Poke QB could be out for season

[deweydw]

Oklahoma State could be without its starting quarterback for a significant period of time.

Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/reports--oklahoma-state-qb-j-w--walsh-could-miss-the-season-after-undergoing-foot-surgery-193355193.html)

[olevetonahill]

Aw Poor Ewes, What happened to that Chelf feller? Oh well sucks to be an OsEwe fan . Huh CowboyMRW LOL

Glad we got our Bet down after your FSU game
Like taking Candy from a Baby.:drunk::highly_amused:

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Who the hell names their kid Daxx, some Star Trek Deep Space 9 fan?

[badger]

In case you haven't figured it out in the 10 or so years Mike Gundy has been OSU's coach... he has no starting quarterback. He has several, therefore, he has none.

Donovan Woods? Let's move him to safety.
Bobby Reid? Come after me, I'm a man, I'm 40.
Brandon Weeden? Third string old man Yankee draft pick... you all know his story already.
Wes Lunt? Now he's Illinois' starter.

[cherokeebrewer]

Of course, the poke fans say Daxx is better anyway. So there's that...

[soonergirlNeugene]

Their backup is just as good. I don't see this affecting their season.

[Eielson]

Of course, the poke fans say Daxx is better anyway. So there's that...

Honestly, I think they're right this time.

[Soonerfan88]

I truly believe M. Gundy is subconsciously sabotaging his QBs because he doesn't want anyone breaking his records.

[badger]

So you know how the previous starting Poke QB was declared out for the season back in September?

Well, there's a sequel.

Link (http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage2/osu-sports-sources-say-daxx-garman-has-health-issue-mason/article_8939da70-ff53-5a22-9a9c-907b344e9e4d.html)

For those of you outside Pokedom's extended reach area, aka Tulsa, here's a Cliff's notes version of OSU football this year:

1- FSU is not as good as everyone thought; OSU playing them close no longer has meaning
2- OSU needs to beat either Baylor or OU (aka "Gooner") to become bowl-eligible for an eighth-straight season
3- Mike Gundy to Florida rumors linger

And in relation to all of those, Gundy has almost stubbornly clung to stud freshman quarterback Mason Rudolph's redshirt, even as backup-turned-starter Daxx Garman has been sacked 26 times in seven conference games.

Now, OSU's quarterback Daxx reportedly allegedly probably has a concussion and hasn't been able to practice all week. Ouch.

So, do you yank a redshirt for the two (potentially three, if they beat Baylor or Gooner) remaining games this season, or go with a walk-on that also hasn't really played this year.

Saturday looms... tune in, it will probably be a bloodbath considering how Baylor embarrassed us a few weeks ago :stunned:

PS: This also happened last weekend (http://www.ocolly.com/news/article_5f7c8f1a-6f84-11e4-a6f2-eb872cbf8db1.html). Poor pokes.

[deweydw]

Rocco needs to walk on at QB. Sounds like he can fire up the team. :boxing:

[badger]

I don't have any insider knowledge, but everything that I've heard reported suggests that Mike Gundy's looking to coach elsewhere next season. So much for OSU being his "New York Yankees job." It probably would have been if it weren't for Pokes like Boone Pickens thinking they are on a different level just because they won the Big 12 once and won a Fiesta Bowl once recently.

I really don't know who'd they get to coach if Gundy leaves. Their current lead coordinators infuriate the fans even more than losing, if you judge them based on Internet Pokes :stunned:

[KantoSooner]

Petrino

And I'm only half joking.

[Breadburner]

Gundy got lucky with Weeden and Blackmon....Which credit goes to Holgerson for getting them off the bench......They should go after Larry Coker.....

[CowboyMRW]

Gundy's not leaving.

No point in burning Mason's RS at this time. Just take the *** rapings and prepare for next year. We've known Daxx sucks since the summer, can't believe I watched him QB us this season.

[badger]

Gundy's not leaving.

Because Gundy sucks and OSU success has been in spite of him not because of him.*

*Grantland said this (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/mike-gundy-oklahoma-state-football/), not me! Be angry at Grantland!**

**Or be angry at me and everyone who agrees that everything written is incredibly plausible and probably true

[8timechamps]

I can't blame Gundy for not wanting to burn Rudolph's redshirt. It's no different that Stoops not wanting to burn Hansen's redshirt with two games left in the season. I'm sure if he has to, he will (Gundy that is), but it's not his first choice.

I think the season may have gone differently for the Pokes if Chelf stayed healthy, but I'm not sure it would have been tremendously better. The Gundy to Florida rumor is picking up a lot of steam, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

[badger]

if Chelf stayed healthy

I know it's hard to keep them all straight since Gundy can't make up his damn mind with QBs, but for future reference on the tri-fecta of starters post-Weeden:

Wes Lunt: Transferred to Illinois
Clint Chelf: Ended eligiblity last season
J.W. Walsh: The starter from this season that went down with injury

And now...a new trifecta:

Daxx Garman: The transfer from Arizona that replaced Walsh
Mason Rudolph: The freshman whos redshirt might get burned against Baylor/us
Nameless walk-on: The third QB guy whom I don't know that has very little chance of playing

[Eielson]

Honestly, I think they're right this time.

