State Trooper Tackle

[freshchris05]

Terrible form. He didn't even wrap up.


https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/B3659C8BA51013583555164520448_17922be1af7.4.3.5647 738218184595284_zGYfGdDP1Vl_SE6AzV0MeY_E8s1CRxeQ8F K6QKTOUO7F9m7Mf9pOeH841Dfsv7ol.mp4?versionId=ZAi8Z j3Qce1WZxdorSIlX74eWooNftNU

[EatLeadCommie]

I was hoping to see a video of that. Funny. All you could hear on TV was the "Ohhhh!" from the crowd.

[olevetonahill]

he Laid him out and took him down what else ya want?

[SicEmBaylor]

Was it really necessary though? The guy was a drunken goof, but surely he could have been taken into custody without trying to take the guy's head off.

[Jacie]

Your empathy knows no bounds.

[freshchris05]

Was it really necessary though? The guy was a drunken goof, but surely he could have been taken into custody without trying to take the guy's head off.

You gotta give the crowd what they want.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/254/517/a70.gif

[freshchris05]

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?

[Judge Smails]

Was that Landry Jones?

[BoulderSooner79]

The trooper went for the high hit. Lucky he wasn't called for targeting.

[ouduckhunter]

One for the ages, especially when the fans hold their arms up!

[OUmillenium]

When did it occur? Bob was looking around a lot in the postgame IV

[Jacie]

In Waco, they don't tackle people who run onto the field, just hand them a pamphlet . . .

[cleller]

So the link works for others?

[cleller]

Was it really necessary though? The guy was a drunken goof, but surely he could have been taken into custody without trying to take the guy's head off.

Heat. Kitchen. Testosterone.

[SoonerForLife92]

So the link works for others?

Nope. Glad I saw it in person.

[SanDiegoSoonerGal]

One for the ages, especially when the fans hold their arms up!

Yeah, I crack up every time that guy in the baseball hat signals touchdown.

[NorthernIowaSooner]

That looked the trooper that follows Stoops around. I've been wanting to see him lay someone out for years. Excellent.

[Soonerwake]

That is exactly what I expected to hear from you. The reason he was tackled and escorted off the way he was is simple. You have no idea what he is going to do and who he may go after. He could have pulled a weapon, bomb, etc. Sure, he looks like a dork innocently running around on the field, but you never know. The job of the police in that case is to use one step higher on the use of force continuum to subdue the guy quickly. The guy did his job, and did it well. Can you imagine if the trooper had strolled up to have a chat and the guy pulls a knife in a crowded stadium with players, coaches, and officials in harms way, be forced to pull his gun?? Could have been a scary scene. I realize that the chance of any of that happening is slim, but its not worth the risk. Take him down, get him cuffed, and get him off the field as quickly as possibly without injury to any innocent bystanders. Job well done...

[bluedogok]

Your empathy knows no bounds.
Tequila cures empathy....

[nighttrain12]

Terrible form. He didn't even wrap up.


He knocked his d!ck in the dirt (turf) and that's what counts.

[nighttrain12]

(edit) Damn thing won't embed. I meant the video, not that guys head into the turf, that happened just fine. BA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!

[Soonerus]

Job well done !!!

[CatfishSooner]

that was funny

[BoulderSooner79]

Still say it was targeting and he should sit out the 1st half of the next game. The backup trooper should get the reps.

[SicEmBaylor]

That is exactly what I expected to hear from you. The reason he was tackled and escorted off the way he was is simple. You have no idea what he is going to do and who he may go after. He could have pulled a weapon, bomb, etc. Sure, he looks like a dork innocently running around on the field, but you never know. The job of the police in that case is to use one step higher on the use of force continuum to subdue the guy quickly. The guy did his job, and did it well. Can you imagine if the trooper had strolled up to have a chat and the guy pulls a knife in a crowded stadium with players, coaches, and officials in harms way, be forced to pull his gun?? Could have been a scary scene. I realize that the chance of any of that happening is slim, but its not worth the risk. Take him down, get him cuffed, and get him off the field as quickly as possibly without injury to any innocent bystanders. Job well done...

What a load of ****ing bull****. He was dancing around like a goof. A loaded weapon? Seriously? Christ almightly I'm sick of pigs and their power trips.

[EatLeadCommie]

Sicembaylor, when your football team becomes relevant for more than one season, you might have a kid blow himself up outside your football stadium to get attention. Happened at OU

[EatLeadCommie]

Was it really necessary though? The guy was a drunken goof, but surely he could have been taken into custody without trying to take the guy's head off.

That's the chance you take. I went into the mosh pit during the Slayer show the other night and got knocked on my ***. It was to be expected.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

That is exactly what I expected to hear from you. The reason he was tackled and escorted off the way he was is simple. You have no idea what he is going to do and who he may go after. He could have pulled a weapon, bomb, etc. Sure, he looks like a dork innocently running around on the field, but you never know. The job of the police in that case is to use one step higher on the use of force continuum to subdue the guy quickly. The guy did his job, and did it well. Can you imagine if the trooper had strolled up to have a chat and the guy pulls a knife in a crowded stadium with players, coaches, and officials in harms way, be forced to pull his gun?? Could have been a scary scene. I realize that the chance of any of that happening is slim, but its not worth the risk. Take him down, get him cuffed, and get him off the field as quickly as possibly without injury to any innocent bystanders. Job well done...

Are you lecturing sic em or someone else?

[SicEmBaylor]

Sicembaylor, when your football team becomes relevant for more than one season, you might have a kid blow himself up outside your football stadium to get attention. Happened at OU

Jesus Christ talk about hyperbole. This is so f'n ridiculous that it's almost tantamount to a mental disorder that people have these days over accepting any kind of military or police action to justify absolutely anything under the auspices of "OMFG WE HAVE TO DO THIS OR EVERYONE WILL DIE!!!!" It's a load of **** ****. People have been streaking and running around on the field since the dawn of sports events. Only a single celled clinically brain-dead idiot would see that guy and think he was some sort of threat to the safety of everyone in the stadium.

