Priorities

[FaninAma]

From a person who was at the funeral for Major General Greene who was assassinated in Afghanistan:.


U.S. Army Major General Harold Greene was buried today at Arlington
National Cemetery with full military honors, including a caisson, two escort
platoons, casket team, firing party, colors team, and a caparisoned horse.
The U.S. Army band, “Pershing’s Own,” played softly as the funeral procession
made its way down the long hill past the rows of simple white gravestones to
bring General Greene to his final resting place.
The graveside service began with a few words, followed by a 13-gun
salute. The major general’s widow, Dr. Susan Myers, was seated in the front
row. To her right was their son 1st Lt. Matthew Greene, his daughter Amelia
Greene, followed by Major General Greene’s father, also Harold Greene.

After three rifle volleys and the playing of “Taps,” the American flag,
once placed on the major general’s casket, was carefully folded as the band
played “America the Beautiful.” U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen.
Ray Odierno presented the flag to his widow, and additional flags to his children and
father.

General Greene, 55, became the highest-ranking fatality in the war in Afghanistan
after an Afghan military police officer opened fire on Aug. 5th, 2014.

Some People were missing: No President; No Vice President; No Secretary
of State; No Secretary of Defense. It WAS confirmed, however, that
President Obama was playing golf at the time of the funeral.

Nothing else needs to be said.

[Soonerjeepman]

would expect nothing less....

he did take time off vaca to discuss the $hit show in St. Louis...

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

the ridiculousness of this administration never ceases to amaze

[hawaii 5-0]

"Presidents never take vacations. They just have a change of scenery." ------- Nancy Reagan

(When asked about Ronnie's frequent trips to his ranch in California)


5-0

[FaninAma]

"Presidents never take vacations. They just have a change of scenery." ------- Nancy Reagan

(When asked about Ronnie's frequent trips to his ranch in California)


5-0

Sorry, I didn't know Reagan was expected at the funeral. No biggie. I am sure the POTUS, the vice-POTUS, the Secretaries of Defense/State all had more pressing matters than attending the funeral of the highest ranking officer killed in a war zone since the Vietnam war.

[FaninAma]

I will correct the original article and blog. Chuck Hagel did attend although he never spoke or acted in an official capacity to recognize the General. He met briefly with the family before rushing off to other appointments.

[Sooner8th]

From a person who was at the funeral for Major General Greene who was assassinated in Afghanistan:.



Nothing else needs to be said.

Yes there is and it is this.

There is nothing you dumbasses won't buy into hook line and sinker from the rightwingnut media. Go grab your pitchforks and torches. LEMMINGS

Twitter, Obama and the Gen. Harold Greene funeral hoax

Just to summarize the facts in this convoluted affair: Hagel did attend the Greene funeral. Obama and Biden did not. Nixon did not attend the Dillard funeral, and Bush did not attend the Maude funeral. There is no “tradition” of presidential attendance at generals’ funerals that Obama “bucked.” The Hagel misinformation (passed on erroneously by me) came from Drachenberg’s tweet, amplified in the Legal Insurrection post. The Nixon and Bush misinformation was a deliberate falsehood spread by Davis.

There are several lessons to be drawn from the affair. The first, and most important, is to be skeptical about everything one sees on the Internet and make a good-faith effort to ensure that information one passes on is accurate. I will certainly redouble my efforts on that score in the future. The second lesson is that when one makes a mistake, correct it as quickly as possible, more than once if necessary. And the final lesson, narrower but still important, is: Never trust a word Morris Davis says; it might be “sarcasm.”



Davis' tweet referred to Maj. Gen. John A.B. Dillard — that last U.S. general killed in combat — who died when his helicopter was shot down in Vietnam on May 12, 1970. Davis' tweet also referred to Lt. Gen. Timothy Maude, who was killed in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the Pentagon. According to Davis, the Dillard funeral was attended by then-President Richard Nixon, and the Maude funeral was attended by then-President George W. Bush. Obama, Davis said, broke that tradition by skipping General Greene's funeral.

As it turned out, both Drachenberg's tweet and Davis' tweet were wrong. Drachenberg's had an error which he later corrected. Davis' was an intentional falsehood, about which he later boasted. Both ended up ricocheting around the Internet.

I played a role in that. On Saturday morning, I tweeted, without comment, a link to the original Legal Insurrection article. A short time later, I added the following:

I was wrong. It turns out Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel did, in fact, attend the Greene funeral, a fact I should have known. Before sending out the tweet, I made a couple of perfunctory checks to see whether Hagel had attended, didn't see him in the news coverage I read and passed on the information without further checking. If I had looked into it just a bit more, I would have seen, for example, a Stars & Stripes article that specifically mentioned Hagel's presence. Once I saw that, I sent out two tweets correcting the mistake. (As for Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, it was true that neither had attended.)

The Davis tweet was another matter altogether. I did not pass it on, but it was included in the Legal Insurrection post to which I had linked. Davis stated definitively that Nixon had attended the Dillard funeral in 1970 and Bush had attended the Maude funeral in 2001, a "tradition" of presidential attendance that Obama "bucked" by ignoring the Greene funeral. As it turned out, none of that was true, and Davis, a retired U.S. Air Force colonel who played an important role in the War on Terror and who today teaches law at Howard University, knew it when he wrote it.

[Turd_Ferguson]

You're a ****'n idiot lemming.

[Sooner8th]

You're a ****'n idiot lemming.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA I'm a lemming? They guy who started this admits to lying about the whole thing and your dumbasses bought it hook, line and sinker. Obama is breaking a tradition that does not exist. GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!!! You are a fool and a rube, just showing how incredibly stupid you are.

You and yours will buy anything ANY right wingnut website produces.

Inbred, dumbass ignorant LEMMING. IT is people like you who are ruining America. Stop voting and procreating.

[Curly Bill]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA I'm a lemming? They guy who started this admits to lying about the whole thing and your dumbasses bought it hook, line and sinker. Obama is breaking a tradition that does not exist. GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!!! You are a fool and a rube, just showing how incredibly stupid you are.

You and yours will buy anything ANY right wingnut website produces.

Inbred, dumbass ignorant LEMMING. IT is people like you who are ruining America. Stop voting and procreating.

RAWR!!!!

[Sooner8th]

RAWR!!!!

This is the poster child of ignorant rightwingnut lies. You dumbasses bought into this hook line and sinker. NONE of you looked into it, you just ran with it. The guy who posted it ADMITS to lying about it. Totally and completely BUSTED. FaninAma, Soonerjeepman, BetterSoonerThanLater all embarrass yourselves with buying into rightwingnut LIES.

DUMBASS, INBRED, HILLYBILLY, IGNORANT CONSERVATIVES.

TOO GODDAMN FUNNY - ME LAUGHING MY *** OFF AT YOU!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Curly Bill]

This is the poster child of ignorant rightwingnut lies. You dumbasses bought into this hook line and sinker. NONE of you looked into it, you just ran with it. The guy who posted it ADMITS to lying about it. Totally and completely BUSTED. FaninAma, Soonerjeepman, BetterSoonerThanLater all embarrass yourselves with buying into rightwingnut LIES.

DUMBASS, INBRED, HILLYBILLY, IGNORANT CONSERVATIVES.

TOO GODDAMN FUNNY - ME LAUGHING MY *** OFF AT YOU!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

RAWR!!!! Rightwingers, teabaggers, hillbillies, RAWR, RAWR, RAWR!!!!

[Sooner8th]

RAWR!!!! Rightwingers, teabaggers, hillbillies, RAWR, RAWR, RAWR!!!!

