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oupride
9/29/2014, 01:23 PM
"OU just doesn't have the receiving core." - FishThtSvdWaco

"For the first time since the Adrian Peterson era, OK is more of a running team than a passing one." - california horn

"TCU is very impressive. I think this game will be a knock-down-drag-out kind of game. If OU is able to win this game, then they are for real." - ftblbob5

http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280718

badger
9/29/2014, 01:31 PM
Schools from Texas team fanbases never cease to revel in the fact that they are so football knowledgeable, especially on the Internets. We'll just see which team is begging their home fans to shaddap when their team's off offense and which team is glaring at their crowd for sitting on their hands when the team's on defense...

:D:D:D Oh wait, that's because Baylor for years has had to rely on visiting teams like OU to fill their mostly vacant and partially tarped stadium and all of that poorly timed noise was the visiting OU fans! Silly me. :D:D:D

EatLeadCommie
9/29/2014, 01:44 PM
The TCU and Baylor games will be our most difficult this year.

Sooner91ATL
9/29/2014, 02:06 PM
The TCU and Baylor games will be our most difficult this year.

concur. TCU will be a tough test for our offense. First time we face a truly multiple QB as well. Teams are going to max protect against us and test our DBs. Will be a tough one in Ft Worth. Must be disciplined against the big play on D, and on O the receivers have got to get open and hang onto the ball, to loosen up that front seven/eight.

Eielson
9/29/2014, 02:15 PM
I think OSU will be tougher than TCU. I could see TCU keeping it close, but I don't expect them to be able to beat us.

BoulderSooner79
9/29/2014, 02:43 PM
TCU has out played us in the second half the last 2 years - largely on Boykins' performance. Now he is the unchallenged starter with over 2 years experience. It took an excellent pass break-up play at the goal line by Julian Wilson to prevent TCU from tying the game 2 years ago and a 75 yard run by Brennen Clay last year to break a tie late last year. We're certainly a better team this year, but TCU may be as well.

8timechamps
9/29/2014, 02:47 PM
TCU has out played us in the second half the last 2 years - largely on Boykins' performance. Now he is the unchallenged starter with over 2 years experience. It took an excellent pass break-up play at the goal line by Julian Wilson to prevent TCU from tying the game 2 years ago and a 75 yard run by Brennen Clay last year to break a tie late last year. We're certainly a better team this year, but TCU may be as well.

The big variable is TCU's new offense. So far, they have executed well, and it appears to be an improvement. We'll see if they can continue that against a loaded defense.

On the other side of the ball, TCU is always good. Just a sound fundamental defensive squad. However, they don't have DeVonte Fields this year (but in fairness, he wasn't much of a factor last year), or Jason Verrett (who was absolutely a factor last year). So, they may not be as tough on that side of the ball as they have been in recent years.

soonergirlNeugene
9/29/2014, 03:43 PM
I hope the bye week gave Sanchez enough time to get healthy.

SicEmBaylor
9/29/2014, 04:42 PM
Just so we're clear -- California horn is not a Baylor fan; although, I do enjoy his posts....for a Whorn.

oupride
9/29/2014, 04:48 PM
Just so we're clear -- California horn is not a Baylor fan;
He might be a Baylor fan THIS year.

aurorasooner
9/29/2014, 05:14 PM
I would have to agree with the statement about our receiving corps. After watching the other ""top teams, I think that it is pretty much correct. Of course, that has a lot to do TK making the correct reads and throwing a ""catch-able pass to an open receiver. I look at other teams and they've got the 6'3/ 6'5 wide-outs with speed who can go up and get the ball.
I think JH/HCBS plays it like the previous 2 games, unless we get behind early due to TOs/tied/ or the TCU D is continually stuffing our unimaginative rushing game. The fans that are complaining about TK not running the ball more, are going to be disappointed, unless we fall behind early and have to open it up in the 2nd half to win. As long as we have a 10 point or more lead, we'll just play it safe and next Monday, the ESecPN/CBSec talking heads will diss us as not "looking like a top 5 team".
After hearing all of this for a week, I do believe after last year HCBS lets it all hang out at the Cotton Bowl with screens/mis-direction/options/getting B.Bell involved more in the passing game etc, and puts a substantial beat down on the Whorns.
If the prize is making the playoffs though, it won't mean squat if we don't take care of business on Saturday.