It was some fat *** jacked up cop wanting to make a show of his thuggery. He could have run over there and arrested the guy, but instead he tackled him in such a way that would get any player actually wearing pads ejected from the game.

A terror threat? Seriously? Christ almighty this country sucks more every day. Freedom was awesome while it lasted. Time to embrace our fascist overlords, I suppose.

[SoonerForLife92]

Still say it was targeting and he should sit out the 1st half of the next game. The backup trooper should get the reps.

This.

[SoonerKnight]

That is exactly what I expected to hear from you. The reason he was tackled and escorted off the way he was is simple. You have no idea what he is going to do and who he may go after. He could have pulled a weapon, bomb, etc. Sure, he looks like a dork innocently running around on the field, but you never know. The job of the police in that case is to use one step higher on the use of force continuum to subdue the guy quickly. The guy did his job, and did it well. Can you imagine if the trooper had strolled up to have a chat and the guy pulls a knife in a crowded stadium with players, coaches, and officials in harms way, be forced to pull his gun?? Could have been a scary scene. I realize that the chance of any of that happening is slim, but its not worth the risk. Take him down, get him cuffed, and get him off the field as quickly as possibly without injury to any innocent bystanders. Job well done...

What a load of ****ing bull****. He was dancing around like a goof. A loaded weapon? Seriously? Christ almightly I'm sick of pigs and their power trips.

Sickem he chose to be the dumb *** that was dancing on the 5 yard line during a game. You want to feel sorry for the guy fine but pansies like you is why I have a job! Power trip!! Yeah ok!!

[SicEmBaylor]

Sickem he chose to be the dumb *** that was dancing on the 5 yard line during a game. You want to feel sorry for the guy fine but pansies like you is why I have a job! Power trip!! Yeah ok!!

Here's the irony in that statement: In several other threads (not sure about you specifically), many are bitching about the supposed targeting violations we're supposedly guilty of. I suggested everyone quit their bitching and wipe the sand out of their vags....it's football, it's supposed to be tough, and I haven't seen a clear targeting violation yet. Now, keep in mind we're talking about football players in pads who are suited up and trained to play a game like football.

Now, contrast that with the fact that in this thread everyone is cheering a doughnut-munching power hungry idiot state trooper who blindsides a defenseless guy with a tackle that, if he were a football player, would get him ejected from the game. But I'm the pansy while you all are bitching about how Baylor's defense plays too rough?

Right.

[SicEmBaylor]

Just to recap here:

1)One football player in pads is being "too rough" with another football player in pads, should be investigated by the conference, ejected from the game, and suspended for x-amount of quarters/games.

HOWEVER

2)An idiot cop wearing neither pads nor a helmet blindsides another idiot who is also neither wearing pads nor a helmet by tackling him head first from behind is "cheer worthy" and apparently awesome.

Just so we're clear -- got it.

[olevetonahill]

Heres yer Vid


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiIH96BMunY

[Turd_Ferguson]

I've seen that trooper a few times and he is nowhere near being a fat ***. Also, I think he was the same one that was interviewed at a bedlam game and admitted he was a poke fan...

[okierider]

Sicem those "pigs" potentially put their life on the line every day . They deal with punks, drunks and *******s every day!! They see this **** poor behavior and have to make split second decisions on how best to deal with it.
Yes there are "bad" police out there, remember they are human,most have a calling to stand up and protect their fellow humans in an increasingly hostile world!!
All you see in the news is what sells
You do not see the everyday good that police do .

[5noubus]

He is Stoops trooper . He escorts stoops to and from the locker room during games . I have a friend that knows him and she is also a oswho fan

[olevetonahill]

He is Stoops trooper . He escorts stoops to and from the locker room during games . I have a friend that knows him and she is also a oswho fan

So he is a PIG huh?

[cleller]

The second vid is good.

So stupid looking turd runs onto the OU field, disrupting the game so he can jump around and look even more stupid. A trooper knocks him down in payment for stupidity.

OU fans laugh and and point at the idiot who got some negative reinforcement for for ill mannered, disrespectful behavior. A Baylor fan is upset, and calls the trooper names, while broadly condemning the whole profession. Very broadminded and 2013.

Which of the two in the video do you want on your team?

[ouwasp]

I'm glad the trooper nailed the miscreant. Had it been a "friendly", back-slapping, well-you've-had-your-moment sort of arrest, it would be way more likely to happen again.

[vtsooner21]

cleller, Amen! SicEm obviously has an ax to grind relative to the police and the job that they do in keeping us safe from butt holes. Until he's been in their shoes, I'm not certain he should open his mouth and dispel all doubt of what a butt hole lover he is..

Boomer

[soonerloyal]

What a load of ****ing bull****. He was dancing around like a goof. A loaded weapon? Seriously? Christ almightly I'm sick of pigs and their power trips.

From the mom of a "pig": oink, oink muthawankah...

[soonerloyal]

And while I'm thinking about it, give that trooper a scholly and suit him up. :cocksure:

[C&CDean]

Sicem,

You're being a dumb**** and just showing your *** here. If that poor bastard was you, you'd be broken in half and they'd have to scoop you off the field with a spoon.

Dude had it coming. That simple. At the end of the day, the cop eliminated/stopped any threat in a great way. Certainly. Everybody knows that.

[SoonerMachine]

It was excessive, but not egregious.

[BoulderSooner79]

It was excessive, but not egregious.

Yep, he could have held the guy down and tazed him a few times, but showed great restraint.

[SicEmBaylor]

Sicem,

You're being a dumb**** and just showing your *** here. If that poor bastard was you, you'd be broken in half and they'd have to scoop you off the field with a spoon.
That's exactly the point. And why did he have it coming? He was a nuisance and an idiot, but he wasn't violent or causing any real harm. Surely he could have been led off the field without being tackled like he was on the FBI's Most Wanted list. It was clearly excessive, but that's the kind of culture we have in the United States now. Anyone with a badge can pretty much do whatever the hell they want to do.

