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milesl
1/8/2014, 01:33 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/78568/way-too-early-big-12-power-poll

Have you noticed a drop off in talent/coaching at Baylor ? Milesl


Way-Too-Early 2014 Big 12 power poll
January, 7, 2014
Jan 7
11:00
AM ET
By Jake Trotter | ESPN.com



Immediately after the national championship game, colleague Mark Schlabach released his Way-Too-Early Top 25. In concert, below is our Way-Too-Early Big 12 power poll. This could change between now and the end of the spring. In fact, it probably will. But this is a first look at how the Big 12 teams stack up against one another for 2014:

1. Oklahoma Sooners

In the Allstate Sugar Bowl, freshman Trevor Knight finally played like the quarterback that had been drawing comparisons to Johnny Manziel behind Oklahoma’s closed practices. The Sooners lose some cornerstone players to graduation, notably running back Brennan Clay, center Gabe Ikard, receiver Jalen Saunders and cornerback Aaron Colvin. But with Knight and budding running back Keith Ford returning to man the backfield, and nine starters coming back defensively, including menacing outside linebacker Eric Striker, Oklahoma could be a favorite in every game next season -- and a force once again on the national stage.

2. Baylor Bears

Even with running back Lache Seastrunk going pro, the Bears return plenty of firepower offensively. Bryce Petty will be the reigning All-Big 12 quarterback, and Antwan Goodley will be coming off a monster junior season. Rising sophomore Shock Linwood showed he could shoulder the rushing load, too, when Seastrunk and Glasco Martin were banged up late in the season. The Bears, however, could take a step back defensively. Baylor, which got torched for 52 points in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, loses six starters there, including All-American safety Ahmad Dixon and All-Big 12 linebacker Eddie Lackey. Former blue-chip defensive tackle recruit Andrew Billings will need to step up and become more of a force. Even if the defense stumbles, Baylor should be capable of scoring enough points to win every game on its schedule, thanks to coach Art Briles being back on its sidelines.

3. Kansas State Wildcats

Along with Missouri, the Wildcats were the first two teams left out of Schlabach’s Top 25. But they make a compelling case for inclusion. Quarterback Jake Waters improved dramatically during the second half of the season, eventually squeezing Daniel Sams out of the QB rotation. Wideout Tyler Lockett could be a preseason All-American, after torching Texas, Oklahoma and Michigan for a combined 631 receiving yards and six touchdowns. The defense should be better, too, with sack artist Ryan Mueller back at end, and rising junior safety Dante Barnett set to take over for the outgoing Ty Zimmerman as leader of the secondary. The Wildcats will be tested early with national runner-up Auburn visiting Manhattan on Sept. 20. If K-State can win that game, the rest of the Big 12 will be on notice.

4. Texas Longhorns

During his introductory news conference on Monday, new Texas coach Charlie Strong said Mack Brown left him with a team that could win right away. Strong might be right. The Longhorns return eight starters off a defense that found its stride under interim coordinator Greg Robinson. Texas also brings back six starters offensively and its entire running back corps, including Malcolm Brown, who rushed for more than 100 yards in the Valero Alamo Bowl. A big part of Mack Brown’s downfall, however, was quarterback play, and that once again will be a huge question mark in Strong’s first season. David Ash sat out most of this season with concussion issues, making his football future tenuous. Tyrone Swoopes is athletic with a big arm but needs polish. The other option will be incoming freshman Jerrod Heard, who just led his high school team to a Texas state championship. If one of those three emerges, Strong could have Texas on the way back ahead of schedule.

5. Oklahoma State Cowboys

The Cowboys were 19 seconds away from playing in a BCS bowl game. But two losses to end the year soured what could have been a stellar season. Now, Oklahoma State must replace the bulk of its team, including quarterback Clint Chelf and seven starters defensively. Star slot receiver Josh Stewart is also reportedly mulling over leaving early, too. Either way, 2014 will be a retooling season for coach Mike Gundy, whose first order of business will be settling on a quarterback. J.W. Walsh, who started the first half of the season before losing the job back to Chelf, would have to be considered the favorite. But Gundy has shown before he’s not afraid of turning the keys of the offense to a true freshman, and the Cowboys have an intriguing freshman QB enrolling for the spring in Mason Rudolph, who threw 64 touchdown passes this fall as a high school senior in South Carolina. That could result in some growing pains for Oklahoma State, which opens the season against defending national champion Florida State. But if Rudolph proves to be the long-term answer at QB, it shouldn’t be more than a year before the Cowboys are contending in the Big 12 again.

6. Texas Tech Red Raiders

Texas Tech completely changed the tenor of its offseason with a dominating 37-23 win over Pac-12 South Division champ Arizona State in the National University Holiday Bowl. Finally healthy again, the Red Raiders showed they were better than a five-game losing streak to end the regular season indicated. Now, Tech returns eight starters offensively, including quarterback Davis Webb, who torched the Sun Devils and had several other encouraging moments as a true freshman. Tech has to replace most of its defense. But if Webb settles in at quarterback, the Red Raiders should be improved in coach Kliff Kingsbury’s second season in Lubbock.

