mildcats vs Sooner men

[Soonerjeepman]

payback time or another Jekyll and Hyde performance?

If foster is still out I think we'll be good but I believe he was out right before OU's game last time and came back just in time. No way that big ugly, Hurt...gets his 15 again

I'd love to keep it going....hopefully the team plays well.

[Soonerjeepman]

Looks like foster will play.... from the ksu message boards

[Sooner95]

We need to get this road win and keep the momentum going. KSU is on a bit of a downward spiral, we need to take advantage of that.

[Soonerjeepman]

yup

[Soonerjeepman]

Going to gf so I wont b posting my elation or frustration....lol

[Blue]

Take it the hoop guys! 3-2 OU early.

[Blue]

Nice pass and dunk by Hield/Thomas! 11-6 OU 14:06

[Blue]

Playin well. 18-13 OU 11:19

[Blue]

24-19 OU 6:50

[Blue]

Getting sloppy. 24-24.

[SoonerorLater]

spangler easy one. like that.

[Blue]

Flop city right there...

[Blue]

Intentional/flagrant my ***

Charge my ***...

28-27 OU kstate floppin all over the place

[SoonerorLater]

We're getting jobbed.

[Blue]

It looks like he's gonna have a broken face...

[SoonerorLater]

Hope the guy isn't hurt but no way was he set before Hield left the ground.

[Blue]

28-27 Half. Ugly there at the end of the half.

[Soonerjeepman]

Total bs calls...15 to 2 fts....

[Soonerjeepman]

Hopefully we'll come out second half. Heck, they made 13 fts and we still are up one. If the officials even it out second half we'll be good.

[SoonerorLater]

Charging / blocking is the most consistently bad called penalty in all of sports. Basketball, especially college needs to do something because the refs just kneejerk when they see contact, think something needs to be called but have no idea.

[birddog]

Listening to game on way home from work. Was that injury to the kstate dude pretty hardcore?

[Soonerjeepman]

Think he broke his wrist. Went up for block on buddy's layup and got his feet cut out landed on chest arm face...looked like he got knocked out.

[Blue]

Listening to game on way home from work. Was that injury to the kstate dude pretty hardcore?

Nah. His face broke his fall.

[SoonerorLater]

No not at all. IMO this should have been an easy blocking call. He wasn't set.

[Blue]

These refs are terrible...

[SoonerorLater]

College needs to adapt the continuation rule.

[Blue]

College needs to adapt the continuation rule.
I really don't like that rule. The NBA has gotten ridiculous with all the flopping and traveling.

[Sooner95]

So many bad passes tonight.

[SoonerorLater]

Without the Continuation too many great moves are wiped out because of convenient fouls. In essence you are rewarded for an infraction. Not many other sports you can gain an advantage by breaking the rules.

[Sooner95]

Geez, foul on nearly every possession for ksu...

[Blue]

Again, these refs suck

[Sooner95]

What a bull**** call...

[Blue]

37-37 13:33

Refs have a hard on for calling fouls on us. Fuuuuuck!!

[Blue]

Ksate already in the bonus.

Lattin and Spamgler on bench with 4. DJ bennet time

[Sooner95]

Good lord. Lattin doesn't get a foul but that does?? Holy ****...

[SoonerorLater]

Why don't the refs just huddle and decide who they want to win the game and save us all some time.

[Sooner95]

Our guards are going to have to step up here.

[Sooner95]

Why don't the refs just huddle and decide who they want to win the game and save us all some time.

Indeed.

[Blue]

Serious home cooking here. What a stupid game.

[Sooner95]

Ok. This is one of those effin crap games were we will need to make plays and not depend on anything being called correctly.

Always get one of these every year..just shiiiitttyy..

[Soonerjeepman]

Total crap

[Soonerjeepman]

We drive to the bucket get nothing....they drive get a call every time...

[SoonerMarkVA]

These refs are terrible...

They are absolutely atrocious! I know it's not Kruger's style, but he needs to give it to them.

[Blue]

Free throws OU 6 of 7 Kstate 20 of 25.

