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TheHumanAlphabet
11/5/2014, 03:17 PM
That was what this outcome of the election was about...

No Amnesty!
No Obamacare or single payer health system...
No to tax and spend...
Yes to enforce laws and remain within the Constitution...


I sure as hell would not moderate...as some dooshbags talking heads have suggested. Its time for the Leftist to get some come-uppance, but his ego won't allow for it...

yermom
11/5/2014, 04:42 PM
you can read into it however you want, but if you trot out another moron like Romney you'll be crying about a new president Clinton in 2016

FaninAma
11/5/2014, 05:01 PM
you can read into it however you want, but if you trot out another moron like Romney you'll be crying about a new president Clinton in 2016
Only if the Democrats can get their low information voters that show up only for some of the Presidential elections to turn out in the same numbers that they did in 2008 and 2012.

dwarthog
11/5/2014, 05:15 PM
Well, guess we'll not be singing kumbaya anytime soon around here...

badger
11/5/2014, 05:18 PM
Credit where it's due --- Republicans had a very solid gameplan and Democrats stank up the joint. Washington Post had a very good recap of everything leading up the primaries till now here. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/battle-for-the-senate-how-the-gop-did-it/2014/11/04/a8df6f7a-62c7-11e4-bb14-4cfea1e742d5_story.html)

It was OU vs Baylor football 2013 last night and the Dems strategy was whatever the eff Heupel called last year. Bob Stoops still gets to be president, and he will continue to pizz off the rest of the Big 12/country in that role, but he has to live with Baylor thumping their chests for awhile due to their big arse win.

I worry that Heupel is going to go Democrat strategy again this Saturday. No Josh nooooooooo

REDREX
11/5/2014, 05:19 PM
Not looking forward to the Dems trotting out OLD GRANNY in 2016

FaninAma
11/5/2014, 05:29 PM
Not looking forward to the Dems trotting out OLD GRANNY in 2016


Nevermind, it just dawned on me that you were talking about hilliary.

okie52
11/5/2014, 05:29 PM
Ed Shultz described all winning pub governors as radicals. His guest, steelworkers union president, described all pub governors as anti labor governors.

The meltdown has been enjoyable to watch.

ouwasp
11/5/2014, 05:30 PM
Only if the Democrats can get their low information voters that show up only for some of the Presidential elections to turn out in the same numbers that they did in 2008 and 2012.

This how HRC might very well win...have a Rock the Vote movement for the useful idiots, then crow about their ground game. Maybe Ben Carson can deliver us from evil.

olevetonahill
11/5/2014, 05:44 PM
This how HRC might very well win...have a Rock the Vote movement for the useful idiots, then crow about their ground game. Maybe Ben Carson can deliver us from evil.

Maybe a Bosnian sniper will become a better shot :tyrannosaurus:

TheHumanAlphabet
11/5/2014, 05:47 PM
Sure way to win...Be Pro-2nd Amendment...

TheHumanAlphabet
11/5/2014, 05:47 PM
you can read into it however you want, but if you trot out another moron like Romney you'll be crying about a new president Clinton in 2016

Romney would likely have been better than anyone the dims had on their list the last 2 times...

BigTip
11/5/2014, 07:41 PM
This election shows that most of the country "gets it."

Makes it obvious how hard the Republicans had to work to lose the last two prez elections. I STILL shake my head on not only how did Romney manage to lose that election, but how in the hell did Obama manage to win.

Turd_Ferguson
11/5/2014, 07:45 PM
but how in the hell did Obama manage to win.

I think you know just eggzackly why he was voted in.

8timechamps
11/5/2014, 07:55 PM
I think you know just eggzackly why he was voted in.

The dems did an outstanding job of getting the black voters to the polls. I don't see that happening again.

rock on sooner
11/5/2014, 08:52 PM
I'll be 70 my next birthday. Had I found a big enough sucker to bet with me, I'd
today be a very wealthy "old fart", based on this thread thus far. All who have posted
fit the bill for "blinders on" yuk, yuk, we won, because of the "Leftist", the wholly bad
ACA, amnesty...nevar! Don't want the granny! Romney was better than any Dem!

And so on, not gonna argue with any of you! Will really enjoy reading just how smart
and well informed you are. The loser here is America, with McConnell and Boehner
running things for you folks..EVERYTHING in retrograde, reveling in trying to repeal
ACA, turning back the calendar for women's rights, denying global warming (yea you,
Imhofe) and nearly every Pub who ran had NO offers of anything different on ACA,
just repeal, repeal, repeal...let's just send all 11m back, just round 'em up! The
candidates that I tried to understand (from the Pubs) never offered any specifics,
never took a stand, other than "my opponent sided with Obama/Pelosi" over and
over.

