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badger
12/2/2013, 09:34 AM
Welcome to Black Monday, the day when coaches that didn't get their teams to championship week are canned to please boosters, alumni, recruits, and potential future coaches.

Post em (with links if you can) as you see em. I'll try to keep a master list in this post.

NFL coaching changes:

Cleveland Browns (fired Rob Chudzinski Dec. 29 (http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/browns-fire-coach-rob-chudzinski-21364911))
Detroit Lions (fired Jim Schwartz Dec. 30 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10215190/jim-schwartz-fired-detroit-lions-head-coach))
Houston Texans (Fired Gary Kubiak on Dec. 6 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/texans/2013/12/06/gary-kubiak-fired-coach-houston/3891633/); hired Penn State's Bill O'Brien Dec. 31 (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24394043/texans-to-hire-penn-states-bill-obrien-as-new-coach))
Minnesota Vikings (fired Leslie Frazier Dec. 30 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10214415/minnesota-vikings-announce-leslie-frazier-head-coach))
Tampa Bay Bucs (fired Greg Schiano Dec. 30 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10215139/greg-schiano-general-manager-mark-dominik-fired-tampa-bay-buccaneers); hired Lovie Smith Jan. 1 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/buccaneers/2014/01/01/lovie-smith-tampa-bay-buccaneers/4283013/))
Tennessee Titans (fired Mike Muchak Jan. 4 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10242606/mike-munchak-fired-tennessee-titans))
Washington Redskins (fired Mike Shannahan Dec. 30 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10209546/mike-shanahan-expected-fired-washington-redskins); hired Bengals OC Jay Gruden Jan. 9 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10267454/washington-redskins-hire-jay-gruden-coach))

College changes:

Arkansas State (Bryan Harsin hired by Boise State Dec. 11 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10118356/bryan-harsin-head-coach-boise-state-broncos); hires UNC OC Blake Anderson on Dec. 19 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10163937/arkansas-state-red-wolves-hires-blake-anderson-new-coach))
Army (Rich Ellerson fired Dec. 15 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10143713/army-black-knights-fire-coach-rich-ellerson-five-years); hired former Navy assistant, Georgia Southern coach Jeff Monken Dec. 24 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10191279/army-black-knights-hire-jeff-monken-georgia-southern-eagles-coach))
Boise State (Chris Petersen hired by Washington Dec. 6 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/12/06/chris-petersen-goes-to-washington-huskies-leaves-boise-state/3889233/); hired Arkansas State's Bryan Harsin Dec. 11 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10118356/bryan-harsin-head-coach-boise-state-broncos))
Bowling Green (Dave Clawson hired by Wake Forest Dec. 9 (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24370572/bowling-green-coach-dave-clawson-to-be-named-head-coach-at-wake-forest); hired Eastern Illinois' Dino Babers Dec. 18 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10159860/dino-babers-hired-coach-bowling-green-falcons))
Eastern Illinois (Bowling Green hired Dino Babers Dec. 18 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10159860/dino-babers-hired-coach-bowling-green-falcons))
Eastern Michigan (Fired Ron English in November (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9950723/eastern-michigan-eagles-say-coach-ron-english-fired-language-used); hires Drake's Chris Creighton Dec. 11 (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sbnation/SBNation_20131211_Eastern_Michigan_hires_Drake_s_C hris_Creighton_as_head_football_coach.html) )
FAU (Resignation/Firing Carl Pelini October-November (http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/11/26/fau-withdraws-carl-pelini-resignation-fires-him-instead-for-not-reporting/); hires Arky assistant Charlie Partridge Dec. 18 (http://college-football.si.com/2013/12/17/fau-hires-charlie-partridge/))
Georgia Southern (Jeff Monken hired by Army Dec. 24 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10191279/army-black-knights-hire-jeff-monken-georgia-southern-eagles-coach))
Grambling (A lot of stuff happened, but head coach Doug Williams was fired in November (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/doug-williams-fired-as-grambling-state-coach-mulls-return-to-nfl/2013/11/13/68047774-47d0-11e3-95a9-3f15b5618ba8_story.html); they appear to have hired a permanent replacement in Broderick Fobbs on Dec. 4 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10078635/broderick-fobbs-named-head-coach-grambling-state-tigers))
Miami Ohio (Fired Dan Treadwell after 5 games, hired Notre Dame assistant Chuck Martin on Dec. 4 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10073320/chuck-martin-coach-miami-ohio-redhawks))
North Dakota State (Craig Bohl hired by Wyoming Dec. 9 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10102186/craig-bohl-else-coach-north-dakota-state-bison); hires defensive coordinator Chris Klieman Dec. 15 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/12/15/chris-klieman-north-dakota-state-football-coach/4031073/))
Louisville (Texas hires Charlie Strong Jan. 4 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10245341/charlie-strong-informs-louisville-cardinals-ad-taking-texas-longhorns-job); hires WKU's Bobby Petrino Jan. 9 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10263027/louisville-cardinals-offer-job-bobby-petrino))
Penn State (Bill OBrien hired by Houston Texans Dec. 31 (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24394043/texans-to-hire-penn-states-bill-obrien-as-new-coach))
Texas (Mack Brown resigns Dec. 14 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/12/15/mack-brown-steps-down-from-texas-with-class/4034297/); hires Louisville's Charlie Strong Jan. (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10245341/charlie-strong-informs-louisville-cardinals-ad-taking-texas-longhorns-job)4)
UConn (Fired Paul Pasqualoni in September (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9747760/paul-pasqualoni-fired-connecticut-huskies-football-coach); hired Notre Dame assistant Bob Diaco Dec. 12 (http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ap-source-uconn-hires-notre-dames-bob-diaco-21187677) )
USC (Fired Lane Kiffin in September (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/9742627/usc-trojans-fire-coach-lane-kiffin-3-2-start-blowout-loss); Hired Washington's Steve Sarkisian Dec. 2 (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/usc-trojans-hire-steve-sarkisian-head-coach-120213))
Wake Forest (Jim Grobe resigns Dec. 2 (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24315371/wake-forest-coach-jim-grobe-to-resign-after-13-seasons); Bowling Green's Dave Clawson hired Dec. 9 (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24370572/bowling-green-coach-dave-clawson-to-be-named-head-coach-at-wake-forest))
Washington (Steve Sarkisian takes USC job Dec. 2 (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/usc-trojans-hire-steve-sarkisian-head-coach-120213); Boise State's Petersen hired Dec. 6) (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/12/06/chris-petersen-goes-to-washington-huskies-leaves-boise-state/3889233/)
Western Kentucky (Bobby Petrino hired by Louisville Jan. 9 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10263027/louisville-cardinals-offer-job-bobby-petrino); promoted OC Jeff Brohm on Jan. 10 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10273845/jeff-brohm-hired-coach-western-kentucky-hilltoppers))
Wyoming (Fired Dave Christiansen on Dec. 1 (http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ap-source-christensen-wyoming-coach-21063451); hired NDSU's Craig Bohl Dec. 9 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10102186/craig-bohl-else-coach-north-dakota-state-bison))

