KU fires Weiss

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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11605447/kansas-jayhawks-fire-charlie-weis-lack-field-progress

What a shock!

The Whataburgers in Lawrence are in mourning.

[delhalew]

Texas is so bad, losing to them can get you fired. :)

[olevetonahill]

Bet they wish they still had the Other fat man.

[Eielson]

Curse of Mangino continues!

[BoulderSooner79]

Are there any giant coaches out there available to replace Weiss?

[tycat947]

Are there any giant coaches out there available to replace Weiss?

Ralph Freidgen???

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zGTe5MsCVYc/TRJN9drLb3I/AAAAAAAABPw/WUu_rJpE1LA/s400/Ralph%2BFreidgen.jpg

[cherokeebrewer]

Jabba, I've a feeling you're not in Kansa anymore. You're over the hill.

[SoonerMarkVA]

After running Mangino out, they deserve no less than 40 years in the desert.

[ouwasp]

I really think John Blake needs another chance somewhere.

[Flagstaffsooner]

After running Mangino out, they deserve no less than 40 years in the desert.

Yes, they really f-ed up when thy fired Mangino. They should crawl back on their knees to him. And good Lord, why would you hire notre damn feces anyway?

[Eielson]

Yes, they really f-ed up when thy fired Mangino. They should crawl back on their knees to him.

It's the only way to reverse the curse.

[Flagstaffsooner]

In Manhatten they are counting down the days to basketball season.

[okiewaker]

All I know is, Mangino did this:

Big 12 Coach of the Year (2007)[13]
Walter Camp Coach of the Year (2007)[14]
AP National Coach of the Year (2007)[15]
Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year (2007)[16]
The Home Depot Coach of the Year Award (2007)[17]
Sporting News College Football Coach of the Year (2007)[18]
Woody Hayes Trophy (2007)[19]
George Munger Award (2007)[20]
AFCA Coach of the Year (2007)[21]
Paul "Bear" Bryant Award (2007)[19]
Orange Bowl win over VT (2007)

Then,,,he was gone.

[swardboy]

What would the state of Kansas know about rehiring a football coach?

[8timechamps]

I just listened to an interview with Brett McMurphy of ESPN, and he said that Brent Venables is among the coaches being considered.

I have no idea if BV would be a decent head coach, but he is a native of Kansas...although he played and coached at KSU, so that might be too much to overcome.

Thought that was kinda interesting.

[yermom]

how many coaches have gone between OSU, OU and Texas? i can't imagine it would matter that much in Lawrence.

[SoonerorLater]

Only over 350 lb coaches need apply.

[8timechamps]

how many coaches have gone between OSU, OU and Texas? i can't imagine it would matter that much in Lawrence.

If the money is right, it won't matter. I wouldn't mind seeing him there, and I think they need a defensive minded coach who's kind of a hard ***...BV meets that criteria, and his seat has got to be pretty warm at Clemson.

[BoulderSooner79]

In Manhatten they are counting down the days to basketball season.

Why is that? KSU hasn't lost a conference game yet.

[SCSoonerfan]

Hell, Im a fat guy. I can do it if the price is right!! Wonder if they are taking online applications?

[Therealsouthsider]

...really? Venables? Have they seen his sideline demeanor and propensity for vocal outburst? They won't abide kids getting screamed at and base language, this is KU football we're talking about!

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[Soonerjeepman]

...really? Venables? Have they seen his sideline demeanor and propensity for vocal outburst? They won't abide kids getting screamed at and base language, this is KU football we're talking about!

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lol no doubt...that is what (well reportedly) got The Original Fhat Man fired..

[soonergirlNeugene]

The fact that they hired Weiss at all was a pretty clear indicator of the tire fire that KU football has become. Firing Mangino was right up there w/ Tech firing Leach.

[bluedogok]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11605447/kansas-jayhawks-fire-charlie-weis-lack-field-progress

What a shock!

