Establishment GOP Has Thrown Down The Gauntlet

[FaninAma]

No, not to Obama and the Democrats but to members of their own party who feel civil liberties are the basis of our Republic. On Fox News Sunday dickhead Peter King very negatively attacked Paul Rand in terms he did not use to describe the views of Democratswho felt the same way as Rand.

Obviously the Inside the Beltway Establishment Republicans feel more threatened by members of their own party than they do those they supposedly disagree with on most issues. Is there any more proof needed that the establishment GOP is a huge part of the ruling class that has gotten us $17 trillion in debt and are more worried about holding onto power than making good decisions for the country?

[diverdog]

No, not to Obama and the Democrats but to members of their own party who feel civil liberties are the basis of our Republic. On Fox News Sunday dickhead Peter King very negatively attacked Paul Rand in terms he did not use to describe the views of Democratswho felt the same way as Rand.

Obviously the Inside the Beltway Establishment Republicans feel more threatened by members of their own party than they do those they supposedly disagree with on most issues. Is there any more proof needed that the establishment GOP is a huge part of the ruling class that has gotten us $17 trillion in debt and are more worried about holding onto power than making good decisions for the country?

Guess which side will win?

[SicEmBaylor]

Guess which side will win?
It could go either way at this point. Right now, RLC-type Republicans are gaining a lot of grassroots allies who may not be (strictly speaking) straight-up libertarians. Fan and I are probably good examples of that as we're both paleoconservatives and what's left of us have pretty well cast our lot with the RLC wing. Not to speak for Fan, but I believe it's correct he'd describe himself as such.

Who will win? That's tough. I'm a naturally horribly pessimistic and cynical guy who has a knack for picking the losing side of everything. The establishment/neocons certainly have the "high ground" and the numbers within the party which gives them a great advantage, but I think fundamentally more of the grass roots would rather see RLC-types.

Ultimately, I think a new leader for the party will emerge who talks the talk of the anti-establishment/RLC wing but is ultimately a run of the mill pro-big government establishment Republican who will successfully fool the grassroots into supporting him. The party will end up nominating someone like that for President over a true believer like Paul, Lee, Cruz, Amash, etc. etc.

The real battle isn't with Democrats. I've been saying that for years. The real battle is against Republicans who claim to be for limited-government and individual-liberty but are nothing more than pro-government charlatans. They are wolves in sheep clothing, and they need to be (figuratively speaking of course) hunted down. This is what so infuriates me about guys like RLIMC who spend so much time screaming about the "liberals" and "socialists" in the Democrat party while giving a complete pass and ignoring all of the big-government tyrants on his side just because they have an (R) next to their name as if politics is a zero sum-game. That mentality has to change. The battle isn't against a party; the battle is against certain ideologies and world views regardless of whether it's on the left or right. That's what so many fail to understand...when it comes to protecting the country it isn't about party it's about ideas.

I really hope the Republican Party reinvents itself. I truly do. The only hope it has left is to truly truly adopt a platform emphasizing individual-liberty and limited government that prevails over the interests of certain segments of the party....namely the evangelicals. The party absolutely has to let people live and be free regardless of religion, sexual orientation, skin color, gender, etc. And it has to stop promoting this liberal Wilsonian foreign policy abroad and big-spending/big-government at home. Otherwise the party will die and deservedly so.

[okie52]

Guess which side will win?

Sounds like a Christie cop out.

Guess when voting doesn't matter....?

[okie52]

BTW-Priebus sucks...

[SicEmBaylor]

BTW-Priebus sucks...
This x10000 He's a hypocritical little ****head.

[FaninAma]

Guess which side will win?

Both establishment political parties win....... your kids and grandkids lose.

Sicem pretty much sums up my perspective on the current political process. The Reagan revolution succumbed pretty early to an inside attack by the name of GHWB and GWB.

[okie52]

"Using the word 'self-deportation' — it's a horrific comment to make," Priebus said, according to Business Insider. "I don't think it has anything to do with our party. When a candidate makes those comments, obviously, it hurts us."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/priebus-calls-self-deportation-horrific-racist

Wanting illegals to leave is "horrific". What an absolute pussi.