NEW FEATURE! I am bolding jobs that are reportedly still open, and unbolding ones that are filled

Mac94
12/2/2013, 09:47 AM
Looks like Muschamp will be back at FLorida ... today they fired the OC Brent Pease in the traditional sacrificing of a coordinator. http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10063632/florida-gators-fire-embattled-brent-pease

Mac94
12/2/2013, 09:48 AM
Same at Iowa St as Paul Rhodes looks to return after OC is fired http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10064660/iowa-state-cyclones-fire-offensive-coordinator-courtney-messingham-running-backs-coach-kenith-pope

Mac94
12/2/2013, 09:50 AM
Looks like USC is officially looking although Ed could still get the job. May want to ad them ... http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10065898/usc-trojans-top-candidates-james-franklin-chris-petersen-sources-say

badger
12/2/2013, 10:13 AM
Looks like USC is officially looking although Ed could still get the job. May want to ad them ... http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10065898/usc-trojans-top-candidates-james-franklin-chris-petersen-sources-say

Did I miss any other midseason firings besides those listed? Kiffin is now up there :)

It would make sense for USC to search. They're too proud to go with interim, unless they don't get a suitable suitor this offseason. Then they might give Coach O another trial run next season

cvsooner
12/2/2013, 02:10 PM
UCLA let its running backs coach go today.

Salt City Sooner
12/2/2013, 02:23 PM
Looks like Sark to USC:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10068739/usc-trojans-hire-steve-sarkisian-washington-huskies-new-football-coach

cvsooner
12/2/2013, 03:35 PM
Which means an opening at Washington, if true.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
12/2/2013, 04:29 PM
Looks like Sark to USC:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10068739/usc-trojans-hire-steve-sarkisian-washington-huskies-new-football-coachWould expect for him to keep Orgeron on the staff/

EatLeadCommie
12/2/2013, 04:30 PM
Grobe resigned from Wake Forest.

BoulderSooner79
12/2/2013, 05:02 PM
Looks like Sark to USC:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10068739/usc-trojans-hire-steve-sarkisian-washington-huskies-new-football-coach


Would expect for him to keep Orgeron on the staff/

They're getting the Pete Carroll band back together! They should bring L. Kiffen back as water boy.

badger
12/2/2013, 05:18 PM
I'm seeing some very plausible reports of Sark going to SC so I'm just gonna go ahead and post it now. I know that Bob Stoops never went to Notre Dame despite *reports* but this seems different.

