Proof of LEMMINGS

[Sooner8th]

A Bloomberg Politics poll shows that on two controversial issues, the budget deficit and deporting illegal immigrants, the public believes Obama's critics–even though reality favors the president. Republicans by an 8-to-1 ratio say the budget deficit has grown over the last six years and 66 percent of Republicans say there have been fewer deportations. Here are the facts: In fiscal 2009, during the first year of Obama's presidency, the deficit was $1.413 trillion. In the current fiscal year, the congressional budget office projects the deficit will be $469 billion, down from $483 billion in the budget year that ended Sept. 30. The deficit has been cut by two-thirds during Obama's six years. Immigration agents removed 315,943 people in the last fiscal year. That's down from 438,421 the year before but up 31 percent from the 240,665 deported in fiscal 2004. LEMMINGShttp://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-12-09/perceptions-blur-reality-when-it-comes-to-obamas-key-issues

[dwarthog]

Proof of U.S. public school failure in above post.

[Sooner8th]

Proof of U.S. public school failure in above post.How it is a failure of our school system? This rightwingnut talking points that you idiots believe.

[olevetonahill]

Son you need to get yer head out ya,*** or have a Glass belly button installed so you can see where yer going!

[Turd_Ferguson]

The only thing 8th can see is Obamas pubes.

[dwarthog]

Get back to us when Obama runs at least one deficit equal to or less than W's lowest deficit.

As for your lemming deportation crap, just more fudging of numbers by the least transparent administration ever.

Your attempts at an adult level discussion grows more pathetic with each new post.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/

[Sooner8th]

Get back to us when Obama runs at least one deficit equal to or less than W's lowest deficit.As for your lemming deportation crap, just more fudging of numbers by the least transparent administration ever.Your attempts at an adult level discussion grows more pathetic with each new post.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/And there you have it. You are an IGNORANT LEMMING. The 2009 deficit is GEORGE W. BUSH's he signed the budget into law not obama. Deportation - removal - return, they all left the country, right? Thank you for proving my point.

[olevetonahill]

And there you have it. You are an IGNORANT LEMMING. The 2009 deficit is GEORGE W. BUSH's he signed the budget into law not obama. Deportation - removal - return, they all left the country, right? Thank you for proving my point.

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[SCOUT]

It would really save everyone some time if you just left ignorant lemming out of every post. From now on, let's just assume you wrote it.

[dwarthog]

And there you have it. You are an IGNORANT LEMMING. The 2009 deficit is GEORGE W. BUSH's he signed the budget into law not obama. Deportation - removal - return, they all left the country, right? Thank you for proving my point.

Reading comprehension issues remain I see. What year did obama have a deficit lower than or equal to W's lowest deficit?

[Sooner8th]

Reading comprehension issues remain I see. What year did obama have a deficit lower than or equal to W's lowest deficit?You really are that stupid aren't you? Everyone except for rightwingnuts know that the 2009 deficit is bush's, he signed the budget into law. What part of that do you not get? To answer your question, this years, last years, the year before, all the way back to 2010 when the deficit was smaller than the bush 2009 deficit. Link to a chart showing how bush took a surplus to a $1.2 TRILLION DEFICIT and obama cutting it since. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-budget-deficit-in-2014-narrows-to-lowest-level-in-six-years-1413385493

[Sooner8th]