[Soonerwake]

The fact that you obviously have zero understanding of security is and what it takes to achieve it means that I am not sure why I am going to attempt to explain it again.

But, I'll give it one more shot....

If a guy is acting like that on a sidewalk somewhere with no one around, then yes, he can be apprehended much differently. When said guy is performing the same act in a crowded stadium in today's society with the real threat of bombings, etc., then the standard response by security and police is what we saw yesterday. No, it was not "clearly excessive".

And, as far as your "anyone with a badge can do whatever the hell they want to do", I am at a loss. You have no idea the split second decisions those men and women have to make that can be life or death, the fact that they are asked to serve as legal experts, social workers, paramedics, therapists, and/or animal control on top of performing the duties of a police professional, the strain of the job, terrible hours, working daily with the dredge of society, all while being constantly judged by know-it-alls like you about how they do their job. I would bet if you ask 100 security professionals, you would overwhelmingly get the same answer that the trooper acted correctly. But, I'm sure your response would just be that "they" stick up for each other. Oh well....

I, for one, am fine with our police, TSA, security personnel, etc taking actions to keep me and my family safe.

[soonertodd]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HdP2G7UtS9I

Nice tackle by the trooper.reminded me of this

[olevetonahill]

I've been a Cop, That was Uncalled for IMHO.Cops Like that scare me .

[JohnS]

That is exactly what I expected to hear from you. The reason he was tackled and escorted off the way he was is simple. You have no idea what he is going to do and who he may go after. He could have pulled a weapon, bomb, etc. Sure, he looks like a dork innocently running around on the field, but you never know. The job of the police in that case is to use one step higher on the use of force continuum to subdue the guy quickly. The guy did his job, and did it well. Can you imagine if the trooper had strolled up to have a chat and the guy pulls a knife in a crowded stadium with players, coaches, and officials in harms way, be forced to pull his gun?? Could have been a scary scene. I realize that the chance of any of that happening is slim, but its not worth the risk. Take him down, get him cuffed, and get him off the field as quickly as possibly without injury to any innocent bystanders. Job well done...


I wanted a taser! How was no flag thrown?

[SicEmBaylor]

The fact that you obviously have zero understanding of security is and what it takes to achieve it means that I am not sure why I am going to attempt to explain it again.

But, I'll give it one more shot....

If a guy is acting like that on a sidewalk somewhere with no one around, then yes, he can be apprehended much differently. When said guy is performing the same act in a crowded stadium in today's society with the real threat of bombings, etc., then the standard response by security and police is what we saw yesterday. No, it was not "clearly excessive".

And, as far as your "anyone with a badge can do whatever the hell they want to do", I am at a loss. You have no idea the split second decisions those men and women have to make that can be life or death, the fact that they are asked to serve as legal experts, social workers, paramedics, therapists, and/or animal control on top of performing the duties of a police professional, the strain of the job, terrible hours, working daily with the dredge of society, all while being constantly judged by know-it-alls like you about how they do their job. I would bet if you ask 100 security professionals, you would overwhelmingly get the same answer that the trooper acted correctly. But, I'm sure your response would just be that "they" stick up for each other. Oh well....

I, for one, am fine with our police, TSA, security personnel, etc taking actions to keep me and my family safe.
And, again, I think they are jack booted fascist thugs with a badge but whatever. This security argument for EVERYTHING is so out of hand that this country is barely worth saving anymore. I'm sick and tired of anyone with a badge being allowed to do whatever the hell they want under the broad claim of security and protection.

I would LOVE for some actual f'n common sense to be applied to a situation. Seriously? That guy was a possible terrorist and a security threat? Anyone who believes that or would suspect that in a situation has absolutely no business with a badge.

The police state marches on!

[SanDiegoSoonerGal]

And, again, I think they are jack booted fascist thugs with a badge but whatever. This security argument for EVERYTHING is so out of hand that this country is barely worth saving anymore. I'm sick and tired of anyone with a badge being allowed to do whatever the hell they want under the broad claim of security and protection.

I would LOVE for some actual f'n common sense to be applied to a situation. Seriously? That guy was a possible terrorist and a security threat? Anyone who believes that or would suspect that in a situation has absolutely no business with a badge.

The police state marches on!

Well while on one hand I agree with you more than you might realize about the police state, on the other hand I don't for this situation.

It seems to me that in these days of hyper-heightened security awareness, one possible strategy for a terrorist to deflect suspicion might be to act like a complete goofball. Then, when everyone has dismissed you as a non-threatening goofball, out go the lights.

Unless there's more to this situation than what was captured on the video, the guy got tackled to the ground with possibly a few bruises and the wind knocked out of him. He wasn't tasered or tortured or any limbs broken. Hardly IMO law enforcement crossing well over the boundary between protecting the public and running amok.

And if he had been a terrorist and set off a bomb in my imaginary scenario? You can bet your sweet *** those troopers would have been pilloried for incompetence in not taking him down because they dismissed him as a non-threatening goofball.

[BigTip]

I'm glad the trooper nailed the miscreant. Had it been a "friendly", back-slapping, well-you've-had-your-moment sort of arrest, it would be way more likely to happen again.

Yup, this.

I didn't think about the cop not knowing the extent of the danger. Sounds reasonable though.
But I do agree with hurting an idiot like that out on the field so that anyone else contemplating a similar move thinks long and hard before doing so.
A polite escort off the field would guarantee this crap happening over and over.

[sooneron]

The fact that the dude didn't exactly look like he was there to cheer on his team, didn't help the 5-0's perception before taking him out.

Having said that, LSD is a helluva drug!

[vtsooner21]

Again, I echo Soonerwake's statement concerning law enforcement's split second decisions. Those of us who have never been in situations where split-second assessments will most likely never understand. I say walk a mile in these folks shoes before you pull a "Monday Morning Quarterback" on them. Thank goodness that nothing threatening had happened and the guy obviously was just a moron. But if nothing were done to dissuade people like this acting in this manner? The police are doing their jobs. No matter how things transpire, they are similar to umps or refs; the calls are usually half right, half wrong depending on views from the onlookers.