After going up to Seattle for the OU-Warsh game a few years ago, I can't understand why UW can't retain a coach for very long or have some success up there. Their fans love their team, Seattle is a kick arse town to go to college in... is it Mike Leach at Wazzu? This move definitely bodes well for Leach's Wazzu to keep moving up

SicEmBaylor
12/2/2013, 05:18 PM
Looks like Muschamp will be back at FLorida ... today they fired the OC Brent Pease in the traditional sacrificing of a coordinator. http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10063632/florida-gators-fire-embattled-brent-pease

Pease used to be our OC under GuyMo until he was replaced with Lee Hays. Pease was a much much better OC than Hays was.

westbrooke
12/2/2013, 05:39 PM
Would expect for him to keep Orgeron on the staff/

Pride's a bitch. (http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/02/usc-ed-orgeron-resigns-passed-over-for-job/?eref=sihp) Orgeron probably has better prospects now than he did before his interim stint, but I'm still not convinced he'll do better than to stay on as an assistant at USC.

stoops the eternal pimp
12/2/2013, 05:42 PM
nm...

NorthernIowaSooner
12/2/2013, 05:52 PM
Would expect for him to keep Orgeron on the staff/

He has now resigned from USC http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24315395/report-usc-interim-coach-ed-orgeron-resigns-will-not-coach-bowl

Mad he didn't get the head gig.

8timechamps
12/2/2013, 06:12 PM
He has now resigned from USC http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24315395/report-usc-interim-coach-ed-orgeron-resigns-will-not-coach-bowl

Mad he didn't get the head gig.

He was pretty vocal about his desire to be the HC, and all but said he would resign if he didn't get the gig.

If only there was a way for Stoops to bring him to OU...the man is among the best recruiters in the country...he's just not a head coach.

JiuJitsuSooner
12/2/2013, 06:26 PM
I'm seeing some very plausible reports of Sark going to SC so I'm just gonna go ahead and post it now. I know that Bob Stoops never went to Notre Dame despite *reports* but this seems different.

After going up to Seattle for the OU-Warsh game a few years ago, I can't understand why UW can't retain a coach for very long or have some success up there. Their fans love their team, Seattle is a kick arse town to go to college in... is it Mike Leach at Wazzu? This move definitely bodes well for Leach's Wazzu to keep moving up

Seattle is a great town during the summer, and has a lot to offer, but the people are really F'n strange and it's depressing to live there year round, always overcast and light drizzling rain for months, just wet.. I lived there for 5years, and could wait to leave... Now I will only go back July-Sept...

Scott D
12/2/2013, 06:39 PM
I'm seeing some very plausible reports of Sark going to SC so I'm just gonna go ahead and post it now. I know that Bob Stoops never went to Notre Dame despite *reports* but this seems different.

After going up to Seattle for the OU-Warsh game a few years ago, I can't understand why UW can't retain a coach for very long or have some success up there. Their fans love their team, Seattle is a kick arse town to go to college in... is it Mike Leach at Wazzu? This move definitely bodes well for Leach's Wazzu to keep moving up

Sark went to Washington just to add Head Coach to his resume, word is he was super pissed when Garrett brought back Kiffin to be the HC instead of going after him.

NorthernIowaSooner
12/2/2013, 07:43 PM
Sark went to Washington just to add Head Coach to his resume, word is he was super pissed when Garrett brought back Kiffin to be the HC instead of going after him.

This is from an ESPN article:

Lane Kiffin only became USC's coach in 2010 because Steve Sarkisian didn't want to leave Washington. "It wasn't the time," he told me.
Sounds as though he may have had a shot the first time, maybe this is just posturing to make the story sound good.

BoulderSooner79
12/2/2013, 07:58 PM
Lane Kiffin only became USC's coach in 2010 because Steve Sarkisian didn't want to leave Washington. "It wasn't the time," he told me.

"It wasn't the time" as in "I'll wait until the draconian sanctions that sink the next coach have expired, then I'll move in." Sometimes a plan does come together.

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/2/2013, 09:23 PM
He was pretty vocal about his desire to be the HC, and all but said he would resign if he didn't get the gig.

If only there was a way for Stoops to bring him to OU...the man is among the best recruiters in the country...he's just not a head coach.

Except for that whole recruiting violation thing that seems to follow him around.

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/2/2013, 09:24 PM
btw, badg UConn fired their coach in September as well (pasqueloni or something)

8timechamps
12/2/2013, 09:39 PM
Except for that whole recruiting violation thing that seems to follow him around.

You know, as much as I follow recruiting, you'd think I would have realized that before posting. Orgeron's time at Ole Miss seems like a lifetime ago (and it wasn't that long ago), yet I completely forgot.