Just so we're clear -- California horn is not a Baylor fan; although, I do enjoy his posts....for a Whorn. SicEm, what did you think about that Whorn player's bulletin board material. I just read that he said something like "Baylor is still Baylor even though they're winning, and we're Texass"

EatLeadCommie
9/29/2014, 05:48 PM
I would have to agree with the statement about our receiving corps. After watching the other ""top teams, I think that it is pretty much correct. Of course, that has a lot to do TK making the correct reads and throwing a ""catch-able pass to an open receiver. I look at other teams and they've got the 6'3/ 6'5 wide-outs with speed who can go up and get the ball.

Yeah, and I'm not sure how good he has been at making his reads. I still see a lot of staring down of receivers, which I guess is to be expected with so few starts under his belt. That will decrease with time. I'm more concerned about the accuracy of his throws at this point.

Our WR corps is still a big unknown, but we're slowly seeing the other guys get involved. It will be nice to have Ford back for some backfield receptions. I've also been glad to see Young get more in the mix lately. He and Neal need to step up.

8timechamps
9/29/2014, 05:49 PM
I would have to agree with the statement about our receiving corps. After watching the other ""top teams, I think that it is pretty much correct. Of course, that has a lot to do TK making the correct reads and throwing a ""catch-able pass to an open receiver. I look at other teams and they've got the 6'3/ 6'5 wide-outs with speed who can go up and get the ball.

There's not that may 6'3"+ WRs with speed. I think you're overestimating what's out there. Most of the top teams have maybe one tall guy at WR, the rest are typical of what we have on the field every Saturday. Look at Florida State for instance; Of their starting 3 wide-outs, only one is above 6'0" (Greene 5'11", Wilson 5'9", Green 6'2")...Or Auburn (who runs a similar offense), 2 of their starting 4 are over 6'0", but not 6'3"-6'5" (Bray 5'10", Coates 6'1", Truitt 5'9", Williams 6'2").

So, when you look at our starting 3 (Shepard 5'10", Neal 5'11" and Young 6'0"), it's not that different. We do lack that one guy tall guy that can cause a mismatch with a corner on a fade, but it hasn't really hurt us at this point.

I'm not saying we have a tall receiving corp by any means, but the idea that great teams need 4 guys over 6'3" is a myth. If there were a bounty of 6'3" burners, you'd see them everywhere. The fact is there just aren't that many, and almost no 6'5" guys with elite speed.



I think JH/HCBS plays it like the previous 2 games, unless we get behind early due to TOs/tied/ or the TCU D is continually stuffing our unimaginative rushing game. The fans that are complaining about TK not running the ball more, are going to be disappointed, unless we fall behind early and have to open it up in the 2nd half to win. As long as we have a 10 point or more lead, we'll just play it safe and next Monday, the ESecPN/CBSec talking heads will diss us as not "looking like a top 5 team".
After hearing all of this for a week, I do believe after last year HCBS lets it all hang out at the Cotton Bowl with screens/mis-direction/options/getting B.Bell involved more in the passing game etc, and puts a substantial beat down on the Whorns.
If the prize is making the playoffs though, it won't mean squat if we don't beat take care of business on Saturday.



I don't have a problem with an 'unimaginative running plays' if they work like they have, but we both know the defenses are going to get better. I doubt we've seen anywhere near the entire playbook. We may not see much more as long as our running game is producing, but again, there's bound to be a game that requires more.

