Sooner Nation natives are restless tonight...

[ouwasp]

So how is the team affected by the Mixon firestorm that has divided the fanbase so much? On some other boards, Boren is being called everything but a white man, posters are lighting into each other like rabid dogs, people on both sides are damn mad and self-righteous...and the season is still a long two weeks off.

How can the team be insulated from this? Does the promising season in front of us already have a haunted flavor to it? The Sooners better not lay another egg like the '13 Texsa game or the natives may go from being restless to being on the warpath!

[SoonerMarkVA]

I don't know, but I just watched Stoops with the media after practice, and he looked off. I couldn't tell if he was sick, or had been run through the ringer with this Mixon thing, or just really PO'd, but he didn't look right. I know I wouldn't want to ask him the wrong question!

Overall, whatever the effects, they can't be good. The situation sucks, terribly. Nothing good happens after midnight.

[BoulderSooner79]

So Stoops didn't say anything happened "in a great way" after practice?

DOOMED!

[Snrinhouston]

This will be a speck in the rear-view in a week. After OU rolls La Tech, it will be gone.

[BoulderSooner79]

This will be a speck in the rear-view in a week. After OU rolls La Tech, it will be gone.

I think that is bankable.

[Curly Bill]

I don't know what kind of relationship Mixon had with the rest of the players, but I'm not so positive this just goes away like nothing happened.

[BoulderSooner79]

I don't know what kind of relationship Mixon had with the rest of the players, but I'm not so positive this just goes away like nothing happened.

Could be. It could also be a chance for Mixon to step up and be a man and tell the team to go have a great season and he'll work hard and join them next season.

[Snrinhouston]

I don't know what kind of relationship Mixon had with the rest of the players, but I'm not so positive this just goes away like nothing happened.

I'd certainly be interested in knowing if the players think Mixon got screwed. If I were them my thoughts would be "Joe, WTF do you think happens when you knock a girl cold and she gets flown out of state to have reconstructive facial surgery?"

Sadly, had he pushed her back, pinned her to the floor, bear-hugged her, pulled her to the ground by her hair, head-locked her, maybe even slapped her back…just about anything other than right crossed her closed fisted…we'd be talking about something else right now.

[SoonerorLater]

I'd certainly be interested in knowing if the players think Mixon got screwed. If I were them my thoughts would be "Joe, WTF do you think happens when you knock a girl cold and she gets flown out of state to have reconstructive facial surgery?"

Sadly, had he pushed her back, pinned her to the floor, bear-hugged her, pulled her to the ground by her hair, head-locked her, maybe even slapped her back…just about anything other than right crossed her closed fisted…we'd be talking about something else right now.

If only he would have correctly assessed the height, weight, gender, pulse of public opinion and the Oklahoma statutes governing an appropriate self-defense response in a few brief seconds then yes, we may be having a different discussion now.

[Curly Bill]

If only he would have correctly assessed the height, weight, gender, pulse of public opinion and the Oklahoma statutes governing an appropriate self-defense response in a few brief seconds then yes, we may be having a different discussion now.

Apparently you're supposed to politely ask the young woman would she quit accosting you. Should she fail to heed your pleading you're supposed to curl up in the fetal position and wait for her to tire herself out. Once you've helped her to a chair to rest and given her a refreshing beverage, it's okay to walk away, barring of course she doesn't wish to rest and accost you some more.

[bluedogok]

I'd certainly be interested in knowing if the players think Mixon got screwed. If I were them my thoughts would be "Joe, WTF do you think happens when you knock a girl cold and she gets flown out of state to have reconstructive facial surgery?"

Sadly, had he pushed her back, pinned her to the floor, bear-hugged her, pulled her to the ground by her hair, head-locked her, maybe even slapped her back…just about anything other than right crossed her closed fisted…we'd be talking about something else right now.
Another reason why she left the state and went back to her parents was in order to avoid the violations of her probation for her own legal transgressions in Norman. A combination of the two is more than likely.

[blacktop]

I don't know, but I just watched Stoops with the media after practice, and he looked off. I couldn't tell if he was sick, or had been run through the ringer with this Mixon thing, or just really PO'd, but he didn't look right. I know I wouldn't want to ask him the wrong question!

Overall, whatever the effects, they can't be good. The situation sucks, terribly. Nothing good happens after midnight.
Yea, it looks like his right eye/cheek has swelling.

[manateepower]

Stoops has been very good at dealing with tough situations, and not letting them spiral into monumental meltdowns. With all of the criticism he has received during his tenure, you could never say that his players quit on him. (2006 is the most prominent example, though not the only one, and Mack Brown's petty tirades during the 2010 season followed by the complete collapse of that teams shows that you should not take leadership for granted).

We are a very talented team, and despite the relative turmoil going on right now, I think we are going to move past it, and have a great season.

I would like to add, that Boren, between the Frank Shannon Debacle, and his apparent overruling the AD and coaching staff on Joe Mixon, Stoops could very well be out of here within the next two seasons if there isn't some serious heart to heart.

[Sooner in Tampa]

I just love on the ****ing Monday morning QB's..."well, if Mixon had only done this" or "if had done that"...BLAH BLAH BLAH

The was approached (reportedly several times) by a piece of ****, drunk off her ***, mouthy *** broad who decided she wanted to lay hands on him

Lesson to be learned here: if you are a female, you can get drunk, run your mouth, push people around, and you can even smack them...because if they retaliate...THEY are wrong...**** THAT

I have 4 daughters and I can assure you , I have taught them that once the decide they want to be a bad *** and smack a dude...they had better be prepared for happens next...TRUTH

[KantoSooner]

Yeah!

And don't forget that she's a junkie, dealer on the run from the law.

Let's not lose that part of the narrative.

[cherokeebrewer]

Apparently you're supposed to politely ask the young woman would she quit accosting you. Should she fail to heed your pleading you're supposed to curl up in the fetal position and wait for her to tire herself out. Once you've helped her to a chair to rest and given her a refreshing beverage, it's okay to walk away, barring of course she doesn't wish to rest and accost you some more.

No, you've got it all wrong. This imposing drunken druggie skank is such an imminent threat to his well being, he had to punch her in the face causing a fractured jaw, fractured cheek bone, fractured sinux and a fractured orbit which caused eye hematoma...in order to 'defend himself' from further harm.

[KantoSooner]

Happily, the law does not require us to do what our mothers would have us do; it merely sets a lowest denominator set of rules. Whereas Joe probably should have been home in bed rather than shoving a second rate Sammy down his neck at 3 in the morning, he instead was giving a worthless piece of garbage a brief, but easy to understand life lesson.