[Soonerjeepman]

7 to 26 ft attempts....Total bull****...again

[Blue]

Were getting screeewwed!!!!!

[Sooner95]

Refs need to review that shot.

[Blue]

48-43 ksu. Getting worked over real good in Manhattan. No lube on V Day

[Blue]

This is pathetic. Spangler fouls out. I don't think I've ever seen worse officiating.

[Soonerjeepman]

Well ,$kck....that 3 shouldn't have counted

[Soonerjeepman]

figures

[Sooner95]

I'm besides myself at this point. I got nothing....

[SoonerorLater]

What a boatload of crap. Has Spangler done any thing different this game then normal?

[SoonerorLater]

I need to turn this off before I throw a shoe through the screen and have to buy a new TV.

[Eielson]

The refs have awarded KSU 21 more FT's than us, gave KSU a crucial 3 pointer even though everybody and their dog (and both announcers) knew the shot clock had expired, and now they give Spangler two phantom calls to foul him out.

This officiating crew should be fired before this game even ends. No way are we getting out of here with a W.

[birddog]

It's been awhile since I've seen a game where they call a foul every gd possession. Lame.

[BermudaSooner]

Gonna beat them despite this awful refereeing.

Ball don't lie.

[Soonerjeepman]

This really is the worse officiating I've seen...besides letting wv rape everyone with the ball every time

[birddog]

And we're shooting 7% from on 3s

[Eielson]

What a boatload of crap. Has Spangler done any thing different this game then normal?

Normally he fouls a lot more, so yeah, technically he has played differently.

[soonercastor]

We need to step it up on defense

[Soonerjeepman]

I didn't have a problem with spangs last foul...he grabbed his arm...I do have a problem with 27/9 ft attempts

[Soonerjeepman]

We need to step it up on defense
Can't, we'll get called for fouls

[Eielson]

Just a fun note: KSU has scored more points from FT's than any other form (27 out of their 53 points).

[Eielson]

I didn't have a problem with spangs last foul...he grabbed his arm...I do have a problem with 27/9 ft attempts

If anything, Spangs got fouled.

[BermudaSooner]

I didn't have a problem with spangs last foul...he grabbed his arm...I do have a problem with 27/9 ft attempts

You mean when Spangler got thrown to the floor and all KSU Players were fine?

[BermudaSooner]

If anything, Spangs got fouled.

Yep

[soonercastor]

They've attempted 36 FTs to our 9. Half of their points come from FTs.

Wow

[BermudaSooner]

And why can't they go back and review he non-3? That's ridiculous.

[Blue]

These POS refs should be fired.

[Soonerjeepman]

You mean when Spangler got thrown to the floor and all KSU Players were fine?

That wasn't his 5th. I was talking about his 5th.

[Soonerjeepman]

We've also settled for bad 3's....instead of driving

[Soonerjeepman]

The officiating is horrible.....but the last few minutes we've taken bad shots

[8timechamps]

Just discombobulated all night.

Terrible officiating, bad shot decisions, poor ball handling.

Why does KSU give us such a difficult time?!

[Soonerjeepman]

I thought sliding on the floor with the ball is traveling....No?

[Eielson]

I thought sliding on the floor with the ball is traveling....No?

Only if we do it.

[Blue]

Refs thinkin on how they can screw us down the stretch.

Woodard has had a good game.

tied up at 56 w/ 1:31 to go.

[Sooner95]

Here we go.

[soonercastor]

They're rattled. Let's pull this off.

[Soonerjeepman]

Damn....

[Soonerjeepman]

After the screw job would love to get out of here with a win

[Eielson]

He grabbed it off the rim....

no offensive goaltend?

[Sooner95]

No comment...

[soonercastor]

Of course.

[Eielson]

We better have about 1.9 seconds here...

[Soonerjeepman]

Un****inbelievable

[birddog]

So they call that touch foul before cousins hits the tying 3. I'm amazed we had shot a in the end.

[Soonerjeepman]

Course the Dumas ksu fans got away with cheating....