As for the ESPN/CBS talking heads, I'm not sure I'm hearing what you're hearing. Today, on Championship Drive (a daily ESPNU show dedicated to the 'contenders' in CFB), OU was ranked either #1 or #2 depending on who's list it was. And the last time I looked, OU was #1 in the ESPN power poll. TCU is ranked this week, so a win will be good regardless of the score. In any event, if we take care of business and win out, it won't matter if we won every game by 5 or 50, we'll be in the playoff.

aurorasooner
9/29/2014, 06:37 PM
As for the ESPN/CBS talking heads, I'm not sure I'm hearing what you're hearing. Today, on Championship Drive (a daily ESPNU show dedicated to the 'contenders' in CFB), OU was ranked either #1 or #2 depending on who's list it was. And the last time I looked, OU was #1 in the ESPN power poll. TCU is ranked this week, so a win will be good regardless of the score. In any event, if we take care of business and win out, it won't matter if we won every game by 5 or 50, we'll be in the playoff.
Seems like all that I've been hearing is that FSU/aTm didn't look like a top 5 team this weekend, even though they won.
Hell, I was pretty impressed with the Pigs running game (running play design), offensive line, getting their tight end involved in their passing game, and their overall effort and even with the aTm win, even though they were lucky to be in that game and take it into OT.
This is the problem that I have about taking the computers completely out of the playoff equation. They aren't swayed by all of the talking heads spew, and as we all know the only difference in the network's talking heads opinions and knowledgeable CFB fans is that they have a mic and get a paycheck from their network and seem to slanted in their comments to boost their networks next Saturday's CFB TV ratings. I doubt that any of them are completely objective and w/o bias, although some are more level than others.
Hopefully this supposedly unbiased playoff committee isn't listening to any of their opinionated drivel.

btw, if we barely win by a point or 3 points in the next 3 weeks, these ""analysts will come out of the woodwork to pizz on us. A win is a win, just doesn't cut it anymore unless it is a 65-13 type beat down, which imo is a shame.

8timechamps
9/29/2014, 07:00 PM
Seems like all that I've been hearing is that FSU/aTm didn't look like a top 5 team this weekend, even though they won.
Hell, I was pretty impressed with the Pigs running game (running play design), offensive line, getting their tight end involved in their passing game, and their overall effort and even with the aTm win, even though they were lucky to be in that game and take it into OT.
This is the problem that I have about taking the computers completely out of the playoff equation. They aren't swayed by all of the talking heads spew, and as we all know the only difference in the network's talking heads opinions and knowledgeable CFB fans is that they have a mic and get a paycheck from their network and seem to slanted in their comments to boost their networks next Saturday's CFB TV ratings. I doubt that any of them are completely objective and w/o bias, although some are more level than others.
Hopefully this supposedly unbiased playoff committee isn't listening to any of their opinionated drivel.

btw, if we barely win by a point or 3 points in the next 3 weeks, these ""analysts will come out of the woodwork to pizz on us. A win is a win, just doesn't cut it anymore unless it is a 65-13 type beat down, which imo is a shame.

My hope is that the playoff committee does what they said they would do, and ignore the media (they didn't say that specifically, but they said they would base their rankings on their own opinion). We'll know in a few weeks, when the first committee poll comes out (the only one that matters).

It's funny because not to long ago the score differential was taken out of the computer equations, supposedly because they didn't want that to be an important component. With the current system, it's almost a liability to win close against teams that should be blown out. I agree, it's is a shame.

BoulderSooner79
9/29/2014, 07:04 PM
The committee members will be far more occupied with how to push their own hidden agendas in the meetings than any outside polls or media spew.

:nevreness:

aurorasooner
9/29/2014, 07:18 PM
The committee members will be far more occupied with how to push their own hidden agendas in the meetings than any outside polls or media spew.

:nevreness: It's really too bad that 5 teams don't fit into this 2 game playoff (2 semi games then 1 championship), and 6 teams would push the playoffs to 3 weeks and almost into the spring semester/ recruiting.

I'm almost in favor of going back to the old bowl system, and having the number 1 team chosen where it should be, with debate on the FB boards/polls.
Honestly the old bowl system wasn't that bad. It did get bad when the major bowls were pushed farther away from New Year's Day for TV, though, and then having 1 or 2 weedeater bowls sprinkled in after the 1st of the year.

