Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers...

[TheHumanAlphabet]

The sad truth...fueled by the Progressives and dims... (http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/86m-full-time-private-sector-workers-sustain-148m-benefit-takers)

[olevetonahill]

If NOT a revolution then for sure Social collapse.

[TAFBSooner]

The sad truth...fueled by the Progressives and dims... (http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/86m-full-time-private-sector-workers-sustain-148m-benefit-takers)

The bastage apparently counts Jaime Dimon as a producer, and consigns firefighters and our childrens' teachers to some sort of gray area. Jaime Dimon and his ilk are not only takers, but cockroaches (thks, Coach Royal) who have cost the rest of us much more in wealth destruction than even what they've gained by theft.

[Sooner8th]

Does he include Henrique De Castro as a maker or taker? If you don't know about Mr. De Castro, he was hired on at HP at $40m a year and "departed" Yahoo after 15 months. He got a $109 MILLION walking away present for getting fired. When these guys on the right whine and complain about too few full time year around workers in the good 'ol us of a, I wonder how many on the list of "makers" sent American jobs overseas so they could rake in huge salaries and bonuses?

And try to remember under who ramped up government employment, it is actually down around 500,000 since Obama took office.

Please, please, please start a debate about private sector job growth under Obama compared to bush.

http://recode.net/2014/01/15/henrique-de-castro-out-at-yahoo/

[badger]

The sad truth...fueled by the Progressives and dims... (http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/86m-full-time-private-sector-workers-sustain-148m-benefit-takers)

The numbers are big and scary, but I bet that those retired and on Social Security would not be happy to be labeled "takers" as they worked very hard for those benefits. Same with elderly on Medicaid.

In addition, I would venture a very strong guess that some "takers" are also "makers" who qualify for food stamps due to low income, or are working low-income moms who are enrolled in WIC.

I get that we hate the freeloaders that come onto Judge Judy and get exposed as their freeloading selves and get yelled at to find a job and stop making children and being lazy, but that's part of the fun of Judge Judy, hating the freeloaders.

I know that it's scary that we have so many retired people and are bound to have more as baby boomers keep getting older, but this is the way things are. Would you like me to yank the plug on you old farts so you can stop being labeled "takers?" :P

[FaninAma]

I agree. People on Social Security and Medicare are not takers. They payed into the system. If the government wants to give everybody all the money they paid into the system back with interest and shut it down then fine.

Of course there are people on Social Security disability that are probably scamming the system.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

You want to include SS, fine. However, it was never to be meant as "retirement income" it was a help and the system was not intended as retire income, it was a help to ensure people didn't starve or go to the soup lines like in the 1930s. Other than that, SS was designed I believe on 10-15:1 ratio, it is now near a 2:1 ratio. this is not sustainable. I would argue welfare and WIC are misused, illegals and others on it, extension of long term unemployment benefits keeping people from working or accepting less than desirable jobs. at what point do we say we can't afford it anymore? Unfortunately, first ones in get the best... All this is saying we are paying for a lot that we can't today or in the future be able to pay for. Same thing for local employee pensions. There is a storm coming and the end won't be pretty. Cities are likely to go under, hell The Socialist is wanting to give Detroit 100 million in breaks to support their pensions... I fault the unions and politicians for agreeing to unsustainable retirement systems and kicking the can down the road...

[8timechamps]

Does he include Henrique De Castro as a maker or taker? If you don't know about Mr. De Castro, he was hired on at HP at $40m a year and "departed" Yahoo after 15 months. He got a $109 MILLION walking away present for getting fired. When these guys on the right whine and complain about too few full time year around workers in the good 'ol us of a, I wonder how many on the list of "makers" sent American jobs overseas so they could rake in huge salaries and bonuses?

And try to remember under who ramped up government employment, it is actually down around 500,000 since Obama took office.

Please, please, please start a debate about private sector job growth under Obama compared to bush.

http://recode.net/2014/01/15/henrique-de-castro-out-at-yahoo/

So, you think CEO's are exclusively right wingers?

[Sooner8th]

So, you think CEO's are exclusively right wingers?

WOW.....the thread opens with this is the fueled by progressives and DEMS and he has to throw a insult in also. BUT, when I say


When these guys on the right whine and complain about too few full time year around workers in the good 'ol us of a, I wonder how many on the list of "makers" sent American jobs overseas so they could rake in huge salaries and bonuses?

You read into it that I think all CEO's are right wingers. It was a simple question. I know not all CEO's are right wingers, but the republican party is the party of big business.

[Soonerjeepman]

18 of top 50 congress people are dems, 8 of TOP 12.

I'd say "big business" is BOTH parties...

[Sooner8th]

18 of top 50 congress people are dems, 8 of TOP 12.

I'd say "big business" is BOTH parties...

top congress people?

[Soonerjeepman]

figured you want me to be PC...congressmen isn't right since there are women...

but AGAIN, you choose to focus on THAT vs the fact you called pub's "big business" and 8 of the top 12 are dems...I'm sure they don't believe in "big business".