Yeah, on second thought, Coach O may be better off at North Carolina...they seem to be open to coaches with a jaded recruiting past.

olevetonahill
12/2/2013, 10:40 PM
May USC rot in Hell !

bluedogok
12/2/2013, 10:58 PM
After going up to Seattle for the OU-Warsh game a few years ago, I can't understand why UW can't retain a coach for very long or have some success up there. Their fans love their team, Seattle is a kick arse town to go to college in... is it Mike Leach at Wazzu? This move definitely bodes well for Leach's Wazzu to keep moving up
Don James was there forever, it seems like everyone since has been a temp for one reason or another....but then look at the list of names, not exactly great hires for the most part.

1975-1992 Don James
1993-1998 Jim Lambright
1999-2002 Rick Neuheisel
2003-2004 Keith Gilbertson
2005-2008 Tyrone Willingham
2009-2013 Steve Sarkisian

Salt City Sooner
12/3/2013, 12:48 AM
btw, badg UConn fired their coach in September as well (pasqueloni or something)
Couldn't believe they hired him in the first place; talk about a re-tread. FWIW, he took over for Macpherson at Syracuse & was the HC when Blanton beat them w/ that last second FG in '94.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
12/3/2013, 12:52 AM
May USC rot in Hell !Hear! Hear!

#4 on my sh*t list.:grumpy:

badger
12/3/2013, 10:20 AM
"It wasn't the time" as in "I'll wait until the draconian sanctions that sink the next coach have expired, then I'll move in." Sometimes a plan does come together.

Pretty much.

I've added UConn as a midseason firing, as well as Grambling, just because it was bizarre and I wouldn't be surprised if someone we've heard of tries to help that program (a former NFL player, perhaps?)

Jacie
12/3/2013, 11:23 AM
Ed Orgeron resigns at USC after Steve Sarkisian is hired as head coach

Nick Bromberg
By Nick Bromberg
Dr. Saturday

Ed Orgeron's reign as USC's coach is over.

After the school hired Steve Sarkisian to be its next coach, Orgeron tendered his resignation. Per ESPN, he was not pleased that he was passed over for the job.

Orgeron was "outraged" by athletic director Pat Haden's decision, even though Haden offered to make Orgeron an assistant head coach and one of the nation's highest paid assistants, according to the source.

Orgeron became a deserving candidate with his success as USC's interim coach after Lane Kiffin was fired. Under Orgeron, USC was 5-2. Orgeron's Trojans beat Stanford, but those losses came to rivals Notre Dame and UCLA, the latter coming in a 35-14 blowout on Saturday. Did that have any impact on his fate?

Some Trojans were visibly saddened about Orgeron's departure after a meeting.

Several #USC players emerge from McKay Center with tears rolling down their cheeks.
— Gary Klein (@LATimesklein) December 2, 2013

As the discussion surrounding USC's next coach intensified, the possibility of Orgeron staying as an assistant if he didn't receive the job was bandied about. However, it wasn't seriously considered as realistic given the awkwardness that would likely unfold. USC's players loved Orgeron and the stark departure that he was from his predecessor Kiffin. How so? He brought back dessert and brought in fast food.

Offensive coordinator Clay Helton is expected to coach the Trojans in the bowl game before Sarkisian takes over. Helton assumed the playcalling duties after Kiffin's firing.

badger
12/3/2013, 12:42 PM
I know that there's been feel good stories about Coach O as of late, how he actually takes the time to tell players he loves them this go-around and they had a winning streak and ended the season with 9 wins... but USC surely remembered the old Coach O when they made this decision.

You know, the Coach O that was telling Tennessee's recruits to not enroll in school (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/01/orgeron-contacts-with-tennessee-recruits-still-under-scrutiny/1#.Up4WNCfnfTo) so that they could go to USC instead in the room next door to where Lane Kiffin was telling players bye-bye

The Coach O that reportedly ripped his shirt off talking about the wild boys (http://loserwithsocks.blogspot.com/2006/09/ed-orgeron-is-french-for-bat****-crazy.html)

The Coach O who blew a 14-0 lead in the Egg Bowl (http://blog.al.com/live/2007/11/orgeron_fired_at_ole_miss.html) which prompted his Ole Miss firing.

The Coach O who sells Hummers incoherently:
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USC is out of your league, Coach O. I bet his age (52) also played a factor

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/3/2013, 01:25 PM
Couldn't believe they hired him in the first place; talk about a re-tread. FWIW, he took over for Macpherson at Syracuse & was the HC when Blanton beat them w/ that last second FG in '94.

Yep. I did some research into the situation and wow was he bad. UConn's 2008 recruiting class (almost all 2*s) had 6 guys drafted (1 in 2012, 5 last year). Pascaloni managed 2 4-7 seasons with them and then started out 0-4 this season without them before the AD canned him and the assistant head coach. Then it gets funny.

The new guy comes in and says that he is going to move to a true freshman "highly touted" 6'4" QB. Pascaloni then says "That was my idea, not his". The new QB plays in 4 games with a 40% completion ratio, 0 TDs and 8 INTs. They then move to the redshirt freshman 6'1" QB who does pretty well and they win 2 games. Neither one of these guys is coming off like they know what kind of talent they have.