7. TCU Horned Frogs

TCU was the 2013 preseason pick of many people to win the Big 12. Instead, injuries ravaged the roster, and the Horned Frogs failed to go to a bowl game for just second time with Gary Patterson as coach. Patterson shook up his offensive staff after the season, bringing in Houston’s Doug Meacham and Texas Tech’s Sonny Cumbie as co-coordinators to revamp TCU’s offensive attack. TCU should be stout again defensively, especially if 2012 Big 12 defensive freshman of the year Devonte Fields returns to form from a broken foot. But the key to a better season will be whether Meacham and Cumbie can squeeze more offense out of the Horned Frogs and find the answer at quarterback. The answer, however, might not be on campus yet. Trevone Boykin has 15 career QB starts, but is probably a better fit as a receiver. Meanwhile, TCU’s top incoming recruits, Foster Sawyer and Grayson Muehlstein, are both quarterbacks, and could factor into the wide-open competition.

8. Iowa State Cyclones

Even though Iowa State just finished in the bottom three of the Big 12 in points per game (24.8), yards per game (363), yards per play (4.82), rushing yards (143.8) and passing yards (219.2), the Cyclones return some offensive firepower. Tailback Aaron Wimberly was effective when healthy, and Quenton Bundrage flashed signs of a legit No. 1 receiver. The key will be QB, and whether Grant Rohach builds on his late-season surge. But with a proven offensive coordinator in Mark Mangino now on board, the Cyclones have the pieces to form one of the better offenses in the league next season.

9. West Virginia Mountaineers

The Mountaineers careened off the road late this season with back-to-back losses to Kansas and Iowa State. Now, the pressure is on coach Dana Holgorsen, who will have to win games to keep his job even though the 2014 schedule is brutal. Like so many other teams in the Big 12, West Virginia must find a solution at quarterback. Holgorsen has options. Clint Trickett, Paul Millard and Ford Childress are all back after getting at least two starts apiece last year. Junior-college transfer Skyler Howard will be enrolling early and joining the fray. Four-star recruit William Crest will be in the mix, too. Even if Holgorsen finds his answer at quarterback, a winning season won’t come easy. The Mountaineers have one of the toughest schedules in the country, beginning with the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game against Alabama in Atlanta.

10. Kansas Jayhawks

Kansas showed only modest improvement in Charlie Weis’ second season as head coach. This will be a key season for Weis as he attempts to rebuild the program. He desperately needs Montell Cozart to develop into the answer at quarterback. Cozart still has a ways to go with his passing, but he showed he could hurt defenses with his legs. Defensively, the Jayhawks bring back some solid players, notably linebackers Ben Goodman and Ben Heeney and safety Isaiah Johnson. But Kansas will take the next step only if Cozart -- or somebody else -- emerges at quarterback.

Mac94
1/8/2014, 02:03 PM
Sounds about right for now. OU and Baylor in the discussion for the conference championship then everyone else.

sooneron
1/8/2014, 02:19 PM
Wait a minute!!! KSU scheduled SOMEONE!!!!???!

boomer8390
1/8/2014, 02:20 PM
And the love affair with the SEC continues. 8 teams from the SEC in his Way Too Early Top 25.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10246704/florida-state-leads-2014-way-too-early-top-25-rankings

swardboy
1/8/2014, 02:23 PM
And the love affair with the SEC continues. 8 teams from the SEC in his Way Too Early Top 25.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10246704/florida-state-leads-2014-way-too-early-top-25-rankings

Hey, we play Texas in Dallas this year!

sooneron
1/8/2014, 02:25 PM
And the love affair with the SEC continues. 8 teams from the SEC in his Way Too Early Top 25.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10246704/florida-state-leads-2014-way-too-early-top-25-rankings

Yep, ATM at #16 is a stretch, a big one! No JJF or Evans. Now we see if Sumlin is as good as billed.

And does this sound like a team that is picked to be #13?

If the :****: are going to do it in 2014, they'll have to replace a lot of star power on both sides of the ball.

sooneron
1/8/2014, 02:27 PM
Hey, we play Texas in Dallas this year!

Rillay?!!?

badger
1/8/2014, 02:28 PM
Yep, ATM at #16 is a stretch, a big one! No JJF or Evans. Now we see if Sumlin is as good as billed.

And does this sound like a team that is picked to be #13?

They also lose a top o-lineman for the second year in a row... and their defense probably exists barely more than their kicking game once again.


And the love affair with the SEC continues. 8 teams from the SEC in his Way Too Early Top 25.
It's hard being a pollster... you can't rank all 14

boomer8390
1/8/2014, 02:38 PM
His take on Bama:

"The Crimson Tide finished the 2013 season with consecutive losses, and their 45-31 loss to Oklahoma in the Allstate Sugar Bowl exposed concerns about their offensive line and secondary"

Lol you think?!? Was it the seven sacks?

Mac94
1/8/2014, 02:40 PM
And the love affair with the SEC continues. 8 teams from the SEC in his Way Too Early Top 25.