You all have the Congress now...imo, very few Pubs offer anything other than anti-
Obama. You have Paul already tacked to the center, Christie trying to overcome his
"bully pulpit"...Cruz wants to repeal the ACA..Bush trying to be centrist, Jindal running
a corrupt state (proudly) and so on.

The next two years will be hard on America. May God have mercy and bless us all!

Soonerjeepman
11/5/2014, 10:02 PM
won't be any worse that what we've had the last 6

okie52
11/5/2014, 10:03 PM
Uh oh....I've alrady posted in this thread.

Rock on ...you're usually pretty reasonable but it looks like last night got the best of you.

Hell, even Iowa got n the act...

okie52
11/5/2014, 10:09 PM
Turning back the calendar on women's rights?

REDREX
11/5/2014, 10:13 PM
Brain Washed

Turd_Ferguson
11/5/2014, 10:17 PM
I'll be 70 my next birthday. Had I found a big enough sucker to bet with me, I'd
today be a very wealthy "old fart", based on this thread thus far. All who have posted
fit the bill for "blinders on" yuk, yuk, we won, because of the "Leftist", the wholly bad
ACA, amnesty...nevar! Don't want the granny! Romney was better than any Dem!

And so on, not gonna argue with any of you! Will really enjoy reading just how smart
and well informed you are. The loser here is America, with McConnell and Boehner
running things for you folks..EVERYTHING in retrograde, reveling in trying to repeal
ACA, turning back the calendar for women's rights, denying global warming (yea you,
Imhofe) and nearly every Pub who ran had NO offers of anything different on ACA,
just repeal, repeal, repeal...let's just send all 11m back, just round 'em up! The
candidates that I tried to understand (from the Pubs) never offered any specifics,
never took a stand, other than "my opponent sided with Obama/Pelosi" over and
over.

You all have the Congress now...imo, very few Pubs offer anything other than anti-
Obama. You have Paul already tacked to the center, Christie trying to overcome his
"bully pulpit"...Cruz wants to repeal the ACA..Bush trying to be centrist, Jindal running
a corrupt state (proudly) and so on.

The next two years will be hard on America. May God have mercy and bless us all!

You is cray cray.

olevetonahill
11/5/2014, 11:36 PM
Uh oh....I've alrady posted in this thread.

Rock on ...you're usually pretty reasonable but it looks like last night got the best of you.

Hell, even Iowa got n the act...


Rock dont look now but I think KC stole yer password!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/6/2014, 12:29 AM
Uh oh....I've alrady posted in this thread.

Rock on ...you're usually pretty reasonable but it looks like last night got the best of you.

Hell, even Iowa got n the act...rock on might be reasonable about OU football, but on politics and economics, he's an incomprehensible Lefty.

okie52
11/6/2014, 01:40 AM
Rock dont look now but I think KC stole yer password!

Heh heh...really rock ons been pretty good. He's a lefty but he usually was reasonable in our discussions. Last night had to be tough on the lefties just like 08 was bad for the righties....change you can believe in, Yes we can, ....etc etc etc.

rock on sooner
11/6/2014, 07:59 AM
Heh...:devilish:

Sooner in Tampa
11/6/2014, 08:28 AM
It is interesting that the Democrats' trend of losing white voter support(especially men) at an alarming rate is never mentioned in the media as a problem for them.

Dude...it is because nobody gives a fack...'cept us. The general assumption is that if you are white (especially male) you are going to vote R...Everybody is cowtowing to the Latino vote, the Black vote, and the independent voter. The Dems are going to have a growing problem painting the Pubs as old male white guys that only look out for the wealthy white people. Don't look now, but the Pubs have women, minorities, and gays in their party...they are not nearly as elitist as the Dems try to paint them out to be...

The Pubs have the power for the next two years...what they do with this power will greatly affect who replaces Barry in 2016

FaninAma
11/6/2014, 09:59 AM
Rock, you may want to read this article before you label Boehner and McConnel as the the obstuctionist boogeymen that the Dems would have you believe.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/midterm-disaster-rips-apart-awkward-ties-between-obama-and-senate-democrats/2014/11/05/5bdd257a-650e-11e4-9fdc-d43b053ecb4d_story.html

There is a serious schism in the Democratic Party right now. Apparently Obama got his little feelers hurt by how he was treated in the runnup to the election and the Senate Democrats forgot that their voting base operates mainly on a purely emotional basis and by excluding the best emotional manipulator in their party(obama) from the campaign they doomed themselves in regards to turnout. In retrospect they should have ridden the horse that brought them to power in 2008.....it sure couldn't have turned out worse for them than it did on Tuesday.

olevetonahill
11/6/2014, 10:14 AM
Heh...:devilish:

Knew ya would be alright if we just gave ya enough time to lick yer wounded Liberal balls :highly_amused:

SoonerBBall
11/6/2014, 10:35 AM
I'd prefer to keep the balance. One party controlling the Executive branch, the other controlling the Legislative. I'm terrified of what we'd get these days if one party completely controlled it all.

olevetonahill
11/6/2014, 11:01 AM
I'd prefer to keep the balance. One party controlling the Executive branch, the other controlling the Legislative. I'm terrified of what we'd get these days if one party completely controlled it all.