[Sooner in Tampa]

No, you've got it all wrong. This imposing drunken druggie skank is such an imminent threat to his well being, he had to punch her in the face causing a fractured jaw, fractured cheek bone, fractured sinux and a fractured orbit which caused eye hematoma...in order to 'defend himself' from further harm.

You have proof of all of these alleged injuries? Joe must be one bad mofo...Mike Tyson like with his punches. I am sure the table that got in the way of her going down had NOTHING to do with those injuries.

And for someone who had a fractured jaw, she sure gave a pretty clear and coherent interview on the radio the next day.

There are still a lot of unknowns, but it certainly looks like Mixon is going to fight this...as well he should!

She is not a druggie skank, but she is obviously a ****ty drunk. Mixon is a kid who turned 18 a couple of hours before this happened, he made a bad decision in the heat of the moment and for that he is going to lose a lot...while the ****ty drunk proceeds as she did nothing wrong...

[Sooner in Tampa]

Yeah!

And don't forget that she's a junkie, dealer on the run from the law.

Let's not lose that part of the narrative.
HAHA...not a junkie dealer...but she was certainly 'on the run' from the law since she had a outstanding warrant. But hey, it was for jaywalking or some ****, so that doesn't really matter. I mean, we can pick and choose what laws we want to follow nowadays

[birddog]

It was for possession of hydrocodone or some ****

[BoulderSooner79]

I just love on the ****ing Monday morning QB's..."well, if Mixon had only done this" or "if had done that"...BLAH BLAH BLAH

The was approached (reportedly several times) by a piece of ****, drunk off her ***, mouthy *** broad who decided she wanted to lay hands on him

Lesson to be learned here: if you are a female, you can get drunk, run your mouth, push people around, and you can even smack them...because if they retaliate...THEY are wrong...**** THAT

I have 4 daughters and I can assure you , I have taught them that once the decide they want to be a bad *** and smack a dude...they had better be prepared for happens next...TRUTH

And you're a ****ing Tuesday morning head coach. If only Stoops had done this or if he had done that… BLAH BLAH BLAH

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Yeah!

And don't forget that she's a junkie, dealer on the run from the law.

Let's not lose that part of the narrative.

Whaaa? Hadn't heard that

Also, what kind of bruiser would Mixon be if in one punch he took out the woman's face... That was some powerful damage...

I wonder if she will think twice before getting mouthy again.

[KantoSooner]

HAHA...not a junkie dealer...but she was certainly 'on the run' from the law since she had a outstanding warrant. But hey, it was for jaywalking or some ****, so that doesn't really matter. I mean, we can pick and choose what laws we want to follow nowadays

Umm, she was popped for a larger than personal use quantity of hydrocodone. Now, whether she was selling or just holding it for a good friend is unknown, but my characterization, overblown though it may be, is closer to the facts than the JunkieFelonSkank would probably want the truth to be.

Fair is fair, Joe loses a year of development toward his chosen career; she should get burned to the ground and go reinvent herself somewhere else. I'd personally suggest something she seems headed toward by inclination anyway. I think the Safari Club on Patpong Road I in Bangkok would be the perfect venue. There are several over on Soi Cowboy that are also known to hire western girls; admittedly mostly Eastern Europeans, but a trashy Texas girl would be a bit of a change up play. Phone numbers are in the book.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Umm, she was popped for a larger than personal use quantity of hydrocodone. Now, whether she was selling or just holding it for a good friend is unknown, but my characterization, overblown though it may be, is closer to the facts than the JunkieFelonSkank would probably want the truth to be.

Fair is fair, Joe loses a year of development toward his chosen career; she should get burned to the ground and go reinvent herself somewhere else. I'd personally suggest something she seems headed toward by inclination anyway. I think the Safari Club on Patpong Road I in Bangkok would be the perfect venue. There are several over on Soi Cowboy that are also known to hire western girls; admittedly mostly Eastern Europeans, but a trashy Texas girl would be a bit of a change up play. Phone numbers are in the book.

She could also go to the building across from the Singapore Hilton and hang out there...

[manateepower]

You have proof of all of these alleged injuries? Joe must be one bad mofo...Mike Tyson like with his punches. I am sure the table that got in the way of her going down had NOTHING to do with those injuries.

And for someone who had a fractured jaw, she sure gave a pretty clear and coherent interview on the radio the next day.

There are still a lot of unknowns, but it certainly looks like Mixon is going to fight this...as well he should!

She is not a druggie skank, but she is obviously a ****ty drunk. Mixon is a kid who turned 18 a couple of hours before this happened, he made a bad decision in the heat of the moment and for that he is going to lose a lot...while the ****ty drunk proceeds as she did nothing wrong...

Finally, someone with an honest take on this.

[manateepower]

And you're a ****ing Tuesday morning head coach. If only Stoops had done this or if he had done that… BLAH BLAH BLAH

What does this even have to do with anything?

[KantoSooner]

She could also go to the building across from the Singapore Hilton and hang out there...

Ah, yes Ocean Towers, the legendary 'Four Floors of Whores'! "It's not an adventure, It's a lifestyle!" (I so wanted to do T-Shirts and ball caps).

For giggles, she could go to work for Mustang Sallies with the trannies....but she'd actually be female! That'd put a warp on people's minds; so sly, lah!"

Yakin Boleh, yah, Boleh Tahan!

[Sooner in Tampa]

And you're a ****ing Tuesday morning head coach. If only Stoops had done this or if he had done that… BLAH BLAH BLAH

What the **** are you babbling about??? I have not pontificated about what I think Stoops should/should not have done.

This is out of his hands...it's has Boren written all over it.

[Sooner in Tampa]

Umm, she was popped for a larger than personal use quantity of hydrocodone. Now, whether she was selling or just holding it for a good friend is unknown, but my characterization, overblown though it may be, is closer to the facts than the JunkieFelonSkank would probably want the truth to be.

Fair is fair, Joe loses a year of development toward his chosen career; she should get burned to the ground and go reinvent herself somewhere else. I'd personally suggest something she seems headed toward by inclination anyway. I think the Safari Club on Patpong Road I in Bangkok would be the perfect venue. There are several over on Soi Cowboy that are also known to hire western girls; admittedly mostly Eastern Europeans, but a trashy Texas girl would be a bit of a change up play. Phone numbers are in the book.