RAWR, PITCHFORKS, TORCHES, SOCIALIST, HATES AMERICA, WANTS TO OVER THROW THE GOVERNMENT, DENIES AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM, TAKES TOO MANY VACATIONS, ECONOMY WORSE THAN WHEN HE TOOK OVER, RAWR RAWR, RAWR!!!!!!!

DUMBASS HILLBILLY.

[Curly Bill]

RAWR, PITCHFORKS, TORCHES, SOCIALIST, HATES AMERICA, WANTS TO OVER THROW THE GOVERNMENT, DENIES AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM, TAKES TOO MANY VACATIONS, ECONOMY WORSE THAN WHEN HE TOOK OVER, RAWR RAWR, RAWR!!!!!!!

DUMBASS HILLBILLY.

DUMBASS TROLL

[Sooner8th]

DUMBASS TROLL

HEY CURLY BILL HOW CAN YOU TYPE SO FAST WITH ONLY HAVING ONE HAND ON OL VETS DONG? YOU KNOW HE DEMANDS TWO HANDS! TELL ME AGAIN HOW YOU BOUGHT THIS YOU DUMBASS!

TELL ME AGAIN HOW CUTTIN' TAXES RAISES REVENUES!!!

DUMBASS HILLBILLY.

OBAMA DIDN'T ATTEND THE FUNERAL, wawawawawaWAWAWAWAWAWAWA I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!

[Curly Bill]

RAWR, PITCHFORKS, TORCHES, SOCIALIST, HATES AMERICA, WANTS TO OVER THROW THE GOVERNMENT, DENIES AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM, TAKES TOO MANY VACATIONS, ECONOMY WORSE THAN WHEN HE TOOK OVER, RAWR RAWR, RAWR!!!!!!!

DUMBASS HILLBILLY.


Overthrow should be one word. You being the smartest man on the board should know that.

[Sooner8th]

Overthrow should be one word. You being the smartest man on the board should know that.

That is all you got? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TOO FUNNY!

and even the dumbest person on the board, hint you're in second, should know not to defend out right lies.

[olevetonahill]

Why is KC sayin every one "BOUGHT" into this. there were only 3 posters before He showed up. I knew it was fake and so did most. But he wants to try and condemn every one. What a Dongsucker he is.

[Curly Bill]

HEY I LOVE OBAMADONG SO MUCH I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN YOU TYPE SO FAST WITH ONLY ONE HAND WHILE I PLEASURE MYSELF TO THOUGHTS OF OBAMA? YOU KNOW HE DEMANDS TWO HANDS! TELL ME AGAIN HOW I'M WRONG FOR LOVING OBAMA SO MUCH!

TELL ME AGAIN HOW HE HAS THOUGHTS ONLY OF ME!!!

DUMBASS, HE LOVES ME, I KNOW HE REALLY AND GENUINELY LOVES ME.

OBAMA WILL BE FOREVER IN MY HEART, wawawawawaWAWAWAWAWAWAWA I WANT SOME OBAMADONG!

You're really passionate about this KC. Good luck to you two lovers.

[Curly Bill]

That is all you got? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TOO FUNNY!

and even the dumbest person on the board, hint you're in second, should know not to defend out right lies.

Outright is only one word also. Seems when you claimed to be the smartest person on the board you might have shot too high!

But you are a funny little troll to make fun of! ;)

[Curly Bill]

Why is KC sayin every one "BOUGHT" into this. there were only 3 posters before He showed up. I knew it was fake and so did most. But he wants to try and condemn every one. What a Dongsucker he is.

It's part of the act. Just play along. LOL

[olevetonahill]

It's part of the act. Just play along. LOL

:highly_amused:

[Curly Bill]

Get this! KC//8th sent me a private message saying he'd been kicked out of his mamma's basement and that's why he's so upset, could we maybe take it easy on him while he consoles himself with thoughts of obamadong.

When I asked, he wouldn't specify if he was talking about Barry or Moochelle! :abnormal:

[Sooner8th]

Why is KC sayin every one "BOUGHT" into this. there were only 3 posters before He showed up. I knew it was fake and so did most. But he wants to try and condemn every one. What a Dongsucker he is.

OH did you? Lying inbred hillbilly. You buy into everything else the right posts.

[Sooner8th]

Look everybody it's an ol vet - curly bill circle jerk!

[Curly Bill]

Look everybody it's an ol vet - curly bill circle jerk!

Now, now, now, you asked us to take it easy on you because of mamma kicking you out, and then you go and lash out.

You're a bad little troll KC, very, very bad!

[Sooner8th]

Faster faster ol vet I'm about there!!

CIRCLE JERK!

[Curly Bill]

CIRCLE JERK!

You're just mad because with mamma kicking you out you have no friends left.

Are you a sad little troll? Over on the sports boards we have some handwringers that would probably take pity on you, maybe take you in, knit you a sweater...

[olevetonahill]

Now, now, now, you asked us to take it easy on you because of mamma kicking you out, and then you go and lash out.

You're a bad little troll KC, very, very bad!

Heh his wife gave me a Pic of him
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtG2uH-5p8_FKsi0MOvc7AF3Or-wi7lpSvbffih2XmzR7J8bPd

[Sooner8th]

I'm just mad because ol vet wouldn't tell me how obama didn't attend the funeral while he jerked me off.

Aren't I a sad little ignorant, inbred, dumbass hillbilly? Over on some rightwingnut websites I can find out what to think and defend them on obamafest2012! If I believe hard enough all the lies I believe will come true!

Really?

[Sooner8th]

Heh his wife gave me a Pic of him
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtG2uH-5p8_FKsi0MOvc7AF3Or-wi7lpSvbffih2XmzR7J8bPd

If you had a wife, you inbred loser, she would share your pic with me!

[Curly Bill]

Heh his wife gave me a Pic of him
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtG2uH-5p8_FKsi0MOvc7AF3Or-wi7lpSvbffih2XmzR7J8bPd

I wonder how his wife tolerates his love of the obamadong? Maybe they get with moochelle and have em one big troll orgy?

[Curly Bill]

I'm REALLY sincere in my love of obamadong! It gives me purpose and validation.

I don't doubt your sincerity in your love of obamadong.

[Sooner8th]

I wonder how ol vet tolerates my love of otherdong? Maybe we get with everyone else on this board and have em one big dumbass, ignorant, inbred orgy? Tell me again ol vet how cuttin' CG taxes rasies revenues, I'm about there.

God, just finish him off ol vet!

[Sooner8th]

I don't doubt my sincerity in my love of otherdong.

Does ol' vet know about them?

[Curly Bill]

Don't tell anyone else, but my fondest wish is to have my lips surgically attached to Barry's obabamdong. Do you think that's weird? And please don't tell anyone else.

No worries KC, I wouldn't tell another soul. But yeah...that's a little weird.

[Curly Bill]

Gotta run KC//8th, but you have some sweet dreams of the obamadong.

...and maybe your mom will relent and take you back in?

[Sooner8th]

No worries sooner8th, I believe anything a conservative tells me then I fight to the death to deny it's not true. But yeah...I'm a dumbass, inbred hillbilly who likes to jerk each other off with ol vet.

I knew it!

[Sooner8th]

Gotta run and blow any rightwingnut dong put in my face.

...and maybe when I'm done ol vet will take me back in?

Just be a good little dumbass.

[Curly Bill]

Just be a good little dumbass.

But I've corrected two of your atrocious grammar mistakes tonight, so if it were true I were a dumbass, that would make you somewhat south of a dumbass would it not?