That happened Obammy's 1st 2 years we got ACA

TheHumanAlphabet
11/6/2014, 11:21 AM
I didn't know Rock is pushing 70. Explains quite a bit... I fail to understand why once you get somewhere north of 65, some people go really liberal.

okie52
11/6/2014, 11:26 AM
I think Rock ons been on the left for quite some time...maybe 40 plus years.

SoonerBBall
11/6/2014, 12:19 PM
That happened Obammy's 1st 2 years we got ACA

The ACA was passed using a host of antiquated parliamentary shenanigans. The Republicans should be ashamed of how thoroughly they got outfoxed on that deal. Regardless, I'd still prefer a balance between the Executive and Legislative. If the Left managed to get that horrible ACA through, who knows what kind of utter crap either side would push through if they had complete control.

Soonerjeepman
11/6/2014, 01:31 PM
The candidates that I tried to understand (from the Pubs) never offered any specifics,
never took a stand, other than "my opponent sided with Obama/Pelosi" over and
over.


Obviously MOST of Americans agreed...that's all that matters. I will say, I didn't vote for Roberts in the primary, but he won so my choice was to vote for him. UN-like michelle obama's speech to the blacks "just vote democrat, who cares about the candidates", I didn't vote just party to vote party. I actually believe in most of their platform.

rock on sooner
11/6/2014, 01:42 PM
I didn't know Rock is pushing 70. Explains quite a bit... I fail to understand why once you get somewhere north of 65, some people go really liberal.

THA and Okie, I think Vet gets it but my post was an effort to stir up the
Right. I thought I saw the start of what my "rant" was about early on in
this thread, but maybe not.....as to when I moved to the left, probably when
I was 5 or 6 watching a drunk a$$hole beat up on my mom. THA, in reality,
I have mellowed as I've aged. I have become much more pragmatic and
realistic about life, politics, economics, religion....most everything that goes
on around us. Oh, I can be "liberal" with the best of them and I can also
understand the conservatives to a point. Where I get stubborn is when there
is no compromise, no willing to understand/accept a differing point of view.
Some Cons have good ideas, so do some Libs...the hard Left and the hard
Right are entrenched in Washington...hence the gridlock! My fervent (and
futile) wish is for Constitutional change to, for just one election cycle, to have
EVERY serving member of Congress to stand for reelection simultaneously,
after allowing the electorate ample time to evaluate each member for genuine
desire/effort to work together, e.g. compromise. Hard left/hard right goes away
in a perfect world.

Pipe dream? Yup! But, the Sooners endure, rule then, now and in the future!
THAT IS A FACT!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/6/2014, 02:04 PM
I'd prefer to keep the balance. One party controlling the Executive branch, the other controlling the Legislative. I'm terrified of what we'd get these days if one party completely controlled it all.Well, after Obola got elected, and the congress all dem, we got Obamacare.

The best we can reasonably hope for during the next 2 years is legislative stagnation...and hopefully, the executive privilege actions can somehow be stopped or overturned.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/6/2014, 02:06 PM
I didn't know Rock is pushing 70. Explains quite a bit... I fail to understand why once you get somewhere north of 65, some people go really liberal.I can't speak for rock on, but I would guess he's been a flaming lib for a loooong time.

okie52
11/6/2014, 02:44 PM
THA and Okie, I think Vet gets it but my post was an effort to stir up the
Right. I thought I saw the start of what my "rant" was about early on in
this thread, but maybe not.....as to when I moved to the left, probably when
I was 5 or 6 watching a drunk a$$hole beat up on my mom. THA, in reality,
I have mellowed as I've aged. I have become much more pragmatic and
realistic about life, politics, economics, religion....most everything that goes
on around us. Oh, I can be "liberal" with the best of them and I can also
understand the conservatives to a point. Where I get stubborn is when there
is no compromise, no willing to understand/accept a differing point of view.
Some Cons have good ideas, so do some Libs...the hard Left and the hard
Right are entrenched in Washington...hence the gridlock! My fervent (and
futile) wish is for Constitutional change to, for just one election cycle, to have
EVERY serving member of Congress to stand for reelection simultaneously,
after allowing the electorate ample time to evaluate each member for genuine
desire/effort to work together, e.g. compromise. Hard left/hard right goes away
in a perfect world.

