conservative educators

[Sooner8th]

Not just one liberal who is forcing their beliefs down their students throats - but an entire state forcing a rightwingnut agenda upon EVERY student. State high school social studies teachers would be encouraged to use curriculum materials prepared by an institute funded by the conservative Koch family, under a proposal the Department of Public Instruction presented Wednesday.The Bill of Rights Institute, based in Virginia, had a $100,000, sole-source contract with the state to help develop materials for teachers to use in a course on founding principles that the state requires students to take. The institute was founded in 1999 and receives grants from David H. Koch, the Charles Koch Foundation, and the Fred and Mary Koch Foundation, according to a website on Koch family philanthropies.The state Department of Public Instruction decision to “highly recommend” that school districts use the Bill of Rights Institute material comes as the state is embroiled in a controversy over teaching history – whether schools have students study the founding principles as the law requires, whether AP U.S. History meets those requirements and whether the college-level course developed by the College Board has a liberal bias.The 390-page founding principles curriculum includes readings, activities, questions students should discuss and references to online resources for the 10 principles described in a 2011 law inspired by proposed legislation promoted by the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative group backed by major corporations.Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/12/03/4374397_state-education-department-used.html?sp=/99/100/&rh=1#storylink=cpy

[FaninAma]

Oh no....not those evil Koch brothers! :surprise:

Tell you what Sooner8th, you review the text books and report all the offensive/inaccurate sections you find so we can discuss them.

[Sooner8th]

Oh no....not those evil Koch brothers! :surprise:Tell you what Sooner8th, you review the text books and report all the offensive/inaccurate sections you find so we can discuss them.HUH.......so when it is conservative indoctrination, no problem. I see how it works now.

[The Remnant]

Public education has been pushing a liberal agenda for years.

[Sooner8th]

Public education has been pushing a liberal agenda for years.Like evolution, the separation of church and state and all americans have the same rights?

[The Remnant]

I doubt that you have any idea what goes on inside a classroom.

[The Remnant]

How long have you been teaching?

[Sooner8th]

How long have you been teaching?What does that have to do with conservative indoctrination?

[The Remnant]

I apologize. I was just curious as to whether your opinions were based on real life experiences or googling.

[Sooner8th]

I apologize. I was just curious as to whether your opinions were based on real life experiences or googling.What does my being in a classroom or not have to do with conservative indoctrination?

[The Remnant]

The issues are much broader than curriculum. If you were a teacher you would know that.

[Sooner8th]

The issues are much broader than curriculum. If you were a teacher you would know that.How long have you been a teacher?

[The Remnant]

I started teaching in 1979.

[Sooner8th]

I started teaching in 1979.And you never followed the curriculum?

[The Remnant]

The point I want to make is that it is not just about what you teach, but how you teach it. These ideas are put forth by the colleges and universities that train educators how to teach. With regards to curriculum our school a few years ago adopted a literacy program funded by a George Soros group. The program was not political in any way. There are many interest groups from all sides that have their fingers in the pie.

[Sooner8th]

The point I want to make is that it is not just about what you teach, but how you teach it. These ideas are put forth by the colleges and universities that train educators how to teach. With regards to curriculum our school a few years ago adopted a literacy program funded by a George Soros group. The program was not political in any way. There are many interest groups from all sides that have their fingers in the pie.George Soros group didn't have an agenda, this group does. That is the difference.

[Soonerjeepman]

Remnant, I've been teaching 25 years. I have 8th on ignore...it's been a refreshing change....thank you for not quoting him!
My point in the liberal educators thread was the hypocrisy that is abound....although I totally disagree with having My Two Dads in the school library...if we are allowing that then the Bible needs to be accepted as well. Most liberals don't see it that way...crazy.

There was discussion about where does the line get drawn? Of course the comparison of the Bible vs Penthouse, etc isn't too far-fetched if we get into rights...there has to be a line. Legally we've decided certain material isn't available to anyone under 18...guess that's a start...then you get into 18 yr olds who are Sr in HS.

As far as curriculum....I agree, everyone wants their "fingers in the pie" as you stated.

[Sooner8th]

Remnant, I've been teaching 25 years. I have 8th on ignore...it's been a refreshing change....thank you for not quoting him!My point in the liberal educators thread was the hypocrisy that is abound....although I totally disagree with having My Two Dads in the school library...if we are allowing that then the Bible needs to be accepted as well. Most liberals don't see it that way...crazy.There was discussion about where does the line get drawn? Of course the comparison of the Bible vs Penthouse, etc isn't too far-fetched if we get into rights...there has to be a line. Legally we've decided certain material isn't available to anyone under 18...guess that's a start...then you get into 18 yr olds who are Sr in HS.As far as curriculum....I agree, everyone wants their "fingers in the pie" as you stated.He put me on ignore because he is a public school teacher in kansas and is a conservative republican and he didn't like me pointing out his party hates him and thinks he adds nothing to the economy, but actually take from it. That book that keeps getting mentioned - my two dads, does not exist. Nor does my two moms. That is his mentality.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

8th, what a dumbass... Why don't you go whine and cry over on HuffPost...

[TheHumanAlphabet]

I apologize. I was just curious as to whether your opinions were based on real life experiences or googling.
Don't try to be civil here...he's a robot program and a one note samba...

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Hey 8th, you only have to look to France to see how the liberal manifesto has failed miserably... And an extremely Socialist newspaper was attacked no less, say it ain't so! How could that happen, we have been sooo tolerant of people?

[TVKaleen]

Did he really say that George Soros's group didn't have an agenda? Jesus. Seriously? Now I know he just talks out his ***.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/opensecrets-battle-koch-brothers/

[REDREX]

He put me on ignore because he is a public school teacher in kansas and is a conservative republican and he didn't like me pointing out his party hates him and thinks he adds nothing to the economy, but actually take from it. That book that keeps getting mentioned - my two dads, does not exist. Nor does my two moms. That is his mentality.----
http://www.chronogram.com/hudsonvalley/book-review-my-two-moms-everything-i-need-to-know-about-gay-marriage-i-learned-in-boy-scouts/Content?oid=2131276 ----I believe this is the review for My two Moms

[Sooner8th]

----http://www.chronogram.com/hudsonvalley/book-review-my-two-moms-everything-i-need-to-know-about-gay-marriage-i-learned-in-boy-scouts/Content?oid=2131276 ----I believe this is the review for My two MomsYou are right my two moms does exist. My bad. Soonerjeeperman kept bringing up my two dads which I do not find anything out there on. It was a tv show, but not a book. I brought up my two moms.

[olevetonahill]

He put me on ignore because he is a public school teacher in kansas and is a conservative republican and he didn't like me always being a complete idiot,who will twist ,spin and deflect anything said against Liberals and Progressives into anything I can fabricate to implicate Right wingers. Im a stone cold Idiot troll.

Ya took the werds right out my mouth.