Boomer

[cleller]

Hell, I don't for a minute think he was a terrorist. Everyone knows you are not allowed on the field. They announce it at every game, though it should be common sense and decorum.

He acted like a fool, and got taught a lesson.

Another little aspect that all are over looking is that he wasn't hurt in the least. Had someone initially just tried to escort him away, what would have happened? He was stoked up, and would have jerked his arm away, struggled, etc. Next stop, wham-bang fat lip, black eye. That make you feel better?

Ah well, this is why we're a nation of "participation trophies".

[badger]

I think troopers should be allowed to do the same to any player that gets flagged for excessive celebrating or taunting. Remember those old Reebok ads with the tackling office linebacker? Brilliant!

[C&CDean]

I think troopers should be allowed to do the same to any player that gets flagged for excessive celebrating or taunting. Remember those old Reebok ads with the tackling office linebacker? Brilliant!

Terrible Terry Tate. Greatness. Here comes da pain baby!!

[Sooner in Tampa]

What a load of ****ing bull****. He was dancing around like a goof. A loaded weapon? Seriously? Christ almightly I'm sick of pigs and their power trips.

Yup...you are sick of pigs and power trips until one of them has to save your ***...or someone you love's ***.

I am sick of punk kids and total disregard for rules and regulations...if punk kids don't like or agree with them...it's fine to just shine them and act like total dooshrockets

Tackle the little bastard like that...so some other dooshrocket in the stands will think twice before they try and replicate that stupid ****

[delhalew]

There is truth on both sides of this thing.

One of my best friends is a great cop. The kind you really want out there. So I know they exist.

On the other hand, everywhere you look the abuses of power are more prevalent and more extreme. Society has given carte blanche to anyone in a security role. It's gone way too far.
This idiot got tackled. They didn't kick in his door, taze him, and shoot his dog.
We have real problems. Fat boy eating some turf isn't one of them.

[BoulderSooner79]

There is truth on both sides of this thing.

One of my best friends is a great cop. The kind you really want out there. So I know they exist.

On the other hand, everywhere you look the abuses of power are more prevalent and more extreme. Society has given carte blanche to anyone in a security role. It's gone way too far.
This idiot got tackled. They didn't kick in his door, taze him, and shoot his dog.
We have real problems. Fat boy eating some turf isn't one of them.

+1 Tackling a knucklehead in front of 80k witnesses isn't a problem. It's the what the bad ones do when they think no one is around that is scary. Cell phone video from witnesses is counterbalancing some of this, but the danger is people becoming numb to it.

[picasso]

I've ridden with my cousin when he was beat cop in Tulsa. He eventually went undercover.
We backed up a call that had two guys in town from Mexico. A trunk full of weed and two pistols underneath the front seat.
Cops don't know you. That's why you don't give them a problem when they stop you.
We aren't that far removed from the kid blowing homself up in '05.
I was at that game and on the west side. That was scary stuff.

[KantoSooner]

Wow, this to four pages and counting?

Look, the cop was arguably a tad over the top but the guy didn't get hurt, plus the guy was clearly in the wrong. If he doesn't want to be apprehended, perhaps roughly, by the constabulary or 'Security', don't run around on the field. It's not a secret. The other 85,000 or so people there apparently got that memo. Along with the home audience.

It's kind of like that Chris Rock video teaching ways to avoid a police beating. It starts with, "Don't commit crimes." And includes "Don't run from the police. If you make a middle aged white man run, he'll be bringing a beating when he catches you."

[sooneron]

Yep, you guys are acting like he knee capped him with a baton or something. Don't want to get a forearm shiver in front of 80K+ ? Don't go on the field.

[picasso]

That's exactly the point. And why did he have it coming? He was a nuisance and an idiot, but he wasn't violent or causing any real harm. Surely he could have been led off the field without being tackled like he was on the FBI's Most Wanted list. It was clearly excessive, but that's the kind of culture we have in the United States now. Anyone with a badge can pretty much do whatever the hell they want to do.
How do you know what he was going to do?
I'd love to see you ride with a cop or a trooper with no backup and assist in the stop.
You would **** your pants.

[SicEmBaylor]

How do you know what he was going to do?
I'd love to see you ride with a cop or a trooper with no backup and assist in the stop.
You would **** your pants.
I would not have **** my pants seeing a drunken buffoon dancing around on a football field. How does any cop ever know what anyone is going to do? Does that justify them throwing you to the ground and pepper spraying you just because you were speeding? Should you be tackled for jaywalking? After all, in this day and age, you could be carrying a gun or even be a terrorist! If your grass isn't cut to a certain length, should you be waterboarded? See, I can take any argument to the point of absurdity as well.

Again, anyone who thinks this guy was a security threat to the safety of everyone in the stadium is a lunatic.

And I went on ride alongs a handful of times with my roommate.

[EatLeadCommie]

SicEm, I'm mindful of police abuses, the spreading police state, etc... But as many have pointed out, that really isn't the case here. No, the guy wasn't a terrorist. But the cop has to keep the potential for such things in mind. It isn't the cop's fault that we live in such times. He has a job to do and he did it.

[SicEmBaylor]

SicEm, I'm mindful of police abuses, the spreading police state, etc... But as many have pointed out, that really isn't the case here. No, the guy wasn't a terrorist. But the cop has to keep the potential for such things in mind. It isn't the cop's fault that we live in such times. He has a job to do and he did it.

If tackling a guy acting like a goof at a football game in Oklahoma because he "might be a terrorist" is justified, then I'd ask you at what point the cops aren't justified in tackling or assaulting ANYONE who does ANYTHING wrong? EVERYONE is a potential terrorist by that standard.....absolutely everyone.

The litmus test should at least be if the guy is acting in an aggressive or threatening manner. If he was, I wouldn't have a problem with the tackling and 'playing it safe.' The guy was just hopping around. For Christ's sake.

[picasso]

If you avoid arrest and especially do so in a speeding vehicle that can kill people then there's a good chance you're going to get scuffed up when you're finally pulled over.
Cops aten't the only ones who slobber knock these dorks who interrupt sports events.
Security personell and even players do the same.
I see your point given your much docemented political opinion on here but you're absolutely clueless about how one has to do their job when keeping the peace.