Anyway, I'm a ways away, but I wouldn't be surprised if that 2008 UConn recruiting class (based on percentage of drafted players) is one of the top 5 in the nation in 2008 at 6 out of 22. Too bad the former coach left, his ability to evaluate the northern states for gems would have been amazing at UConn and will get him fired at Maryland.

Behold the evaluation power of the recruiting services -> http://rivals.yahoo.com/oklahoma/football/recruiting/commitments/2008/connecticut-202

badger
12/3/2013, 01:32 PM
JKM, you left out the most fun part of the Pascaloni story: UConn's version of Boone Pickens was adamantly against the hire and sneered "I told you so (http://www.ctpost.com/uconn/article/UConn-s-top-booster-on-Pasqualoni-firing-I-told-4857720.php)" after his firing.

Ah, know-it-all boosters. The only difference between them and Internet fans is they talk with money instead of a keyboard :D

BoulderSooner79
12/3/2013, 04:47 PM
Except for that whole recruiting violation thing that seems to follow him around.

Like 8time said, he's a great recruiter :friendly_wink:

badger
12/4/2013, 10:01 AM
I'm kind of surprised by the lack of firings. Did college administrators finally figure out that they have to pay the guys, whether they're coaching or not, so they might as well grin and bear the losing a bit longer?

stoops the eternal pimp
12/4/2013, 10:10 AM
Waiting to see who is going to be available..

badger
12/4/2013, 10:17 AM
Waiting to see who is going to be available..

Do you see a trend toward pursuing those in the college ranks as opposed to those in the NFL ranks? I know many football coaches have experience in both, but I'm talking about current jobs, as opposed to job history.

Rumors reported USC interest in Jack Del Rio (whose is with the Broncos), but they eventually hired UW's Sark

badger
12/4/2013, 10:29 AM
Also, here's UW's reported (http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/12/04/3353363/huskies-still-searching-for-sarkisians.html) short list:
UCLA's Jim Mora (just signed extension with UCLA, so he's likely out)
UW DC Justin Wilcox
Alabama OC Doug Nussmeier
Boise State's Chris Pederson
Mizzou's Gary Pinkel

Since UW seems to be at the reject/stepping stone level of program now, rather than destination, I'd predict a DC or OC to get the job, as opposed to someone who is already a head coach elsewhere. I'm sure UW thinks they're better than that, but they apparently aren't

Scott D
12/4/2013, 01:09 PM
Hiring Del Rio would have killed recruiting (unless he left Denver immediately) as he wouldn't have stepped in until feburary more than likely.

Pinkel might have gone for the UW job if Mizzou wasn't on this run and their record was more similar to last years record instead.

Problem with NFL coaches for College spots right now is that it's a crapshoot with anyone on a playoff bound team's staff. The other teams, much more open in that regard.

BoulderSooner79
12/4/2013, 03:38 PM
Hiring Del Rio would have killed recruiting (unless he left Denver immediately) as he wouldn't have stepped in until feburary more than likely.

Pinkel might have gone for the UW job if Mizzou wasn't on this run and their record was more similar to last years record instead.

Problem with NFL coaches for College spots right now is that it's a crapshoot with anyone on a playoff bound team's staff. The other teams, much more open in that regard.

In general, I agree, but not in the case of USC. That is the most self-recruiting school in the country, IMO. And there can't be more proof than the last few years when they were under the harshest sanctions given out and they still pulled in top recruits, both local and national. They just had fewer spots available. Del Rio could have picked a recruiting coordinator to handle things for a while and they would have done fine. There are certainly other risks for a college hiring an NFL guy.

Scott D
12/4/2013, 04:18 PM
Hiring Del Rio would have killed recruiting (unless he left Denver immediately) as he wouldn't have stepped in until feburary more than likely.

Pinkel might have gone for the UW job if Mizzou wasn't on this run and their record was more similar to last years record instead.

Problem with NFL coaches for College spots right now is that it's a crapshoot with anyone on a playoff bound team's staff. The other teams, much more open in that regard.


In general, I agree, but not in the case of USC. That is the most self-recruiting school in the country, IMO. And there can't be more proof than the last few years when they were under the harshest sanctions given out and they still pulled in top recruits, both local and national. They just had fewer spots available. Del Rio could have picked a recruiting coordinator to handle things for a while and they would have done fine. There are certainly other risks for a college hiring an NFL guy.

It's all speculation, how much of what they pulled in recently was due to Oregeron? Who would he have to stabilize recruiting, assuming that Oregeron would have bailed the same way he bailed when they gave the job to Sarkesian instead of him?

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/4/2013, 05:17 PM
It's all speculation, how much of what they pulled in recently was due to Oregeron? Who would he have to stabilize recruiting, assuming that Oregeron would have bailed the same way he bailed when they gave the job to Sarkesian instead of him?