Reading comprehension issues remain I see. What year did obama have a deficit lower than or equal to W's lowest deficit?AnalysisMitt Romney claims President Barack Obama’s spending amounts to an “inferno.” But who is really responsible for the huge jump that took place in fiscal 2009? Here are some undisputed facts:Fiscal 2009 began Oct. 1, 2008. That was before Obama was elected, and nearly four months before he took office on Jan. 20, 2009.President Bush signed the massive spending bill under which the government was operating when Obama took office. That was Sept. 30, 2008. As The Associated Press noted, it combined “a record Pentagon budget with aid for automakers and natural disaster victims, and increased health care funding for veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.”Bush also signed, on Oct. 3, 2008, a bank bailout bill that authorized another $700 billion to avert a looming financial collapse (though not all of that would end up being spent in fiscal 2009, and Obama later signed a measure reducing total authorized bailout spending to $475 billion).On Jan. 7, 2009 — two weeks before Obama took office — the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office issued its regular budget outlook, stating: “CBO projects that the deficit this year will total $1.2 trillion.”CBO attributed the rapid rise in spending to the bank bailout and the federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – plus rising costs for unemployment insurance and other factors driven by the collapsing economy (which shed 818,000 jobs in January alone).Another factor beyond Obama’s control was an automatic 5.8 percent cost of living increase announced in October 2008 and given to Social Security beneficiaries in January 2009. It was the largest since 1982. Social Security spending alone rose $66 billion in fiscal 2009, and Medicare spending, driven by rising medical costs, rose $39 billion.How Much Did Obama Add?But it’s also true that Obama signed a number of appropriations bills, plus other legislation and executive orders, that raised spending for the remainder of fiscal 2009 even above the path set by Bush. By our calculations, Obama can be fairly assigned responsibility for a maximum of $203 billion in additional spending for that year.It can be argued that the total should be lower. Economist Daniel J. Mitchell of the libertarian CATO Institute — who once served on the Republican staff of the Senate Finance Committee — has put the figure at $140 billion.Ordinarily, an incoming president has little or no influence over spending that was approved under his predecessor. So in normal circumstances, all spending for fiscal year 2009 would have been rightly tied to Bush, and fiscal 2010 would be the first year for which Obama would have prepared a budget and signed the major spending bills. And for the most part, big spending programs that require no yearly appropriations, including Social Security and Medicare, did indeed continue to operate during fiscal 2009 under the policies in effect under Bush.

[SCOUT]

Thank you.

[okiewaker]

In this dictatorship, and past dictatorships, what role does Congress play in all this spending mumbo jumbo?

[SicEmBaylor]

In this dictatorship, and past dictatorships, what role does Congress play in all this spending mumbo jumbo?

They are entirely 100% responsible for the United States budget, and I find it infuriating that anyone would rush to the defense of a Republican Congress that busted the budget year after year since 1998, and that's putting aside the additional damage they were able to do with a Republican in the White House. It's hypocrisy to the extreme.

[dwarthog]

You really are that stupid aren't you? Everyone except for rightwingnuts know that the 2009 deficit is bush's, he signed the budget into law. What part of that do you not get? To answer your question, this years, last years, the year before, all the way back to 2010 when the deficit was smaller than the bush 2009 deficit. Link to a chart showing how bush took a surplus to a $1.2 TRILLION DEFICIT and obama cutting it since. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-budget-deficit-in-2014-narrows-to-lowest-level-in-six-years-1413385493

You are seriously determined to show just how much you really don't know. A veritable bottomless pit of false information.

FY2009 budget was signed into law by Barrack Obama on March 11th, 2009. Bush signed continuing resolutions passed by the democratic controlled congress which expired on March 6th, 2009.

Since you got that wrong and continue to repeat incorrect facts, I have little hope you'll actually get this right, but it is fun to watch you avoid answering the question.

What year did obama have a deficit lower than or equal to W's lowest deficit?

See Sicem's post for a little remedial education on who is responsible for setting the budget. Then go back and see who was in control of the congress in 2008.

[SicEmBaylor]

See Sicem's post for a little remedial education on who is responsible for setting the budget. Then go back and see who was in control of the congress in 2008.

I should further note that my extreme displeasure with the GOP, on the Federal level, is in no shape/form/fashion inversely proportional to my thoughts and feelings of the Democratic Party. I hate those bastards just as much.