[SicEmBaylor]

If you avoid arrest and especially do so in a speeding vehicle that can kill people then there's a good chance you're going to get scuffed up when you're finally pulled over.
Cops aten't the only ones who slobber knock these dorks who interrupt sports events.
Security personell and even players do the same.
I see your point given your much docemented political opinion on here but you're absolutely clueless about how one has to do their job when keeping the peace.

Was the guy on the field avoiding arrest or evading? No. Would the officer have been justified in blind-side tackling him if the idiot had been evading or avoiding arrest? Absolutely.

[Soonerus]

If tackling a guy acting like a goof at a football game in Oklahoma because he "might be a terrorist" is justified, then I'd ask you at what point the cops aren't justified in tackling or assaulting ANYONE who does ANYTHING wrong? EVERYONE is a potential terrorist by that standard.....absolutely everyone.

The litmus test should at least be if the guy is acting in an aggressive or threatening manner. If he was, I wouldn't have a problem with the tackling and 'playing it safe.' The guy was just hopping around. For Christ's sake.

This type of attitude is what is wrong in our country these days...

[EatLeadCommie]

If tackling a guy acting like a goof at a football game in Oklahoma because he "might be a terrorist" is justified, then I'd ask you at what point the cops aren't justified in tackling or assaulting ANYONE who does ANYTHING wrong? EVERYONE is a potential terrorist by that standard.....absolutely everyone.

The litmus test should at least be if the guy is acting in an aggressive or threatening manner. If he was, I wouldn't have a problem with the tackling and 'playing it safe.' The guy was just hopping around. For Christ's sake.

You are failing to consider context. This isn't just a guy acting like a jackass. It's a guy acting like a jackass on a football field in front of 88,000 people and TV cameras. It's a big stage and the potential for something big and bad exists.

[picasso]

No guys. That does not give up this guy's right to civil liberty.
That trooper should have kindly held his hand on the way out and scored him some donuts.

[SicEmBaylor]

No guys. That does not give up this guy's right to civil liberty.
That trooper should have kindly held his hand on the way out and scored him some donuts.
Do the cops not have another way of taking someone into custody without tackling them to the ground from behind?
It was my understanding they routinely do this every day, but I guess that's no longer policy in this day and age where everyone is a terrorist.

[olevetonahill]

Used to be a cop, I wouldnt have handled it that way But thats Me, I really aint got a Prob with the way He did handle it.

[rock on sooner]

Yep, you guys are acting like he knee capped him with a baton or something. Don't want to get a forearm shiver in front of 80K+ ? Don't go on the field.

I think a lot of folks have lost sight of some of the other instances of
"streaking", attention hunting in front of big crowds, etc. How many times
has there been an instance where the offender outruns security or it takes
more than two or three security people to corral the offender? What the
trooper did was make certain this guy was "one and done". It was a body
slam, he didn't use a Taser or stun gun or baton or even a "nightstick" (Are
those used anymore?).

[8timechamps]

Going on the field is against the rules. He chose to break the rules. He got penalized. I have absolutely no problem with that.

Sic'Em, you're trying to make this too complicated. There really isn't an epidemic of out-of-control cops in this country. In this case, does it matter that he was just a drunken fool? He broke the rules and got taken down. It wasn't like he was in the stands and got dropped.

I've never been tackled/harassed by the cops. Sure, I had some times in my youth when I came close, but I have no doubt that was because I was instigating. I don't break the rules, so I don't get tackled at the 10 yard line of Owen Field.

[sooner46]

Your right , SicEmBaylor. Speeding, does that justify them throwing you to the ground and pepper spraying you, but the way you act and your attitude after being pulled over may. How does any cop ever know what anyone is going to do? They do not that is why they have to be ready for anything.

My son is in law enforcement and the stories he tells me “scares the living daylights out of me”. I have stated before he has told me he has to pull his weapon 6 to 7 times a shift, he has never shot anyone to date. He had a man in hand cuffs one time the man put his head thru the back side window in a police car to try to make it look like he was beating him up. Trouble was for this guy was my sons car was setting behind this car with the dash cam on. It showed my son did not do it, later he said another deputy tried to kick him, again another deputies car was setting behind his. Now the strange stuff when they got there the guy was naked he lived with his parents, my son had to let him gets some clothes on. His girlfriend lived there also and she called the police and wanted help to get some of her stuff out. She should have had him arrested for what he was trying to do, he could have when free once he settled down and she got her stuff, he was arrested for breaking the window. This is not the first time he has had to deal with someone naked. He works in the worst part of the county. As for me I would probably just shot the guy when I first seen him, but that is the difference between me and my son, that is why he is the cop and I am not.

There are some bad cops out but most are good we just do not hear about them. Just like I am sure there are some good Baylor fans out there we just do not hear or read about them.

[tulsaoilerfan]

No guys. That does not give up this guy's right to civil liberty.
That trooper should have kindly held his hand on the way out and scored him some donuts.

Heupel would not have shared

[tulsaoilerfan]

One should not run on the field during a sporting event; do any of the old timers remember Mike Curtis of the Colts? He freakin clotheslined a guy that ran on the field

[SicEmBaylor]

One should not run on the field during a sporting event; do any of the old timers remember Mike Curtis of the Colts? He freakin clotheslined a guy that ran on the field
That's a different situation. If one of the players or coaches had tackled him, I couldn't care less.

[cleller]

One should not run on the field during a sporting event; do any of the old timers remember Mike Curtis of the Colts? He freakin clotheslined a guy that ran on the field

This is great. More.