Pattaya Beach may be a better destination for her...

[BoulderSooner79]

What the **** are you babbling about??? I have not pontificated about what I think Stoops should/should not have done.

This is out of his hands...it's has Boren written all over it.

Your assuming it's Boren based on zero information. You're second guessing the punishment just as much as others might second guess Mixon's choice of retaliation. That's just how your rant sounds to someone that doesn't totally agree with you.

[Sooner in Tampa]

Your assuming it's Boren based on zero information. You're second guessing the punishment just as much as others might second guess Mixon's choice of retaliation. That's just how your rant sounds to someone that doesn't totally agree with you.

I will agree with you that there is an amount of supposition on my part concerning Boren, but it is an educated guess...Stoops has talked about suspensions in the past Dvorcek and Broyles come to mind, but has refused to make one comment concerning Mixon. This leads me to believe that this is out of his hands.

I am pissed about this, I think the kid is getting the shaft because of external factors, e.g. Ray Rice, DGB, and the FSU situation. Those things should not be used against Mixon...he is a newly minted 18 y/o kid that found himself with a **** sandwich and very little bread. It is way too easy for those of us who are well past 25 y/o to tell a kid what he should have done...we have the benefit of life experiences that he does not.

[SoonerPride]

I think we can find someone to run the ball.

[BoulderSooner79]

I will agree with you that there is an amount of supposition on my part concerning Boren, but it is an educated guess...Stoops has talked about suspensions in the past Dvorcek and Broyles come to mind, but has refused to make one comment concerning Mixon. This leads me to believe that this is out of his hands.

I am pissed about this, I think the kid is getting the shaft because of external factors, e.g. Ray Rice, DGB, and the FSU situation. Those things should not be used against Mixon...he is a newly minted 18 y/o kid that found himself with a **** sandwich and very little bread. It is way too easy for those of us who are well past 25 y/o to tell a kid what he should have done...we have the benefit of life experiences that he does not.

And I agree with you on much of that. I'll leave the external factors such as Ray Rice aside as I see no reason to get wound up about speculation I can't prove. The thing you and many other discount is that there was a verbal escalation prior to the physical escalation and all stories point to Mixon being fully involved in that. That DA called it out and he had access to every witness present and most of them were from Mixon's party. The physical encounter doesn't happen if there is no verbal escalation, so I don't feel Mixon is totally innocent here. I still don't think a full season suspension is the best choice of punishment, but it's a judgement call.

[SoonerinLA]

Ah, yes Ocean Towers, the legendary 'Four Floors of Whores'! "It's not an adventure, It's a lifestyle!" (I so wanted to do T-Shirts and ball caps).

Actually it is Orchard Towers. A friend told me that. Yeah I heard it from a friend.

[manateepower]

And I agree with you on much of that. I'll leave the external factors such as Ray Rice aside as I see no reason to get wound up about speculation I can't prove. The thing you and many other discount is that there was a verbal escalation prior to the physical escalation and all stories point to Mixon being fully involved in that. That DA called it out and he had access to every witness present and most of them were from Mixon's party. The physical encounter doesn't happen if there is no verbal escalation, so I don't feel Mixon is totally innocent here. I still don't think a full season suspension is the best choice of punishment, but it's a judgement call.

So you have seen the video of this incident that makes the Ray Rice situation comparable to Joe's?

The Ray Rice video was immediately leaked. The Michigan video got released. All that while what is apparently "the worst assault on a woman of all time", is nowhere to be found a whole month after the incident, even when showing it would vindicate Molitar, the DA, and Boren, and would put an end to this bickering once and for all.

Oh yeah, let me ask for the one millionth time. Come someone explain to me why supposedly horrid video hasn't been made public yet??

[KantoSooner]

You're right, my bad. It's been a few years....

And if you go back, Muddy's across the street from the taxi stand is great fun. You can get a pint of Old Speckled Hen and watch the accountants from Minneapolis getting poured into cabs of an evening by Shemen and taken back to their hotels; sure to awaken the next day to an entirely changed perspective on themselves!

[Sooner in Tampa]

And I agree with you on much of that. I'll leave the external factors such as Ray Rice aside as I see no reason to get wound up about speculation I can't prove. The thing you and many other discount is that there was a verbal escalation prior to the physical escalation and all stories point to Mixon being fully involved in that. That DA called it out and he had access to every witness present and most of them were from Mixon's party. The physical encounter doesn't happen if there is no verbal escalation, so I don't feel Mixon is totally innocent here. I still don't think a full season suspension is the best choice of punishment, but it's a judgement call.
I also agree about the verbal altercation and I am not discounting that fact...but I will submit that words are one thing and physically assaulting someone are two different things entirely. I would also like to go on record and say that Mixon is fact not completely innocent in this entire ordeal.

I also agree that it could be called jumping to conclusions adding Ray Rice to the discussion, but I think it is a fair assumption. Boren has proven to be politically savvy in the past and I think he doing so again in both the Mixon and Shannon case.

[BoulderSooner79]

So you have seen the video of this incident that makes the Ray Rice situation comparable to Joe's?


I don't think you're following the thread. I said I'm not assuming the Ray Rice video influenced the school punishment one way or another.

To answer your question, the DA got to the tape before anyone else could leak it and now the judge has ordered it to stay that way for now.

[BoulderSooner79]

I also agree about the verbal altercation and I am not discounting that fact...but I will submit that words are one thing and physically assaulting someone are two different things entirely. I would also like to go on record and say that Mixon is fact not completely innocent in this entire ordeal.



Yes, words are one thing, but once a situation escalates, emotions rule and reason goes out the window. And in today's society, the N-word can be part of a hate crime and the F-word is pretty close behind. I think it is relevant that the DA *did not* say the N-word was used and the only one sticking to that story is Mixon's lawyer. I give what Molitor says and what Mixon's lawyer says zero weight unless it can be backed up by witness and/or video evidence.

[manateepower]

I don't think you're following the thread. I said I'm not assuming the Ray Rice video influenced the school punishment one way or another.

To answer your question, the DA got to the tape before anyone else could leak it and now the judge has ordered it to stay that way for now.

The issue I have with that explanation is that that is not how the modern world works. Video of violent acts tend to get leaked very quickly, and even if they are removed shortly after the damage is already done, it is far too late, as people have downloaded it, made copies, etc.

I don't know exactly when the DA got to the tape. I am assuming he wasn't at the bar having a drink, and the second Mixon fled the scene, he went to the video room, stole the tape from the owner, drove right down to the courtoom, and presented it to the judge.