8timechamps
9/29/2014, 08:29 PM
The committee members will be far more occupied with how to push their own hidden agendas in the meetings than any outside polls or media spew.

:nevreness:

Wouldn't it be nice if the selection process were televised? Of course nobody would agree to be on the committee if that happened. Too many crazy fans out there.

8timechamps
9/29/2014, 08:32 PM
It's really too bad that 5 teams don't fit into this 2 game playoff (2 semi games then 1 championship), and 6 teams would push the playoffs to 3 weeks and almost into the spring semester/ recruiting.

I'm almost in favor of going back to the old bowl system, and having the number 1 team chosen where it should be, with debate on the FB boards/polls.
Honestly the old bowl system wasn't that bad. It did get bad when the major bowls were pushed farther away from New Year's Day for TV, though, and then having 1 or 2 weedeater bowls sprinkled in after the 1st of the year.

8 is the perfect number. I've been a proponent of 8 teams since the first discussion of a playoff.

It would only add one week to the process, and lets be honest, there's already a long break between the last game and the new year. Anyway, take the champions of the power 5, and 3 at-large teams. That way, the 'conference champions only' crowd would be satisfied, and the mid majors would have a chance to get a deserving team in, and if there were a really good team that lost a game (eliminating them from their conference championship), but deserved a shot, they could get in. Everyone's happy...except for the #9 team, but they didn't deserve a shot anyway.

SoonerMarkVA
9/29/2014, 08:55 PM
8 is the perfect number. I've been a proponent of 8 teams since the first discussion of a playoff.

It would only add one week to the process, and lets be honest, there's already a long break between the last game and the new year. Anyway, take the champions of the power 5, and 3 at-large teams. That way, the 'conference champions only' crowd would be satisfied, and the mid majors would have a chance to get a deserving team in, and if there were a really good team that lost a game (eliminating them from their conference championship), but deserved a shot, they could get in. Everyone's happy...except for the #9 team, but they didn't deserve a shot anyway.

This seems reasonable to me, since we're really talking about the P5 championship. If the committee ends up promoting multiple teams from any one conference, the conferences left out are going to be PO'd. All 5 (at least for now) need to buy in to the system, and ensuring that at /least/ the champion of each of the P5 gets their shot is, I think, going to be necessary for long-term success. Then again, this may all winnow down to having 4 16-team conferences, in which case the 4-team playoff will make more sense as long as they go with the champion of each conference.

soonergirlNeugene
9/29/2014, 09:33 PM
We have a handful of guys listed at 6'6 on the roster, but half of them are freshmen who haven't seen much playing time.

delhalew
9/29/2014, 09:43 PM
It's cute how Baylor has a little success, and suddenly their fans think anybody should listen to when they speak. Cuddwy Widdle Bears.

Flying Scotsman
9/29/2014, 09:54 PM
We are doomed?

aurorasooner
9/29/2014, 10:19 PM
I'm in favor of the 4-16 team power conferences, but then the teams left out of the power 4 conferences would bitch (& rightfully so, imo) and probably the only way this is happening if the NCAA is dissolved and the Power-4 conferences go their separate way. (and if any of the old Big 12-4+2 teams were left out of the Power-4 conferences, they would probably sue the (*&^ out of the departing teams)
The Prezs and ADs of the Big 12 have screwed up probably the best football conference with the best TV time slots in the country by letting Deloozer and the whorns dictate terms so much that 4 good teams got fed up and bolted. (well, 3 decent teams and now one cellar dweller, the puffs who were pretty decent in the Big 12) and I don't blame any of them for leaving.
They (the Big 12 prezs/ADs) underestimated what getting away from Texass would do for the Ags and have opened the door to the sustaining blood of the Big 12--- Texas HS recruiting --to another conference.
IMO, it's just been conference mismanagement on the same scale as the Federal Government.
I don't think there is any long term hope for the Big 12 conference staying afloat (as long as Texass doesn't give up the LwhN and us somehow dissolving our contract with Fox), and as long as the whorns don't pizz away another one of the best CFB rivalries, the RRR in Dallas, I'm also in favor of us getting into a Power 4 conference separate from them.
They're just all hat and no cattle when it comes to playing fair (a conference TV network where the proceeds are distributed equally to the members so all the conference universities can remain somewhat competitive both on the playing field and with their facilities upgrades).

