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okie52
9/24/2013, 10:08 AM
For Migrants, New Land of Opportunity Is Mexico

Andrea Bruce for The New York Times
By DAMIEN CAVE
Published: September 21, 2013 211 Comments

MEXICO CITY — Mexico, whose economic woes have pushed millions of people north, is increasingly becoming an immigrant destination. The country’s documented foreign-born population nearly doubled between 2000 and 2010, and officials now say the pace is accelerating as broad changes in the global economy create new dynamics of migration.
Country at a Crossroads

Rising wages in China and higher transportation costs have made Mexican manufacturing highly competitive again, with some projections suggesting it is already cheaper than China for many industries serving the American market. Europe is sputtering, pushing workers away. And while Mexico’s economy is far from trouble free, its growth easily outpaced the giants of the hemisphere — the United States, Canada and Brazil — in 2011 and 2012, according to International Monetary Fund data, making the country more attractive to fortune seekers worldwide.

The new arrivals range in class from executives to laborers; Mexican officials said Friday that residency requests had grown by 10 percent since November, when a new law meant to streamline the process took effect. And they are coming from nearly everywhere.

The shift with Mexico’s northern neighbor is especially stark. Americans now make up more than three-quarters of Mexico’s roughly one million documented foreigners, up from around two-thirds in 2000, leading to a historic milestone: more Americans have been added to the population of Mexico over the past few years than Mexicans have been added to the population of the United States, according to government data in both nations.

Mexican migration to the United States has reached an equilibrium, with about as many Mexicans moving north from 2005 to 2010 as those returning south. The number of Americans legally living and working in Mexico grew to more than 70,000 in 2012 from 60,000 in 2009, a number that does not include many students and retirees, those on tourist visas or the roughly 350,000 American children who have arrived since 2005 with their Mexican parents.

“Mexico is changing; all the numbers point in that direction,” said Ernesto Rodríguez Chávez, the former director of migration policy at Mexico’s Interior Ministry. He added: “There’s been an opening to the world in every way — culturally, socially and economically.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/22/world/americas/for-migrants-new-land-of-opportunity-is-mexico.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0



Of course there are those crazy Mexicans that are against immigration:


Mexico’s immigrant population is still relatively small. Some officials estimate that four million foreigners have lived in Mexico over the past few years, but the 2010 census counted about one million, making around 1 percent of the country foreign-born compared with 13 percent in the United States. Many Mexicans, especially among the poor, see foreigners as novel and unfamiliar invaders.

Race, ethnicity and nationality matter. Most of the immigrants who have the resources or corporate sponsorship to gain legal residency here come from the United States and Europe. The thousands of Central American immigrants coming to Mexico without visas — to work on farms or in cities, or to get to the United States — are often greeted with beatings by the Mexican police or intense pressure to work for drug cartels. Koreans also say they often hear the xenophobic refrain, “Go back to your own country.”.

KantoSooner
9/24/2013, 04:42 PM
All the more reason we need a rational immigration/border policy. The Canadian/US border is a fantastic economic engine that benefits both sides tremendously.
Although the Mexican/US border will never be an analog to that, it's not hard to foresee a time 20 or 25 years from now in which the border is a vibrant place. It's not guaranteed, but it very well could happen and the trends are leaning more that way than not.
It will be important to have an efficient and transparent immigration/guest worker program in place to maximize the economic benefits to both sides as that new reality takes hold.

okie52
9/25/2013, 11:27 AM
Really no border problems with Canada to speak of because their economy and standard of living are roughly equal to our own. Mexico, on the other hand, has ****holes like juarez and nuevo laredo on our border that are a testament to the need for border security.

I'm all for the expansion of trade between the 2 countries but it shouldn't require being blind to the problems with Mexico.

SoonerStormchaser
9/25/2013, 02:10 PM
Other than the prescription type, Canada doesn't have much for drug running into the US either when compared to Mexico.

SanJoaquinSooner
9/26/2013, 07:35 AM
Really no border problems with Canada to speak of because their economy and standard of living are roughly equal to our own. Mexico, on the other hand, has ****holes like juarez and nuevo laredo on our border that are a testament to the need for border security.

I'm all for the expansion of trade between the 2 countries but it shouldn't require being blind to the problems with Mexico.

No problems? There are lots of unemployed American comedians because the Canadians get all the SNL jobs.

okie52
9/26/2013, 11:48 AM
Fukin canadians...

BetterSoonerThanLater
9/26/2013, 04:16 PM
Canada...i don't know why we let you be a country.