ESPN has huge reason to push the SEC as they gear for the launch of the SEC Network in August. ESPN is the conferences partner in the launch of the new network so pimping the SEC is in it's financial interests. A&Ms first game of the season will be on Thursday August 28th at S. Carolina on the new network and ESPN will spend the offseason talking about the SEC in its college football shows.

Mac94
1/8/2014, 02:45 PM
Also ... as for his rankings ... Florida shouldn't be ranked and A&M and Georgia are to high ... but Missouri is left out completely. The SEC will have 7 to 8 teams in the preseason rankings going into 2014

Mac94
1/8/2014, 02:53 PM
Another reason why the SEC isn;t going away ... recruiting.

247 sports has 9 SEC schools in its top 25 classes of 2014 ... 6 in the top 10
Rivals has 9 SEC schools in its top 25 classes of 2014 ... also 6 in the top 10
ESPN has 9 SEC schools in its top 25 classes of 2014 ... 7 in the top 10

Bourbon St Sooner
1/8/2014, 05:05 PM
Mods, can we modify SEC so it becomes 45-31 every time someone types it?

boomer8390
1/8/2014, 05:09 PM
Last 4 years for Duke recruiting:

2010- 72
2011- 77
2012- 52
2013- 68

Not to say that there isn't some weight in recruiting rankings, but it's not everything.

boomer8390
1/8/2014, 05:12 PM
Mods, can we modify SEC so it becomes 45-31 every time someone types it?

^ THIS!^ lol I second this movement

Wishboned
1/8/2014, 05:17 PM
Also ... as for his rankings ... Florida shouldn't be ranked and A&M and Georgia are to high ... but Missouri is left out completely. The SEC will have 7 to 8 teams in the preseason rankings going into 2014

When isn't Georgia ranked too high in the preseason?

badger
1/8/2014, 05:22 PM
Mods, can we modify SEC so it becomes 45-31 every time someone types it?

As fun as that idea is, our word filter has, in the past, resulted in some links being broken. :(

Salt City Sooner
1/8/2014, 05:27 PM
Wait a minute!!! KSU scheduled SOMEONE!!!!???!

Scheduled under Prince (as were the UCLA & Miami sets).

BoulderSooner79
1/8/2014, 05:40 PM
Way-too-Early? It's been almost 2 full days since the season ended!

mainline13
1/8/2014, 05:43 PM
Mods, can we modify SEC so it becomes 45-31 every time someone types it?

If there are any hackers out there who like a challenge, maybe you could do this on all the SEC's boards.

SoCalBigRed
1/8/2014, 07:05 PM
Mods, can we modify SEC so it becomes 45-31 every time someone types it?

I'm a third.

Can we get a vote now? :bull_head:

Bourbon St Sooner
1/9/2014, 10:11 AM
As fun as that idea is, our word filter has, in the past, resulted in some links being broken. :(

Heh, duly noted. It's just when mac typed sec 500 times in this thread, all I saw was 45 - 31 and I wanted everyone to share my bliss. I think it would be cool to do through August. Then another season starts and it's time to let it go and get back to business. Especially since we have another SEC team to beat down next September:)

Mac94
1/9/2014, 10:22 AM
45 - 31, 45 - 31, 45 - 31 !!! Hey .... wait a minute! ;)

Mac94
1/9/2014, 10:28 AM
And for the record ... I didn't start the 45 - 31 talk ... and only typed 45 - 31 nine times in three post. ;)

Bourbon St Sooner
1/9/2014, 01:20 PM
I like the way you think Mac.

SoCalBigRed
1/9/2014, 04:10 PM
SEC

@#$%! :smiley_simmons:

oupride
1/10/2014, 07:10 AM
Texas could be higher.

FaninAma
1/10/2014, 09:19 AM
OU's home schedule is an important reason they should be favored for the Big 12 title next year:
OSU, Baylor, KSU all at home.
Under Stoops OU has won or shared the conference title in every even numbered year.

Flagstaffsooner
1/11/2014, 11:28 AM
How about every time espn says sec there is a fart noise?

Plexis22
1/11/2014, 05:18 PM
OU's home schedule is an important reason they should be favored for the Big 12 title next year:
OSU, Baylor, KSU all at home.
Under Stoops OU has won or shared the conference title in every even numbered year.

Tech will be toughest road game, on Nov. 15. There is also the Big 12 opener in Morgantown on Sep. 27 which could be difficult, I'm hoping the OSU game (in Norman) is Thanksgiving weekend.

rock on sooner
1/11/2014, 06:47 PM
Tech will be toughest road game, on Nov. 15. There is also the Big 12 opener in Morgantown on Sep. 27 which could be difficult, I'm hoping the OSU game (in Norman) is Thanksgiving weekend.

I'm guessing teevee will move the game to first week in Dec, especially
if the conference title is in the balance...

Jacie
1/11/2014, 07:58 PM
Did Holgerson's team find a defense or settle on a QB already?

Given their relative lack of success since joining the Big XII, I am surprised there has not been a move by WV to join the ACC.