SicEmBaylor
9/30/2014, 05:05 AM
I would have to agree with the statement about our receiving corps. After watching the other ""top teams, I think that it is pretty much correct. Of course, that has a lot to do TK making the correct reads and throwing a ""catch-able pass to an open receiver. I look at other teams and they've got the 6'3/ 6'5 wide-outs with speed who can go up and get the ball.
I think JH/HCBS plays it like the previous 2 games, unless we get behind early due to TOs/tied/ or the TCU D is continually stuffing our unimaginative rushing game. The fans that are complaining about TK not running the ball more, are going to be disappointed, unless we fall behind early and have to open it up in the 2nd half to win. As long as we have a 10 point or more lead, we'll just play it safe and next Monday, the ESecPN/CBSec talking heads will diss us as not "looking like a top 5 team".
After hearing all of this for a week, I do believe after last year HCBS lets it all hang out at the Cotton Bowl with screens/mis-direction/options/getting B.Bell involved more in the passing game etc, and puts a substantial beat down on the Whorns.
If the prize is making the playoffs though, it won't mean squat if we don't take care of business on Saturday.

SicEm, what did you think about that Whorn player's bulletin board material. I just read that he said something like "Baylor is still Baylor even though they're winning, and we're Texass"

lol, amusing as ****. They're 1-3 against us over the last four years, and he's never exactly brought much to the table against us. But I'm perfectly fine with him continuing to run his mouth.

SicEmBaylor
9/30/2014, 05:07 AM
It's cute how Baylor has a little success, and suddenly their fans think anybody should listen to when they speak. Cuddwy Widdle Bears.

Well, it was on a Baylor football board.....I wouldn't expect everyone to sit around discussing knitting techniques.

delhalew
9/30/2014, 05:43 AM
:)

deweydw
9/30/2014, 06:56 AM
So, there are discussion threads about knitting techniques on the Baylor football board. :highly_amused:


Well, it was on a Baylor football board.....I wouldn't expect everyone to sit around discussing knitting techniques.

Jason White's Third Knee
9/30/2014, 10:41 AM
So, there are discussion threads about knitting techniques on the Baylor football board. :highly_amused:


I think Sic'em was implying that most years, yes. Lot's of knitting. Less so in the past couple of years.

Tear Down This Wall
9/30/2014, 11:24 AM
TCU sucks. And, so does Baylor. And, so does Texas Tech. And, so does Texas. All former Southwest Conference schools suck.

There. It has been said. Again.

Okie35
9/30/2014, 02:46 PM
we will run on tcu easy, they haven't seen a line like ours

they've played no one so far like baylor

SicEmBaylor
9/30/2014, 05:29 PM
I haven't seen anything from TCU this season yet, but they're evidently playing better than I would have thought pre-season. **** TCU.

They're nothing but a small predominantly white entitled quasi-religious private school in a ****ty city with no real football history to speak of outside of very recent history. Who likes that kind of ****? Nobody.

TAFBSooner
9/30/2014, 05:45 PM
They're nothing but a small predominantly white entitled quasi-religious private school in a ****ty city with no real football history to speak of outside of very recent history. Who likes that kind of ****? Nobody.

I'm not used to you being so subtly ironic, Sic'Em.

Although you could have added ". . . outside of very recent history and a few moments of glory not remembered by half of CFB fandom."

