck their business? There was that home builder in florida who said if you vote for obama you could lose your job. I know that koch passes out voter manuals at work with who to vote for included. I know a LOT of democrats who are registered republicans so their career won't be hurt. You think this is ok?

[SicEmBaylor]

It is not an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. So if you are working somewhere and and a new owner buys the business and finds out you believe in the southern cause and fires you - that's ok?
Yes. That is okay. Would I like it? No. But it's his or her business, not mine.


People are petty, small minded and greedy.
People are, indeed, all of those things. Fortunately we live in a free country where people are free to be all of those things.


We have laws and regulations for a reason.
Unfortunately.


I know people who not only vote for but actively support candidates that directly jeopardize their jobs. Can their bosses fire them for supporting a candidate who can wreck their business?
Absolutely. Although, the last time I checked, voting was still secret in this country. If you're dumb enough to tell your employer that you're voting for a guy who is going to jeopardizes his or her business then your dumb *** deserves to get fired.


There was that home builder in florida who said if you vote for obama you could lose your job. I know that koch passes out voter manuals at work with who to vote for included.
So what if they do? Lots of places pass out voter guides.


I know a LOT of democrats who are registered republicans so their career won't be hurt. You think this is ok?
It is okay, yes. However, I absolutely refuse to believe that bull****.

[Sooner8th]

Yes. That is okay. Would I like it? No. But it's his or her business, not mine.People are, indeed, all of those things. Fortunately we live in a free country where people are free to be all of those things.Unfortunately.Absolutely. Although, the last time I checked, voting was still secret in this country. If you're dumb enough to tell your employer that you're voting for a guy who is going to jeopardizes his or her business then your dumb *** deserves to get fired.So what if they do? Lots of places pass out voter guides.It is okay, yes. However, I absolutely refuse to believe that bull****.Shouldn't you be able to openly support a political candidate without fear of retribution? You really don't think people in kansas who work for koch are registered as republicans for their careers? You just don't know............. I personally know two people who do it. In the last election there was a group of kansas women who met to help get brownback out of office - HALF of them were not registered democrats - ALL because it would hurt their careers. We have laws for a reason.

[olevetonahill]

Yes. That is okay. Would I like it? No. But it's his or her business, not mine.


People are, indeed, all of those things. Fortunately we live in a free country where people are free to be all of those things.


Unfortunately.


Absolutely. Although, the last time I checked, voting was still secret in this country. If you're dumb enough to tell your employer that you're voting for a guy who is going to jeopardizes his or her business then your dumb *** deserves to get fired.


So what if they do? Lots of places pass out voter guides.


It is okay, yes. However, I absolutely refuse to believe that bull****.

Sic, As funny as you are you are vastly superior to yer Opposition in this discussion :excitement: