I really wonder if Sam Bradford deep down......

[cortezsooner]

.....has a part of him that LOVES what's happening to the Rams?

Because of constantly reading the garbage of Rams fans on their forums, I love every minute of what is going on with them, and would love to see them finish 1-15. For Sam's entire career there, he has been surrounded with TOTAL CRAP talent, and yet Rams fans have acted for years like they would just be handed a Super Bowl if it weren't for Sam's horrible playing. I feel like he done a pretty good job with the garbage they surrounded him with.

And this year they appear to have some decent talent, poised to get better and make a run to the playoffs. Sam goes down, a fourth string QB looks good, but guess what, same old Rams!! Lol!! The forth string nothing-to-lose QB always looks good for awhile, and he also has more talent around him than Sam has ever had in St. Louis.

Sam may be a good teammate, but you can't tell me some part of him isn't just laughing deep down at the embarrassment that the Rams once again are. I think surrounded by this team, he would have been in for a really good year, and he has to know that.

There is a lot of speculation that the Rams will part ways with him after this year, I wonder if he hopes so as much as I do????

[Eielson]

It's not the Rams' fault that Sam is injury-prone.

I can also give you about 13,000,000 reasons why Sam doesn't want the Rams to cut him. But they will. It's just a matter of if he will resign for less.

[swardboy]

I think Sam should pack up his ping pong table and go. Someone out there will want him. Right now it's a terrible situation in St. Louis. Fisher is what he was in Nashville, a no title coach. Visiting fans outnumber home town fans. The owner is mum about staying or leaving for LA. Just a toxic place.

[Aries]

Not really, because if you listen to what Rams fans are saying, they are pretty happy with how Austin Davis is playing.

[badger]

The owner is mum about staying or leaving for LA

I wish the league would hurry up and put a team in LA so that owners could stop threatening to move there... but that's kind of the point I guess. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/10/09/the-politics-behind-why-los-angeles-doesnt-have-an-nfl-team/)

I really wish some town would just throw their hands up and let them leave instead of taxpayers footing a new stadium every time LA is mentioned. Then, the California liberals can turn down their corporate welfare requests in the most blue state way possible :D:D:D

[rock on sooner]

It's not the Rams' fault that Sam is injury-prone.

I can also give you about 13,000,000 reasons why Sam doesn't want the Rams to cut him. But they will. It's just a matter of if he will resign for less.

Considering that Sam will have been paid $65m of his contract by the end of
the season, I doubt that he's too concerned about anything other than getting
healthy and a great rehab. If it were me, I'd have my agent looking at teams
that have a decent O-line, wideouts and, perhaps, a reliable running back. Sam
certainly has underwhelmed for a first overall pick, until you take a look at what
his supporting cast has been....

[beached_sooner]

... If it were me, I'd have my agent looking at teams
that have a decent O-line, wideouts and, perhaps, a reliable running back. Sam
certainly has underwhelmed for a first overall pick, until you take a look at what
his supporting cast has been....

Sounds like the Dallas Cowboys. Romo can't last more than a year or two longer, and I'll be damned if I'm going to root for that puke Brandon Weeden !!

[Eielson]

Considering that Sam will have been paid $65m of his contract by the end of
the season, I doubt that he's too concerned about anything other than getting
healthy and a great rehab.

Athletes are always after more money. Just look at Kobe.


If it were me, I'd have my agent looking at teams
that have a decent O-line, wideouts and, perhaps, a reliable running back.

If you're looking for a decent O-line, that's exactly what the Rams have, and have pretty much had all of Sam's career. They've never been great, but they've usually been about average. If Robinson pans out, they could be looking at above average soon. We'll see.

WR has been the weak spot, but Sam will have plenty of targets if he comes back healthy. Quick has developed into a beast, and Cook is a great target at TE. If Austin is ever utilized correctly, he's going to tear it up. Bailey has looked promising at times as well, and Bradford and Givens seemed to work together well. Givens has pretty much disappeared since Sam's injury, though.

I also like the stable of RB's they have. Stacy looked good as a rookie last year, and Mason looked great in his limited carries last night. Mason just needs to work on his pass protection.

It's a young, talented group that's just waiting for a QB to take over. It's a perfect spot for Sam, but he hasn't been healthy, so he hasn't been able to take advantage of it.

[Eielson]

I wish the league would hurry up and put a team in LA so that owners could stop threatening to move there... but that's kind of the point I guess. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/10/09/the-politics-behind-why-los-angeles-doesnt-have-an-nfl-team/)

I really wish some town would just throw their hands up and let them leave instead of taxpayers footing a new stadium every time LA is mentioned. Then, the California liberals can turn down their corporate welfare requests in the most blue state way possible :D:D:D

I really do think the Rams are moving back to LA. I heard tickets for MNF were as low as $8 last night, and they still couldn't get St. Louis fans in the stands. St. Louis is all about their Cardinals.

[engineer24]

Lets face it -- Sam Bradford and RG3 have the same problem -- they go down constantly mostly on minimal contact or non-contact plays. They are both just fragile players who cant take even normal hits in the NFL without getting hurt.

[BoulderSooner79]

We can't read minds, but if there is an athlete our there not motivated by more money, it would be Sam. He's told interviewers that he really hasn't bought any expensive things since starting his career. Now it could be he has bigger plans like a leveraged buyout of a multi-billion dollar company or something. My bet would be his motivation is more toward getting healthy and getting another shot to prove he is a winner.

[cortezsooner]

Not really, because if you listen to what Rams fans are saying, they are pretty happy with how Austin Davis is playing.

LMAO, You think???? Take a look at their board today, maybe the game thread from last night. They are already turning on Austin Davis! I think those fans would call for Tom Brady's head if he was their QB, once he had one bad game!!

[Eielson]

LMAO, You think???? Take a look at their board today, maybe the game thread from last night. They are already turning on Austin Davis! I think those fans would call for Tom Brady's head if he was their QB, once he had one bad game!!

He had an awful second half, but nobody is calling for his head. Janoris Jenkins and Jake Long on the other hand...

[bluedogok]

I really do think the Rams are moving back to LA. I heard tickets for MNF were as low as $8 last night, and they still couldn't get St. Louis fans in the stands. St. Louis is all about their Cardinals.
StL has always been a baseball first town.

[SoCalBigRed]

LMAO at the thought that team, prior to this year, has put anything other garbage around him... INCLUDING offensive line (and if you don't have targets to hit, those "OK" lines, don't hold up to NFL D pressure for long)

No wonder he's "injury prone".

[cortezsooner]

LMAO at the thought that team, prior to this year, has put anything other garbage around him... INCLUDING offensive line (and if you don't have targets to hit, those "OK" lines, don't hold up to NFL D pressure for long)

No wonder he's "injury prone".

+1 on this! I have watched the Rams week in and week out since Sam sadly became a Ram, and he has been put in a HORRIBLE situation every year.

[badger]

I really do think the Rams are moving back to LA. I heard tickets for MNF were as low as $8 last night, and they still couldn't get St. Louis fans in the stands. St. Louis is all about their Cardinals.

Well, they better be cuz at this rate they'll only have one pro team left... unless the NHL's Blues count???

[cvsooner]

I wish the league would hurry up and put a team in LA so that owners could stop threatening to move there... but that's kind of the point I guess. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/10/09/the-politics-behind-why-los-angeles-doesnt-have-an-nfl-team/)

I really wish some town would just throw their hands up and let them leave instead of taxpayers footing a new stadium every time LA is mentioned. Then, the California liberals can turn down their corporate welfare requests in the most blue state way possible :D:D:D

Hey, if we wanted a professional football team in L.A., we wouldn't want the Rams. St. Louis doesn't seem to want one either (Arizona Cardinals, anyone?) We already kicked them out once, along with the Raiders. Professional football is well represented out here by the 49ers and the Chargers. So there.

[Eielson]

No wonder he's "injury prone".

You do realize that he went down (twice) and missed most of his final year at OU due to injury, right? He had some of the finest pass blocking O-lines in the country during his time here. I also think he might have went down in HS as well.

[bluedogok]

Hey, if we wanted a professional football team in L.A., we wouldn't want the Rams. St. Louis doesn't seem to want one either (Arizona Cardinals, anyone?) We already kicked them out once, along with the Raiders. Professional football is well represented out here by the 49ers and the Chargers. So there.
I thought USC was the pro team in LA?

[swardboy]

You do realize that he went down (twice) and missed most of his final year at OU due to injury, right? He had some of the finest pass blocking O-lines in the country during his time here. I also think he might have went down in HS as well.

That 'fine' blocking line let a BYU player come untouched and drive Sam into the ground on his right shoulder the first game of Sam's junior season. He was out three weeks and then came back to throw for 389 yards against Baylor. The following week that 'fine' blocking line let a Texas play through UNTOUCHED and he drove Sam into the ground on the same shoulder, thus ending his career at OU. Hard for me to see that as "two" injuries...just a more serious aggravation of the initial one.

His St. Louis ACL tear was so freakish at Carolina, running out of bounds onto that crappy cloth covering they had on the sideline, with an extra little push from a defensive a%%hole. The re-injury was a result of not taking the proper time to recup....not everyone is a beast like Adrian Peterson.

I think both injuries could have happened to ANYBODY in Sam's position. I add the high ankle sprain to that theme. He got killed by his inept line whatever year that was. Sorry, I just bristle at the term "injury prone" because I think Sam is still young and could go the rest of his career without a problem for all we know. I prefer the term "snakebit."

[Eielson]

How many injuries are you chalking up to bad luck/blocking? 5? 6?

He's injury-prone.

[BoulderSooner79]

That 'fine' blocking line let a BYU player come untouched and drive Sam into the ground on his right shoulder the first game of Sam's junior season. He was out three weeks and then came back to throw for 389 yards against Baylor. The following week that 'fine' blocking line let a Texas play through UNTOUCHED and he drove Sam into the ground on the same shoulder, thus ending his career at OU. Hard for me to see that as "two" injuries...just a more serious aggravation of the initial one.



When there was speculation about Sam declaring after his sophomore season, several NFL scouts said they wanted to see how he did under more pressure first. They said the protection he got front he line in '08 was not realistic of what he could get from even a top NFL O-line. They were not convinced he could protect himself properly and take the hits. It took 1/2 a game in '09 to justify that concern. In the NFL, a pass rusher is going to come in untouched at least once or twice a game and it is up to the QB to handle it.

[JLMSOONER]

St. Louis is a baseball only town. Except that one year when Kurt Warner........I've been to several Rams games the last 3 years and there just isn't any support for them. The Cards on the other hand are the chosen ones. One reason why I hope KC wins it all. Don't think it will happen but another I70 series would be awesome and I would pull for the royals.

[BoulderSooner79]

St. Louis is a baseball only town. Except that one year when Kurt Warner........I've been to several Rams games the last 3 years and there just isn't any support for them. The Cards on the other hand are the chosen ones. One reason why I hope KC wins it all. Don't think it will happen but another I70 series would be awesome and I would pull for the royals.

The Giants are trying to make that match-up unlikely as I'm typing…

[swardboy]

How many injuries are you chalking up to bad luck/blocking? 5? 6?

He's injury-prone.

Well since you ask, two.

[Blue]

This guy says Sam is fragile....https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRUMrv3SEPPB8k1eZzdbliwYL1mJAkUk uCNnB3ZFNcxFyMgtXBV

[Eielson]

Well since you ask, two.

Shoulder #1. Shoulder #2. High ankle sprains. Knee #1. Knee #2.

I love him, but the only seasons he's been healthy for are the ones where he was getting unbelievable blocking. Hope it changes, but he's the definition of injury-prone.

[JLMSOONER]

He got clobbered his first 2 years with the Rams. No receivers and no line make it pretty hard on a passing QB. The only thing the Rams had going for them was the running game and even the RB bailed.

[Pride1Mom]

Bradford was a scratch golfer, maybe a better career option?

[swardboy]

Shoulder #1. Shoulder #2. High ankle sprains. Knee #1. Knee #2.

I love him, but the only seasons he's been healthy for are the ones where he was getting unbelievable blocking. Hope it changes, but he's the definition of injury-prone.

You asked due to "bad luck/bad blocking" . I see the shoulder as one continuous injury, and the knee as one continuous injury. The high ankle sprain doesn't qualify, it's the internet, therefore it's me for the win!

[SoonerForLife92]

Shoulder #1. Shoulder #2. High ankle sprains. Knee #1. Knee #2.

I love him, but the only seasons he's been healthy for are the ones where he was getting unbelievable blocking. Hope it changes, but he's the definition of injury-prone.

Reaggravating an injury does not make it two injuries.

[bluedogok]

His St. Louis ACL tear was so freakish at Carolina, running out of bounds onto that crappy cloth covering they had on the sideline, with an extra little push from a defensive a%%hole.
I hate that plastic tarp on the sideline crap, every time someone hits it full speed it looks like they are trying to stop on a sheet of ice. They need to get rid of that crap, I realize pro fields tend to be used more but as few games that are played on a field the ground crew should be able to handle it.

[Eielson]

You asked due to "bad luck/bad blocking" . I see the shoulder as one continuous injury, and the knee as one continuous injury. The high ankle sprain doesn't qualify, it's the internet, therefore it's me for the win!

In Sam's case, I suppose you're right. Only missing 6 games due to injury really doesn't qualify as an injury-plagued season, because he usually misses the whole season (or close to it). Of course, that's basically an admission that he's injury-prone, so you still failed.

By season's end, Sam will have played in 49 out of his last 93 games (dating back to his final year at OU). Everything about Sam screams injury-prone. I love Sam, and I can say good things about him all day. He's injury-prone, though, and you're not thinking reasonably if you say otherwise.

[Eielson]

Reaggravating an injury does not make it two injuries.

If you want to argue that...sure. Reaggravating injuries doesn't exempt you from being injury prone, though.

[SoonerForLife92]

If you want to argue that...sure. Reaggravating injuries doesn't exempt you from being injury prone, though.

A fact isn't an argument.

Sam could be injury prone or he could be extremely unlucky. You've made some valid points as to why he is injury prone but until we see a bit more of his career i'm going to hope for the latter.

[Eielson]

A fact isn't an argument.

The argument could easily be made. One injury may have led to another, but they weren't all the exact same thing. Also, I don't really think you can classify season ending ACL tears as "aggravations."

[SoonerForLife92]

The argument could easily be made. One injury may have led to another, but they weren't all the exact same thing. Also, I don't really think you can classify season ending ACL tears as "aggravations."

I was referring to the shoulder injury

[okiewaker]

Twitter was abuzz at Austin Davis the other day,,,..until the second half. They were ready to guillotine his arse. Whatever happens, I hope Sam comes out on top.

[Eielson]

I was referring to the shoulder injury

I can give you that one, as he probably shouldn't have been out there. I always wonder what the medical staff saw that made them think they could send him back out there.

[BoulderSooner79]

I can give you that one, as he probably shouldn't have been out there. I always wonder what the medical staff saw that made them think they could send him back out there.

No, he should not have been out there, but that's the football mentality. There were already rumors the shoulder wouldn't heal by itself and he would need post season surgery. That "tap" by a horn corner back pretty much proved he wasn't healthy - no way that tackle would have caused an injury to a healthy player.

[Eielson]

No, he should not have been out there, but that's the football mentality. There were already rumors the shoulder wouldn't heal by itself and he would need post season surgery. That "tap" by a horn corner back pretty much proved he wasn't healthy - no way that tackle would have caused an injury to a healthy player.

I tend to agree that he shouldn't have been out there, and that is seemingly validated by the Texas injury, but what were the doctors looking at? I just find it hard to believe that Bradford would knowingly go out there if he thought the injury to his $100M arm could get worse or that he wouldn't be fully healthy for the combine, and I doubt the doctor would clear him without making that known. I don't know. I just find it puzzling.