[Soonerjeepman]

So they call that touch foul before cousins hits the tying 3. I'm amazed we had shot a in the end.

Of course

[8timechamps]

PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE let us see them again in the conference tourney!!!

[Mookie91]

That one stings, need to be Tech and TCU then at least one Big 12 tourney game or this could be NIT time

[Soonerjeepman]

Total screw job...from the 3 to the fouls...

[Eielson]

We didn't play well, but we played well enough to beat KSU. Just flat-out screwed. Worst officiating we've ever gotten in the Kruger era without a doubt. This essentially ends any realistic chance at winning conference.

[Soonerjeepman]

Figured this would be tough...Figured isu there a loss...if we can win the rest I'll say we're good for ncaa

[Eielson]

So they call that touch foul before cousins hits the tying 3. I'm amazed we had shot a in the end.

They set the clock to 1.4, and if that's the case, it was a phantom call. The KSU player made contact at 1.9, and Cousins was already past him by 1.4. Kind of funny how it ended, seeing as Spangler we had phantom calls against us all game.

[Eielson]

We're DEFINITELY fine for the NCAA. We're nowhere near the bubble.

We're just not winning the Big XII.

[FaninAma]

Referees.....the reason I don't watch basketball games any more.

[soonercastor]

That one stings, need to be Tech and TCU then at least one Big 12 tourney game or this could be NIT time

Lol what the heck.

We'll still be in the top 20 come Monday.
That one does sting though.

[Mookie91]

You shoot 37% FG 17% 3FG you deserve to lose can't blame officiating for this one. OU shoots the ball well they can hang with most teams in the country but unfortunately when cold they lose to inferior teams. I still don't see a ton of heart in this team, a lot of chest thumpin' when things are going well a lot of finger pointing when it doesn't. Like a broken record I'll still say this team will only go as far as Woodard and Cousins will take them. Buddy is Buddy and Lon is not Freddy.

[hawaii 5-0]

Valiant effort to come back late but the homecooking and lack of hitting the 3 doomed the Sooners.

OU is better than K State but neither time proved it.

Some time ya good overcome the adversity.

Marcus Foster is a clutch player.

5-0

[hawaii 5-0]

you deserve to lose can't blame officiating for this one. .


Well, that phantom 3 given the Kitties and the terrible fouls called against Spangler (the last 2) I can directly blame on the homecooked refs.

5-0

[Mookie91]

Lol what the heck.

We'll still be in the top 20 come Monday.
That one does sting though.

Absolutely but will be an underdog against Iowa State and Kansas, Texas will give us all we can handle. You'd hope 19-12 would still get the team in but if they lose to Texas, Kansas and Iowa State along with the 1st round game in the Big 12 that's 10-9 in conference and god forbid we tie it up with Baylor beating us twice.

[Mookie91]

We're DEFINITELY fine for the NCAA. We're nowhere near the bubble.

We're just not winning the Big XII.

I sure hope so but this team scares me. I can see them finishing the last stretch 3-2 or 1-4.

[Blue]

You shoot 37% FG 17% 3FG you deserve to lose can't blame officiating for this one. OU shoots the ball well they can hang with most teams in the country but unfortunately when cold they lose to inferior teams. I still don't see a ton of heart in this team, a lot of chest thumpin' when things are going well a lot of finger pointing when it doesn't. Like a broken record I'll still say this team will only go as far as Woodard and Cousins will take them. Buddy is Buddy and Lon is not Freddy.
I damn sure will blame the officiating. They took us out of rhythm all night and our best bigs were stuck on the bench in foul trouble.

Its not quite as dire as you make it out to be. Also I see you only show up when there's something negative to say. In my book that makes you a troll.

[Blue]

Absolutely but will be an underdog against Iowa State and Kansas, Texas will give us all we can handle. You'd hope 19-12 would still get the team in but if they lose to Texas, Kansas and Iowa State along with the 1st round game in the Big 12 that's 10-9 in conference and god forbid we tie it up with Baylor beating us twice.

Just go ahead and off yourself now.