Personally, I think the only reason they offered the pay thing to orgeron was to keep him from bailing and then re-recruiting these guys at wherever he lands (which he has done at every single place he has left). I also think it was smart of him to resign since I wouldn't have been surprised in the least if that contract would have been terminated the day after signing day.

stoops the eternal pimp
12/6/2013, 09:52 AM
Looks like Chris Peterson to UW is on its way.

badger
12/6/2013, 10:21 AM
Looks like Chris Peterson to UW is on its way.

After this season, it was clear the Boise "dynasty" (what did they win, a dozen mid-major conference titles and a few bowl games? yawwwwn) was over, so it makes sense.

BoulderSooner79
12/6/2013, 10:25 AM
Looks like Chris Peterson to UW is on its way.

It will be interesting to see how this works out. Sark returned UW to respectability and stocked some talent there. But Boise's style under Peterson has eschewed the spread option rage for power running and play action passing. The timing looks right as BSU luck with turning 2 stars into NFL draft picks seems to have hit a lull.

UteSooner
12/6/2013, 10:28 AM
Petersen had to leave before his salary "premium" vanished (too many seasons like this one and his stock goes down).

swardboy
12/6/2013, 01:59 PM
If I were the new coach at Boise I'd demand that blue turf be burned.

badger
12/6/2013, 03:04 PM
Two additions: Boise State and Miami Ohio, who fired their coach after 5 games earlier this season and just hired a Domer assistant.

I'll also start an NFL subsection in the Texans dishonor, heh heh

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/6/2013, 09:19 PM
It will be interesting to see how this works out. Sark returned UW to respectability and stocked some talent there. But Boise's style under Peterson has eschewed the spread option rage for power running and play action passing. The timing looks right as BSU luck with turning 2 stars into NFL draft picks seems to have hit a lull.

I don't know if it is that or if Idaho is going through a dry spell (much like OK has been). I was kind of surprised that 1/3 of their draft picks were from Idaho.

BoulderSooner79
12/7/2013, 12:26 AM
I don't know if it is that or if Idaho is going through a dry spell (much like OK has been). I was kind of surprised that 1/3 of their draft picks were from Idaho.

Their run was amazing. 1st round CB, RB and OT in the last few years. 2 pretty good receivers (although one turned out to be mental). And that 4 man D-line from a couple of years ago was something to envy. I think all those guys at least got a FA shot. I have to give credit to the BSU staff for evaluating and developing players, but some of that just had to be luck that so many turned out. I watched a few of their games this year and they still looked well coached, but way down on talent.

EatLeadCommie
12/9/2013, 11:37 PM
Dave Clawson to replace Grobe at Wake. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24370572/bowling-green-coach-dave-clawson-to-be-named-head-coach-at-wake-forest

badger
12/10/2013, 10:15 AM
Dave Clawson to replace Grobe at Wake. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24370572/bowling-green-coach-dave-clawson-to-be-named-head-coach-at-wake-forest

thx. looks like we have two more additions to the list! Bowling Green and Wake. I'm going to verify now, but I think Wyoming might have found their guy too

EDIT: Wyoming got FCS powerhouse NDSU's coach. I'll add both to the list, even if it's only FCS.

badger
12/11/2013, 10:57 AM
i'm not posting mack until its official!

Salt City Sooner
12/11/2013, 02:50 PM
Harsin's heading back to Boise St.

badger
12/11/2013, 02:56 PM
thx will add (please include links on all extreme cases... not this one, but extreme ones)

Jacie
12/11/2013, 03:45 PM
I am reading the article about Harsin returning to Boise, this time as the head coach and it mentioned how he is the third coach to leave Arkansas State after 1 year, the other two being Gus Malzahn and Hugh Freeze. Anyway, it said "His five-year contract at Arkansas State carries a $1.75 million buyout clause if he stepped away in the first year of the deal." So either Harsin or Boise State has to pony up that much to Arky State?

Scott D
12/11/2013, 04:03 PM
yep.

badger
12/11/2013, 04:06 PM
I am reading the article about Harsin returning to Boise, this time as the head coach and it mentioned how he is the third coach to leave Arkansas State after 1 year, the other two being Gus Malzahn and Hugh Freeze. Anyway, it said "His five-year contract at Arkansas State carries a $1.75 million buyout clause if he stepped away in the first year of the deal." So either Harsin or Boise State has to pony up that much to Arky State?

Yeah, that might come in handy when Arky State has to pay for unsold mid-minor bowl tickets

Jacie
12/11/2013, 04:08 PM
They may have inadvertently stumbled on a way to fund their athletic program.

badger
12/16/2013, 09:21 AM
I can't hold off any longer, or wait for Jerry Jones to inevitable fire everyone after last night's loss.