[Sooner8th]

figured you want me to be PC...congressmen isn't right since there are women...

but AGAIN, you choose to focus on THAT vs the fact you called pub's "big business" and 8 of the top 12 are dems...I'm sure they don't believe in "big business".

You are going to deny that the republican party is the party of big business?

[olevetonahill]

You are going to deny that the Democratic party is the party of big Idiots?

:friendly_wink:

[TAFBSooner]

You are going to deny that the republican party is the party of big business?

Both parties are now in the hands of big business. Obama's largest funding source was the Wall Street banksters. He scolds them in public, but defends their ill-gotten gains with his lack of policies (or weak policies). We have Obamacare, a ginormous subsidy for the insurance industry, instead of single payer health care. Strike 3, early in year five of his presidency, he tried to crack open Social Security using the Chained CPI (echoing Bush the Lesser in yr 5 of his presidency).

Republicans are worse, no doubt about it. But both sides are now beholden to the 1%, not the rest of us.

[TAFBSooner]

The numbers are big and scary, but I bet that those retired and on Social Security would not be happy to be labeled "takers" as they worked very hard for those benefits. Same with elderly on Medicaid.

In addition, I would venture a very strong guess that some "takers" are also "makers" who qualify for food stamps due to low income, or are working low-income moms who are enrolled in WIC.

I get that we hate the freeloaders that come onto Judge Judy and get exposed as their freeloading selves and get yelled at to find a job and stop making children and being lazy, but that's part of the fun of Judge Judy, hating the freeloaders.

I know that it's scary that we have so many retired people and are bound to have more as baby boomers keep getting older, but this is the way things are. Would you like me to yank the plug on you old farts so you can stop being labeled "takers?" :P

Of course, if you subtract those with earned benefits like SS and Medicare, and add in government workers to the makers side, the original article's author's point evaporates. He no longer gets to divide us, like the tool of the CEOs that he is.

My plan is to keep working as long as possible so as not to have a respirator to unplug.:mushroom:

[8timechamps]

WOW.....the thread opens with this is the fueled by progressives and DEMS and he has to throw a insult in also. BUT, when I say



You read into it that I think all CEO's are right wingers. It was a simple question. I know not all CEO's are right wingers, but the republican party is the party of big business.

I didn't read anything into it, I asked you a "simple question".

[Soonerjeepman]

You are going to deny that the republican party is the party of big business?

not any more than the dems....the pubs just don't deny it and lay behind a false pretense.

[olevetonahill]

I didn't read anything into it, I asked you a "simple question".

Wait Bro Dint you mention Carter and Teddy ****in Kennedy?

[Sooner8th]

not any more than the dems....the pubs just don't deny it and lay behind a false pretense.

I just proved you have a ton more. Give me a list of names of democratic cheaters that are in congress right now. Conservatives talk the talk only when it's a democrat who cheats.

[olevetonahill]

I just proved you have a ton more. Give me a list of names of democratic cheaters that are in congress right now. Conservatives talk the talk only when it's a democrat who cheats.

Wow, what a dumas!

[Sooner8th]

Wow, what a dumas!

So funny..................I showed you example after example of cheaters in congress that are conservative republicans, now show me a list of democrats in congress that have been caught cheating.

All you have is name calling and insults - no facts no data to back up your ignorant positions.

[BigTip]

I didn't read anything into it, I asked you a "simple question".

Yes, I was surprised at Sooner8th's reaction too. It was a simple question, and he took it as an insult? Strange.
I am surprised he didn't call you a racist.

[olevetonahill]

So funny..................I showed you example after example of cheaters in congress that are conservative republicans, now show me a list of democrats in congress that have been caught cheating.

All you have is name calling and insults - no facts no data to back up your ignorant positions.

I dont wrestle with Ignorant Pigs I shoot them.

Are you really so ****ing stupid as to not have figured that out by now? Im not "SHOWING" you anything. You simply take anything that has been said to you and twist an spin it. Good Jorb arsehole.

[Sooner8th]

I dont wrestle with Ignorant Pigs I shoot them.

Are you really so ****ing stupid as to not have figured that out by now? Im not "SHOWING" you anything. You simply take anything that has been said to you and twist an spin it. Good Jorb arsehole.

You won't show me anything because you can't. You have no facts or data to back up your ignorant positions. All you have is insults and childish school yard taunts. And you think I'm the stupid one.

[olevetonahill]

You won't show me anything because you can't. You have no facts or data to back up your ignorant positions. All you have is insults and childish school yard taunts. And you think I'm the stupid one.

I dont think, I KNOW.

Keep spinning.

[olevetonahill]

Heh
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[Sooner8th]

Heh
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNKDEGZi2p2RQNI9PAM606UDFW8_Cub 6ug_7pYTdJMiav2awdc

Thank you AGAIN for making my argument for me.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

(another)GREAT thread!

[olevetonahill]

Thank you AGAIN for making my argument for me.

I guess in yer little spin world it depends on what your definition of IS, IS
and you didnt have Sex with that woman. Moran.