I have to assume that for a number of days, no one had any interest at all of posting this "violent video" on youtube or sending it to any media outlet, even though it is the biggest story in the Sooner's offeason, then the DA got his hands on it before anyone could change their minds.

Also, if the video is as bad as some claim it is, then how would the case be affected by showing it to the public? If Mixon really did punch her in the face, and everyone saw it, would that make it less likely to get a conviction?

[BoulderSooner79]

You seem pretty hung up on the video. Maybe that will be justified when it becomes public (and it will). I don't see any dark conspiracy here. I'm as curious as anyone, but it easy to see how it might not have been leaked. 911 was called and the responding police may have asked the employees for any video at that time. The PD may have contacted the owner and told him not to publish it right away. Who knows.

[manateepower]

You seem pretty hung up on the video.

Yes, I do get hung up on trivial things such as evidence before declaring anyone a thug and advocating their expulsion from a program. lol

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Actually it is Orchard Towers. A friend told me that. Yeah I heard it from a friend.
Yes, Orchard Towers...

[birddog]

So you have seen the video of this incident that makes the Ray Rice situation comparable to Joe's?

The Ray Rice video was immediately leaked. The Michigan video got released. All that while what is apparently "the worst assault on a woman of all time", is nowhere to be found a whole month after the incident, even when showing it would vindicate Molitar, the DA, and Boren, and would put an end to this bickering once and for all.

Oh yeah, let me ask for the one millionth time. Come someone explain to me why supposedly horrid video hasn't been made public yet??

The video of the Michigan player layin out a dood took a month to release. Mixon vid may take a minute but it will be released.

[BoulderSooner79]

The video of the Michigan player layin out a dood took a month to release. Mixon vid may take a minute but it will be released.

And more importantly, the powers that be at OU made a decision based on the information they already had in hand. Even the legal outcome of the charges were not relevant to them.

[birddog]

Michigan's York has been dismissed from the team according to Brady Hoke, fwiw.

[SoonerorLater]

The video of the Michigan player layin out a dood took a month to release. Mixon vid may take a minute but it will be released.

By which time the case will have been adjudicated and the outcome determined by a court of law. Beyond that we need not care what a bunch of media pundits have to say.

[Sooner in Tampa]

Michigan's York has been dismissed from the team according to Brady Hoke, fwiw.

WGAF what Michigan does...York totally sucker punched his victim...that **** was completely different

[birddog]

Easy fella. Just pointing out the punishment a player got for breaking a guys jaw and then fleeing the scene like a coward. The sucker punch was cowardly enough

[Sooner91ATL]

Mixon's suspension is appropriate, measured, and proportionate to other similar suspensions (dude from Michigan). Didn't Broyles get a year for stealing gas? This is worse than that. He could have killed her. The he man woman hater's crowd would have us think that the girl is to blame. But it was Joe who raised his hand and crushed her face when he did not have to. He was not in danger and did not need to defend himself from a push, a slap, and a racial slur from a drunk idiot that no doubt he knows how to handle without his fists. He chose to take physical action, and the actions have consequences. He still has a chance to sit a year, and come back and break records just like Broyles did. Hat in hand and grateful for a second chance.

[SoonerorLater]

He was not in danger and did not need to defend himself from a push, a slap, and a racial slur

Easy for you to say since you weren't the one who was getting pushed, slapped and slurred. But hey, if you enjoy being some woman's punching bag don't let anyone here dissuade you.

[BoulderSooner79]

I always enjoy being a woman's punching bag, unless she charges too much.

[KantoSooner]

spanking is NOT the same as punching.

[BoulderSooner79]

spanking is NOT the same as punching.

Agreed! And my tip always reflects that.

[SoonerPride]

Easy for you to say since you weren't the one who was getting pushed, slapped and slurred. But hey, if you enjoy being some woman's punching bag don't let anyone here dissuade you.

There is no justification whatsoever for hitting a woman.

None.

[KantoSooner]

So, let's try a hypothetical. Chyna is belaboring you with a folding chair. You clock her? Or no?

[birddog]

I'd kick her in the nads

[BoulderSooner79]

So, let's try a hypothetical. Chyna is belaboring you with a folding chair. You clock her? Or no?

What are you, the NSA? Keep out of my contact list!

[SoonerorLater]

There is no justification whatsoever for hitting a woman.

None.

Why not?

[cherokeebrewer]

My wife has used me like a punchin' bag for years. It's no big deal...

[ouwasp]

There is no justification whatsoever for hitting a woman.

None.

So is there justification for hitting a man? Hey, you Borenites got what you wanted, why don't you let us simmer in peace?

[8timechamps]

How does this affect the team?

I'm guessing it really doesn't right now.

When Stoops brought in the new coaches, I felt like there was a change of philosophy. One of the biggest was the "next man up" mentality. We lost a lot of talent throughout the season, and played the best game of the year in the Sugar Bowl. We lost our leader on defense, what appeared to be a difference changer on the line, and our most versatile offensive weapon. We missed big time players for some games (Colvin, Williams), and half of our offensive line at the time it mattered most. Yet, we still finished a pretty damn good season. I think this team knows that it's bigger than any one player, and to win, everyone has to be ready when their name is called.

Having Mixon available this year would have been nice. At the very least, he would have added depth. However, we still have a couple (at least) of guys, that aren't exactly slouches, to carry the ball.

Mixon was a highly touted recruit, but he wasn't a team leader.

I don't think this will be a distraction, or will cripple this team in any way.

For the first time in a while, I think this team understands it's the sum of all parts that's important.

[soonergirlNeugene]

Regarding his relationship with the rest of the team, remember those ESPN rumors about him being unhappy or not fitting in on campus? If they were completely baseless, ESPN is even worse than I thought.

[BoulderSooner79]

Sooner natives seem pretty restful tonight. So it only takes a day and a half for you bastages to get to the 5th and final stages of grief? Awesome!

:sorrow::cold::neglected::abnormal::highly_amused:

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Sooner natives seem pretty restful tonight. So it only takes a day and a half for you bastages to get to the 5th and final stages of grief? Awesome!

:sorrow::cold::neglected::abnormal::highly_amused: If you expected any of us to turn whorn or orange aggy, just because we have possibly gotten too PC at the top, think again.

[Sooner in Tampa]

There is no justification whatsoever for hitting a woman.

None.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion...and I can respectfully and completely disagree with you.