[Mookie91]

I damn sure will blame the officiating. They took us out of rhythm all night and our best bigs were stuck on the bench in foul trouble.

Its not quite as dire as you make it out to be. Also I see you only show up when there's something negative to say. In my book that makes you a troll.

You can blame the refs and call me names doesn't hurt my feelings and things may not be as troublesome as I paint them. I hope I'm wrong and this team hits it's stride.

[Eielson]

You shoot 37% FG 17% 3FG you deserve to lose can't blame officiating for this one. OU shoots the ball well they can hang with most teams in the country but unfortunately when cold they lose to inferior teams. I still don't see a ton of heart in this team, a lot of chest thumpin' when things are going well a lot of finger pointing when it doesn't. Like a broken record I'll still say this team will only go as far as Woodard and Cousins will take them. Buddy is Buddy and Lon is not Freddy.

I'm sorry, but I'm just going to have to disagree with everything you just said.

37% isn't good, but we're not an offensive team this year, and we held KSU to 26.5% shooting. We could have played better and overcome the horrible officiating, but we played some incredible defense, and were more deserving team tonight. Cut that FT gap from around 20 to 10, let Spangler play, and take away that 3 pointer and we win by about 20.

I don't understand how anybody could say this team doesn't have heart. If this team doesn't have heart, then nobody in the country has heart. In terms of heart, Cousins and Spangler could go up against anybody; even guys like Najera and Price from the Sampson era. Lon might as well be Sampson Jr.

Lastly, this team will go as far as Buddy takes us. Cousins is a great defender, but we know the defense will be there. It's all about how we perform offensively, and Buddy is the key to that.

[Sooner95]

Listen, we are in the tourney, our RPI and SOS are among the tops in the nation. We just got thru thrashing a #14 ISU team. We just cannot knock off KSU for some damn reason (well horrid refs and lousy 3 pt shooting did us in).

We'll take care of business against our next 3, which leaves us with a trip to Ames and home vs KU.

I'm not concerned about making the dance, I would like to nail down a 5 or 6 seed and head in with some good momentum.

[SoonerMarkVA]

Only if we do it.

Bingo!

[Eielson]

I hope I'm wrong and this team hits it's stride.

This team HAS hit it's stride. I feel like you're stuck 6 games ago. We just had a 5 game winning streak which include wins against WVU, OSU, and ISU. Additionally, we've only allowed one team to even score 60 points since the Baylor game. It's entirely possible that we blow up over the next few games, but I'm not sure why you would predict that considering how we've been playing. We're pretty strong favorites over the next 3 games. At ISU is the only game I think we'd be underdogs in right now, and even that's winnable considering the way we thoroughly manhandled them in the second half about a week ago.

[Soonerjeepman]

The officiating changes everything....if ya get called for touch fouls ya start playing of your guy....the officials definite changed the game. I will grant you it wasn't the only reason...No def rebounds late really hurt....but officiating was huge

[Temujin]

This was, by a long shot, the worst officiating I've ever seen start to finish. Those officials should be fired. Had it been called even remotely correctly, we'd have blown GaySU out by 25.

[Mookie91]

I'm sorry, but I'm just going to have to disagree with everything you just said.

37% isn't good, but we're not an offensive team this year, and we held KSU to 26.5% shooting. We could have played better and overcome the horrible officiating, but we played some incredible defense, and were more deserving team tonight. Cut that FT gap from around 20 to 10, let Spangler play, and take away that 3 pointer and we win by about 20.

I don't understand how anybody could say this team doesn't have heart. If this team doesn't have heart, then nobody in the country has heart. In terms of heart, Cousins and Spangler could go up against anybody; even guys like Najera and Price from the Sampson era. Lon might as well be Sampson Jr.

Lastly, this team will go as far as Buddy takes us. Cousins is a great defender, but we know the defense will be there. It's all about how we perform offensively, and Buddy is the key to that.

Kansas St is terrible offensively, maybe one of the worst in the country.

OU is 1-5 in games decided by single digits that shows me when crunch time comes they haven't been very successful.

Buddy & a big will get theirs but they are going to need a third and fourth scorer.