[Sooner8th]

You are seriously determined to show just how much you really don't know. A veritable bottomless pit of false information. FY2009 budget was signed into law by Barrack Obama on March 11th, 2009. Bush signed continuing resolutions passed by the democratic controlled congress which expired on March 6th, 2009. Since you got that wrong and continue to repeat incorrect facts, I have little hope you'll actually get this right, but it is fun to watch you avoid answering the question. What year did obama have a deficit lower than or equal to W's lowest deficit? See Sicem's post for a little remedial education on who is responsible for setting the budget. Then go back and see who was in control of the congress in 2008.LEMMING - try to read this. AnalysisMitt Romney claims President Barack Obama’s spending amounts to an “inferno.” But who is really responsible for the huge jump that took place in fiscal 2009? Here are some undisputed facts:Fiscal 2009 began Oct. 1, 2008. That was before Obama was elected, and nearly four months before he took office on Jan. 20, 2009.President Bush signed the massive spending bill under which the government was operating when Obama took office. That was Sept. 30, 2008. As The Associated Press noted, it combined “a record Pentagon budget with aid for automakers and natural disaster victims, and increased health care funding for veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.”Bush also signed, on Oct. 3, 2008, a bank bailout bill that authorized another $700 billion to avert a looming financial collapse (though not all of that would end up being spent in fiscal 2009, and Obama later signed a measure reducing total authorized bailout spending to $475 billion).On Jan. 7, 2009 — two weeks before Obama took office — the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office issued its regular budget outlook, stating: “CBO projects that the deficit this year will total $1.2 trillion.”CBO attributed the rapid rise in spending to the bank bailout and the federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – plus rising costs for unemployment insurance and other factors driven by the collapsing economy (which shed 818,000 jobs in January alone).Another factor beyond Obama’s control was an automatic 5.8 percent cost of living increase announced in October 2008 and given to Social Security beneficiaries in January 2009. It was the largest since 1982. Social Security spending alone rose $66 billion in fiscal 2009, and Medicare spending, driven by rising medical costs, rose $39 billion.How Much Did Obama Add?But it’s also true that Obama signed a number of appropriations bills, plus other legislation and executive orders, that raised spending for the remainder of fiscal 2009 even above the path set by Bush. By our calculations, Obama can be fairly assigned responsibility for a maximum of $203 billion in additional spending for that year.It can be argued that the total should be lower. Economist Daniel J. Mitchell of the libertarian CATO Institute — who once served on the Republican staff of the Senate Finance Committee — has put the figure at $140 billion.Ordinarily, an incoming president has little or no influence over spending that was approved under his predecessor. So in normal circumstances, all spending for fiscal year 2009 would have been rightly tied to Bush, and fiscal 2010 would be the first year for which Obama would have prepared a budget and signed the major spending bills. And for the most part, big spending programs that require no yearly appropriations, including Social Security and Medicare, did indeed continue to operate during fiscal 2009 under the policies in effect under Bush.

[Sooner8th]

You are seriously determined to show just how much you really don't know. A veritable bottomless pit of false information. FY2009 budget was signed into law by Barrack Obama on March 11th, 2009. Bush signed continuing resolutions passed by the democratic controlled congress which expired on March 6th, 2009. Since you got that wrong and continue to repeat incorrect facts, I have little hope you'll actually get this right, but it is fun to watch you avoid answering the question. What year did obama have a deficit lower than or equal to W's lowest deficit? See Sicem's post for a little remedial education on who is responsible for setting the budget. Then go back and see who was in control of the congress in 2008.Show just what a lemming you are - even hardcore conservatives at the CATO INSTITUTE acknowledge obama is only responible for $140 BILLION of the $1.2 TRILLION. Obama can be fairly assigned responsibility for a maximum of $203 billion in additional spending for that year.It can be argued that the total should be lower. Economist Daniel J. Mitchell of the libertarian CATO Institute — who once served on the Republican staff of the Senate Finance Committee — has put the figure at $140 billion.Ordinarily, an incoming president has little or no influence over spending that was approved under his predecessor.

[FaninAma]

Obama's problem is that once you've been caught in several lies it is unreasonable to expect those he lied to to believe him in other matters.


BTW, it is the epitome of insincerity to claim the deficit is falling. If you want to say the percentage of increase is falling then fine. Then I would refer you to the starting point and further highlight how statistics are worthless.

Starting out with a yearly deficit of $1.2 trillion and then thumping your chest that you lowered it by 30% is just shameless.

[SoonerorLater]

^^^^^^^^^ Troll alert ^^^^^^^^^^^^


(3) "Copies and pastes large blocks of text to exhaust the readers of a topic thread, thus driving away legitimate posters of sincere comments. These blocks of text are often recycled and appeared on a variety of threads".