[yermom]

i think the key here is to unplug grandma and any single mothers, surely not to increase the number of full-time private sector workers

how many people work less than 35 hours a week by choice? it's not like working part-time exempts you from taxes.

the point is that the corporation is not your friend. they don't care about the country. the people running them don't even care about the corporation. they only care about their bonus this quarter, or their golden parachute deal. if replacing you with 3 people from India is better for the bottom line, you are gone.

they do however have your congress people in their pocket.

i'll rephrase the question from eariler... what is a "top" congress person?

[hawaii 5-0]

So where do the 10% of veterans who can't find jobs and are on foodstamps fall ? Are they worthless as well ?


5-0

[yermom]

veterans and grandmas are the 47%

i say we cut them all off

[olevetonahill]

veterans and grandmas are the 47%

i say we cut them all off

They both about worthless, we should just take em to the Land fill and dump em.

[diverdog]

The premise that workers will revolt is laughable. They have to much to lose. The problem will be unemployed youth and income disparity. When those get to be too painful that is when people revolt. Revolutions are always started by the young.

To advert this we have to have job creation and fair trade agreememts.

[Sooner8th]

I guess in yer little spin world it depends on what your definition of IS, IS
and you didnt have Sex with that woman. Moran.

I can't bring up bush but you can bring up clinton. dumbass.

Sanford was hiking on the Appalachian Trail.

[olevetonahill]

I can't bring up bush but you can bring up clinton. dumbass.

Sanford was hiking on the Appalachian Trail.

****in 1st class Moran!

I refuse to even talk with you about serious stuff for the simple reason . that you are a Lib spin master!
If I say God is Love, then say Love is blind, yer ignorant asz will then accuse me of saying Stevie Wonder is God.
Go play spin the Bottle with some one else.

[olevetonahill]

The premise that workers will revolt is laughable. They have to much to lose. The problem will be unemployed youth and income disparity. When those get to be too painful that is when people revolt. Revolutions are always started by the young.

To advert this we have to have job creation and fair trade agreememts.

I agree DD the workers wont revolt, We just collapse as a society from all the burdens. Yes we Need Job creation But thats Not gonna happen when the Far Left Libs keep giving away the farm.

[Sooner8th]

****in 1st class Moran!

I refuse to even talk with you about serious stuff for the simple reason . that you are a Lib spin master!
If I say God is Love, then say Love is blind, yer ignorant asz will then accuse me of saying Stevie Wonder is God.
Go play spin the Bottle with some one else.

How is pointing out your hypocrisy spin? The reason you refuse to talk to me about serious stuff is that I don't agree with you and I can back me positions up with facts, you can't. Your analogy makes no sense. When I show you that you're wrong or point out your hypocrisy, you're only weak *** defense is to scream LIBERAL and accuse me of spinning.

I busted your ignorant hypocritical *** and you know it.

[diverdog]

I agree DD the workers wont revolt, We just collapse as a society from all the burdens. Yes we Need Job creation But thats Not gonna happen when the Far Left Libs keep giving away the farm.

One is the symptom of the other. We have a real mess in this country because the economic policies of both parties suck. We need to look at incenting companies to invest and move their capital back to the US. Open up energy production and start bringing manufacturing back to the states.

[olevetonahill]

How is pointing out your hypocrisy spin? The reason you refuse to talk to me about serious stuff is that I don't agree with you and I can back me positions up with facts, you can't. Your analogy makes no sense. When I show you that you're wrong or point out your hypocrisy, you're only weak *** defense is to scream LIBERAL and accuse me of spinning.

I busted your ignorant hypocritical *** and you know it.

Ok you win http://www.olevetpossehideout.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif, ****in Moran.

[Sooner8th]

Ok you win http://www.olevetpossehideout.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif, ****in Moran.


Typical, won't tell me how pointing out your hypocrisy is spin, but can resort to name calling. It's like I'm trying to reason with a petulant, foul mouthed six year old.

[olevetonahill]

Typical, won't tell me how pointing out your hypocrisy is spin, but can resort to name calling. It's like I'm trying to reason with a petulant, foul mouthed six year old.

Dont you have one of thos especial ed. Egg hunts you need to get to? Hope you find the prize egg.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Dont you have one of thos especial ed. Egg hunts you need to get to? Hope you find the prize egg.Midtowner and Marfac are looking for a third party to form the Three Marxcateers. He is a qualifier.

[olevetonahill]

Midtowner and Marfac are looking for a third party to form the Three Marxcateers. He is a qualifier.

Three Stooges be more like it.:friendly_wink:

[OU68]

One is the symptom of the other. We have a real mess in this country because the economic policies of both parties suck. We need to look at incenting companies to invest and move their capital back to the US. Open up energy production and start bringing manufacturing back to the states.

Good thoughts, but opening up energy production is never going to happen under Obama/Clinton. Manufacturing isn't coming back as long as CEO/CFO can get it done for a fraction by sending it overseas. Hate it, but it is what it is.