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FaninAma
10/2/2014, 05:03 PM
Because they are the ones who created it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/opinion/isis-atrocities-started-with-saudi-support-for-salafi-hate.html?_r=0

A chronology of the House of Saud and how it created and propagated Islamic extermism around the globe and the role the United States played.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saud/cron/

8timechamps
10/2/2014, 05:07 PM
The situation in the ME will never change unless/until the Saudi's want it to, which is probably never.

Saudi Arabia is one of the most restrictive countries in the world, yet they are rarely (if ever) the subject of discussion. As long as the world (specifically the west) is energy dependent, things will remain status quo.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/2/2014, 05:23 PM
Drill baby, drill...then drill some more...then pipeline baby, pipeline, etc. then vote out the socialists. all of these in any order.(ie, vote first if possible)

FaninAma
10/2/2014, 05:44 PM
Drill baby, drill...then drill some more...then pipeline baby, pipeline, etc. then vote out the socialists. all of these in any order.(ie, vote first if possible)
Exactly. I wonder if GOP administration takes over from Obama if they will encourage the US to become completely energy independent or if they will also throw up artificial road blocks to our energy resource development for the sake of helping the 2 faced monarchy in Saudi Arabia.

BoulderSooner79
10/2/2014, 06:29 PM
Because they are the ones who created it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/opinion/isis-atrocities-started-with-saudi-support-for-salafi-hate.html?_r=0

A chronology of the House of Saud and how it created and propagated Islamic extermism around the globe and the role the United States played.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saud/cron/

The House of Saud has played it's role mostly in order to maintain it's power. They thought they would be overthrown if they didn't pander to the extremists and they were probably correct. It's unclear how long they can stay in power, but I think it is shorter than most believe. Their domestic oil consumption is steadily rising and I've read many articles from oil industry types that think their reserve estimates are greatly exaggerated. If they run out of oil for export, they can no longer buy a cushy lifestyle for the masses in order to maintain support. The fundamentalist clerics will take over at that point because there is no shortage of the BS they can spout.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/2/2014, 06:56 PM
Exactly. I wonder if GOP administration takes over from Obama if they will encourage the US to become completely energy independent or if they will also throw up artificial road blocks to our energy resource development for the sake of helping the 2 faced monarchy in Saudi Arabia.if anyone votes 3rd party, they are helping the dems to stay in office. As to what the R's will do if they gain power again...well, that's our only hope.

FaninAma
10/2/2014, 07:17 PM
I will vote for all GOP Senate candidates but I will not vote for Tom Cole. He is the poster boy for a RINO.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/2/2014, 07:22 PM
I will vote for all GOP Senate candidates but I will not vote for Tom Cole. He is the poster boy for a RINO.He COULD go along with the R's on a good vote, just to not look stupid. A D will almost assuredly not go along with a good vote.

rock on sooner
10/2/2014, 08:18 PM
Sorry, guys/gals, money talks and whatever big money wants is what will happen!
Citizens United makes that certain, and, as I sit and type, it will go back and forth...
The pipelines? Arguments are back and forth...they are NOT fool proof safe, but
probably moreso than rail/trucks...Keystone? Nah, that stuff is going overseas
anyway....Bakken, different story...the one through Iowa's 17 counties could be
useful but the developers don't have a sound argument about safety and are really
shady about the whole thing....

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/2/2014, 08:22 PM
Originally Posted by FaninAma
I will vote for all GOP Senate candidates but I will not vote for Tom Cole. He is the poster boy for a RINO.
He COULD go along with the R's on a good vote, just to not look stupid. A D will almost assuredly not go along with a good vote.Also, a vote for Cole, even if he's a dipsh*t, will help the R's gain the majhority, to keep the gawdawful D's from further infesting our government.

rock on sooner
10/2/2014, 08:24 PM
if anyone votes 3rd party, they are helping the dems to stay in office. As to what the R's will do if they gain power again...well, that's our only hope.

Rush, ahem, you are correct...indies and their votes will hurt whichever
party is favored in any race. I'm certain the R's are no more honorable
than the D's....I'll repeat what I said in several earlier posts...EVERY
DAYUM INCUMBENT orta be tossed right now and we start over with
younger, clear thinkers on both sides! Ima thinkin those folks wanna try
to get along and get something done...jus sayin...

FaninAma
10/8/2014, 10:36 PM
In 1902, a direct descendent of Muhammad ibn Saud, twenty-year-old Abd al-Aziz ibn Saud, rides out of the desert with 60 of his brothers and cousins to restore the rule of Al Saud. He captures Riyadh, the ancient capital of the Saudi kingdom, but to conquer all of the Arabian Peninsula, he seeks the help of nomadic Bedouins, the Ikhwan, or Muslim brothers. Renowned warriors, the Ikhwan are also fervent Wahhabi Islamic puritans who want to spread their form of Islam throughout the Middle East.

So the jackasses in Saudi Arabia make a deal with the devil and we end up being their biggest supporter.

TAFBSooner
10/9/2014, 01:21 PM
if anyone votes 3rd party, they are helping the dems to stay in office. As to what the R's will do if they gain power again...well, that's our only hope.

Half correct.
If anyone votes Libertarian, they are helping Democrats.
If anyone votes Green, they are helping Republicans. Not possible here but there are Greens on the ballot in other states.

Voting by itself is no hope at all. Getting commitments from candidates before the primaries, and then voting, is the only way for the 99% to have influence. And yes, most Republicans are also in the no-access 99% of the population.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/9/2014, 01:45 PM
Half correct.
If anyone votes Libertarian, they are helping Democrats.
If anyone votes Green, they are helping Republicans. Not possible here but there are Greens on the ballot in other states.

certainly. If a third party candidate appeals to constitutionalists and has ffree market economic values and doesn't like unauthorized social spending, that candidate will divide the conservative vote, thereby helping the democrats. Socialism espousing third party candidates hurt the left, by taking votes from the democrats.

The only time I can remember the latter situation happening was when Ralph Nader ran, and took some votes from algore.

jkjsooner
10/9/2014, 05:03 PM
The situation in the ME will never change unless/until the Saudi's want it to, which is probably never.


We could let ISIS go free and threaten the Saudi government. I think those guys would chop the heads off a few in the royal family. That might get the message across.

Note: I don't really think we should do that but surely Saudi Arabia sees what they have created as a threat.