[Sooner8th]

But I've corrected two of your atrocious grammar mistakes tonight, so if it were true I were a dumbass, that would make you somewhat south of a dumbass would it not?

So, you still buy hook, line and sinker any rightwingnut story that pops up.

Tell me again how obama is a socialist who hates America and wants to destroy it.

[FaninAma]

He's gotta be a troll. He's so predictable he's not even fun to toy with any more. His goal must be to see how many people he can get to put him on ignore.

[Curly Bill]

He's gotta be a troll. He's so predictable he's not even fun to toy with any more. His goal must be to see how many people he can get to put him on ignore.

I bat him around like a cat with a dead mouse when I'm bored, but you're largely right.

[olevetonahill]

He's gotta be a troll. He's so predictable he's not even fun to toy with any more. His goal must be to see how many people he can get to put him on ignore.

Hes KC ima almost willing to bet on it. thinkin about takin his ignerntass OFF Iggy now that things are gettin back to normal LOL

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

8th, since you never responded to my last post for you in the "truce" thread, i'll ask again: Why are you here? While TF, and vet may like ****ing with you, you have gotten to be a real pain in the *** to listen to. It's not going to get any better for you here. At this point, no one is going to take you seriously, and any chance you might have had to salvage your relationship with the posters on this board, is now gone. You do not post on any of the athletic forums, I haven't seen you talk about the "Sooners"--which is of course the namesake of this board, and all you do is look for new ways to argue about **** with which you disagree. People are not going to change their opinions, and with the way that you act, you only push people further away. Why don't you head over to a website/message board where you'll have a better chance of finding like minded people Huffington Post rings a bell. As it stands, any chance you had of having any serious, respectful debate here, is now gone. Frankly, your diatribe is old, and I wish you would go away. For those of us that have been here more than 2 months--or however short your time here has been--are who we are. One of those things being that people like you, reaffirm why some of us feel the way we do about liberal *******s ( granted there are some liberals that are completely fine here). Go away. you are just a self-righteous little prick that finds courage behind his computer monitor, where in real life, you would never talk to someone the way you do on this board because you know you would get your *** beat.

You are one of those typical liberal ingrates that feels he is owed respect without having ever really earned it. Flame away, but deep down you, and everyone else on this board, knows I'm right.

The fact of the matter is, I've dealt with punks like you all my life. You are all the same. Always thinking that your views are the right ones; your ideas the most brilliant, without ever having fought to actually protect the freedoms of which you so blatantly take for granted.

Semper fi ****er

[olevetonahill]

But BSTL , He followed us Home. Ma said we could keep him it its ok with you.

[Sooner8th]

8th, since you never responded to my last post for you in the "truce" thread, i'll ask again: Why are you here? While TF, and vet may like ****ing with you, you have gotten to be a real pain in the *** to listen to. It's not going to get any better for you here. At this point, no one is going to take you seriously, and any chance you might have had to salvage your relationship with the posters on this board, is now gone. You do not post on any of the athletic forums, I haven't seen you talk about the "Sooners"--which is of course the namesake of this board, and all you do is look for new ways to argue about **** with which you disagree. People are not going to change their opinions, and with the way that you act, you only push people further away. Why don't you head over to a website/message board where you'll have a better chance of finding like minded people Huffington Post rings a bell. As it stands, any chance you had of having any serious, respectful debate here, is now gone. Frankly, your diatribe is old, and I wish you would go away. For those of us that have been here more than 2 months--or however short your time here has been--are who we are. One of those things being that people like you, reaffirm why some of us feel the way we do about liberal *******s ( granted there are some liberals that are completely fine here). Go away. you are just a self-righteous little prick that finds courage behind his computer monitor, where in real life, you would never talk to someone the way you do on this board because you know you would get your *** beat.

You are one of those typical liberal ingrates that feels he is owed respect without having ever really earned it. Flame away, but deep down you, and everyone else on this board, knows I'm right.

The fact of the matter is, I've dealt with punks like you all my life. You are all the same. Always thinking that your views are the right ones; your ideas the most brilliant, without ever having fought to actually protect the freedoms of which you so blatantly take for granted.

Semper fi ****er

What am I doing here? Honestly? I am laughing my *** off at the incredible ignorance of conservative posters, like you, who buy into any and all rightwingnut fabrication and lies. I LOVE blowing up the blatant lies and easily refuted premises, latest outrages and alternate universe views of the posters on here.

Lets be real straight and clear on this point - no one on here who is a "conservative" or a republican or one of the "independents", who of course always votes republican, would ever take anything I say seriously. It does not matter how I put anything or talk to them. It does not matter what facts I put up supporting my points, you and yours have adopted the alternate universe view of the world, where anything that faux "news", rush, beck, world daily news or any other rightwingnut crackpot website and gleefully regurgitate it as common knowledge quickly deriding, ridiculing and mocking anyone who does not quickly goose step into ignorant line you jumped into with a second thought.

There is thing out there called the I N T E R N E T, what is has is information that can be looked up and to see what is and what isn't fake. Time after time on here I have blown up the latest outrage, OUTRAGE I tell you about obama or liberals or anyone who does not agree with whatever constantly being redefined conservative party line and you people will argue to the bitter end - see the thread titled Anothe one of Obammy's finest and see where the nutjobs on this site argued with me for at least three pages that I posted something I clearly didn't.

You and those on here confirm every notion any liberal has ever had about conservatives. The threads are laughable, the posts rushing in to circle around and defend the usual total fabrication the thread consists of, makes my side hurt because I am laughing so hard at the circle jerk mentality.

Tell me, ingrate for what? I do not crave respect from a bunch of total lemmings who couldn't figure out something as simple as cuttin' cg taxes does not raise cg revenues.

I too have dealt with loudmouth, cowardly bullies like you all my life. I have been handling bullies like you and yours all of my life. You simply don't like when anyone stands up to you and calls you on your ignorance. Your last sentence is part and parcel of conservative republican orthodoxy, that your rights are somehow superior to my rights or anyone's rights who disagree with you.

I have had this argument with fellow liberals, I live in Kansas the home of nutjobwingnut lemmings who are blowing as loudly and verbosely as they can mocking, sneering and making fun of obama and liberals, but oh no if a liberal ever talks about conservatives or republicans they are shocked and OUTRAGED that anyone would disagree with them.

As for kicking my ***, typical of a bully, bring it on bitch. LIke I said before, I've been dealing with your type all my life and I can ****ing handle it. Grow up, you are not in high school anymore.

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

First if all, you have no idea what my political affiliation is. I simply stated that I am obviously not a liberal. Secondly, I am not bullying you. If that's what you think. Then your vagina is bigger than I thought. As for dealing with loudmouths " like me", let's add up our post counts in the last two months. I'm pretty sure you have been much louder than I. You may be able to copy and paste your liberal drabble, but you sure aren't good at math. If you would take the time to actually read my post, rather than immediately go on the defensive- trying to impress me with you superior intelligence-You'd see that it is you, not I, who has been the instigator from the get go. I am merely pointing out that your shtick is getting old, and you look like a bafoon. It's pathetic. You say you don't care what anyone thinks, yet you constantly try to impress everyone with you endless ranting about how awesome you are. Look, I understand it must be tough on you, having no life, and no real friends. And I'm sorry if the only way you can deal with difficult conversations is to try and make others feel less about themselves. It's ok. You aren't perfect.( don't jump off the cliff. I'm not perfect either. But it's ok)

The funny thing is, you actually proved my point in your latest rant By claiming that you are only here to laugh at others, and point out problems with other peoples views. You get a boost to your ego, I get it. Who's the actual bully now? Furthermore, I never said I was going to kick your ***- although I doubt I'd have any trouble dispatching your bitch *** fairly easily. However. I didn't say it would necessarily be me.

The thing is, all you far lefties are the same. You speak of tolerance and understanding, yet constantly judge those who do not think like you. You are called bleeding hearts, but your heart only bleeds when it fits your agenda. when you get down to brass tax, You are just a selfish bastard- finding issues that are appealing to you, while Trying to make others feel inferior; attempting to look smarter. Lemming? Spread out. You obviously don't like being here in United States because all of us " hillbillies" are just dumb, right? Go to Canada, Europe. Maybe you'll fit in better over there. Frankly, I don't give a ****. Just shut the **** up and quit acting like a little birch all the time. You sound like a teenage college kid that buys in to all his liberal poli sic professors' bull**** And instantly thinks he's the smartest guy in the room because he can quote niche. What you don't realize, is that you are just pawning off all the **** you've been force-fed by theses academics, having no real world experience, or ability to think for yourself. I pity people like you.
You can't think for yourself, and then claim that people like me only believe **** I read on the internet or hear on foxnews. The truth is, your an apologist. You hate what the United States stands for. And you loathe the people that have fought to make it what it is. **** you. Sincerely.

I'll propose this to the board: in the spirit of democracy, let's take a vote. If more people than not agree that you are conducting yourself in a dumbass manner, and are tired of your ****, then your *** gets perma- banned. If not, You can stay here and stroke you holier than thou ego crap all you'd like.

Deal?

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

I guess so. I mean, I do have a full time job, so it's not like I see him all that often. But, since he will living rent free in the basement, and doesn't have a job,is it too much to ask that he helps out around the house?

[Sooner8th]

First if all, you have no idea what my political affiliation is. I simply stated that I am obviously not a liberal. Secondly, I am not bullying you. If that's what you think. Then your vagina is bigger than I thought. As for dealing with loudmouths " like me", let's add up our post counts in the last two months. I'm pretty sure you have been much louder than I. You may be able to copy and paste your liberal drabble, but you sure aren't good at math. If you would take the time to actually read my post, rather than immediately go on the defensive- trying to impress me with you superior intelligence-You'd see that it is you, not I, who has been the instigator from the get go. I am merely pointing out that your shtick is getting old, and you look like a bafoon. It's pathetic. You say you don't care what anyone thinks, yet you constantly try to impress everyone with you endless ranting about how awesome you are. Look, I understand it must be tough on you, having no life, and no real friends. And I'm sorry if the only way you can deal with difficult conversations is to try and make others feel less about themselves. It's ok. You aren't perfect.( don't jump off the cliff. I'm not perfect either. But it's ok)

The funny thing is, you actually proved my point in your latest rant By claiming that you are only here to laugh at others, and point out problems with other peoples views. You get a boost to your ego, I get it. Who's the actual bully now? Furthermore, I never said I was going to kick your ***- although I doubt I'd have any trouble dispatching your bitch *** fairly easily. However. I didn't say it would necessarily be me.

The thing is, all you far lefties are the same. You speak of tolerance and understanding, yet constantly judge those who do not think like you. You are called bleeding hearts, but your heart only bleeds when it fits your agenda. when you get down to brass tax, You are just a selfish bastard- finding issues that are appealing to you, while Trying to make others feel inferior; attempting to look smarter. Lemming? Spread out. You obviously don't like being here in United States because all of us " hillbillies" are just dumb, right? Go to Canada, Europe. Maybe you'll fit in better over there. Frankly, I don't give a ****. Just shut the **** up and quit acting like a little birch all the time. You sound like a teenage college kid that buys in to all his liberal poli sic professors' bull**** And instantly thinks he's the smartest guy in the room because he can quote niche. What you don't realize, is that you are just pawning off all the **** you've been force-fed by theses academics, having no real world experience, or ability to think for yourself. I pity people like you.
You can't think for yourself, and then claim that people like me only believe **** I read on the internet or hear on foxnews. The truth is, your an apologist. You hate what the United States stands for. And you loathe the people that have fought to make it what it is. **** you. Sincerely.

I'll propose this to the board: in the spirit of democracy, let's take a vote. If more people than not agree that you are conducting yourself in a dumbass manner, and are tired of your ****, then your *** gets perma- banned. If not, You can stay here and stroke you holier than thou ego crap all you'd like.

Deal?


I guess so. I mean, I do have a full time job, so it's not like I see him all that often. But, since he will living rent free in the basement, and doesn't have a job,is it too much to ask that he helps out around the house?

It is easy to ascertain your political affiliation, all I have to do is to look at the your third paragraph where you regurgitate rightwingnut talking points and conservative republican orthodoxy verbatim. As for trying to bully me, of course you are, you are the one who brought up getting my *** kicked. Typical of conservatives to deride anyone with an education who happens to use it, see sarah palin. If you ain't got one and you are not that smart, mock people who do and are.

You are using the faux "news" trick of opinion and news when talking other peoples views. These "views" you speak of are usually made up "facts" that are pinging around the net by rightwingnut websites that can be easily refutable, if one is so inclined. But like sarah is Africa and country or a continent? palin and dubya you have to want to know what is accurate and what is not.

And now for the third paragraph, nothing more the regurgitation of rightwingnut talking points. You first comment about "far left liberals" is a quote straight out of the mouth of bill o'reilly and you deride me for being "force-fed by theses academics". Laughable. NONE of the third paragraph has any resemblance of me, my views nor my background. I didn't get my liberalism from some "liberal poli sic professors", and it's sci not sic, I got it from my dad who was raised on a farm outside of a small town in western oklahoma.

Then the typical and predictable go to for rightwingnuts when the argument is being lost and you have no answers - YOU'RE AN APOLOGIST! YOU HATE AMERICA AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR! YOU LOATH THE PEOPLE WHO THAT FOUGHT TO MAKE IT WHAT IT IS. Where do you get this ignorant dribble? I did make the claim that people like you only believe shi!t you read from your fellow rightwingnuts and that paragraph proves it. Like I said, total regurgitation of rightwingnut talking points.

You speak of no real world experience and living in my moms basement with no friends, laughable. I had my first job when I was 13, that education I'm so fond of was EARNED while I was raising a family, working anywhere from 50 to 60 hours a week to help support them - along with my wife - going to school in the evenings after I got off work for almost six years. I'm goddamn proud of my education, I worked my *** off to get it. And I don't have some liberal arts degree, though I do have a poli sci minor.

I LOVE how you suggest I move to canada or europe, that really cracks me up. Moving to a more socialist country huh? Good one - or I could become a conservative republican who's base of support are rural voters all living off agriculture and the socialist farm program we have here in America. Funny how the teabaggers who love to cut themselves some spending found money to actually increase the amount spend on their constituents. I didn't see a word from the right about buying votes on that.

You don't know sh!t about the "spirit of democracy", just like all other constitution loving conservatives who want to refuse people their constitutionally guaranteed right to vote. You love a vote when you are guaranteed to win, but if you happen to lose, it was stolen!

[olevetonahill]

This must be 8 and his wife and Kid LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl-gxf2MQBY

[Sooner8th]

This must be 8 and his wife and Kid LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl-gxf2MQBY

ol vet and his wife curry bill

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LGVEnAur8fQ/TSAE_zQRkQI/AAAAAAAABoM/VI8RG7RNK4M/s1600/hillbilly.jpg

[olevetonahill]

ol vet and his wife curry bill

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LGVEnAur8fQ/TSAE_zQRkQI/AAAAAAAABoM/VI8RG7RNK4M/s1600/hillbilly.jpg

Yer so funny.

[FaninAma]

Sooner8th ridiculing individuals with obvious genetic defects. Pretty typical of leftist, progressive hypocrites.

What really distresses me about the left is how locked in they are to their cult of personality. I have never seen Sooner8th once question Obama's or any other prominent Democrat's actions. This type of personality worship is dangerous as is any cult-like adherence to a group of individuals.

And don't say the right is the same. Almost every conservative on this board has criticized Bush or some other GOP figure as well as some of their questionable policies.

It would take a professional cult de-programmer to change Sooner8th's mind on anything political.

That's why everybody thinks you are a troll. We have had many posters on the board who tilted to the left but none of them defended every single action of Obama or the Democratic party. That type of intransience is just not normal in a rational human being.

[REDREX]

Maybe if he had robbed a convenience store Obama would have sent someone

[Sooner8th]

Sooner8th ridiculing individuals with obvious genetic defects. Pretty typical of leftist, progressive hypocrites.

What really distresses me about the left is how locked in they are to their cult of personality. I have never seen Sooner8th once question Obama's or any other prominent Democrat's actions. This type of personality worship is dangerous as is any cult-like adherence to a group of individuals.

And don't say the right is the same. Almost every conservative on this board has criticized Bush or some other GOP figure as well as some of their questionable policies.

It would take a professional cult de-programmer to change Sooner8th's mind on anything political.

That's why everybody thinks you are a troll. We have had many posters on the board who tilted to the left but none of them defended every single action of Obama or the Democratic party. That type of intransience is just not normal in a rational human being.

LAUGHABLE. I was making fun of ol vet and curry bill, since when do you care about being PC?

90% of the time I am pointing out that what you and your are outraged at obama or a dem for doing, your party did the same exact thing and not a word was spoken to the point of if you did speak up your patriotism was questioned. Give me a ****ing break about how "Almost every conservative on this board has criticized Bush or some other GOP figure as well as some of their questionable policies." You are walking lock goosestep step with every single policy the teabaggers promote. Strict adherence to the rightwingnut party line. NONE of you complained when spending was increased on farm subsidies.

If you want to change my mind on anything concerning obama or politics, try this - don't get all ginned up about the new outrage and look and see what the truth is and lets talk about it.

[FaninAma]

That's my entire point. Discussing controllable human behavior is fair game. Using the picture of a couple of human beings with obvious genetic defects beyond their control in a lame attempt to ridicule those you disagree with is, well, lame.

The left wants to excuse the personal (i.e. Under the individual's control)behavior of large groups of people who have drank the progressive koolaid and are willing to give the Democrats their support in return for a few table scraps of entitlement benefits. They try to intimidate any criticism or debate of their policies and the resultant behavior through PC tactics.

if you wanted to post a picture of a couple of idiots to try and ridicule Ol Vet you could have used a picture of Joe Biden and Sheila Jackson-Lee, or a picture of a couple of the Kardashian family members or any number of popular entertainers or politicians.

[Sooner8th]

That's my entire point. Discussing controllable human behavior is fair game. Using the picture of a couple of human beings with obvious genetic defects beyond their control in a lame attempt to ridicule those you disagree with is, well, lame.

The left wants to excuse the personal (i.e. Under the individual's control)behavior of large groups of people who have drank the progressive koolaid and are willing to give the Democrats their support in return for a few table scraps of entitlement benefits. They try to intimidate any criticism or debate of their policies and the resultant behavior through PC tactics.

if you wanted to post a picture of a couple of idiots to try and ridicule Ol Vet you could have used a picture of Joe Biden and Sheila Jackson-Lee, or a picture of a couple of the Kardashian family members or any number of popular entertainers or politicians.

Since when did you become so pc? wwwwaaaaa

Keep regurgitating rightwingnut talking points.

Tell me what conservative policies have done for you?

If you will recall i did post a pic of three idiots bush cheney and rumsfeld.

[REDREX]

Since when did you become so pc? wwwwaaaaa

Keep regurgitating rightwingnut talking points.

Tell me what conservative policies have done for you?

If you will recall i did post a pic of three idiots bush cheney and rumsfeld.---Tell me about all the good liberal gov't has done for Detroit and California and Ill. and NY and all the other broke Blue Cities and States?

[Sooner8th]

---Tell me about all the good liberal gov't has done for Detroit and California and Ill. and NY and all the other broke Blue Cities and States?

Allow them to pay into the federal government so they can redistribute it to red states.

In retrospect, the top 10 highest net contributors to the federal budget are liberal states. The top ten are:

New Jersey
Connecticut
New Hampshire
Minnesota
Illinois
Nevada
Massachusetts
California (the “liberal wasteland” as Conservatives call it)
Colorado
New York

As of mid-2012, states that are receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid in the United States 7 of the 10 states are Conservative:

New Mexico: $2.63
West Virginia: $2.57
Mississippi: $2.47
District of Colombia: $2.41
Hawaii: $2.38
Alabama: $2.03
Alaska: $1.93
Montana: $1.92
South Carolina: $1.92
Maine: $1.78

Didn't work out for you did it? Maybe if those three states weren't carrying moocher red states they could grow faster.

[REDREX]

Allow them to pay into the federal government so they can redistribute it to red states.

In retrospect, the top 10 highest net contributors to the federal budget are liberal states. The top ten are:

New Jersey
Connecticut
New Hampshire
Minnesota
Illinois
Nevada
Massachusetts
California (the “liberal wasteland” as Conservatives call it)
Colorado
New York

As of mid-2012, states that are receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid in the United States 7 of the 10 states are Conservative:

New Mexico: $2.63
West Virginia: $2.57
Mississippi: $2.47
District of Colombia: $2.41
Hawaii: $2.38
Alabama: $2.03
Alaska: $1.93
Montana: $1.92
South Carolina: $1.92
Maine: $1.78

Didn't work out for you did it? Maybe if those three states weren't carrying moocher red states they could grow faster.--- Weak deflection argument----These Cities and States are broke because they have spent too much and over promised employees------And business have fled the state due to regulation and high taxes-----Have you ever tried to operate a business in California?----

[Sooner8th]

--- Weak deflection argument----These Cities and States are broke because they have spent too much and over promised employees------And business have fled the state due to regulation and high taxes-----Have you ever tried to operate a business in California?----

OH try again.......isn't it conservative orthodoxy that higher taxes lead to lower growth rates? But when I show that the three liberal states pay higher taxes to the feds than "low tax" states suddenly the orthodoxy of higher taxes leading to lower growth rates stops being true. Try to be consistent.

And YES I HAVE. I am very well aware of regulations of running a business in California. Have YOU?

[REDREX]

OH try again.......isn't it conservative orthodoxy that higher taxes lead to lower growth rates? But when I show that the three liberal states pay higher taxes to the feds than "low tax" states suddenly the orthodoxy of higher taxes leading to lower growth rates stops being true. Try to be consistent.

And YES I HAVE. I am very well aware of regulations of running a business in California. Have YOU?---Tell me all about California ---tell me about the taxes and stupid regulations on everything----Please tell me all about it-----You don't have a clue it is so bad we are leaving California and moving it all to Texas

[Sooner8th]

---Tell me all about California ---tell me about the taxes and stupid regulations on everything----Please tell me all about it-----You don't have a clue it is so bad we are leaving California and moving it all to Texas

We? Really, who is we? What business are you in?

[Sooner8th]

---Tell me all about California ---tell me about the taxes and stupid regulations on everything----Please tell me all about it-----You don't have a clue it is so bad we are leaving California and moving it all to Texas


OH BTW RRAAWWRRRR RRRAAAWWWRRRR

[REDREX]

OH BTW RRAAWWRRRR RRRAAAWWWRRRR---A truly stupid response

[REDREX]

We? Really, who is we? What business are you in?---Me and four other people own the business, We fabricate small crude and other mostly oil related units ----Most in the 1 to 50 Million $ range

[Sooner8th]

---Me and four other people own the business, We fabricate small crude and other mostly oil related units ----Most in the 1 to 50 Million $ range

So the only reason you are moving back is taxes and regulations? Nothing to do with Texas is a huge oil state?

[REDREX]

So the only reason you are moving back is taxes and regulations? Nothing to do with Texas is a huge oil state?---No nothing to do with it at all----Almost everything we make goes overseas-----The Taxes are bad but the regulation----that you know nothing about----is worse-----They tell you what you have to do with employee vacation pay as an example----They try and micro manage everything you do-----Please tell me about all your experience in California

[olevetonahill]

---Me and four other people own the business, We fabricate small crude and other mostly oil related units ----Most in the 1 to 50 Million $ range

Red dont explane anything about yerself to this nimrod. he will do his daymdest to twist, spin and deflect it.

[olevetonahill]

---No nothing to do with it at all----Almost everything we make goes overseas-----The Taxes are bad but the regulation----that you know nothing about----is worse-----The tell you what you have to do with employee vacation pay as an example----They try and micro manage everything you do-----Please tell me about all your experience in California

He went out and spent a week spooning with LAS last year.does that count?

[Sooner8th]

---No nothing to do with it at all----Almost everything we make goes overseas-----The Taxes are bad but the regulation----that you know nothing about----is worse-----They tell you what you have to do with employee vacation pay as an example----They try and micro manage everything you do-----Please tell me about all your experience in California

I have dealt with regulations from California for a long time. From telecommunications to warehousing to cable and internet providers. Some of them are strict as hell, like some outrageous fine for having a single alkaline battery in the trash, which are bio-degradable. I've been on the keeping the business open with the proper state agencies.

Are you talking about use it or lose it? Or when they quit?

[REDREX]

I have dealt with regulations from California for a long time. From telecommunications to warehousing to cable and internet providers. Some of them are strict as hell, like some outrageous fine for having a single alkaline battery in the trash, which are bio-degradable. I've been on the keeping the business open with the proper state agencies.

Are you talking about use it or lose it? Or when the quit?----Vacation carryover ----not to mention what it does to health coverage to have employees in California

[Turd_Ferguson]

I have dealt with regulations from California for a long time. From telecommunications to warehousing to cable and internet providers. Some of them are strict as hell, like some outrageous fine for having a single alkaline battery in the trash, which are bio-degradable. I've been on the keeping the business open with the proper state agencies.

Are you talking about use it or lose it? Or when they quit?

You wouldn't know about telecom if ya ****'n tripped over it...lemming.

[olevetonahill]

I have dealt with regulations from California for a long time. From telecommunications to warehousing to cable and internet providers. Some of them are strict as hell,
like some outrageous fine for having a single alkaline battery in the trash, which are bio-degradable. I've been on the keeping the business open with the proper state agencies.

Are you talking about use it or lose it? Or when they quit?


Are you talking in the last few years? cause up until a few years ago they had Mercury in em.

[Sooner8th]

Are you talking in the last few years? cause up until a few years ago they had Mercury in em.

yep

[Turd_Ferguson]

yep

So, you're saying Mercury hurt you? Doesn't surprise me...

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01530/freddie_1530365c.jpg

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

You are a funny little man. I'll give you this: you are excellent at deflection. Nice work. You are so defensive. Insecure maybe. You think you're the only one who has worked hard to get where they are? See, unlike you, I don't feel the need to try to prove myself to everyone to be accepted. You love to compare brain pans, but that's just a method of deflection and shows insecurity. Frankly I could give a **** about your political beliefs . I may disagree with you, but you don't see me trying to change your views. The main difference between you and I- apart from the fact that I'm probably much better looking than you-- isn't because of your political ideologies, but because I think you are a self righteous, pretentious *******. You, on the other hand, think I'm dumber than you and that my political beliefs make me that way.

As far as the *** kicking thing, If I had threatened to beat your ***, then yes you can call me a bully. However, I didn't threaten you. I simply stated that if you talked to people in person in the manner in which you do on this board, you are likely to catch a beating. I did say that I doubt I would have a problem whooping your ***, but honestly, I don't hit women, and we have already established that you are a large vagina.

Oh, and by the way, I don't give a **** about where you grew up, where you live, or your schooling. I stated how you sound. Take the time to actually read **** before flying off the handle.

OUTRAGE!!! Lmao. Is the reason that you try to be so dominant on here is because your wife is more of a man than you ? Is this your outlet? It is huh? You feel powerless in the real world, so you use the interwebs to bolster you self image! Now I fully understand! Now I feel bad. You have issues, and I am being insensitive .

Let me apologize. If I would have known sooner, I would have sent you some milk and cookies. Better yet here's some flowers.

[Sooner8th]

You are a funny little man. I'll give you this: you are excellent at deflection. Nice work. You are so defensive. Insecure maybe. You think you're the only one who has worked hard to get where they are? See, unlike you, I don't feel the need to try to prove myself to everyone to be accepted. You love to compare brain pans, but that's just a method of deflection and shows insecurity. Frankly I could give a **** about your political beliefs . I may disagree with you, but you don't see me trying to change your views. The main difference between you and I- apart from the fact that I'm probably much better looking than you-- isn't because of your political ideologies, but because I think you are a self righteous, pretentious *******. You, on the other hand, think I'm dumber than you and that my political beliefs make me that way.

As far as the *** kicking thing, If I had threatened to beat your ***, then yes you can call me a bully. However, I didn't threaten you. I simply stated that if you talked to people in person in the manner in which you do on this board, you are likely to catch a beating. I did say that I doubt I would have a problem whooping your ***, but honestly, I don't hit women, and we have already established that you are a large vagina.

Oh, and by the way, I don't give a **** about where you grew up, where you live, or your schooling. I stated how you sound. Take the time to actually read **** before flying off the handle.

OUTRAGE!!! Lmao. You don't know outrage until youve fought for the freedoms of people like yourself to talk **** on others that think like I do. That's the hardest thing 8th- honestly. Knowing me and my closest friends were willing to put our lives in the line, only to have little sniveling bitches like you talk as if you know better. Well guess what buddy? You are pathetic . And I do have nothing but contempt for you. But the difference is, I would do it all over again. I would gladly put my self out there - not only for you, but every citizen in this country. All you can say is that I am a lemming. My views are wrong. I watch faux news. I'm a ****ing hillbilly. Enjoy it you bastard. Your wife married a *****, your dad raised a bitch. **** you. You can take my masters degree and my oak leaf and shove it up your ***. I'm done with your ****. You no longer deserve my attention.

Show me where I said I'm the only one who worked hard. You brought up democrats and entitlements, not me. You of course perfectly regurgitated rightwingnut talking points about what they want to think liberals are.

Do you think I give a **** what you think about me? You know the answer.

AGAIN you bring up that you fought for my freedoms, do you think that serving our country gives you more rights than those who don't? The answer is NO, it does not.

As for OUTRAGE I know all about ginned up outrage - lets have a long conversation about the OUTRAGE of liberals "loathing" the military, which you bought into hook, line and sinker. I'll start that conversation with how your party and fellow veterans treated John Kerry because he was a DEMOCRAT. Let's talk about how Max Cleland was treated by your party. You don't understand I am mocking those buy into the OUTRAGE who grab their pitchforks and torches rush to the latest OUTRAGE at obama doing the identical thing bush or another republican president did. There is where I call you a LEMMING.

[Turd_Ferguson]

AGAIN you bring up that you fought for my freedoms, do you think that serving our country gives you more rights than those who don't? The answer is NO, it does not.

No, it does not. However, they do deserve a tremendous amount of respect. Why don't you learn how to give it.


here is where I call you a LEMMING.

Comedy gold right there folks, comedy gold...

[Sooner8th]

No, it does not. However, they do deserve a tremendous amount of respect. Why don't you learn how to give it.



Comedy gold right there folks, comedy gold...

I have a tremendous about of respect for people who serve. What I don't have respect for are people who think that respect is contingent on the political party those who served or serve is a member of.

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

Get this through your thick skull/ I don't ****ing care about your politics. My whole train of thought is based on the way you speak to people. Quit brining up political bull****, and start thinking about how you act towards those that disagree with you. You are a chump . Plain and simple. And I'm not looking for your respect. Nor so I feel I deserve more than anyone else, but you act so ****ing high and mighty that you can't see pass your own ideologies, and your relationships suffer because of it. I've been on this board for many years, and while there are some boneheads- often times me myself- what we so not tolerate are people who come on here acting like they are better than any one else. You sir fit that bill perfectly. Again. Set your ego aside, quit trying to teach people ****. and try to have some respectful meaningful conversations. Until you do this charade will go round and round.

Forget party affiliation. Forget ideology, and accept that not everyone thinks like you-- and guess what? That's perfectly fine. If you continue to be an *** abut everything, then you sir are the problem and it just reaffirms what we all already think: you simply just enjoy being a dick

[Sooner8th]

Get this through your thick skull/ I don't ****ing care about your politics. My whole train of thought is based on the way you speak to people. Quit brining up political bull****, and start thinking about how you act towards those that disagree with you. You are a chump . Plain and simple. And I'm not looking for your respect. Nor so I feel I deserve more than anyone else, but you act so ****ing high and mighty that you can't see pass your own ideologies, and your relationships suffer because of it. I've been on this board for many years, and while there are some boneheads- often times me myself- what we so not tolerate are people who come on here acting like they are better than any one else. You sir fit that bill perfectly. Again. Set your ego aside, quit trying to teach people ****. and try to have some respectful meaningful conversations. Until you do this charade will go round and round.

Forget party affiliation. Forget ideology, and accept that not everyone thinks like you-- and guess what? That's perfectly fine. If you continue to be an *** abut everything, then you sir are the problem and it just reaffirms what we all already think: you simply just enjoy being a dick

It is impossible have some respectful meaningful conversations on this board with the likes of ol vet who immediately hurls insults. I did try and call a truce, I stuck to it until I got sick of ol vet shi!t.

Unfortunately having some respectful meaningful conversations means agreeing with anything that is posted. Anything else is met with obamadong.

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

And by the way, while I respect the fact that John Kerry served in Vietnam, he is still a little bitch. And because I too have served, I can say that. Regardless of his party affiliation. His antics broke a code of honor within the military that you know nothing about.
The fact is--unlike you-- I have no problem calling someone out regardless of their party. You obviously only point to "rightwingnuts" as the problem. McCain is a prime example. I don't necessarily agree with his politics, and he can definitely be a bit dense, but I respect the man for what he has done for this country. Bush (both of them) has things I strongly disagree with, but I still respect the man. As far as your boy Obama goes, in my personal opinion, I don't agree with his beliefs. I feel he has done more harm than good for this country.I don't see any substantive value he brings to the office, but I don't need you to try to tell me how great he is. However, he is my commander and chief, and if he says I have to go fight, then I'm on it. He is still a sorry excuse for a president, but I have to respect the office and the position for which he was elected. I can disagree with everything he says, but am not going to blatantly disrespect him. You on the other hand have no problem disrespecting anyone that disagrees with you.
I'd besurprised if you fully understand the meaning of the word honor and sacrifice. No where in any of my post did I state that I'm deserving of more freedoms or respect than anyone else, but I damn sure have sacrificed more for my beliefs than you that tries to prove it on a message board.

Enough with the lemming ****, too. Find some new vocabulary. You sound like a broken record.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I was lost until I got my first taste of obamadong.DAMN!!!

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

I understand. But don't let a few people be the deciding factor for everyone. Vet and TF are who they are. They are good people. They just don't like Being disrespected. You are not going to change that man. Regardless of who started what, remember, This is just a message board. It is supposed to be fun. A way for people to connect and be a part of something. This board is a small and close knit community. Many people have been here for a very long time. He'll, I've been on for nearly ten years! ( which is unbelievable!) but maybe it was just the approach from the onset.
I'm sure your a good dude, but you come across like a dick. You're not gonna change people. Just say what you have to say in a respectful way, and let people decide for themselves. It's all good. Why do we get all worked up over people's comments? People we don't even know? When you think about it, it is ridiculous. There are much more pressing issues than ****ing cockfights on a message board, right?! So I'll say this: truce brother. This **** ain't worth it. Just work on your approach and don't try to force ****. If people don't want to agree with you, then so be it. It's not the end of the world. Agreed?

[Sooner8th]

And by the way, while I respect the fact that John Kerry served in Vietnam, he is still a little bitch. And because I too have served, I can say that. Regardless of his party affiliation. His antics broke a code of honor within the military that you know nothing about.
The fact is--unlike you-- I have no problem calling someone out regardless of their party. You obviously only point to "rightwingnuts" as the problem. McCain is a prime example. I don't necessarily agree with his politics, and he can definitely be a bit dense, but I respect the man for what he has done for this country. Bush (both of them) has things I strongly disagree with, but I still respect the man. As far as your boy Obama goes, in my personal opinion, I don't agree with his beliefs. I feel he has done more harm than good for this country.I don't see any substantive value he brings to the office, but I don't need you to try to tell me how great he is. However, he is my commander and chief, and if he says I have to go fight, then I'm on it. He is still a sorry excuse for a president, but I have to respect the office and the position for which he was elected. I can disagree with everything he says, but am not going to blatantly disrespect him. You on the other hand have no problem disrespecting anyone that disagrees with you.
I'd besurprised if you fully understand the meaning of the word honor and sacrifice. No where in any of my post did I state that I'm deserving of more freedoms or respect than anyone else, but I damn sure have sacrificed more for my beliefs than you that tries to prove it on a message board.

Enough with the lemming ****, too. Find some new vocabulary. You sound like a broken record.

What exactly did Kerry do to break the code of honor?

[Sooner8th]

I understand. But don't let a few people be the deciding factor for everyone. Vet and TF are who they are. They are good people. They just don't like Being disrespected. You are not going to change that man. Regardless of who started what, remember, This is just a message board. It is supposed to be fun. A way for people to connect and be a part of something. This board is a small and close knit community. Many people have been here for a very long time. He'll, I've been on for nearly ten years! ( which is unbelievable!) but maybe it was just the approach from the onset.
I'm sure your a good dude, but you come across like a dick. You're not gonna change people. Just say what you have to say in a respectful way, and let people decide for themselves. It's all good. Why do we get all worked up over people's comments? People we don't even know? When you think about it, it is ridiculous. There are much more pressing issues than fiver am cockfights on a message board, right?! So I'll say this: truce brother. This **** ain't worth it. Just work on your approach and don't try to force ****. If people don't want to agree with you, then so be it. It's not the end of the world. Agreed?

Agreed

BOOMER

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

:)

[rock on sooner]

What exactly did Kerry do to break the code of honor?

Ummm, might have something to do with throwing his medals back over
a fence or into the Washington Basin (not sure which). BTW, I supported
him, in spite of that...(He needs his a$$ kicked for that!!) Swift Boat was
the dirtiest campaign I have EVER seen, Anderson and his buddies should
have been drawn and quartered...jus sayin...(Oh, and I have served, in that
era, but dint go to the jungle like Vet did...

[Curly Bill]

It is impossible have some respectful meaningful conversations on this board with the likes of ol vet who immediately hurls insults. I did try and call a truce, I stuck to it until I got sick of ol vet shi!t.

Unfortunately having some respectful meaningful conversations means agreeing with anything that is posted. Anything else is met with obamadong.

I could have more respect for you if you could write a coherent sentence and spell words correctly that are above the 3rd grade level, all the while claiming you're the smartest man on the board.

Truth is you're a stupid loser troll.

[Sooner8th]

Ummm, might have something to do with throwing his medals back over
a fence or into the Washington Basin (not sure which). BTW, I supported
him, in spite of that...(He needs his a$$ kicked for that!!) Swift Boat was
the dirtiest campaign I have EVER seen, Anderson and his buddies should
have been drawn and quartered...jus sayin...(Oh, and I have served, in that
era, but dint go to the jungle like Vet did...

That whole thing was stupid on his part. The story changing is bothersome, but at the end of the day is throwing a medal or ribbon away you earned in combat justification for outright lies told about him winning the medals? I didn't see republicans stand up for Kerry and I didn't see democrats attack mccain for signing a "confession", but I did see republicans attack him twice for it, once is 2000 and again in 2008.

John Kerry was a decorated war hero regardless of what he did with his ribbons or medals. He deserved better from those who claim they support our troops and so did mccain.

[olevetonahill]

It is impossible have some respectful meaningful conversations on this board with the likes of ol vet who immediately hurls insults. I did try and call a truce, I stuck to it until I got sick of ol vet shi!t.

Unfortunately having some respectful meaningful conversations means agreeing with anything that is posted. Anything else is met with obamadong.

Dudette I called you a Moran after yer 30th post Oh No.You came back with the Crazy assed Name calling.
Yer truce meant NOTHING ! Simply because to wanted to act all *****fied. Again F uck you!

[olevetonahill]

What exactly did Kerry do to break the code of honor?

Lets see, I was there . How about the Idiot Running his swift boat into a Bank endangering his entire Crew Just so he could Jump out and chase down a young Gook kid and KILL him
But the Mother****er Got his Medals that he could then throw back
Fuc k you Dont defend that Prick to me.

[olevetonahill]

That whole thing was stupid on his part. The story changing is bothersome, but at the end of the day is throwing a medal or ribbon away you earned in combat justification for outright lies told about him winning the medals? I didn't see republicans stand up for Kerry and I didn't see democrats attack mccain for signing a "confession", but I did see republicans attack him twice for it, once is 2000 and again in 2008.


John Kerry was a decorated war hero regardless of what he did with his ribbons or medals. He deserved better from those who claim they support our troops and so did mccain.
I say agin that ignerant Mother**** didnt EARN a dayum thin!
F U ck you Show me. Ya ****in Idiot

Kiss my ase Kerry was NEVER and Never will be a F uckin Hero.

[olevetonahill]

Screw it, Im lettin this Baby Troll pizs me off and that aint good.

[Sooner8th]

Lets see, I was there . How about the Idiot Running his swift boat into a Bank endangering his entire Crew Just so he could Jump out and chase down a young Gook kid and KILL him
But the Mother****er Got his Medals that he could then throw back
Fuc k you Dont defend that Prick to me.

You were there with John Kerry on his swift boat? So you know exactly what happened? This covers one of his medals, the silver star, that would leave the bronze star he earned along with three purple hearts. What about those medals?

Kerry got his medals through the same process as anyone else in 'nam. If you question his medals, then every medal can be questioned. None of the guys on the swift boat attacks ever served with kerry.

[SCOUT]

You were there with John Kerry on his swift boat? So you know exactly what happened? This covers one of his medals, the silver star, that would leave the bronze star he earned along with three purple hearts. What about those medals?

Kerry got his medals through the same process as anyone else in 'nam. If you question his medals, then every medal can be questioned. None of the guys on the swift boat attacks ever served with kerry.

You should consider your audience when you make these types of posts.

[CK Sooner]

Yes there is and it is this.

There is nothing you dumbasses won't buy into hook line and sinker from the rightwingnut media. Go grab your pitchforks and torches. LEMMINGS

Twitter, Obama and the Gen. Harold Greene funeral hoax

Just to summarize the facts in this convoluted affair: Hagel did attend the Greene funeral. Obama and Biden did not. Nixon did not attend the Dillard funeral, and Bush did not attend the Maude funeral. There is no “tradition” of presidential attendance at generals’ funerals that Obama “bucked.” The Hagel misinformation (passed on erroneously by me) came from Drachenberg’s tweet, amplified in the Legal Insurrection post. The Nixon and Bush misinformation was a deliberate falsehood spread by Davis.

There are several lessons to be drawn from the affair. The first, and most important, is to be skeptical about everything one sees on the Internet and make a good-faith effort to ensure that information one passes on is accurate. I will certainly redouble my efforts on that score in the future. The second lesson is that when one makes a mistake, correct it as quickly as possible, more than once if necessary. And the final lesson, narrower but still important, is: Never trust a word Morris Davis says; it might be “sarcasm.”



Davis' tweet referred to Maj. Gen. John A.B. Dillard — that last U.S. general killed in combat — who died when his helicopter was shot down in Vietnam on May 12, 1970. Davis' tweet also referred to Lt. Gen. Timothy Maude, who was killed in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the Pentagon. According to Davis, the Dillard funeral was attended by then-President Richard Nixon, and the Maude funeral was attended by then-President George W. Bush. Obama, Davis said, broke that tradition by skipping General Greene's funeral.

As it turned out, both Drachenberg's tweet and Davis' tweet were wrong. Drachenberg's had an error which he later corrected. Davis' was an intentional falsehood, about which he later boasted. Both ended up ricocheting around the Internet.

I played a role in that. On Saturday morning, I tweeted, without comment, a link to the original Legal Insurrection article. A short time later, I added the following:

I was wrong. It turns out Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel did, in fact, attend the Greene funeral, a fact I should have known. Before sending out the tweet, I made a couple of perfunctory checks to see whether Hagel had attended, didn't see him in the news coverage I read and passed on the information without further checking. If I had looked into it just a bit more, I would have seen, for example, a Stars & Stripes article that specifically mentioned Hagel's presence. Once I saw that, I sent out two tweets correcting the mistake. (As for Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, it was true that neither had attended.)

The Davis tweet was another matter altogether. I did not pass it on, but it was included in the Legal Insurrection post to which I had linked. Davis stated definitively that Nixon had attended the Dillard funeral in 1970 and Bush had attended the Maude funeral in 2001, a "tradition" of presidential attendance that Obama "bucked" by ignoring the Greene funeral. As it turned out, none of that was true, and Davis, a retired U.S. Air Force colonel who played an important role in the War on Terror and who today teaches law at Howard University, knew it when he wrote it.

get a life

[Sooner8th]

You should consider your audience when you make these types of posts.

I do have to correct one of the guys did serve with kerry, my mistake.

Why should I? I thought we were having a discussion not an agreement.