TAFBSooner
9/30/2014, 05:51 PM
what did you think about that Whorn player's bulletin board material. I just read that he said something like "Baylor is still Baylor even though they're winning, and we're Texass"

The quoted player is definitely still texass: delusional, egotistical, and oblivious to football reality. I hope he has similar things to say about OU before the RRS.

BTW, Baylor is a 16 point favorite. In Austin.

BlownGP
9/30/2014, 07:35 PM
I sorta see a game like West Virginia. Probably less points but I don't see us blowing them out. That's not how we play anymore. Tcu as always been a sound football team. Unless we snap the ball in the end zone, have punt returned for td or lose the turn over battle. I don't see us losing.

Like stated they have played nobody, when we've played two pretty good teams. I think winning in that crazy West Virginia environment will go a long way.

SoCalBigRed
9/30/2014, 11:39 PM
I think winning in that crazy West Virginia environment will go a long way.

Good point! That game was definitely a gut check, because they did not bring the fire with them. WVU was the team I feared most early, though... I do admit to not paying much attention to TCU this year.

BoulderSooner79
10/1/2014, 12:20 AM
Good point! That game was definitely a gut check, because they did not bring the fire with them. WVU was the team I feared most early, though... I do admit to not paying much attention to TCU this year.

Who didn't bring the fire? OUr O-line sure had plenty of fire mowing down the defense and paving the way for 300 yards rushing. Maybe you mean the WVU fans didn't bring the fire to light the couches afterward?

olevetonahill
10/1/2014, 12:24 AM
I haven't seen anything from TCU this season yet, but they're evidently playing better than I would have thought pre-season. **** TCU.


They're nothing but a small predominantly white entitled quasi-religious private school in a ****ty city with no real football history to speak of outside of very recent history. Who likes that kind of ****? Nobody.

Pot Meet Kettle!

olevetonahill
10/1/2014, 12:26 AM
Take OU and the Points, Bet the Shack !

oupride
10/1/2014, 11:06 AM
The Baylor/Iowa State is very likely the lowest ever for primetime college football on any broadcast network.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/09/college-football-tv-ratings-fox-baylor-iowa-state-stanford-washington-overnights-low/

badger
10/1/2014, 11:09 AM
The Baylor/Iowa State is very likely the lowest ever for primetime college football on any broadcast network.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/09/college-football-tv-ratings-fox-baylor-iowa-state-stanford-washington-overnights-low/

It had two things going against it: Small fanbase teams and nobody expected it to be a strong matchup. At least when OU outmatches its opponents, its fans still watch en masse.

Tear Down This Wall
10/1/2014, 11:42 AM
It had two things going against it: Small fanbase teams and nobody expected it to be a strong matchup. At least when OU outmatches its opponents, its fans still watch en masse.

The problem is that some Fox sports TV exec out there made the mistake of believing that someone outside of Waco and Ames gave a sh*t about Baylor and Iowa State. The Mexican soccer league games probably get higher overnights than Baylor and Iowa State.

BlownGP
10/1/2014, 11:59 AM
The problem is that some Fox sports TV exec out there made the mistake of believing that someone outside of Waco and Ames gave a sh*t about Baylor and Iowa State. The Mexican soccer league games probably get higher overnights than Baylor and Iowa State.

x2

Sick of the Baylor hype.

There a good team, but until they do something worth while. Just another team.

badger
10/1/2014, 12:49 PM
Another problem with Baylor is that Art Briles and Co just aren't likeable. They are not downtrodden losers that are finally tasting success --- that happened already between RG3's Heisman and the Big 12 trophy last year. Now, they are just miserable Texas arrogance in football, which we've seen enough of over the years to give a collective yawn about.

Can the SEC take them? They've already taken two of our annoyances off our hands. One more shouldn't make much difference

Tear Down This Wall
10/1/2014, 02:06 PM
Another problem with Baylor is that Art Briles and Co just aren't likeable. They are not downtrodden losers that are finally tasting success --- that happened already between RG3's Heisman and the Big 12 trophy last year. Now, they are just miserable Texas arrogance in football, which we've seen enough of over the years to give a collective yawn about.