The Whataburgers in Lawrence are in mourning.
No Whataburger locations in Kansas or Missouri, Tulsa are now the closest locations. There used to be a Whataburger commercial awhile back about a guy at KU who would drive to the one in Edmond because it was the closest location to Lawrence.

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No Whataburger locations in Kansas or Missouri, Tulsa are now the closest locations. There used to be a Whataburger commercial awhile back about a guy at KU who would drive to the one in Edmond because it was the closest location to Lawrence.
It was a joke.

[swardboy]

The plans for KU's stadium expansion are pretty impressive. Could this be enough to lure a competent coach there? I don't know.

[badger]

The plans for KU's stadium expansion are pretty impressive. Could this be enough to lure a competent coach there? I don't know.

It's a nice thought, but c'mon KU. You're averaging the lowest paid attendance and actual attendance in the Big 12, which is down from last season. You're averaging less than 50,000 per game and you're gonna expand the empty seating why???

KU: We're going to start hosting basketball games in the football stadium and football games in the basketball arena!

OK, now that makes sense.

[Tear Down This Wall]

If only Mangino hadn't hurt some kids' feelings by yelling at him about what his ghetto back home would do to him later on in life if he kept slacking.

(Sigh) You just can't tell kids anything these days. Can't spank 'em either.

The world is full of soft men. Kansas deserves what it has for hiring coaches who baby players. You baby players and you get 6-22, with half the wins coming versus FCS schools.

[badger]

There were some politics at play in the Mangino firing. He wasn't hired by the then-athletic director. He was abrasive and didn't kiss arse (a la Mack Brown) and it wasn't likely that Mangino would ever have another 7-game losing streak at KU again if they kept him. They had a narrow window of opportunity to act and they did. Losing record? Check. 5-0 ranked season fizzling to 5-7 non-bowl season? Check. Accusations that you can pretend to take seriously so that the blame for firing the most successful (and he had a winning record overall) coach in recent KU history can fall on the coach instead of you? CHECKITY CHECK CHECK CHECK!

If there is any benefit to this, there's meltdown posts to steal (I loved "Jesus Crist" comments a few years ago, and "Coach front butt" is a close second) and they're going to beat us in basketball, so why not embarrass them in football a few months before?*

* First half of last year's game not withstanding

[Jason White's Third Knee]

Curse of Mangino continues!


Mangino gave them the stink eye on the way out. They is cursed.
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[Eielson]

There were some politics at play in the Mangino firing. He wasn't hired by the then-athletic director. He was abrasive and didn't kiss arse (a la Mack Brown) and it wasn't likely that Mangino would ever have another 7-game losing streak at KU again if they kept him. They had a narrow window of opportunity to act and they did. Losing record? Check. 5-0 ranked season fizzling to 5-7 non-bowl season? Check. Accusations that you can pretend to take seriously so that the blame for firing the most successful (and he had a winning record overall) coach in recent KU history can fall on the coach instead of you? CHECKITY CHECK CHECK CHECK!

If there is any benefit to this, there's meltdown posts to steal (I loved "Jesus Crist" comments a few years ago, and "Coach front butt" is a close second) and they're going to beat us in basketball, so why not embarrass them in football a few months before?*

* First half of last year's game not withstanding

I suspect KU would love to bring in a coach who could win 5 games at this point. That's about 2.5 seasons worth at this rate.

[soonergirlNeugene]

Gundy to Michigan, Hoke to Kansas, Spavital to OSU

[badger]

Kansas tends to be the wrong side of a hot coaching name... Turner Gill was once such a hot coaching commodity that Charles Barkley publicly thrashed his alma mater Auburn for not hiring him. Charlie Weis didn't get a 10 year Notre Dame contract for nothing (because it's not like you can win conference titles at Domer, lol).

As such, have fun speculating what (once?) hot coaching commodity Kansas will run through the mud and make completely unhireable once they are finished with him...

Nominees:
- Mack Brown
- Gene Chizik
- Jim Tressel
- Bobby Petrino
- Houston Nutt
- Rick Nueheisel
- Tyrone Willingham
- Ron Zook
- Bill Callahan
- Jim Leavitt

[BoulderSooner79]

KU should hire a coach from a lower division school who is thrilled at the prospect of getting a job at a P5 conference school no matter which one. Then they wouldn't have to offer a huge buyout in the contract and end up paying 3 coaches to not coach them anymore.

[Tear Down This Wall]

KU should hire a coach from a lower division school who is thrilled at the prospect of getting a job at a P5 conference school no matter which one. Then they wouldn't have to offer a huge buyout in the contract and end up paying 3 coaches to not coach them anymore.

They already went that route with nose-picking Terry Allen: http://www.missouristatebears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/terry_allen_761057.html

[badger]

Who's the guy at NDSU? He apparently can beat lower tier Big 12 teams nyuck nyuck nyuck ESPN talking heads nyuck

[Soonerjeepman]

sports radio here in KC...of course some caller who's brother is a Dr..big donor, said Venables and the guy from Wyoming, was at NDSU last year.. are the 2 main targets.

[badger]

sports radio here in KC...of course some caller who's brother is a Dr..big donor, said Venables and the guy from Wyoming, was at NDSU last year.. are the 2 main targets.

It's really now or never for Brent V to finally find a head coaching job. If he doesn't want to be career coordinator, then he has to take the first offer he receives.

How often do programs hire older coaches with no head coaching experience? Not often. He's about the right age and has that fire and passion on the sideline (KU snobs: "Verbal abuse... aggressive behavior...") that might be enough to get Jayhawks excited about football again. That and winning. Winning makes fanbases excited.

[swardboy]

Winning does that? Hmmmmm.

[badger]

Winning does that? Hmmmmm.

It is something that does not go without saying around here, since OU always wins so we are always happy; whereas KU never wins so they throw their goal post in a nearby lake after beating West Virginia while chanting "We want Bama" (http://rockchalkblog.com/2013/11/16/ku-fans-tear-down-goal-posts-following-west-virginia-victory/)

[8timechamps]

It's really now or never for Brent V to finally find a head coaching job. If he doesn't want to be career coordinator, then he has to take the first offer he receives.

How often do programs hire older coaches with no head coaching experience? Not often. He's about the right age and has that fire and passion on the sideline (KU snobs: "Verbal abuse... aggressive behavior...") that might be enough to get Jayhawks excited about football again. That and winning. Winning makes fanbases excited.

That's part of the reason I think he could be a legitimate contender. The other part is that he's very possibly gone from Clemson after this season.

I've always thought BV's schemes were much better suited for the NFL. He understands defense, but I'm not so sure he knows how to communicate his scheme at the college level effectively enough. I think his convoluted schemes (that seem to be all or nothing) would just translate better with full time players.

[ouduckhunter]

Hire Venables!

I will never forget how great he was after the OU - Washington game a few years back. We hung around after the game until the team, coaches, etc came out from the locker room to get loaded on the buses. The team looked really happy, and waved at all the fans as we cheered when they came out of the locker room. BV was the only coach who waved at, and acknowledged fans. He looked so high energy, and seemed genuinely excited to see us. He was great!

Hire Venables!

[Soonerfan88]

I agree with 8X, always thought Venables would make a much better NFL coach. There just isn't enough time allowed by the NCAA to properly teach his schemes in college.

Being a KSU grad and former coach, would he take the KU job?

[manateepower]

I agree with 8X, always thought Venables would make a much better NFL coach. There just isn't enough time allowed by the NCAA to properly teach his schemes in college.

Being a KSU grad and former coach, would he take the KU job?

I have heard some small rumblings (granted, not solid at all), that Snyder might be coaching his last year at KSU, if that is the case, V could very well be the next guy.

[bluedogok]

Who's the guy at NDSU? He apparently can beat lower tier Big 12 teams nyuck nyuck nyuck ESPN talking heads nyuck
They have a first year coach, the one who led them to the championships (former Husker Craig Bohl) went to Wyoming during the off season.