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soonercruiser
11/20/2013, 08:13 PM
All of us wondered why we were hearing all the stories about millions of rounds of ammo being bought up by the military, Homeland Security, and even the Coast Guard.
WHY???

See this story.
It seems that only some insiders were aware that the Obama Administration, via the EPA would force the shut down of the only lead smelter in the U.S.
Oh, well! Just another jobs casualty of "Change"! :grumpy:
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Got plenty of ammo? - Better stock up; Obama is shutting down production as 'Back Door Gun Control'.....
Maybe this is why Homeland Security bought so much ammo in the last year.

There are numerous alarming reasons why the US government and the military have been buying up all the ammo. Here’s one of them. Obama and the EPA just shut down the last lead smelting plant in the US. They raised the EPA regulations by 10 fold and it would have cost the plant $100 million to comply. You can own all the guns you want, but if you can’t get ammo, you are out of luck.

Remember when Obama promised his minions that he was working on gun control behind the scenes? Welcome to it. Now, all domestic mined lead ore will have to be shipped overseas, refined and then shipped back to the US. Not only will ammo now be even harder to come by, the demand and the process of supply will cause the price to skyrocket even more. And ponder this… there is an excellent chance that Obama will rig the market to where all ammo has to be purchased from a government entity instituting de facto ammo registration. So much for the Second Amendment. There has not been a peep about this in the major news outlets and it is done. With the US no longer producing lead, all supplies will now have to come from China, Australia or Peru, with the overwhelming emphasis on China. More redistribution of wealth; more economic and liberty crippling of the US on tap.

The EPA had this to say:

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said the company “made a business decision” to shut down the smelter instead of installing pollution control technologies needed to reduce sulfur dioxide and lead emissions as required by the Clean Air Act.

The Doe Run Co. announced last year that it had dropped plans to build a new lead processing facility in Herculaneum that would have used a new, cleaner lead production technology. The company cited the $100 million project as 'too financially risky' [spelled Gov't Strong Arm & Extortion].

The EPA is playing 'Mafioso' I guess — 'we didn’t make them shut down, they made a business decision.' In other words, they couldn’t pay the extortion, so the thugs shut them down. I’m pretty sure that Americans are getting ready to make their own business decision regarding these Marxists and I don’t think it will be pleasant. But Marxists will do or die and are doubling down on the destruction of energy in America, our way of life and our Constitution.

The smelting plant has known since 2010 this was coming. They couldn’t stop it and no one else rose up to stop it either. The business had been in production for 120 years, and now goes the way of our auto industry.

The military’s obsession with ammo was related to security and supply. They knew this was coming too, so they bought up all they could get before the plug was pulled. Screw the average American. It’s as Chris Muir said, he’s 'not as worried about where the bullets will come from, as much as how the government will deliver them' and I’m right there with him on that one.

So, back door gun control is moving forward and while we are all distracted with shiny stuff, our Second Amendment rights are just about gone. Obama is one Marxist dictator who is savvy at political chess.
He has flanked the Second Amendment. Now it’s our move.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2013/11/11/last-primary-american-lead-smelter-closing-implications-for-ammunition-manufacturing/
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/16881-epa-closure-of-last-lead-smelting-plant-to-impact-ammunition-production
http://www.dailypaul.com/303664/last-us-lead-smelter-to-close-in-december-effect-on-ammo
http://www.examiner.com/article/last-us-lead-smelter-closure-highlights-need-to-rescind-bullet-material-limits

diverdog
11/20/2013, 08:48 PM
All of us wondered why we were hearing all the stories about millions of rounds of ammo being bought up by the military, Homeland Security, and even the Coast Guard.
WHY???

See this story.
It seems that only some insiders were aware that the Obama Administration, via the EPA would force the shut down of the only lead smelter in the U.S.
Oh, well! Just another jobs casualty of "Change"! :grumpy:
----------------------------
Got plenty of ammo? - Better stock up; Obama is shutting down production as 'Back Door Gun Control'.....
Maybe this is why Homeland Security bought so much ammo in the last year.

There are numerous alarming reasons why the US government and the military have been buying up all the ammo. Here’s one of them. Obama and the EPA just shut down the last lead smelting plant in the US. They raised the EPA regulations by 10 fold and it would have cost the plant $100 million to comply. You can own all the guns you want, but if you can’t get ammo, you are out of luck.

Remember when Obama promised his minions that he was working on gun control behind the scenes? Welcome to it. Now, all domestic mined lead ore will have to be shipped overseas, refined and then shipped back to the US. Not only will ammo now be even harder to come by, the demand and the process of supply will cause the price to skyrocket even more. And ponder this… there is an excellent chance that Obama will rig the market to where all ammo has to be purchased from a government entity instituting de facto ammo registration. So much for the Second Amendment. There has not been a peep about this in the major news outlets and it is done. With the US no longer producing lead, all supplies will now have to come from China, Australia or Peru, with the overwhelming emphasis on China. More redistribution of wealth; more economic and liberty crippling of the US on tap.