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[soonertodd]

One should not run on the field during a sporting event; do any of the old timers remember Mike Curtis of the Colts? He freakin clotheslined a guy that ran on the field

Yes that was a good one. Another good one is James Harrison of the Steelers body slamming a fan.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fC3xNSiRTDc#

[soonertodd]

That's a different situation. If one of the players or coaches had tackled him, I couldn't care less.
How the hell is that different? You really have a grudge against law enforcement don't you? Did you get busted blowing the baylor mascot or something? Quit trolling on here

[olevetonahill]

Your right , SicEmBaylor. Speeding, does that justify them throwing you to the ground and pepper spraying you, but the way you act and your attitude after being pulled over may. How does any cop ever know what anyone is going to do? They do not that is why they have to be ready for anything.


My son is in law enforcement and the stories he tells me “scares the living daylights out of me”. I have stated before he has told me he has to pull his weapon 6 to 7 times a shift, he has never shot anyone to date. He had a man in hand cuffs one time the man put his head thru the back side window in a police car to try to make it look like he was beating him up. Trouble was for this guy was my sons car was setting behind this car with the dash cam on. It showed my son did not do it, later he said another deputy tried to kick him, again another deputies car was setting behind his. Now the strange stuff when they got there the guy was naked he lived with his parents, my son had to let him gets some clothes on. His girlfriend lived there also and she called the police and wanted help to get some of her stuff out. She should have had him arrested for what he was trying to do, he could have when free once he settled down and she got her stuff, he was arrested for breaking the window. This is not the first time he has had to deal with someone naked. He works in the worst part of the county. As for me I would probably just shot the guy when I first seen him, but that is the difference between me and my son, that is why he is the cop and I am not.

There are some bad cops out but most are good we just do not hear about them. Just like I am sure there are some good Baylor fans out there we just do not hear or read about them.

This just aint right, Why does he have to pull his weapon that often? I call BS or your son is a Power Hog.

[SicEmBaylor]

How the hell is that different? You really have a grudge against law enforcement don't you? Did you get busted blowing the baylor mascot or something? Quit trolling on here

I don't have a grudge against law enforcement at all. I respect the hell out of them so long as they don't abuse their authority, but I believe that when you are sanctioned by the government...you take an oath...you carry a gun and a badge...and you are entrusted with authority then you're held to a higher standard than everyone else. It's absolutely essential for the proper function of a free society to have a restrained government and law enforcement that remains constrained by the Constitution, the law, and (even more importantly) common sense.

If the guy had resisted arrest or was posing an obvious threat then I'd have absolutely no issue here and would be applauding the trooper's actions.

[SicEmBaylor]

My roommate shot and killed a suspect his rookie year on the force, and it was completely 100% justified. I also have a cousin with Tulsa PD, and my great-grandfather was the Sheriff of Pushmataha County for a very long time. Have another cousin that's a military cop, but she doesn't count. :D

[cleller]

My roommate shot and killed a suspect his rookie year on the force, and it was completely 100% justified. I also have a cousin with Tulsa PD, and my great-grandfather was the Sheriff of Pushmataha County for a very long time. Have another cousin that's a military cop, but she doesn't count. :D

I bet they'd just love all the profanity, "pigs", "fat ***", and jack-booted thug type comments you hurl at them and their coworkers, then.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Heh. He's afraid of losing his job now...

http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/norman/ou-fan-defends-act-after-running-on-field-and-getting-tackled-by-trooper/-/11778384/23040000/-/d37xlwz/-/index.html

[cleller]

They did a good bit on "the tackle" this morning on The Animal. One area we are ahead of the SEC: sideline trooper tackling.

Also crossed into the NFL whinefest going on, and Trent Williams complaining about the ref cussing him. When asked why the ref could possibly have been so upset to do this Williams said "I never disrespected him like he disrepected me." They pointed out this sounded like the two little boys fighting in the back seat to the point you have to pull the car over.

Also touched on the NFL player incessant jawing at each other, yelling at refs, lobbying for penalties, etc.

Oh ye generation of whiners.

[picasso]

My roommate shot and killed a suspect his rookie year on the force, and it was completely 100% justified. I also have a cousin with Tulsa PD, and my great-grandfather was the Sheriff of Pushmataha County for a very long time. Have another cousin that's a military cop, but she doesn't count. :D

Well then you are justified in your ignorance.
I suggest that you ride with them sometime.
In a high crime area. Not Antlers.
I had a trooper put his hand on his weapon the very first time I was stopped.

[jkjsooner]

That is exactly what I expected to hear from you. The reason he was tackled and escorted off the way he was is simple. You have no idea what he is going to do and who he may go after. He could have pulled a weapon, bomb, etc. Sure, he looks like a dork innocently running around on the field, but you never know. The job of the police in that case is to use one step higher on the use of force continuum to subdue the guy quickly. The guy did his job, and did it well. Can you imagine if the trooper had strolled up to have a chat and the guy pulls a knife in a crowded stadium with players, coaches, and officials in harms way, be forced to pull his gun?? Could have been a scary scene. I realize that the chance of any of that happening is slim, but its not worth the risk. Take him down, get him cuffed, and get him off the field as quickly as possibly without injury to any innocent bystanders. Job well done...

This is such a load of crap. If a guy were going to pull a gun and start shooting people, he wouldn't run into the middle of the field and dance and bring as much attention to himself as possible first.

I'm not really against the cop tackling the kid but I am against the line of reasoning used above.

My guess is that the cop wanted to avoid the "cops chasing drunk in the middle of the field" comedy routine.

[David Earl]

If you don't want to get tackled, don't run out onto the field.

[picasso]

This is such a load of crap. If a guy were going to pull a gun and start shooting people, he wouldn't run into the middle of the field and dance and bring as much attention to himself as possible first.

I'm not really against the cop tackling the kid but I am against the line of reasoning used above.

My guess is that the cop wanted to avoid the "cops chasing drunk in the middle of the field" comedy routine.
Your guess. That's the thing.
I just saw a different angle on the news. The trooper wasn't even going full steam when he tackled him.
Whussies.

[SoonerKnight]

It was excessive, but not egregious.

You need to read the definition of excessive force. That was not it!

[SoonerKnight]

If tackling a guy acting like a goof at a football game in Oklahoma because he "might be a terrorist" is justified, then I'd ask you at what point the cops aren't justified in tackling or assaulting ANYONE who does ANYTHING wrong? EVERYONE is a potential terrorist by that standard.....absolutely everyone.