Pipe dream? Yup! But, the Sooners endure, rule then, now and in the future!
THAT IS A FACT!

Just baiting us, eh Rockon? You certainly fooled me, particularly when you threw in all of the left talking points.

Why would some drunk (disturbing for sure) beating up your mom affect your politics?

BigTip
11/6/2014, 02:50 PM
I didn't know Rock is pushing 70. Explains quite a bit... I fail to understand why once you get somewhere north of 65, some people go really liberal.

Old liberals baffle me. The old Winston Churchill quote is so true;

“Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”

I understand the liberal passion. Communism is a wonderful concept. We should provide for those that can't for themselves. That's WJWD. But we conservatives know that as soon as you start doing that, the number of people that can't provide for themselves somehow multiplies. An old guy usually has learned that lesson. Unless he has not been part of the real world. Like an actor, or a teacher, or a lifelong politician who's only "real" job they ever had was community organizer.

To make it clear, I am not specifically calling Rock on brainless.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/6/2014, 03:02 PM
Shirley you don't think Obola is brainless! Malfunctioning for sure, but it IS there. Socialism sucks, since it thwarts human nature.

rock on sooner
11/6/2014, 03:05 PM
Just baiting us, eh Rockon? You certainly fooled me, particularly when you threw in all of the left talking points.

Why would some drunk (disturbing for sure) beating up your mom affect your politics?

Weren't nobody around to protect her from him, except a skinny 6 year old.
As I grew older, I kinda wanted to protect Mom in particular and women in
general. My view early on was a lot of people didn't think women should make
certain choices about themselves and tried to force that thinking onto women.
I felt they should be able to choose then, as I do now. That sort of evolved into
my being more liberal than conservative.

I tolt ya I could "liberal" with the best of them....and, if ya dint already know me,
I could create a "rant" farther right than Bachmann or Gingrich, rivaling the broad-
casting Rush.

okie52
11/6/2014, 03:14 PM
Weren't nobody around to protect her from him, except a skinny 6 year old.
As I grew older, I kinda wanted to protect Mom in particular and women in
general. My view early on was a lot of people didn't think women should make
certain choices about themselves and tried to force that thinking onto women.
I felt they should be able to choose then, as I do now. That sort of evolved into
my being more liberal than conservative.

I tolt ya I could "liberal" with the best of them....and, if ya dint already know me,
I could create a "rant" farther right than Bachmann or Gingrich, rivaling the broad-
casting Rush.

Ahh sooo...

I haven't heard Rush on the radio in over 15 years...does he still call it the EIB network?

TheHumanAlphabet
11/6/2014, 04:44 PM
THA and Okie, I think Vet gets it but my post was an effort to stir up the
Right. I thought I saw the start of what my "rant" was about early on in
this thread, but maybe not.....as to when I moved to the left, probably when
I was 5 or 6 watching a drunk a$$hole beat up on my mom. THA, in reality,
I have mellowed as I've aged. I have become much more pragmatic and
realistic about life, politics, economics, religion....most everything that goes
on around us. Oh, I can be "liberal" with the best of them and I can also
understand the conservatives to a point. Where I get stubborn is when there
is no compromise, no willing to understand/accept a differing point of view.
Some Cons have good ideas, so do some Libs...the hard Left and the hard
Right are entrenched in Washington...hence the gridlock! My fervent (and
futile) wish is for Constitutional change to, for just one election cycle, to have
EVERY serving member of Congress to stand for reelection simultaneously,
after allowing the electorate ample time to evaluate each member for genuine
desire/effort to work together, e.g. compromise. Hard left/hard right goes away
in a perfect world.

Pipe dream? Yup! But, the Sooners endure, rule then, now and in the future!
THAT IS A FACT!

Thanks Good post... I agree with you on the Constitutional change... We have a ruling class in D.C. which was never envisioned. The left side of the aisle has gotten so emboldened with their Progressive view that I have resorted to being extremely conservative in voting as a countermeasure. I am a fiscal conservative, and feel government, any government, should run as I run my household...within its means. I wish we would get new Statesmen and they stand up to govern.

TAFBSooner
11/6/2014, 07:02 PM
The ACA was passed using a host of antiquated parliamentary shenanigans. The Republicans should be ashamed of how thoroughly they got outfoxed on that deal. Regardless, I'd still prefer a balance between the Executive and Legislative. If the Left managed to get that horrible ACA through, who knows what kind of utter crap either side would push through if they had complete control.

R's got outfoxed on Obamacare?? Sheeeee. It.

The country now has a taxpayer-funded handout to the medical insurance . . . let's say "sector," because "industry" implies doing something useful. R's got an issue to beat D's over the head with for two election cycles - it didn't overcome the D demographic advantage in 2012, but it sure as heck worked for y'all Tuesday. And liberals are still disappointed we didn't get single payer/Medicare for all. That disappointment added to the usual D lack of interest in mid-terms, too. Advantage: R's.

More like D's got Br'er-Foxed.

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Somebody questioned people turning liberal when they get to 65-70? How about because all of a sudden they grok Social Security (aka Rooseveltcare) and Medicare?

hawaii 5-0
11/6/2014, 10:20 PM
This election shows that most of the country "gets it."





This election shows that most of the country didn't even vote.

Typical for mid terms.

5-0

rock on sooner
11/6/2014, 10:32 PM
This election shows that most of the country didn't even vote.

Typical for mid terms.

5-0

Obama made sure that the 2/3 who dint vote knows that he knows....

Curly Bill
11/6/2014, 10:32 PM
This election shows that most of the country didn't even vote.

Typical for mid terms.

5-0

So...are ya saying the donks were too stupid to find the polls, or were they too lazy to bother?

hawaii 5-0
11/6/2014, 10:37 PM
So...are ya saying the donks were too stupid to find the polls, or were they too lazy to bother?


Neither.

Just observing what's happened most mid terms. Low voter turnout.

Hawaii, for example had it's lowest voter turnout since statehood. Read somewhere that only 1/3 of eligible voters actually showed up.

5-0

olevetonahill
11/6/2014, 10:37 PM
So...are ya saying the donks were too stupid to find the polls, or were they too lazy to bother?

The Repubs and their Voter ID requirements kept em from it.

Curly Bill
11/6/2014, 10:40 PM
The Repubs and their Voter ID requirements kept em from it.

That's it! All those poor disenfranchised, low information donks, that woulda swung the elections in favor of the donks were unable to do so because of the onerous requirement that you have an ID with your MF-ing picture on it!

olevetonahill
11/6/2014, 10:54 PM
That's it! All those poor disenfranchised, low information donks, that woulda swung the elections in favor of the donks were unable to do so because of the onerous requirement that you have an ID with your MF-ing picture on it!

:highly_amused:

Sooner in Tampa
11/7/2014, 08:06 AM
Neither.

Just observing what's happened most mid terms. Low voter turnout.

Hawaii, for example had it's lowest voter turnout since statehood. Read somewhere that only 1/3 of eligible voters actually showed up.

5-0

This just goes to show you how uniformed the majority of Americans are when it comes to voting. The majority of dumb *** voters think they can make a change by voting only when POTUS is up for grabs. Stupid people don't realize that local elections affect their day-to-day life far more than the White House.

SoonerorLater
11/7/2014, 09:40 AM
That's it! All those poor disenfranchised, low information donks, that woulda swung the elections in favor of the donks were unable to do so because of the onerous requirement that you have an ID with your MF-ing picture on it!

But most 'undocumented workers' don't have drivers licenses so how are they supposed to vote?

okie52
11/7/2014, 09:56 AM
But most 'undocumented workers' don't have drivers licenses so how are they supposed to vote?

Obama's working on that...

BigTip
11/7/2014, 11:22 AM
Obama's working on that...

lol. Reminds me of the joke:

"The Associated Press announced Tuesday that it will no longer use the term “illegal immigrant.”

On NBC’s Tonight Show, host Jay Leno said, “They will now use the phrase ‘undocumented Democrat’”

okie52
11/7/2014, 11:33 AM
lol. Reminds me of the joke:

"The Associated Press announced Tuesday that it will no longer use the term “illegal immigrant.”

On NBC’s Tonight Show, host Jay Leno said, “They will now use the phrase ‘undocumented Democrat’”

Heh heh...sad but true...

badger
11/7/2014, 12:48 PM
Neither.

Just observing what's happened most mid terms. Low voter turnout.

Hawaii, for example had it's lowest voter turnout since statehood. Read somewhere that only 1/3 of eligible voters actually showed up.

5-0

I know that overall numbers suggest otherwise, but there seemed to be higher turnout at our precinct Tuesday. Not as high as the first Obama race, but still more busy than normal. Then again, I vote in primaries and runoffs, so I might just be thinking about the days that precinct volunteers are bored outta their minds and holy cow and actual live voter visiting us! ;)