Texas and Army, you're going up on the big board!

badger
12/16/2013, 09:29 AM
OK, I also went through and updated some minor hirings that I missed, so I am fairly confident that the current list is updated, although FAU appears on the verge of making a hire today. More on that here (http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-12-14/sports/sfl-sources-charlie-partridge-hired-as-fau-head-coach-20131214_1_brian-wright-fau-position-pete-rekstis). I think we can safely assume that some NFL firings are imminent in the coming weeks as well.

Ruf/Nek7
12/16/2013, 09:30 AM
I hope to God the entire Dallas Cowboy coaching staff gets added to the list in the very near future....well all but Marinelli!

badger
12/16/2013, 09:40 AM
I hope to God the entire Dallas Cowboy coaching staff gets added to the list in the very near future....well all but Marinelli!

Packer fan here. You can keep losing as far as I'm concerned :)

Scott D
12/16/2013, 11:11 AM
I hope to God the entire Dallas Cowboy coaching staff gets added to the list in the very near future....well all but Marinelli!

Why? the Owner/GM makes worse hiring decisions each time he fires someone.

badger
12/16/2013, 11:40 AM
Why? the Owner/GM makes worse hiring decisions each time he fires someone.

The same could be said for some recent college coaching decisions. Remember how desperate Tennessee was to replace Phil Fulmer with another championship winning coach? One year of Lane Kiffin, several years of Derek Dooley before finally landing an OK hire in Butch Jones.

In NFL is a bit more forgiving with emotional hires and fires, but Jerry has managed to avoid playoff victories for such a long time in a league where even a blind squirrel can find a playoff win nut every decade or so (their 09 victory over the eagles was their blind squirrel win i guess)

badger
12/30/2013, 09:40 AM
So, a few officially out this morning --- Leslie Frazier and the Browns rookie. I'd expect Redskins Shannahan to be official soon if not already.

I'll double-check the college list since I haven't updated it in awhile

EDIT: Skins firing is official. Also updated the college list as much as I could. I fully expect more college openings due to NFL openings

badger
12/30/2013, 12:00 PM
Tampa's Greg Schiano out (potential Penn State replacement if OBrien goes to Texans?) and Lions' Schwartz reportedly out. Stay tuned...

EDIT: Add Jim Schwartz and the Lions. whoever takes that job is a fool

GDC
12/30/2013, 01:21 PM
Todd McShay just stated on NFL Total Access that Bob Stoops is expressing interest in NFL jobs. Any truth to this or is it just more of the usual coaching carousel BS?

badger
12/30/2013, 01:35 PM
Todd McShay just stated on NFL Total Access that Bob Stoops is expressing interest in NFL jobs. Any truth to this or is it just more of the usual coaching carousel BS?

Nick Saban just got a pay raise, so I'm sure Stoops' agent would love to get Bob one too. There is nothing to suggest that Bob has worn out his welcome in Norman, nor that he is tiring of the college game.

At the same time, NFL coaching money can be a lot higher than it used to be, which lends to greater job security with less non-coaching responsibilities. NFL coaches have less recruiting, less donors/boosters/politicians to please, less player babysitting and less weird rules to follow.

My gut says Bob stays, but that his agent won't prevent his name from popping up in NFL rumors to get more money from OU

Sooner in Tampa
12/30/2013, 01:48 PM
Tampa's Greg Schiano out (potential Penn State replacement if OBrien goes to Texans?) and Lions' Schwartz reportedly out. Stay tuned...

The axe fell on Schiano indeed...poor Gerald McCoy...he will be working with his 3rd complete staff overhaul during his tenure in Tampa...UGH...GMC really flourished under Shiano's tenure, but it seems like he was the only player who did...

badger
12/30/2013, 02:17 PM
The axe fell on Schiano indeed...poor Gerald McCoy...he will be working with his 3rd complete staff overhaul during his tenure in Tampa...UGH...GMC really flourished under Shiano's tenure, but it seems like he was the only player who did...

He's as cursed as Sam Bradford in that regard, always having a new coaching staff to deal with :(

Scott D
12/30/2013, 03:21 PM
Tampa's Greg Schiano out (potential Penn State replacement if OBrien goes to Texans?) and Lions' Schwartz reportedly out. Stay tuned...

EDIT: Add Jim Schwartz and the Lions. whoever takes that job is a fool

you're letting your chapped hide show ;)

badger
12/30/2013, 03:26 PM
you're letting your chapped hide show ;)

I think you have me confused with a fan whose team is not in the playoffs :D

Is there anyone out there, Detroit fans included, who thinks that being head coach of the Lions is a good move professionally, given its recent track record? That's like telling a star player to be on the Madden cover --- What's the worst that can happen, tee hee hee lololololol???

bluedogok
12/30/2013, 11:02 PM
At least there is talent at Detroit now which they were decidedly void of when Matt Millen ran the show....of course picking in the first five picks for years on end should be a way to get some talent although Millen could **** that away with the best of them.

badger
1/1/2014, 11:39 AM
It might not be a done deal officially, but with all the crazy talk on ESPN this morning on Penn Staters clinging to their Joe Pa past, I'm just going to put up the Texans/PSU thing to spite them.

