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beached_sooner
9/14/2014, 08:38 AM
I was away from the tube when Ford left the game. Any info on the injury and potential severity?

EatLeadCommie
9/14/2014, 10:31 AM
another board is saying his sister posted that it was a fractured fibula on Facebook and that he may be back for TCU. However, the words fractured and fibula don't belong in the same sentence as he'll be back for TCU. I guess we'll find out later today.

SoonerMarkVA
9/14/2014, 10:36 AM
:nightmare: Unreal.

Looks like Ross is going to have to step up his game.

JLMSOONER
9/14/2014, 10:59 AM
Any word on Woods? I missed the play where UT was called for tripping. Looked like he was hurting pretty good. Was the trip intentional?

FirstandGoal
9/14/2014, 01:14 PM
another board is saying his sister posted that it was a fractured fibula on Facebook and that he may be back for TCU. However, the words fractured and fibula don't belong in the same sentence as he'll be back for TCU. I guess we'll find out later today.

Actually the fibula is pretty small and its very possible that he could come back within 3 weeks.

BoulderSooner79
9/14/2014, 01:33 PM
Need to have Brooks ready to go, no guarantee other guys don't get dinged during the next game.

EatLeadCommie
9/14/2014, 03:15 PM
Time to unsuspend Mixon!

soonergirlNeugene
9/14/2014, 05:40 PM
Time to unsuspend Mixon!

Hey, if it can be done for Penn State when they're needed, why not?

dennis580
9/14/2014, 06:12 PM
:nightmare: Unreal.

Looks like Ross is going to have to step up his game.

No Perine needs more carries. The Ford injury could be actually be good for us. I actually hope Perine becomes our featured back would love to see him get 25 carries a game, and wear defenses down

cherokeebrewer
9/14/2014, 06:16 PM
The Ford injury could be actually be good for us.

No

soonergirlNeugene
9/14/2014, 07:20 PM
I'm a little concerned about Perine's ball security.

SoonerMarkVA
9/14/2014, 07:29 PM
No Perine needs more carries. The Ford injury could be actually be good for us. I actually hope Perine becomes our featured back would love to see him get 25 carries a game, and wear defenses down

No

Absolutely No.

I will say I agree Perine could use more carries, but no way is any one back going to be able to carry the load. But Ford is our best back, so in no Universe is his injury "good for us". Ross hasn't shown (yet) any ability to get through traffic and those first tackles. Ross will have to step up so he and Perine can share the load about equally. Otherwise, we'll need to bring in some of those other guys and let them spell Perine (who, BTW, looked exceptionally tough against UT).

BoulderSooner79
9/14/2014, 07:56 PM
Absolutely No.

I will say I agree Perine could use more carries, but no way is any one back going to be able to carry the load. But Ford is our best back, so in no Universe is his injury "good for us". Ross hasn't shown (yet) any ability to get through traffic and those first tackles. Ross will have to step up so he and Perine can share the load about equally. Otherwise, we'll need to bring in some of those other guys and let them spell Perine (who, BTW, looked exceptionally tough against UT).

^This. Always need plenty of backs that can be effective and trusted. I wasn't comfortable with just 3 and hoped that Brooks might get a couple of carries late yesterday once Ford was out. On the Perine non-fumble (that sure looked like a fumble to me), he got his hand banged up. Only kept him out for a few plays, but this kind of thing happens to RBs all the time. Also having different styles of runners can open up a game as well.

dennis580
9/14/2014, 08:24 PM
Absolutely No.

I will say I agree Perine could use more carries, but no way is any one back going to be able to carry the load

I strongly disagree with this. I certainly think Perine could carry the load. He is a workhorse type back. He is a guy who would be great with 25 carries a game.

hornswaggled
9/14/2014, 08:32 PM
Ford's injury is not good for anyone. Disagree that Perine fumbled. Refs didn't see a fumble, review officials didn't see a fumble. I didn't see a fumble. I saw the ball firmly placed between his massive upper arm and body until after Perine's forward progress was stopped and his knee was down. The only controversy in the controversial non-fumble was created by the tv announcers.

BoulderSooner79
9/14/2014, 08:59 PM
I wasn't listening to any TV announcers. In other similar situations I've seen, if the player has the ball pinned like that, it was not counted as being in his control. Obviously, I'm happy with the way it was ruled, but I've seen it go the other way. I don't know the exact rule, so maybe other refs got it wrong and this one was right. But I was going by history I've seen and not what my crimson shades wanted. That was a critical play because Ford scored his rushing TD on that drive.

hornswaggled
9/14/2014, 09:57 PM
I definitely had on my crimson shades. However, if the player's forward progress is stopped and his knee is on the ground before he loses possesion, the ruling has historically been called for the runner

BoulderSooner79
9/14/2014, 10:10 PM
I definitely had on my crimson shades. However, if the player's forward progress is stopped and his knee is on the ground before he loses possesion, the ruling has historically been called for the runner

If the knee is on the ground, of course. But I didn't see it touch the ground before the ball became pinned. It looked like the initial hit jarred it from his grasp into the pinned position and he never regained it. If the knee went down after that, it wouldn't matter because he is no longer the ball carrier. Forward progress was not an issue, because that is not reviewable, and they did review it. So I can only imagine they ruled it inconclusive on the knee being down first or there was another angle.

SoonerForLife92
9/14/2014, 10:14 PM
I definitely had on my crimson shades. However, if the player's forward progress is stopped and his knee is on the ground before he loses possesion, the ruling has historically been called for the runner

But his knee wasn't on the ground. However I agree with the forward progress if the refs blew the whistle

BoulderSooner79
9/14/2014, 10:17 PM
But his knee wasn't on the ground. However I agree with the forward progress if the refs blew the whistle

If they ruled on forward progress, there would have been no review.

hornswaggled
9/14/2014, 10:19 PM
Well, he still had possession when he had the ball pinned, before his knee touched. It was pinned against his body, and the UT player had to use force to pull it away from him after he was down.