The EPA had this to say:

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said the company “made a business decision” to shut down the smelter instead of installing pollution control technologies needed to reduce sulfur dioxide and lead emissions as required by the Clean Air Act.

The Doe Run Co. announced last year that it had dropped plans to build a new lead processing facility in Herculaneum that would have used a new, cleaner lead production technology. The company cited the $100 million project as 'too financially risky' [spelled Gov't Strong Arm & Extortion].

The EPA is playing 'Mafioso' I guess — 'we didn’t make them shut down, they made a business decision.' In other words, they couldn’t pay the extortion, so the thugs shut them down. I’m pretty sure that Americans are getting ready to make their own business decision regarding these Marxists and I don’t think it will be pleasant. But Marxists will do or die and are doubling down on the destruction of energy in America, our way of life and our Constitution.

The smelting plant has known since 2010 this was coming. They couldn’t stop it and no one else rose up to stop it either. The business had been in production for 120 years, and now goes the way of our auto industry.

The military’s obsession with ammo was related to security and supply. They knew this was coming too, so they bought up all they could get before the plug was pulled. Screw the average American. It’s as Chris Muir said, he’s 'not as worried about where the bullets will come from, as much as how the government will deliver them' and I’m right there with him on that one.

So, back door gun control is moving forward and while we are all distracted with shiny stuff, our Second Amendment rights are just about gone. Obama is one Marxist dictator who is savvy at political chess.
He has flanked the Second Amendment. Now it’s our move.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2013/11/11/last-primary-american-lead-smelter-closing-implications-for-ammunition-manufacturing/
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/16881-epa-closure-of-last-lead-smelting-plant-to-impact-ammunition-production
http://www.dailypaul.com/303664/last-us-lead-smelter-to-close-in-december-effect-on-ammo
http://www.examiner.com/article/last-us-lead-smelter-closure-highlights-need-to-rescind-bullet-material-limits


It would have been really nice if the rest of the facts were printed in these right wing rags:

http://www.dnr.mo.gov/env/herc/docs/hercabateorder.pdf

Doe Run is Missouri's worst polluter and it should comply with the law or be shut down.

i would be willing to pay more for ammo if they installed the new technology.

diverdog
11/20/2013, 08:56 PM
And since you decided to post your propaganda here is mine:


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February, 1989: Rise in lead emissions at Herculaneum nearly 4 times national average (St. Louis Post-Dispatch)
June, 1989: Notice of Violation issued against Doe Run for violations of air standards for almost three years.
June, 1989: Doe Run holds community meeting in Herculaneum.
August, 1989: Notice of Violation issued for excess air pollution from the second quarter of 1986 to present at the Herculaneum facility.
February, 1990: Doe Run does not report sulfuric acid spill of 40,000 gallons in Herculaneum residential area. Doe Run is called "bad actor" by the State of Missouri.
March, 1990: Doe Run issued penalty of $50,000 for violations in Herculaneum.
November, 1991: EPA cites Doe Run for air violations in and around Herculaneum.
July, 1992: St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports "despite spending $20 million, Doe Run continues to violate air quality standards, as it has for 15 years". (St. Louis Post Dispatch).
October, 1992: Sulfuric acid spill at Herculaneum plant of 500 gallons.
1992: Doe Run begins monthly newsletter "Neighborhood Notes" in Herculaneum.
January, 1992: Department of Natural Resources finds violations at Doe Run's Buick, Missouri facility including 15,000 drums, open burning, leaking battery bunker, "releases too numerous to quantify", "an unbelievable mess". (Missouri Department of Natural Resources records). Doe Run was fined by the state to the tune of $300,000. Half of this went to fund equipment purchases for Missouri’s Stream Team Program.
February, 1993: Notice of violation issued against Doe Run for exceeding air standards by four times the limit at Herculaneum.
May, 1993: Doe Run tops Toxic Release Inventory list for top polluter in state; Doe Run's president Jeff Zelms states "We're tickled to death about the progress we've made." (St. Louis Post Dispatch)
May, 1993: Notice of Violations issues for water emissions at Herculaneum.
August, 1993: Doe Run produces video called Living with Lead for Herculaneum community members.
August, 1993: Doe Run cited for 313 violations by OSHA, including 283 willful violations (meaning they knew about the violations yet did nothing to correct them) and 136 instances of failing to record occupational injuries (Wall Street Journal, 2/18/88).
December, 1993: Doe Run settles violation of Feb. 25, 1993 with check for $5,000.
May, 1994: Notice of Violation issued against Doe Run for inspection failures at Herculaneum.
May, 1995: EPA and Doe Run sign stipulated agreement to address violations. Between this date and August, 1996, eight more violations occur at Herculaneum.
June, 1996: EPA issues complaint against Doe Run for failure to report toxic chemical release inventory emissions (TRI) for chromium compounds for two years; penalty assessed in amount of $34,000 which Doe Run paid the following month.
August, 1996: Gas explosion occurs at Herculaneum's plant.
August, 1996: USEPA begins action against Doe Run for failure of air violations in Herculaneum.
September, 1996: Overflow of untreated toxic water into Mississippi River at Herculaneum facility.
September, 1997: Doe Run receives final notice by EPA for failure of air violations at Herculaneum.
October, 1997: Doe Run's parent company Renco purchases smelter in La Oroya, Peru for $126 million plus $120 million in improvements. In the deal Renco obligated La Oroya to loan Renco $126 million interest free. (Vanity Fair, July, 2003)
1998: Doe Run purchases Glover, Missouri facility.
April, 2001: Toxics Release Inventory shows Doe Run holding the top seven spots of most polluting companies in Missouri. (St. Louis Post-Dispatch)
July, 2001: Agencies for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry issues Health Consultation Report of Herculaneum referring to past and present exposures of lead as a "persistent and unacceptable public health hazard".
August, 2001: Missouri Department of Natural Resources find lead levels of 300,000 parts per million on residential Herculaneum street; 400 parts per million is considered the hazardous level at which remediation is triggered.
2001: Former Doe Run workers come forward to identify illegal burying of hazardous waste at Doe Run facility, which triggers Grand Jury investigation.
September 10, 2001: Notice of Violation issued for toxic materials falling from uncovered trucks in residential areas in Herculaneum.
September 22, 2001: Notice of Violation issued for toxic materials coming into ambient air from uncovered trucks as witnessed by Department of Natural Resources at Herculaneum.
September, 24, 2001: Missouri Department of Health sends letter to Missouri Department of Natural Resources citing "clear and present" and "imminent and substantial endangerment" to Herculaneum residents.
September 25, 2001: Missouri Department of Natural Resources issues order to Cease and Desist to Doe Run.
September, 2001: State of Missouri installs caution signs on residential streets in Herculaneum which warn citizens of high lead levels and instructs families to visit parks in other towns.
September, 2001: Agencies for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry finds with 99.8 percent certainty that source of Herculaneum children's lead poisoning is the Doe Run facility.
September, 2001: EPA notes need to address "emergency conditions caused by release of hazardous substances" from Doe Run's Herculaneum facility.
October, 2001: Notice of Violation issued against Doe Run by the State's Water Pollution Program.
October, 2001: Notice of Violation issued against Doe Run by the MDNR Air Pollution Program.
October, 2001: Missouri Department of Natural Resources proposes listing the Mississippi River from the Doe Run facility downstream five miles--as impaired.
December, 2001: Federal and State agencies sign agreement listing mandatory actions to be taken by the company including the buy-out of hundreds of contaminated homes in Herculaneum.
February , 2002: Agencies for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry issue Health Consultation Report which finds that 56% of children within 1/4 mile of the Doe Run smelter are lead poisoned. Further alarming, 23% of children within 1.25 miles from the facility are found to be lead poisoned.
March, 2002: Letter from Missouri Department of Natural Resources to Doe Run's Jeffrey Zelms states: "The company's practice of doing the minimum work to obtain marginal regulatory compliance is clearly unacceptable given the continuing health threat to citizens of Missouri. We will not stand idly by while the company attempts to buy time...". The letter cites the company's "evasions".
December, 2002: Doe Run hosts "Open House"; pen and mugs giveaways, ornament decorating for kids, free cookies.
May, 2003: Doe Run hosts "Open House"; public tours of facility, "educational seminars", barbeque on the parking lot of the smelter!
July, 2003: Officials in Jefferson, Iron and Reynolds Counties in Missouri meet to discuss tactic of "divide and conquer" used by the Doe Run Company to avoid paying taxes (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 7/21/03).




So let me ask you cruiser would you tolerate this in your neighborhood?

KantoSooner
11/21/2013, 10:05 AM
Nobody has seized my guns, yet. Nobody seems to be getting ready to.

Guess I'll go back to building my asteroid strike bunker.

Never can tell.

diverdog
11/21/2013, 12:02 PM
Nobody has seized my guns, yet. Nobody seems to be getting ready to.

Guess I'll go back to building my asteroid strike bunker.

Never can tell.

Don't get me wrong in that Obama has caused problems in the supply of ammo. Mostly through recent rhetoric. It has caused hoarding and price gouging. But this issue of the lead producers goes back decades.