The litmus test should at least be if the guy is acting in an aggressive or threatening manner. If he was, I wouldn't have a problem with the tackling and 'playing it safe.' The guy was just hopping around. For Christ's sake.

Sicem,

You miss the point he interrupted a game. He was not allowed on the field and justifiable force was used to subdue and remove the idiot! End of story. No abuse hear and no a cop is not going to ask you nicely to leave they are going to remove you. If a cop ever says to you "I am now asking......" you better do it because the next move is going to hurt you worse then them!!! HA!!!

[SoonerKnight]

Used to be a cop, I wouldnt have handled it that way But thats Me, I really aint got a Prob with the way He did handle it.

I would have given the situation. Element of suprise and all.

[olevetonahill]

I would have given the situation. Element of suprise and all.

Yea But NOW Im OLD and FAT LOL

[SoonerKnight]

Yea But NOW Im OLD and FAT LOL

Yeah well I am 6'5" and still would have tackled him. The guy even said he was not drunk guess you could say he is just stupid!!!

[SoonerKnight]

I don't have a grudge against law enforcement at all. I respect the hell out of them so long as they don't abuse their authority, but I believe that when you are sanctioned by the government...you take an oath...you carry a gun and a badge...and you are entrusted with authority then you're held to a higher standard than everyone else. It's absolutely essential for the proper function of a free society to have a restrained government and law enforcement that remains constrained by the Constitution, the law, and (even more importantly) common sense.


Guess your just one of those that allows the cops to do their job as long as it does not affect you sensibillities!!! Grow a pair dude!! LE is not their to be your best buddy and beg you to comply. LE gets called out the situation is already bad!

[olevetonahill]

Yeah well I am 6'5" and still would have tackled him. The guy even said he was not drunk guess you could say he is just stupid!!!

Think he admitted that dint he? LOL

[SanDiegoSoonerGal]

He also said he expected nothing less than being tackled. So if he's not wringing his hands over it, I'm not sure why anyone else is.

[tooslow]

Dude didn't sound very bright in the interview. Also, the angle shown in the news footage doesn't look nearly as bad as the original. Just a chest check from behind. The trooper even extended his hands to the ground to make sure his body weight didn't land on the guy.

[olevetonahill]

He also said he expected nothing less than being tackled. So if he's not wringing his hands over it, I'm not sure why anyone else is.

Yup.

[badger]

It could have been worse. If he did that at Kyle Field the corps would have probably killed him with their little uniform sabres

[olevetonahill]

It could have been worse. If he did that at Kyle Field the corps would have probably killed him with their little uniform sabres

Or Grabbin his crotch !

[SoonerKnight]

He just wanted to meet Trooper Orr!!! HA!

[birddog]

I don't have a grudge against law enforcement at all. I respect the hell out of them so long as they don't abuse their authority, but I believe that when you are sanctioned by the government...you take an oath...you carry a gun and a badge...and you are entrusted with authority then you're held to a higher standard than everyone else. It's absolutely essential for the proper function of a free society to have a restrained government and law enforcement that remains constrained by the Constitution, the law, and (even more importantly) common sense.

If the guy had resisted arrest or was posing an obvious threat then I'd have absolutely no issue here and would be applauding the trooper's actions.
Sic, you ever stop to think that trooper orrs reaction will force other jackasses to reconsider ever trespassing during a sports event? We never know someone's intentions when they do this. Guys need to be taken down immediately to diffuse the situation and ensure others are safe. No big deal, to me. If a guy is nude maybe you let him flop around a second or 2 before strategically leveling him.

[olevetonahill]

Sic, you ever stop to think that trooper orrs reaction will force other jackasses to reconsider ever trespassing during a sports event? We never know someone's intentions when they do this. Guys need to be taken down immediately to diffuse the situation and ensure others are safe. No big deal, to me. If a guy is nude maybe you let him flop around a second or 2 before strategically leveling him.

Thats precisely why I SHOOT trespassers on my property. It discourages others from doing it . LOLOLOL

[sooner46]

olevetonahill

That is just it he is not a “Power Hog”, he has more restraint than I do, again that is why he is the cop and I am not. It is the type of code for the call they give him that requires him to pull his weapon when he exits the car. As I stated he works in the worst part of the county, until he gets on scene and sorts out the problem. It usually turns out to be an argument between some people, no weapons involved, but the one time he does not follow the code he might get killed. The code comes from what the people tell them when they call in. Like someone is being murdered, in that part of the county that happens a lot. I do not live in that part of the county and that is the reason. He has had his share of hand to hand fights (has won all of them) and not shot anyone yet.

He is a good cop; I do not say that just because he is my son but from the stories he has told me and restraint he has shown in those cases. Yes, I am the one that ask, he does not just volunteer the information. Yes, I know you were a cop.

[olevetonahill]

olevetonahill

That is just it he is not a “Power Hog”, he has more restraint than I do, again that is why he is the cop and I am not. It is the type of code for the call they give him that requires him to pull his weapon when he exits the car. As I stated he works in the worst part of the county, until he gets on scene and sorts out the problem. It usually turns out to be an argument between some people, no weapons involved, but the one time he does not follow the code he might get killed. The code comes from what the people tell them when they call in. Like someone is being murdered, in that part of the county that happens a lot. I do not live in that part of the county and that is the reason. He has had his share of hand to hand fights (has won all of them) and not shot anyone yet.

He is a good cop; I do not say that just because he is my son but from the stories he has told me and restraint he has shown in those cases. Yes, I am the one that ask, he does not just volunteer the information. Yes, I know you were a cop.

Things May have changed in the 30 years since I was on , But we dint have a CODE for Pulling our weapons . What County?
I was a city Cop In Elk City during the Oil Boom years of the early 80s late 70s . Lot of Crazy shat went on then also.

But Everything seems to have changed , Dint mean to Insult yer son. But that many times seemed Way excessive to me. Hell I bet I dint Pull mine that many times in a Month er better.
Tell him Ima Pray he stays Safe,

PS I did slip that thong several times a Night tho LOL

[sooner46]

Can I just say a county in Texas and that should explain a lot. It did not use be that bad here. The crime has gotten worst in my side of the county. I wished I was still in Oklahoma.

[olevetonahill]

Can I just say a county in Texas and that should explain a lot. It did not use be that bad here. The crime has gotten worst in my side of the county. I wished I was still in Oklahoma.

Thats Cool. I couldnt imagine having to live there.
Good luck.

[sooner46]

I only do because of health and the fact my home burn down last year in that fire around Mannford, Ok. I live with my youngest daughter and 9 grandchildren. LOL

[olevetonahill]

I only do because of health and the fact my home burn down last year in that fire around Mannford, Ok. I live with my youngest daughter and 9 grandchildren. LOL

I couldnt imagine THAT either. I love My Grand kids but No way could I live with them
Im too stuck in my ways after living alone here for 15 years in the woods.

My Shack ever Burn down Ill just build a Lean-to until I can rebuild

[SoonerKnight]

I couldnt imagine THAT either. I love My Grand kids but No way could I live with them
Im too stuck in my ways after living alone here for 15 years in the woods.

My Shack ever Burn down Ill just build a Lean-to until I can rebuild


Like a Felony Stop Olevet. Usually dispatch gets the info wrong at least in my kneck of the woods.

[olevetonahill]

Like a Felony Stop Olevet. Usually dispatch gets the info wrong at least in my kneck of the woods.

That makes more sense, Or rather makes it clearer to me. I was misunderstandin, My Bad.

[cleller]

I only do because of health and the fact my home burn down last year in that fire around Mannford, Ok. I live with my youngest daughter and 9 grandchildren. LOL

Sounds like you've paid your dues. You get extra votes here.

[olevetonahill]

Sounds like you've paid your dues. You get extra votes here.

Yup, And sounds Like hes STILL paying http://www.olevetpossehideout.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

[8timechamps]

Heh. He's afraid of losing his job now...

http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/norman/ou-fan-defends-act-after-running-on-field-and-getting-tackled-by-trooper/-/11778384/23040000/-/d37xlwz/-/index.html

That's funny. I liked this part:


"It was one of those things. I was jumping up and down for joy and next thing you know I was jumping over that fence,"


I've been to a lot of sporting events, and I've been pretty excited at many of them, yet I never found myself on the playing field.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Well, back in 84 I was at the Myriad for the VH concert and somewhere during the middle of their set, EVH came out alone and set down on the edge of the stage to play his guitar. It was cool, and I got so excited jumping up and down that I found myself on the stage setting next to him. I was pumped, but the security wasn't. I expected the security to rough me up, and they did! I got 6 wooden shampoos, 3 black eyes, handcuffed and hauled off to jail. I was afraid I was going to lose my job, but then I remembered I didn't have one cause I was still in school.

This really didn't happen.

[cleller]

That hippie better not hang out watching NASCAR or bull riding.

[ouduckhunter]

For one beer, that was a good drunk.

[8timechamps]

Well, back in 84 I was at the Myriad for the VH concert and somewhere during the middle of their set, EVH came out alone and set down on the edge of the stage to play his guitar. It was cool, and I got so excited jumping up and down that I found myself on the stage setting next to him. I was pumped, but the security wasn't. I expected the security to rough me up, and they did! I got 6 wooden shampoos, 3 black eyes, handcuffed and hauled off to jail. I was afraid I was going to lose my job, but then I remembered I didn't have one cause I was still in school.

This really didn't happen.

I was with you until the 3 black eyes. I thought maybe you were sexually assaulted by Myriad security.

[olevetonahill]

I was with you until the 3 black eyes. I thought maybe you were sexually assaulted by Myriad security.

He was, Thats the Only part thats TRUE.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I was with you until the 3 black eyes. I thought maybe you were sexually assaulted by Myriad security.

You ain't never had your *** whooped so bad you had a black eye on top of a black eye? :D

[Turd_Ferguson]

He was, Thats the Only part thats TRUE.

and all this time, I thought that was a PR-24...son of a ...

[olevetonahill]

and all this time, I thought that was a PR-24...son of a ...

Thats where ya got yer 3rd Black Eye!

[cleller]

They just talked to The Hippie on The Morning Animal. Ronald Butch Mais. Pretty good piece. Hippie was very personable, polite, kinda funny. Had no gripes with anyone. He said he "would expect nothing less" on the OU field than the tackle he got.
He even went out of his way to mention how nice the police that handled the matter were to him. Guess he's more of a full grown man than some of the critics around here.

After hearing him, I got no beef with him. He said he's talked to all his superiors, and they've told him he won't be fired, but he's clearly still worried about it. Is married with 3 kids (two teenagers). He's ready to pay his fine, and go to work. Can't complain about that.

I tried to find his Facebook page, and invite him over to join the melee, but couldn't locate it. He mentioned he now has the picture of Orr tackling him on there.

[SouthFortySooner]

Someone says they knew he wasn't out there to shoot someone because if he were he would have been more sneaky.

Yeah. The kid in NJ who was 'only' going to kill himself and meant no one else any harm, goes to a mega mall to do it. You got this figured out, right?

[olevetonahill]

They just talked to The Hippie on The Morning Animal. Ronald Butch Mais. Pretty good piece. Hippie was very personable, polite, kinda funny. Had no gripes with anyone. He said he "would expect nothing less" on the OU field than the tackle he got.
He even went out of his way to mention how nice the police that handled the matter were to him. Guess he's more of a full grown man than some of the critics around here.

After hearing him, I got no beef with him. He said he's talked to all his superiors, and they've told him he won't be fired, but he's clearly still worried about it. Is married with 3 kids (two teenagers). He's ready to pay his fine, and go to work. Can't complain about that.

I tried to find his Facebook page, and invite him over to join the melee, but couldn't locate it. He mentioned he now has the picture of Orr tackling him on there.

Good enough fer me, Lock this sombitch up.