Can the SEC take them? They've already taken two of our annoyances off our hands. One more shouldn't make much difference

Lord. Don't you remember when the little pansies threatened to sue Texas A&M over the impending break up of the Big 12?

Look, I don't care what they do - and, from television records, neither does the rest of the country. And, when you have no football history to fall back on then get wiped up in a big bowl game by a directional school that shares a conference with SMU...just, no thanks.

Honestly, I'd be more apt to watch the Chivas/America Liga MX match if it were matched up in Saturday prime time with some random Baylor game because at least with a good Mexican soccer rivalry, there's a good chance of a riot in the stands spilling out onto the field.

http://edgecast.metatube-files.buscafs.com/uploads/videos/image/image_191314_1.jpg

badger
10/1/2014, 04:02 PM
Lord. Don't you remember when the little pansies threatened to sue Texas A&M over the impending break up of the Big 12?

Exactly. Since we're talking SEC it can be a shotgun wedding. I bet Arky would volunteer to hold the shotgun since they got humiliated by Aggie last weekend.

The SEC: Dumping ground for egotistical but underachieving programs... say, shall we send the Pokes there too? :stunned::rcmad:

SicEmBaylor
10/1/2014, 04:21 PM
There's so much ridiculous blue-blood entitlement going on in this thread that one could literally choke on it.

Tear Down This Wall
10/1/2014, 04:23 PM
Exactly. Since we're talking SEC it can be a shotgun wedding. I bet Arky would volunteer to hold the shotgun since they got humiliated by Aggie last weekend.

The SEC: Dumping ground for egotistical but underachieving programs... say, shall we send the Pokes there too? :stunned::rcmad:

Yes. Send them somewhere.

And, while we're on the thread hijack to soccer...

...what we P5s should do is what the professional soccer leagues do - relegate the last place teams to a lower division and make them work their way back up.

That would cut out the freeloading of bowl and conference television money that the Baylors, Kansases, and Vanderbilts of the world did for years...and, with Kansas, are still doing.

badger
10/1/2014, 04:44 PM
There's so much ridiculous blue-blood entitlement going on in this thread that one could literally choke on it.

Does Baylor have the Big 12 crown, or an inferiority complex? Ah, that's what you get when comparing the team that beat almighty Bama in its bowl and the team that beat the lowly AAC champ... directional floor iduh

Sick them, Baylor! Sick them so damn much :P

badger
10/1/2014, 04:46 PM
Yes. Send them somewhere.

AAC. That way they can play Central Florida every year. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

aurorasooner
10/1/2014, 06:20 PM
I can't really decide who to root for this WE, Baylor or Texas. On one hand, I can't stand to root for the whorns against anyone, but it would be nice to give them a monumental beat down, show their fans that last year was as big a fluke as Boo Blake actually winning a RRR game, and bring them back to reality after they've glimpsed a sort of mini resurrection by upsetting Baylor.
On the other hand, I don't think a miracle win for the whorns against Baylor will do anything for us the following week even we stomp them. Ticket prices for the Cotton Bowl will probably be at rock bottom though if Baylor does rip them a new one. ... and if TCU happens to pull an upset, no matter how unlikely, then ticket prices will probably be lower than the popularity of BP combined with Malaysian Airlines.
A beat down on an undefeated Baylor team at Owen Field would probably be the best scenario.
I do think Baylor will stomp a mud hole in the whorns, but if they don't, I won't lose any sleep over it.

As far as Fox's CFB ratings go, they're probably usually in the toilet (except when they have OU on) since they usually get ESecPN/ABC's CFB scraps. I don't really know how the ""pecking order is determined on CFB telecasts, but Fox execs are probably nut-squeezing like a bunch of aTm aggies when they either get the Sooners vs a high profile opponent or one of the better PAC teams against the same.
Fox seems content to be the mouse's whipping boy though, at least in getting high profile CFB contests.

BTW, does anyone know if Fox has got MLB immediately before our game on Sat? They usually move the start of their CFB game to their FS-2 which doesn't have much syndication instead of one of their more syndicated FCS stations which, except for one channel, is usually showing taped college gymnastics, wrasslin, or tiddle-d-winks. If they're televising MLB before our game, I'm worried about getting the start of our game if the MLB game goes into extra innings as they did with Texas/Kansas.

8timechamps
10/1/2014, 06:33 PM
The Baylor/Iowa State is very likely the lowest ever for primetime college football on any broadcast network.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/09/college-football-tv-ratings-fox-baylor-iowa-state-stanford-washington-overnights-low/

I was really surprised that was their prime-time game. I know they also have a contract with the PAC, so you'd think they could have found a better match-up.

8timechamps
10/1/2014, 06:35 PM
I can't really decide who to root for this WE, Baylor or Texas. On one hand, I can't stand to root for the whorns against anyone, but it would be nice to give them a monumental beat down, show their fans that last year was as big a fluke as Boo Blake actually winning a RRR game, and bring them back to reality after they've glimpsed a sort of mini resurrection by upsetting Baylor.
On the other hand, I don't think a miracle win for the whorns against Baylor will do anything for us the following week even we stomp them. Ticket prices for the Cotton Bowl will probably be at rock bottom though if Baylor does rip them a new one. ... and if TCU happens to pull an upset, no matter how unlikely, then ticket prices will probably be lower than the popularity of BP combined with Malaysian Airlines.
A beat down on an undefeated Baylor team at Owen Field would probably be the best scenario.
I do think Baylor will stomp a mud hole in the whorns, but if they don't, I won't lose any sleep over it.

I'd rather see Baylor win, because I want an undefeated match-up when they come to Norman.

EatLeadCommie
10/1/2014, 07:17 PM
Let's worry about TCU before Texas, and Texas before Baylor.

Eielson
10/1/2014, 07:23 PM
Let's worry about TCU before Texas, and Texas before Baylor.

I'll let Stoops and company do that. My worrying order is of no consequence.

BoulderSooner79
10/1/2014, 07:27 PM
I'm worried that this bye weeks seems to be lasting forever.

olevetonahill
10/1/2014, 07:37 PM
I'll let Stoops and company do that. My worrying order is of no consequence.

Bingo

EatLeadCommie
10/1/2014, 08:29 PM
I'll let Stoops and company do that. My worrying order is of no consequence.

Touche

mainline13
10/2/2014, 12:10 PM
There's so much ridiculous blue-blood entitlement going on in this thread that one could literally choke on it.

I'm thinking that it is only ridiculous to those who cannot even pretend to have the blue blood.

BlownGP
10/2/2014, 12:42 PM
There's so much ridiculous blue-blood entitlement going on in this thread that one could literally choke on it.

Did you forget what forum your on....lol

Props to them showing the big12 love though.. I can't get upset too much.

thecrimsoncrusader
10/2/2014, 01:22 PM
There's so much ridiculous blue-blood entitlement going on in this thread that one could literally choke on it.

It sucks to be you in every possible way.

TAFBSooner
10/2/2014, 02:34 PM
The SEC: Dumping ground for egotistical but underachieving programs... say, shall we send the Pokes there too? :stunned::rcmad:

I'd like to send them somewhere a lot closer - like the Big XII North. Bring in two teams, as long as one is north and one is south of the North Canadian. The downside is that pokey will start winning a species of championships, but the upside is:

We get to beat them twice per year!

badger
10/3/2014, 12:41 PM
Are we still in a Baylor bash mood? Because I have more ammo at the ready:
Baylor set its record for away tickets: Now they're only returning 1,300 of them... for a game just a little ways up I-35. (http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/football/baylor-athletics-office-breaks-record-for-ut-away-game-sales/article_ccc24622-dc6e-51d0-845c-ed61bfb92bb8.html)

We did the bash, we did the Baylor bash
The Baylor bash, it was an RG3 dash
We did the bash, we pay Art Briles cash
We did the bash, we did the Baylor bash