Lon is a very good coach but is calm as opposed to fiery, last night the team needed some fire.

[Mookie91]

This team HAS hit it's stride. I feel like you're stuck 6 games ago. We just had a 5 game winning streak which include wins against WVU, OSU, and ISU. Additionally, we've only allowed one team to even score 60 points since the Baylor game. It's entirely possible that we blow up over the next few games, but I'm not sure why you would predict that considering how we've been playing. We're pretty strong favorites over the next 3 games. At ISU is the only game I think we'd be underdogs in right now, and even that's winnable considering the way we thoroughly manhandled them in the second half about a week ago.

While I agree that week 10 the Big 12 looked like the top conference in college basketball but with Texas dropping off dramatically and only one top 15 team the conference wins are a bit diminished.

[Eielson]

Kansas St is terrible offensively, maybe one of the worst in the country.

They average 44.0% from the field. That's not great, but it's light-years ahead of 26.5%. Additionally, we only shoot 44.9%, so we're not much better. I know that KSU scored close to their average, but like we've all said, they shot way more FT's than they deserved.


OU is 1-5 in games decided by single digits that shows me when crunch time comes they haven't been very successful.

These are the same guys who won nearly every close game last year. Weren't we like 8-2 in games decided by single digits? That wasn't all Cam Clark. Additionally, I think that stat is a bit misleading. The ball hasn't rolled our way in a couple of close games, but we've been a very good second half team. I don't think the fact that we erased a 20 point deficit in the second half of the KU game only to lose by single digits indicates a lack of heart. I also don't think the fact that we beat ISU by 11 eliminates the factor that "heart" played in that comeback win.


Lon is a very good coach but is calm as opposed to fiery, last night the team needed some fire.

Fire doesn't make the ball go in the hole, and it doesn't fix an officiating crew.

[Mookie91]

They average 44.0% from the field. That's not great, but it's light-years ahead of 26.5%. Additionally, we only shoot 44.9%, so we're not much better. I know that KSU scored close to their average, but like we've all said, they shot way more FT's than they deserved.



These are the same guys who won nearly every close game last year. Weren't we like 8-2 in games decided by single digits? That wasn't all Cam Clark. Additionally, I think that stat is a bit misleading. The ball hasn't rolled our way in a couple of close games, but we've been a very good second half team. I don't think the fact that we erased a 20 point deficit in the second half of the KU game only to lose by single digits indicates a lack of heart. I also don't think the fact that we beat ISU by 11 eliminates the factor that "heart" played in that comeback win.



Fire doesn't make the ball go in the hole, and it doesn't fix an officiating crew.

K-State is 240th in scoring at 64ppg, OU is 64th at 72ppg.

All stats are a bit misleading and OU has had a very good season thus far.

I'm hoping for the best just nervous that when the 3 ball isn't dropping this team is in trouble.

[Eielson]

K-State is 240th in scoring at 64ppg, OU is 64th at 72ppg.

You didn't read my post, did you?


I'm hoping for the best just nervous that when the 3 ball isn't dropping this team is in trouble.

Truth.

[badger]

Everytime I think I'm creating vMillionaires by encouraging you all to vBet on the Sooners... OU goes and rips the rug out under its fans :(

I know, I know... BIG 12 REFS BURGLEHSJHSKHJKFKJHKSDFHJKSDHF and all... but still... do we really wanna be losing in February at the Octagon of NIT?

[Soonerjeepman]

I'm sure I made their meltdown thread if they have one....OU didn't rebound when they needed and kept jacking up 3's and our bigs got pushed around. Oh and the reffin sucked.

[Eielson]

I'm sure I made their meltdown thread if they have one....OU didn't rebound when they needed and kept jacking up 3's and our bigs got pushed around. Oh and the reffin sucked.

Luckily for you, not many places other than Oklahoma have Badgers.

[Soonerjeepman]

lol...true.

I think it's hilarious that ku is biotching about the shot clock...I'm sure about 90% of them were cheering for ksu against OU because we were the serious threat to de-thrown them. Karma is a *itch.