Rogue
1/1/2014, 07:32 PM
I thought for sure Pelini's *** was grass in Lincoln. Now, maybe not so much. Wish they'd hire Fake Bo Pelini as a PR guy!

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football/story/bo-pelini-wins-the-gator-bowl-and-fake-bo-pelini-remains-awesome-010114


RUN THE FIRST DOWN GETTING PLAY

IT'S CALLED TACKLE FOOTBALL NOT HANG ON FOR A FUN RIDE FOOTBALL

8timechamps
1/1/2014, 09:39 PM
Todd McShay just stated on NFL Total Access that Bob Stoops is expressing interest in NFL jobs. Any truth to this or is it just more of the usual coaching carousel BS?

Jake Trotter (ESPN) said that he asked around about this, and someone high in the program's response was "no way".

8timechamps
1/1/2014, 09:40 PM
I thought for sure Pelini's *** was grass in Lincoln. Now, maybe not so much. Wish they'd hire Fake Bo Pelini as a PR guy!

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football/story/bo-pelini-wins-the-gator-bowl-and-fake-bo-pelini-remains-awesome-010114

The Nebraska AD came out after the last game and said that Pelini wasn't going anywhere. Today's win was just icing on the cake for him.

Sooner in Tampa
1/2/2014, 08:19 AM
The Nebraska AD came out after the last game and said that Pelini wasn't going anywhere. Today's win was just icing on the cake for him.

Good, Pelini's *** needs to stay a bugeater...they deserve him.

BTW...the begeater's recruiting class is AWFUL...may not even break the top 50

badger
1/2/2014, 09:15 AM
the begeater's recruiting class is AWFUL

You mean top high school players don't want to play for that dumdum?

Also, coaching change news: Lovie Smith is likely going to Tamper Bay, so I'll just go ahead and add it. Congrats, Tampa dude. He might have toyed around with a few Sooners in Chicago, but if he's smart he'll use GK right

Sooner in Tampa
1/2/2014, 09:35 AM
You mean top high school players don't want to play for that dumdum?

Also, coaching change news: Lovie Smith is likely going to Tamper Bay, so I'll just go ahead and add it. Congrats, Tampa dude. He might have toyed around with a few Sooners in Chicago, but if he's smart he'll use GK right

Yeah...dumdum is making his own bed...as well as the entire university...a match made in heaven.

Yup...all the news in town is that Lovie is almost a done deal, the years and figures are complete...4 years @ $5M per year (Good work if you can get it). I am a pretty much...MEH...about the hire, it is safe. The word is that Jeff Tedford will be the OC and that Lovie's first choice will be Rod Marinelli (if they can get Dallas to release him from the last year of his contract) and his second choice is Leslie Frazier for the DC job...so we shall see. I know I am interested to see how GMC does under Lovie...and hopefully Marinelli. Warren Sapp and Simeon Rice both have raved about what a great coach Marinelli is...so, fingers crossed.

Rogue
1/2/2014, 05:14 PM
The Nebraska AD came out after the last game and said that Pelini wasn't going anywhere.

Yeah, sometimes that's really the kiss of death a'la, "I love coaching here and I don't have any plans to go anywhere else" right before a coach signs a new deal with a new team. But the big Bowl win probably bought him another year.

badger
1/3/2014, 11:13 AM
whoops

badger
1/4/2014, 11:25 PM
another one bites the dust!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10242606/mike-munchak-fired-tennessee-titans

and let's put charlie at texas and open up louisville

badger
1/9/2014, 10:06 AM
Well, ain't that a brace in the neck...

New coaching opening, new coaching hire. Actually two, the skins hired Jay Gruden. Will update list shortly

badger
1/10/2014, 12:03 PM
Another addition --- WKU promoted Jeff Brohm to head coach.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10273845/jeff-brohm-hired-coach-western-kentucky-hilltoppers

Jacie
1/10/2014, 05:31 PM
Saban hiring Laney seems a tad hypocritical since he was the one complaining about spread offenses being harmful to the players . . .

badger
1/10/2014, 05:31 PM
Saban hiring Laney seems a tad hypocritical since he was the one complaining about spread offenses being harmful to the players . . .

losing is harmful to saban, so he's conflicted :P

Scott D
1/10/2014, 05:40 PM
it's all part of the master plan....next Kirby Smart will take a new job, and Monte Kiffin will be brought in to "consult" on the defense.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/10/2014, 05:42 PM
ESPeNis is sucking Saban's knob again, gushing on about how the Kiffin hire MUST be a good one, since St. Nick ABSOLUTELY knows what he's doing. Saban is supremely wise, so, Lane Kiffin is sure to be able to help the bamer team, fershure.:excitement: