What OU player got hurt at Ou/ k state

[5noubus]

Did clay get hurt? Colvin ?
Any updates?

[SoonerPride93]

I know Tyrus was hurt during the game and game out, Colvin gimpy on the sidelines

[BoulderSooner79]

Clay limped off after his last carry, but I haven't seen any follow-up. Clay was totally exhausted in the 4th and we were missing Williams. It was obvious the coaches didn't trust Finch on any down where we might need to pass and they would bring Clay back in even though he was still tired. I understand the size thing with Finch, but too bad we don't trust Ross to help.

[8timechamps]

Clay should be good to go. He had an ankle injury (unspecified) in the third quarter, and otherwise exhausted. Nothing major.

Don't know the status of Thompson, and I don't think Stoops has commented.

[BoulderSooner79]

Clay should be good to go. He had an ankle injury (unspecified) in the third quarter, and otherwise exhausted. Nothing major.

Don't know the status of Thompson, and I don't think Stoops has commented.

Any news on Ford? Hate to see Clay forced into 30+ carries in Stillwater. Although that might be a good sign that we're still in the game :)

[cherokeebrewer]

Watched the replay. Shead didn't make the trip, Colvin is still hurting along with Thompson going down. Bob says hopefully with 2 weeks off we get some back, including the suspended...fwiw

[8timechamps]

Any news on Ford? Hate to see Clay forced into 30+ carries in Stillwater. Although that might be a good sign that we're still in the game :)

Clay is the only one I heard about, so nothing on Ford.

I don't think Finch/Ross stayed on the sideline for any reason other than Clay was playing excellent. After the game, I thought "what would Clay have done if he were the feature back in this offense?". It would be interesting to know, and he may be the feature back the rest of the way.

[SoonerForLife92]

Clay is the only one I heard about, so nothing on Ford.

I don't think Finch/Ross stayed on the sideline for any reason other than Clay was playing excellent. After the game, I thought "what would Clay have done if he were the feature back in this offense?". It would be interesting to know, and he may be the feature back the rest of the way.

He should have been in the first place

[8timechamps]

He should have been in the first place

It's hard for me to argue against the multiple backs when it seems to have worked, but when I see a guy get his chance to carry the load, and has success, I can't help but wonder.

Clay hasn't made it a secret that he wants at least 15 carries a game, but he's also been first class when supporting the other guys. For some reason, Clay hasn't sparked some OU fans (I have no idea why), and I think he'll earn some more folks on his band wagon in the next few weeks.

[SoonerMarkVA]

Clay was pretty uninspiring his first two years. He reminded me of watching Kejuan Jones. However, it was pretty clear as of last year that he was really boosting his output, and this year he's been money. So, maybe those first 2 years dulled enough people that they aren't able to get too excited about him. But there's no denying that he's turned out to be a fantastic back.

[BoulderSooner79]

Clay is the only one I heard about, so nothing on Ford.

I don't think Finch/Ross stayed on the sideline for any reason other than Clay was playing excellent. After the game, I thought "what would Clay have done if he were the feature back in this offense?". It would be interesting to know, and he may be the feature back the rest of the way.

He was so obviously gassed on the last couple of series and was hard to watch. Thought he would never get to his 200yds after hitting 185 so quickly. Of course KSU knew we were trying to run clock by then and were gambling against the run. Finch was taken out on 3rd downs I assume due concerns over pass protection. He certainly wasn't tired. Glad to hear the suspended players will be back. I had read several rumors Williams was off the team. I thought only true stuff appeared on the interweb :surprise:

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Clay was pretty uninspiring his first two years. He reminded me of watching Kejuan Jones. However, it was pretty clear as of last year that he was really boosting his output, and this year he's been money. So, maybe those first 2 years dulled enough people that they aren't able to get too excited about him. But there's no denying that he's turned out to be a fantastic back.

heh. As one of the few people who liked him in 2010, I thought he could be pretty good if he gained more strength. I KNEW he was much better than Calhoun who had about as much vision as Stevie Wonder. Clay, on the other hand, showed really good vision and the ability to scrape tacklers but he was so weak that they just stonewalled him sideways. Had he not gotten hurt as a freshman and been out for the spring with surgery, he'd have been like this as a sophomore.

[Ruf/Nek7]

We will find out tomorrow after practice so long as Bob reveals the sensitive info to us.

[BoulderSooner79]

heh. As one of the few people who liked him in 2010, I thought he could be pretty good if he gained more strength. I KNEW he was much better than Calhoun who had about as much vision as Stevie Wonder. Clay, on the other hand, showed really good vision and the ability to scrape tacklers but he was so weak that they just stonewalled him sideways. Had he not gotten hurt as a freshman and been out for the spring with surgery, he'd have been like this as a sophomore.

I was one of the other few. I really liked what I saw on his few reps before the hit in the FSU game. Definitely tentative his Soph year, but really showed what he could do last year.

[Okie35]

Clay was pretty uninspiring his first two years. He reminded me of watching Kejuan Jones. However, it was pretty clear as of last year that he was really boosting his output, and this year he's been money. So, maybe those first 2 years dulled enough people that they aren't able to get too excited about him. But there's no denying that he's turned out to be a fantastic back.

I don't think his concussion helped. I think his confidence was shot a bit. You remember the FSU game @ home... he didn't run like he used to for a while after that hit.

[SoonerForLife92]

It's hard for me to argue against the multiple backs when it seems to have worked, but when I see a guy get his chance to carry the load, and has success, I can't help but wonder.

Clay hasn't made it a secret that he wants at least 15 carries a game, but he's also been first class when supporting the other guys. For some reason, Clay hasn't sparked some OU fans (I have no idea why), and I think he'll earn some more folks on his band wagon in the next few weeks.

The multiple backs approach is good but I was never as huge a of Damien Williams as most. Don't get me wrong he is a great player but I feel like some people are blinded by the big plays he has had. Those plays were great, but in my opinion he has not been as consistent as Clay or had the same amount of running vision. He is bigger and "flashier", but in my opinion Clay is more solid. It's kinda like comparing the running style and size of Demarco to Chris Brown, except switching which one is somewhat better.

[Okie35]

The multiple backs approach is good but I was never as huge a of Damien Williams as most. Don't get me wrong he is a great player but I feel like some people are blinded by the big plays he has had. Those plays were great, but in my opinion he has not been as consistent as Clay or had the same amount of running vision. He is bigger and "flashier", but in my opinion Clay is more solid. It's kinda like comparing the running style and size of Demarco to Chris Brown, except switching which one is somewhat better.

That's true. Clay does have more vision and he's more patient to find holes when he runs. I appreciate Williams as far as being more physical and his ability to break tackles. Both have breakaway speed. All our back compliment each other and bring different styles to the offense. Finch is shifty.

[picasso]

He should have been in the first place

Yes, because DD Williams has done nothing. Right?

[SoonerForLife92]

Yes, because DD Williams has done nothing. Right?

If you would actually read the whole topic you would see where I already explained myself.

[8timechamps]

The multiple backs approach is good but I was never as huge a of Damien Williams as most. Don't get me wrong he is a great player but I feel like some people are blinded by the big plays he has had. Those plays were great, but in my opinion he has not been as consistent as Clay or had the same amount of running vision. He is bigger and "flashier", but in my opinion Clay is more solid. It's kinda like comparing the running style and size of Demarco to Chris Brown, except switching which one is somewhat better.

With Williams, when he tries to be flashy (dancing around in the backfield), he almost always goes down. When he ran as a one-cut kind of player, he usually had success. In all fairness, he seems to have done a better job, as the season has gone on, of being that North/South back, but he still goes back to that flashy style once in a while. Otherwise, he's a very good back.

My biggest issue with Williams is his apparent undisciplined actions off the field. After his first suspension, you would have thought he would have realized what was at stake. It's unusual for JUCO kids (that work hard enough to become a starter) to throw away opportunities like Williams has. I think he has NFL talent, I just hope he doesn't waste any more opportunities.

[CatfishSooner]

DD has not had a great year thus far...

I've been very impressed with Clay the last 2 years, especially this year.. I never would have thought he would be so good after his first 2 years...

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Clay was pretty uninspiring his first two years. He reminded me of watching Kejuan Jones. However, it was pretty clear as of last year that he was really boosting his output, and this year he's been money. So, maybe those first 2 years dulled enough people that they aren't able to get too excited about him. But there's no denying that he's turned out to be a fantastic back.I have always been unimpressed up until this year. His first 2 years he DID run like Kejuan Jones, that is come down easily. In addition, he would trip, stumble and fall, like Trey Franks. He started to improve on his toughness last year, and has become a legit running back this year...then, in the last game against KSU, he goes with the trip, stumble and fall again.

[BoulderSooner79]

I have always been unimpressed up until this year. His first 2 years he DID run like Kejuan Jones, that is come down easily. In addition, he would trip, stumble and fall, like Trey Franks. He started to improve on his toughness last year, and has become a legit running back this year...then, in the last game against KSU, he goes with the trip, stumble and fall again.

Are you talking about Franks or the guy that just ran for 200 yards?

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Are you talking about Franks or the guy that just ran for 200 yards?

He fell on one play when he made a cut because he was gassed. I just do not understand why people hate on some of our players even when they get better.

For the record,

Clay will probably finish this year as his 2nd above 6.0 ypc.
Adrian Peterson never had more than 5.6 ypc
Demarco Murray only had 1 year of 6.0, his Freshman. His JR/SR years he was at 4.1/4.3

He doesn't have anywhere near the frame of those guys to do well in the pros, but as far as college backs go. He is pretty good.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Are you talking about Franks or the guy that just ran for 200 yards?

And just for grins, can you name the running backs in the last 35 years that had over 6.0 ypc in 2 of their 4 years?

I'll spot you Q under Stoops (1999/2002), but can you name the others (it is a decently long list so this should be a good number)

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

He fell on one play when he made a cut because he was gassed. I just do not understand why people hate on some of our players even when they get better.

For the record,

Clay will probably finish this year as his 2nd above 6.0 ypc.
Adrian Peterson never had more than 5.6 ypc
Demarco Murray only had 1 year of 6.0, his Freshman. His JR/SR years he was at 4.1/4.3

He doesn't have anywhere near the frame of those guys to do well in the pros, but as far as college backs go. He is pretty good.If you're talking to me, you have it wrong about any hate. I understand his injuries as explained in earlier posts. I laud him for running so well this year, especially compared to his first 2 years. But, I cringe when any ball carrier just stumbles and falls. I had not seen Clay do that this year until twice last saturday in Manhattan. Overall, he had an excellent game. Our biggest shortcoming last game was pass defense, if you want to call it that.

[BoulderSooner79]

If you're talking to me, you have it wrong about any hate. I understand his injuries as explained in earlier posts. I laud him for running so well this year, especially compared to his first 2 years. But, I cringe when any ball carrier just stumbles and falls. I had not seen Clay do that this year until twice last saturday in Manhattan. Overall, he had an excellent game. Our biggest shortcoming last game was pass defense, if you want to call it that.

I hope he stumbles more on his way to 200yds in his last 2 games as a Sooner. Geez, he's not made for 31 carries and he clearly had weary legs at the end. I think the coaches really wanted him to hit the 200 mark, but he would have got it on less carries if he had been given a breather just a few more times. I'm just amazed what people find to criticize. Clay dominated the game. And I've seen every back stumble on their own at times including the great AD and certainly DM.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

I hope he stumbles more on his way to 200yds in his last 2 games as a Sooner. Geez, he's not made for 31 carries and he clearly had weary legs at the end. I think the coaches really wanted him to hit the 200 mark, but he would have got it on less carries if he had been given a breather just a few more times. I'm just amazed what people find to criticize. Clay dominated the game. And I've seen every back stumble on their own at times including the great AD and certainly DM.