BoulderSooner79
9/14/2014, 10:33 PM
Well, he still had possession when he had the ball pinned, before his knee touched. It was pinned against his body, and the UT player had to use force to pull it away from him after he was down.

And maybe that's what they ruled - I've seen identical plays where it was ruled the other way. They treated a pinned ball as if it were laying on the ground meaning there is no whistle until it is recovered or goes out of bounds. I know this may come as a shock, but there have been bad calls that have actually gone OUr way. Reading OU boards, I think about 1000 goes against us for every 1 that goes for us, but it has happened!

freshchris05
9/14/2014, 11:06 PM
To any and all who thought that was a fumble;

I'll give you a dollar if you could take that ball from Samaje's bicep.








Thought so.

hornswaggled
9/14/2014, 11:10 PM
Yes, we get 99.9% calls against us, but the refs made the right call this time.:O

BoulderSooner79
9/14/2014, 11:23 PM
To any and all who thought that was a fumble;

I'll give you a dollar if you could take that ball from Samaje's bicep.








Thought so.

I'd take a clear explanation by an expert referee over bravado, thank-you.

BoulderSooner79
9/14/2014, 11:24 PM
Yes, we get 99.9% calls against us, but the refs made the right call this time.:O

That at least makes sense, given the odds.

:drunk:

freshchris05
9/14/2014, 11:51 PM
I'd take a clear explanation by an expert referee over bravado, thank-you.

No King Arthur here..

swardboy
9/15/2014, 06:21 AM
My two cents worth is that Perine's forward motion had been stopped before the ball was extricated from his possession....knee wasn't relevant.

dwarthog
9/15/2014, 07:38 AM
So, I'm guessing there is still no update on the threads subject?

I heard something in the recap show, short inquiry from Blevins, asking about Ford's ankle injury update? Nothing from Stoops though, said he didn't have any details.

KantoSooner
9/15/2014, 08:33 AM
His leg has been amputated at the shoulder. He'll start on Saturday. It's a day-to-day decision. - Bob

dwarthog
9/15/2014, 08:59 AM
Phew, glad to see it was a mere flesh wound!

dennis580
9/15/2014, 09:50 AM
My two cents worth is that Perine's forward motion had been stopped before the ball was extricated from his possession....knee wasn't relevant.

This statement is 100% correct.

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
9/15/2014, 10:16 AM
Any word on Woods? I missed the play where UT was called for tripping. Looked like he was hurting pretty good. Was the trip intentional?

Woods didn't get tripped, that was someone else. Woods got hit by the ball carrier's helmet on the knee and had to retire from adventuring.

BlownGP
9/15/2014, 11:08 AM
Ford out for WV

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11531207/oklahoma-sooners-lose-top-rusher-keith-ford-2-3-weeks?ex_cid=espnapi_public

Sucks, but I think we will be ok....

SoonerPride
9/15/2014, 11:09 AM
Next three weeks.

non weight bearing bone in ankle.

dwarthog
9/15/2014, 11:18 AM
Damn. Thanks for the update.

cherokeebrewer
9/15/2014, 11:33 AM
Ross and Tonka will step up...throw in a bit of Daniel Brooks and we're good to go!

SoonerMarkVA
9/15/2014, 11:44 AM
Ross and Tonka will step up...throw in a bit of Daniel Brooks and we're good to go!

Perine will do great. It's Ross I'm worried about. I love him when he gets out in space, but he is too easy to stop in traffic.

I just hope Ford's back soon and at full speed.

FaninAma
9/15/2014, 12:14 PM
Rocky Calmus played with a fractured fibula the week after he broke it. I wouldn't recommend doing that and it depends on the severity of the fracture.

cherokeebrewer
9/15/2014, 12:53 PM
It's Ross I'm worried about. I love him when he gets out in space

Agreed, so let's get him out in space. Pass that on to JH please...

Dallas
9/20/2014, 11:41 PM
No Perine needs more carries. The Ford injury could be actually be good for us. I actually hope Perine becomes our featured back would love to see him get 25 carries a game, and wear defenses down

Do you have a crystal ball in your living room?

http://home.gci.net/~t.johnson/images/bravo.gif

BlownGP
9/20/2014, 11:55 PM
Yup, I remember reading this.

I still like Ford, so it's nice to know we have TWO very good backs.

Ross aint so bad either. He's FAST

BoulderSooner79
9/21/2014, 12:06 AM
Yup, I remember reading this.

I still like Ford, so it's nice to know we have TWO very good backs.

Ross aint so bad either. He's FAST

Ross had a nice game on his limited carries. Started slow in the first half, but showed a little patience in the 2nd and ended up with 56 yards rushing and 19 on receptions. Of course, the KO return was huge.

SoonerMarkVA
9/21/2014, 07:41 PM
No Perine needs more carries. The Ford injury could be actually be good for us. I actually hope Perine becomes our featured back would love to see him get 25 carries a game, and wear defenses down

You called it. Perine was an absolute monster!

And when we get Ford back, instead of "thunder and lightning", it's going to be "thunder (Ford) and even bigger-*** thunder! (Perine)".

Ross I believe will move to situational, things that get him out in space, where if he gets a crease he's shown how deadly he can be. But Ford and Perine will be the 1-2 punch from now on.

SCOUT
9/21/2014, 07:44 PM
Thunder and Earthquake?

CatfishSooner
9/21/2014, 07:48 PM
Thunder and Earthquake?

I like that!