[Sooner8th]

^^^^^^^^^ Troll alert ^^^^^^^^^^^^(3) "Copies and pastes large blocks of text to exhaust the readers of a topic thread, thus driving away legitimate posters of sincere comments. These blocks of text are often recycled and appeared on a variety of threads".^^^^^^^^^Idiot alert ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Posts links to blogs claiming chicanery on the part of the commerce dept to hike up the gdp written by TYLER DURDEN even though gdp is calculated by the BEA that is run by a RIGHT WINGER. You are never going to live that stupid post down. LEMMING

[FaninAma]

You really are that stupid aren't you? Everyone except for rightwingnuts know that the 2009 deficit is bush's, he signed the budget into law. What part of that do you not get? To answer your question, this years, last years, the year before, all the way back to 2010 when the deficit was smaller than the bush 2009 deficit. Link to a chart showing how bush took a surplus to a $1.2 TRILLION DEFICIT and obama cutting it since. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-budget-deficit-in-2014-narrows-to-lowest-level-in-six-years-1413385493
Bush's last budget was just a continuing resolution that lasted until the newly elected Congress could convene and pass the full budget in January 2009. Were you just confused, or still just trolling Sic'em?

[Sooner8th]

Bush's last budget was just a continuing resolution that lasted until the newly elected Congress could convene and pass the full budget in January 2009. Were you just confused, or still just trolling Sic'em?Can you not read? Go back and reread it - even the cato set the amount at $140 BILLION out of the $1.2 TRILLION obama is responsible for. Try again.

[FaninAma]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_federal_budget

"The United States federal budget for fiscal year 2009 began as a spending request (http://www.soonerfans.com/wiki/United_States_federal_budget) submitted by President George W. Bush (http://www.soonerfans.com/wiki/George_W._Bush) to the 110th Congress (http://www.soonerfans.com/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress). The final resolution written and submitted by the 110th Congress to be forwarded to the President was approved by the House on June 5, 2008.[2] (http://www.soonerfans.com/#cite_note-2) The final spending bills for the budget were not signed into law until March 11, 2009 by President Barack Obama, nearly five and a half months after the fiscal year began."


Obama had final approval over the 2009 budget. The first few months were covered by continuing resolutions from Congress which was controlled by the Democrats.

[dwarthog]

This was pointed out to 8th earlier. He's not having any of that truth stuff.

Fact is, democats took advantage of the historical assignment of the 1st year of a presidents budget being assigned to his predecessor and ran up the tab. Succeeding years are proof of that.

It would be wise if you were to be a lone republican in a room full of democratics to not drop any change and bend over to pick it up.

[FaninAma]

This was pointed out to 8th earlier. He's not having any of that truth stuff.

Fact is, democats took advantage of the historical assignment of the 1st year of a presidents budget being assigned to his predecessor and ran up the tab. Succeeding years are proof of that.

It would be wise if you were to be a lone republican in a room full of democratics to not drop any change and bend over to pick it up.

Another thing the Democrat Congress did by jacking up the spending so high is they accelerated the baseline budgeting process where a budget is based on the previous years budget and a reduction in the rate of rise is considered a "cut". The baseline was increased signifcantly over the 2008 budget.

[Sooner8th]

You two are a couple of dumbasses. Read the previous post from the cato institute. You bring me wikipedia over a rightwingnut think tank. LEMMINGS like you two are the only ones who believe it. Keep making my point for me. Thank you.

[SoonerorLater]

^^^^^^^^^ Troll Alert ^^^^^^^^^^^


(14)" They, when not confronted or exposed sufficiently, will seek to have the last word in an online discussion. When nobody responds to their last troll comment, they will proudly proclaim that they "won" what they fantasize as a "contest" or "battle"

[okie52]

Dam dumbass lemmings!!!

[cleller]

The guy who can't type out one paragraph without "lemmings" "rightwingnuts" and "talking points" is trying to convince people he's a independent thinker.

That strangest is part of the whole thing is that this guy doesn't actually know what a lemming is, but still keeps bringing it up.