LOLOL@ME

[8timechamps]

I know it's hard to keep them all straight since Gundy can't make up his damn mind with QBs, but for future reference on the tri-fecta of starters post-Weeden:

Wes Lunt: Transferred to Illinois
Clint Chelf: Ended eligiblity last season
J.W. Walsh: The starter from this season that went down with injury

And now...a new trifecta:

Daxx Garman: The transfer from Arizona that replaced Walsh
Mason Rudolph: The freshman whos redshirt might get burned against Baylor/us
Nameless walk-on: The third QB guy whom I don't know that has very little chance of playing

Damn, Walsh is what I meant. I really can't keep them all straight because Gundy apparently can't either.

[badger]

Hello everyone, and welcome to the most recent edition of "Know your Poke" brought to you by the Stillwater-East resident, aka Tulsa resident, badger.

As previously discussed, there is a quarterback quandry in good ol' Stilly. Gundy is pretending that there's equal snaps and equal chances of either Daxx (who replaced injured J.W. Walsh earlier this year) or Mason (who replaced injured Daxx against Baylor), but you don't yank a redshirt off a true freshman for just one game (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportshomepage1/john-e-hoover-gundy-can-t-hide-the-obvious-it/article_b8bc1241-fa64-5c52-8296-763273ee5941.html). Mason is starting, just like our RS freshman Cody Thomas is.

But, who gives a crap about that. Let's talk Mike Gundy, who was incredibly testy during the press conference yesterday (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/osu/osuhomepage1/mike-gundy-remains-tight-lipped-in-testy-news-conference-previewing/article_ccf343cc-c214-56c5-9cc8-a24e30fdabaf.html).


“I would never talk about personnel decisions that we make publicly,” Gundy said in response to a question about the idea of pulling the redshirt of Mason Rudolph for just one game if, in fact, Daxx Garman starts on Saturday.

“I’m not going to discuss who gives us the best chance to win and/or why,” Gundy said, when asked if Rudolph gives the Cowboys a “puncher’s chance” against the Sooners.

And that was just the beginning. Gundy’s hesitancy stole the show all afternoon.

As the questions wore on, Gundy’s list of unapproachable topics grew:

Memories from his first OU-OSU as a player: “I honestly don’t remember.”

Who took the lead on Rudolph’s recruitment: “We’ll never talk about recruiting process, personnel decisions or injuries.”

On the multiple reports that cornerbacks coach Van Malone is set to become defensive coordinator at SMU: “I would never talk about personnel decisions with a coach or a player during the season.”

The backstory is that Gundy is apparently under a lot of stress right now (http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/osu-sports-if-stress-could-be-measured-gundy-might-bury/article_3d8907bf-bcd9-51b4-9e56-972aa4a5654f.html). While the rest of the country dances around the fact that Gundy is living the dream at his alma mater and surely he would never entertain offers from big name jobs for any reason other than to get a pay raise from OSU... locals know otherwise. Gundy needs a break (http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/sports/johnklein/john-klein-urban-meyer-needed-a-break-does-mike-gundy/article_f1afb83c-3817-5d7d-8960-cf729dfe0efa.html).

It's not just that stupid Boone Pickens soundbyte from a few weeks ago where Pickens said "I’m certainly supportive of Oklahoma State University I’m always going to be for OSU. I don’t care who coaches ‘em." (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/mike-gundy-responds-to-boone-pickens-comments/article_ce744440-27fc-58db-a7c8-f8af18e2b98d.html)

It's also athletic department support. Gundy has said that he wants to have a softer non-conference schedule and OSU AD Mike Holder goes and schedules the defending national champs on opening week at Jerryworld. The year before that it was Mississippi State. Before that it was a home and home with Georgia. Certainly they've mixed in the Savannah States and Missouri States and UTSAs, but clearly, they are not on the same page on some things.

So anyways... look for this weekend to be not just a battle on whether OSU becomes bowl eligible, but rather, on what direction OSU and Gundy take. If there's an awesome, flawless gameplan that results in a repeat of 2001, Gundy and OSU are happily married till death do them part. If it's a repeat of 2003, like Les Miles, Gundy is gone.

[Pride1Mom]

Rudolph looked pretty good, but I doubt he will be ready for this game.

[olevetonahill]

Petrino

And I'm only half joking.

Almost skeery!

[badger]

If you want the Cliff's Notes version of my Gundy post earlier --- His presser suggests doesn't he want to be where he is. Saturday will be very telling about his future at OSU.

Amazing what a difference a year makes. Last year's Poke game was for a share of the Big 12 and a BCS bowl berth for Aggy. This year's is for just a bowl berth and a non-losing season.