And lets be honest, Kejuan was in a class by himself when it came to tripping over yardlines.

[BoulderSooner79]

And lets be honest, Kejuan was in a class by himself when it came to tripping over yardlines.

Yep, Kejuan always looked like he lunged to cross the LOS just happy to get positive yardage. Clay has shown great vision the last 2 years and is always looking at the next level to how much he can get.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

And lets be honest, Kejuan was in a class by himself when it came to tripping over yardlines.Clay and Trey Franks both did it a lot during their first 2 years, as well.

If we beat orange aggy in 2 weeks, I will revoke any criticism I have ever made of anyone this year, for any reason.(except politics and economics)

[PrideMom]

Give thanks to the development of the offensive line. Knight was never sacked at the K State game. Of course it helps that he can MOVE!! OU should have most of their players back for the OSU game, that is, if they BEHAVE!!! Colvin has a pec tear (I think) which makes tackling very painful, but he played Saturday because it meant something to him. Never under estimate HEART, it is what makes college ball so much fun.

[Widescreen]

Actually, TK was sacked once. I think we were in the red zone. Stoops seemed a little irritated.

[5noubus]

"Colvin has a pec tear (I think) which makes tackling very painful, but he played Saturday because it meant something to him"

Colvin tweeted he was in a lot of pain,
Wonder if he will play in the bedlam game?

[picasso]

DD has not had a great year thus far...

I've been very impressed with Clay the last 2 years, especially this year.. I never would have thought he would be so good after his first 2 years...

Stats compared to last year no. But he catches everything and he's made some tough yards. Clay can't do it alone.

[BoulderSooner79]

Clay and Trey Franks both did it a lot during their first 2 years, as well.

If we beat orange aggy in 2 weeks, I will revoke any criticism I have ever made of anyone this year, for any reason.(except politics and economics)

Clay's performance against KSU will not be magically changed by what happens in Stillwater. Criticize a career performance all you want in your glass is .5% empty world.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Clay's performance against KSU will not be magically changed by what happens in Stillwater. Criticize a career performance all you want in your glass is .5% empty world.Can't be all that much fun to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Slow day for football. Too bad the next game is 12 long days away, huh?

[cvsooner]

Speaking of trips, did you catch Bryce Petty's collapse at the one yard line early in the Bailor-OSewe game? Next play is a fumble recovered by the Pokes. I have wondered how that game might have turned out if Petty had scored early...which he should have done.

[BoulderSooner79]

Speaking of trips, did you catch Bryce Petty's collapse at the one yard line early in the Bailor-OSewe game? Next play is a fumble recovered by the Pokes. I have wondered how that game might have turned out if Petty had scored early...which he should have done.

Momentum can turn games, but in this case, OSU was just owning BU. I don't see it changing the outcome, just the final score a bit.

[Okie35]

Speaking of trips, did you catch Bryce Petty's collapse at the one yard line early in the Bailor-OSewe game? Next play is a fumble recovered by the Pokes. I have wondered how that game might have turned out if Petty had scored early...which he should have done.

They would've still lost probably but barely. Baylor still couldn't stop the deep ball to save their lives.

[8timechamps]

If you're talking to me, you have it wrong about any hate. I understand his injuries as explained in earlier posts. I laud him for running so well this year, especially compared to his first 2 years. But, I cringe when any ball carrier just stumbles and falls. I had not seen Clay do that this year until twice last saturday in Manhattan. Overall, he had an excellent game. Our biggest shortcoming last game was pass defense, if you want to call it that.

In all of your years as a D1 college running back, did you ever stumble on a cutback?