[SoonerPride]

Why not?

Because I expect civilized people to act civilized.

We are not neanderthals.

[SoonerPride]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion...and I can respectfully and completely disagree with you.

Yes, you are entitled to be whatever kind of person you wish.

[SoonerPride]

So is there justification for hitting a man? Hey, you Borenites got what you wanted, why don't you let us simmer in peace?

Borenites?

What the hell is that?

[KantoSooner]

Because I expect civilized people to act civilized.

We are not neanderthals.

And some 20% or so of our fellows feel compelled to 'carry' when they go to Walmart.

Is this paranoid insanity? Or a rational response to a real threat? I'd suggest that the arguments on either side are more persuasive than the folks opposed to them might like to admit.

[BoulderSooner79]

If you expected any of us to turn whorn or orange aggy, just because we have possibly gotten too PC at the top, think again.
:highly_amused:
Nah, that was more of a roll call to make sure the enraged really did back off the ledge.

[Sooner in Tampa]

Yes, you are entitled to be whatever kind of person you wish.

And skank chicks who want act like Neanderthals tend to get their due.

I have NEVER hit a woman in my 47 yrs on this earth, but I will guarantee you that if a chick went all drunken crazy on me and slapped me on my ear...I am no longer obligated to act like a gentleman.

[BoulderSooner79]

And skank chicks who want act like Neanderthals tend to get their due.

I have NEVER hit a woman in my 47 yrs on this earth, but I will guarantee you that if a chick went all drunken crazy on me and slapped me on my ear...I am no longer obligated to act like a gentleman.

We're all up to level 5 "acceptance" - get with the program, man.

[SoonerorLater]

Because I expect civilized people to act civilized.

We are not neanderthals.

Ah yes, sitting around the campfire, holding hands, singing Give Peace a Chance. Sounds beautiful man.

[ouwasp]

Borenites?

What the hell is that?

A Borenite is a term that is defined as a Sooner poster that marches in lockstep with PC Pres. Boren. They are happy young Joe Mixon was excessively punished, and they feel deep sympathy for the helpless victim, Miss Molitor. Further, the Borenite takes great pleasure in the knuckle-dragging Neanderthals being irritated by Boren's heavy-handedness. They got their way, more than most of them dared hope, and now they wish to push said victory in our face. They will probably secretly take pleasure if the Sooner football team loses a game this season due to a weak rushing attack. They are sitting fat and happy right now...just like Boren.

[BoulderSooner79]

The sweeping generalization that just soft PC type people think Mixon was in the wrong is nonsense. My father is an 80+ y.o. get-off-my-lawn, cranky white man who is the polar opposite of PC and he thinks Mixon was in the wrong. He's also a huge life long OU fan. Most his friends are just like him.

[birddog]

Secretly take pleasure in OU losing a game? So a borenite is someone who isn't a real fan.

[ouwasp]

Secretly take pleasure in OU losing a game? So a borenite is someone who isn't a real fan.

In some cases, that is the truth.

[olevetonahill]

Because I expect civilized people to act civilized.

We are not neanderthals.

Are you for real? Civilized people? You do realize that Humans are still Animal's right?
We all still have the same basic survival instincts , Seems some have put em in their Purse tho.

[cherokeebrewer]

A Borenite is a term that is defined as a Sooner poster that marches in lockstep with PC Pres. Boren. They are happy young Joe Mixon was excessively punished, and they feel deep sympathy for the helpless victim, Miss Molitor. Further, the Borenite takes great pleasure in the knuckle-dragging Neanderthals being irritated by Boren's heavy-handedness. They got their way, more than most of them dared hope, and now they wish to push said victory in our face. They will probably secretly take pleasure if the Sooner football team loses a game this season due to a weak rushing attack. They are sitting fat and happy right now...just like Boren.

A person could write the opposite of that and sound just as stupid...

[ouwasp]

A person could write the opposite of that and sound just as stupid...

then get after it big boy. You Borenites are so happy at our distress, go ahead and have some more fun.

[cherokeebrewer]

then get after it big boy. You Borenites are so happy at our distress, go ahead and have some more fun.

Not my cup a java...

[BoulderSooner79]

Secretly take pleasure in OU losing a game? So a borenite is someone who isn't a real fan.

As badger eloquently pointed out, Boren has proven to be a real fan over the years. How about the scorched-earth types that hope Mixon leaves and hope OU loses recruits because of it just to prove the school was wrong? Are they real fans?

[olevetonahill]

As badger eloquently pointed out, Boren has proven to be a real fan over the years. How about the scorched-earth types that hope Mixon leaves and hope OU loses recruits because of it just to prove the school was wrong? Are they real fans?

Bro, Hyperbole much?
Show me ONE person who has said they WANT Mixon to leave, They WANT OU to lose recruits. Please show me Just one who said thats what they WANTED.

[SoonerForLife92]

Yes, you are entitled to be whatever kind of person you wish.

Because you're just such a better and morally justified person? "No one should ever hit a women" even when she is drunk and mouthing off to you and hitting you herself.

[BoulderSooner79]

Bro, Hyperbole much?
Show me ONE person who has said they WANT Mixon to leave, They WANT OU to lose recruits. Please show me Just one who said thats what they WANTED.

I have to go to another board of which we do not mention. I realize boards are different, but most the opinions here are represented but multiplied by 1000x on LT. Both boards are Sooner fans and there are definitely scorched earth types out there. I also suspect they are just venting and will get over it - just stirring the pot. (I know you would never do that).

[olevetonahill]

Because you're just such a better and morally justified person? "No one should ever hit a women" even when she is drunk and mouthing off to you and hitting you herself.

Dont ya know a Civilized person takes it and takes it until the PoPo show up and pulls the Crazy yainch off, They Never defend themselves from any threat of harm. He will wait for the PoPo to come instead of Hittin a woman who is beatin the shat out of his 3 year old kid.

[olevetonahill]

I have to go to another board of which we do not mention. I realize boards are different, but most the opinions here are represented but multiplied by 1000x on LT. Both boards are Sooner fans and there are definitely scorched earth types out there. I also suspect they are just venting and will get over it - just stirring the pot. (I know you would never do that).
Moi? Heaven forbid.:) I dont go anywhere but here and the Hideout.
I thot you were referrin to someone here.

[ouwasp]

Hey, the real season, and winning will heal most wounds. I've already cooled down a lot. I just get riled up again when the anti-Mixon bunch can't just enjoy their triumph without trying to get us to agree to a position that we simply do not embrace. Joe lost, we lost, you won, Boren won, we get it. Now quit crowing about it.

I just really and truly hope the team doesn't have this sort of animosity in the locker room. I'm guessing they don't or it would have seeped out by now.

[SoonerPride]

Because you're just such a better and morally justified person? "No one should ever hit a women" even when she is drunk and mouthing off to you and hitting you herself.

Yes. Even then.

Men do not hit women.

[CK Sooner]

Yes. Even then.

Men do not hit women.

Yes, yes they do.

[SoonerPride]

Yes, yes they do.

Not real men.

Barbarians? Scum? Sure.

Real men do not hit women.

[CK Sooner]

Not real men.

Barbarians? Scum? Sure.

Real men do not hit women.


I bet you are the manliest of men.



Oh and I should add I would never hit a women unless attacked first and no way out.

But since you are such a big strong man (doubt it) you could probably just scare a drunk, drug addict woman away.

[SoonerPride]

I bet you are the manliest of men.



Oh and I should add I would never hit a women unless attacked first and no way out.

But since you are such a big strong man (doubt it) you could probably just scare a drunk, drug addict woman away.

One's masculinity is not measured by one's ability to "scare" a woman.

How pathetic.

[SoonerForLife92]

Not real men.

Barbarians? Scum? Sure.

Real men do not hit women.

Lol scum? So now Mixon is scum and not a real man? People who defend themselves are not real men? Have you seen Mixon? He could have destroyed that girls face and permanently given her brain damage; but no, he gave her a love tap to stop her physically assaulting him. What was he supposed to do get in a slap fight with her? Run from her? Yeah that's what real men do. So I guess you think men should always get paid more and women shouldn't be allowed to fight in the military? Get with the times and get off your high horse.

[SoonerorLater]

Not real men.

Barbarians? Scum? Sure.

Real men do not hit women.

So Barbarians aren't real men? That sounds very bigoted and I resent you painting all Barbarians with a broad brush. There are many good, decent, hard-working Barbarians out there that will find your post offensive.

[CK Sooner]

One's masculinity is not measured by one's ability to "scare" a woman.

How pathetic.

Traditional masculine norms, are "avoidance of femininity; restricted emotions; sex disconnected from intimacy; pursuit of achievement and status; self-reliance; strength; and aggression; and homophobia. These norms serve to produce and reproduce gender roles by symbolically associating specific attributes and characteristics with each gender.

Path less traveled I guess, ya little girl.

[SoonerPride]

Lol scum? So now Mixon is scum and not a real man? People who defend themselves are not real men? Have you seen Mixon? He could have destroyed that girls face and permanently given her brain damage; but no, he gave her a love tap to stop her physically assaulting him. What was he supposed to do get in a slap fight with her? Run from her? Yeah that's what real men do. So I guess you think men should always get paid more and women shouldn't be allowed to fight in the military? Get with the times and get off your high horse.

um, he did break her face. "love tap?" um, wow.

He wasn't threatened by her. He could stop her "attack" without hitting her. easily.

and finally, no, he is not a man. he is a boy.

he is but a child.

however, if he doesn't learn from this then yes, he will be scum.

[SoonerPride]

Path less traveled I guess, ya little girl.

hmm. nowhere in your definition were the words "scare women."

and your sad attempt at ad hominem attacks clearly shows your reasoning fails you. have a nice day.

[CK Sooner]

um, he did break her face. "love tap?" um, wow.

He wasn't threatened by her. He could stop her "attack" without hitting her. easily.

and finally, no, he is not a man. he is a boy.

he is but a child.

however, if he doesn't learn from this then yes, he will be scum.

I am guessing you have never been in a fight in your life. I have seen huge men get attacked by women and they may be able to restrain them but they took damage while doing it. I am not gonna be injured. I have my doubts about you being able to restrain a woman in the first place.

[SoonerForLife92]

um, he did break her face. "love tap?" um, wow.

He wasn't threatened by her. He could stop her "attack" without hitting her. easily.

and finally, no, he is not a man. he is a boy.

he is but a child.

however, if he doesn't learn from this then yes, he will be scum.

Yet she gave a perfectly fine interview the next day. Where are your sources that he "broke her face"?

[CK Sooner]

hmm. nowhere in your definition were the words "scare women."

and your sad attempt at ad hominem attacks clearly shows your reasoning fails you. have a nice day.

Being physically domineering would in most cases make women think twice about fighting you, yes.

Try again, girly.

[SoonerPride]

Yet she gave a perfectly fine interview the next day. Where are your sources that he "broke her face"?

Try Google. It works.

But here ya go....


According to the probable cause affidavit Molitor was knocked unconscious. Molitor was transferred to Norman Regional following the alleged assault.

She suffered "a fractured jaw, fractured cheek bone, fracture sinus and fractured orbit which caused a hematoma on the left eye."


"You can't look past the injuries to Ms. Molitor," Mashburn said. "You can't look past that it is a guy and a girl.

- See more at: https://oklahoma.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1670557#sthash.KYKFluSw.dpuf

[CK Sooner]

This guy is a true man right here. Luckily woman can't do damage.

Maybe he should of tried restraining her like you said.
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[SoonerorLater]

I am guessing you have never been in a fight in your life. I have seen huge men get attacked by women and they may be able to restrain them but they took damage while doing it. I am not gonna be injured. I have my doubts about you being able to restrain a woman in the first place.

I see you just aren't getting with the program here. If a woman is slapping or hitting you and you aren't manly enough to laugh off a facial cut or a scratched cornea, well that's on you. You should have had the foresight to wear safety goggles and protective headgear.

[cherokeebrewer]

This thread has degenerated...

[BoulderSooner79]

I see you just aren't getting with the program here. If a woman is slapping or hitting you and you aren't manly enough to laugh off a facial cut or a scratched cornea, well that's on you. You should have had the foresight to wear safety goggles and protective headgear.

Legally, you can hit back, but you are responsible for the damages. Molitor would have been charged had she injured Mixon. And Mixon is just charged, he may well be acquitted.

As an OU football player, there more rules than just the law. You don't get in confrontations in the wee hours of the morning and break bones in someones face. Life's not fair - deal with it.

[SoonerorLater]

Life's not fair

Which is exactly why we need to work so hard to make it that way.

[ouwasp]

See, the degeneration of this thread illustrates what I fear might happen to the team. But hopefully they're too busy and/or tired to continue to hash out a settled issue.

[BoulderSooner79]

Which is exactly why we need to work so hard to make it that way.

A player accepts a scholly from a elite D1 football program implies he accepts the extra rules from the school. And they were not applied blindly as the people in charge decided after careful consideration. And Mixon is free to leave. So you may not like it, but in this case it is perfectly fair.

And if you saw that clause about Mixon ordered by the court not to interact with any state's witnesses, all this whining could be moot. I don't know who was at Mixon's Bday party, but who else outside the team would he know in Norman? Would be very interesting to see that list of state's witnesses.

[BoulderSooner79]

See, the degeneration of this thread illustrates what I fear might happen to the team. But hopefully they're too busy and/or tired to continue to hash out a settled issue.

And it degenerated from a very low platform :witless:

[SoonerorLater]

A player accepts a scholly from a elite D1 football program implies he accepts the extra rules from the school. And they were not applied blindly as the people in charge decided after careful consideration. And Mixon is free to leave. So you may not like it, but in this case it is perfectly fair.

And if you saw that clause about Mixon ordered by the court not to interact with any state's witnesses, all this whining could be moot. I don't know who was at Mixon's Bday party, but who else outside the team would he know in Norman? Would be very interesting to see that list of state's witnesses.

Yes he did accept the scholarship but the other side of the equation is that OU aggressively recruited Mixon. If Joe Mixon broke any team rules then this certainly has never been stated by any member of the administration. I just find it incredible that anybody would hold it against Mixon for decking an assailant. Female or not. He was pushed he was slapped. Nowhere do I read or is it a given that she was ready to stop the assault at one slap before he struck her to put an end to it. I find the administrations reaction way out of proportion to his perceived transgression.

[ouwasp]

And it degenerated from a very low platform :witless:

This is true. Neither side is gonna back down or agree. Like I said earlier, maybe the season will make it settle down.

[KantoSooner]

Yes. Even then.

Men do not hit women.

No reason to hit 'em. I have freakishly long arms (like a damn monkey if I was honest). I just grab people who threaten me by the throat and then let 'em flail away, safely 5-6" beyond my nose. Hell on my upper arms, but it works.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Hey, the real season, and winning will heal most wounds. I've already cooled down a lot. I just get riled up again when the anti-Mixon bunch can't just enjoy their triumph without trying to get us to agree to a position that we simply do not embrace. Joe lost, we lost, you won, Boren won, we get it. Now quit crowing about it.

I just really and truly hope the team doesn't have this sort of animosity in the locker room. I'm guessing they don't or it would have seeped out by now.Well said. Agree with what you said. I think the team and coaches will get past it pretty quickly. I hope Joe can and will hang tough, and as an OU student. There WILL be another Media sh*t storm when the video gets out. Hope everyone gets over it quickly when it happens.

I do think DGB and Mayfield won't play this year, and likely DGB won't play college ball after this year. Goes stright to the pros.

[BoulderSooner79]

Yes he did accept the scholarship but the other side of the equation is that OU aggressively recruited Mixon. If Joe Mixon broke any team rules then this certainly has never been stated by any member of the administration. I just find it incredible that anybody would hold it against Mixon for decking an assailant. Female or not. He was pushed he was slapped. Nowhere do I read or is it a given that she was ready to stop the assault at one slap before he struck her to put an end to it. I find the administrations reaction way out of proportion to his perceived transgression.

So he was heavily recruiting? So was every guy on the team and he would have to accept the authority of whichever school he went to. I've already said I thought the penalty was harsher than I expected, but I also accept the school is completely within their rights to take this action. Another thing that is FACT is that Stoops/JoeC/Boren know more details than anyone on this board. They have met face to face with the DA and guy(s) on the team. And as you've seen on this board, not even everyone here (all OU fans) agrees with you.

I was in OK a couple of weeks ago to visit my father and we talked about this as it was fresh news. He is (very) old school and very anti-PC, but was brought up not to hit women. He's not wrong to think that way, it's just his moral code. He would be dismissed from jury out of hand, but I'm not talking law here. But he's not inflexible, I asked him what if Mixon had just slapped her back and he admitted he would have laughed at that. So for many people it's responding with a Howitzer when confronted with a pea shooter that's the issue. And I mean a straw and a pea, not a small caliber gun.

[SoonerForLife92]

Try Google. It works.

But here ya go....





- See more at: https://oklahoma.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1670557#sthash.KYKFluSw.dpuf

Fractures are not the same as a "broken face" in my opinion. Being able to talk fine the next day is not a broken face in my opinion. He could have caused her brain damage and completely seperated the bones in her face if he actually hit her as hard as you are making it out to be. I thought you might actually point me to a source that has more of a medical report than the statements of the DA. Either way the fact that you are calling anyone scum for defending themselves is complete ignorance on your part.

You have your opinions, we have ours, but when you act all high and mighty like you are so much better than people with differing opinions then that is you being ridiculous.

So if Ronda Rousey was to come attack me full force, I should just try to take it and let her tire herself out? Because a man should never ever defend himself against a woman.

[SoonerorLater]

So he was heavily recruiting? So was every guy on the team and he would have to accept the authority of whichever school he went to. I've already said I thought the penalty was harsher than I expected, but I also accept the school is completely within their rights to take this action. Another thing that is FACT is that Stoops/JoeC/Boren know more details than anyone on this board. They have met face to face with the DA and guy(s) on the team. And as you've seen on this board, not even everyone here (all OU fans) agrees with you.

I was in OK a couple of weeks ago to visit my father and we talked about this as it was fresh news. He is (very) old school and very anti-PC, but was brought up not to hit women. He's not wrong to think that way, it's just his moral code. He would be dismissed from jury out of hand, but I'm not talking law here. But he's not inflexible, I asked him what if Mixon had just slapped her back and he admitted he would have laughed at that. So for many people it's responding with a Howitzer when confronted with a pea shooter that's the issue. And I mean a straw and a pea, not a small caliber gun.

For those people that think that way I would say the Howitzer / pea shooter thing is a specious analogy. She apparently shoved him, slapped him and he responded with a (one) blow that incapacitated his attacker. Some people here will view his behavior as atrocious, others will say job well done. There will never be an agreement of what is reasonable because these two very different viewpoints have a completely different nexus. If you are of one viewpoint you see this as Mixon hitting a woman. If you are of the other viewpoint you see it as Mixon taking out an assailant. That's why this is such a polarizing event.

[BoulderSooner79]

For those people that think that way I would say the Howitzer / pea shooter thing is a specious analogy. She apparently shoved him, slapped him and he responded with a (one) blow that incapacitated his attacker. Some people here will view his behavior as atrocious, others will say job well done. There will never be an agreement of what is reasonable because these two very different viewpoints have a completely different nexus. If you are of one viewpoint you see this as Mixon hitting a woman. If you are of the other viewpoint you see it as Mixon taking out an assailant. That's why this is such a polarizing event.

He is an elite athlete full of fast twitch muscle - most regular guys his size couldn't fracture bones if they tried. She was an obviously intoxicated person 2/3 his size. The "woman" part is just more input that she was likely smaller and weaker. And he had plenty of time to size her up because there was a verbal exchange going on. A slap is insulting and infuriating. That's why it was often used to challenge someone to a duel - cause someone to accept a duel on angry impulse. But a slap is highly unlikely to harm and it didn't in this case. "One blow to incapacitate his attacker" sounds like a cop or a lawyer justifying excessive force. Bob Stoop isn't a judge probing the corners of a law book - he is showing the player and his team what he expects. He has close to 100 guys under his watch at all times that are elite athletes more capable of harming others than the average person. And these guys lives revolve around a violent, aggressive game. Bob has to keep the aggression on the field.

[Turd_Ferguson]

He is an elite athlete full of fast twitch muscle - most regular guys his size couldn't fracture bones if they tried. She was an obviously intoxicated person 2/3 his size. The "woman" part is just more input that she was likely smaller and weaker. And he had plenty of time to size her up because there was a verbal exchange going on. A slap is insulting and infuriating. That's why it was often used to challenge someone to a duel - cause someone to accept a duel on angry impulse. But a slap is highly unlikely to harm and it didn't in this case. "One blow to incapacitate his attacker" sounds like a cop or a lawyer justifying excessive force. Bob Stoop isn't a judge probing the corners of a law book - he is showing the player and his team what he expects. He has close to 100 guys under his watch at all times that are elite athletes more capable of harming others than the average person. And these guys lives revolve around a violent, aggressive game. Bob has to keep the aggression on the field.

I agree with the bold part. The rest, I have to call nonsense. There are guys that weigh 140#'s soaking wet and will break your jaw with one punch. Some peeps are just heavy handed. You also have guys that their face is one big button. You hit that button and the fist automatically fly's. She succeeded in getting his ire up then slapped him. He may have thought it was going to be nothing but an argument with a drunk girl and it took an unexpected left hand turn that caused him to automatically react. I don't know, you don't know.

[olevetonahill]

Come on Season
Hells bells guys How many ways can 1/2 say a Man ort never ever never evr hit a Wimmens and the other 1/2 say that Bitch get all up in My grill Ima Pound her.
**** me running lets let this shat go and think about FOOT BALL

[BoulderSooner79]

I agree with the bold part. The rest, I have to call nonsense. There are guys that weigh 140#'s soaking wet and will break your jaw with one punch. Some peeps are just heavy handed. You also have guys that their face is one big button. You hit that button and the fist automatically fly's. She succeeded in getting his ire up then slapped him. He may have thought it was going to be nothing but an argument with a drunk girl and it took an unexpected left hand turn that caused him to automatically react. I don't know, you don't know.

I'm generalizing - of course there are small people that would be a danger in a fight - women included. But it's unlikely and more unlikely if they are obviously intoxicated (emphasized in every report from both sides). I just doubt people really believe in this self defense stuff. Sure, it's justified by law. But applying Occam's Razor, what is more likely? Mixon really felt threatened --or-- getting slapped in the face really pissed him off? Most guys I know would not feel threatened, but almost all of them would get really pissed. I'm betting that's what happened to Mixon too, but as you say, I don't know.

Of course I could put out a pole and ask if people would be just as outraged if Mixon were a 2-star who at best might play special teams? Would they feel it was as unjust if he was a UT player? Not sure I'd get honest answers though.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

if he was a ut player, he should be automatically and immediately be banned from Division 1, or whatever the division the major conferences are in.

[BoulderSooner79]

Come on Season
Hells bells guys How many ways can 1/2 say a Man ort never ever never evr hit a Wimmens and the other 1/2 say that Bitch get all up in My grill Ima Pound her.
**** me running lets let this shat go and think about FOOT BALL

I plan to find out :witless:

[Curly Bill]

I'm generalizing - of course there are small people that would be a danger in a fight - women included. But it's unlikely and more unlikely if they are obviously intoxicated (emphasized in every report from both sides). I just doubt people really believe in this self defense stuff. Sure, it's justified by law. But applying Occam's Razor, what is more likely? Mixon really felt threatened --or-- getting slapped in the face really pissed him off? Most guys I know would not feel threatened, but almost all of them would get really pissed. I'm betting that's what happened to Mixon too, but as you say, I don't know.

Of course I could put out a pole and ask if people would be just as outraged if Mixon were a 2-star who at best might play special teams? Would they feel it was as unjust if he was a UT player? Not sure I'd get honest answers though.

I can honestly say I'd feel the same in this case. If he was a whorn I'd still think he was in the right, but I'd hardly give a damn.

[BoulderSooner79]

if he was a ut player, he should be automatically be banned from Division 1, or whatever the division the major conferences are in.

Right answer! :highly_amused:

[bluedogok]

Ah yes, sitting around the campfire, holding hands, singing Give Peace a Chance. Sounds beautiful man.
....or on the stairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_hCqO6UQs

[olevetonahill]

I plan to find out :witless:

Ya found you a Sh1t creek to stick yer paddle in and keep it going huh ?> LOL

[KantoSooner]

**** me running

1) I am haunted by this mental image.
2) I am equally bemused by considering how this might be done.

[olevetonahill]

1) I am haunted by this mental image.
2) I am equally bemused by considering how this might be done.

http://www.olevetpossehideout.com/forums/images/smilies/LOLAlot.gif

[birddog]

Well, that's that. Joe was spotted after practice, supporting the players we will see play this year! Lucky sob may get the privilege of playing football for Oklahoma.

[mainline13]

I think this team knows that it's bigger than any one player, and to win, everyone has to be ready when their name is called.



From your lips to God's ears. Or from your keyboard to God's eyes. Something along those lines.

[Piware]

It was for possession of hydrocodone or some ****

She is probably needing hydrocodone now. Bad for Joe but glad she is off campus permanently.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

So has Molitor or whatever been dismissed from OU?

[birddog]

From reading piwares post it seems she has been.