One guy breaks up anti immigration rally...

[IGotNoTiming]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aaf_1360011654

Some language... just a heads up..

[KantoSooner]

Heh! Beautiful!

Notice how nobody had much of an answer for him?

[IGotNoTiming]

Yeah totally.....

[olevetonahill]

Heh! Beautiful!

Notice how nobody had much of an answer for him?

I would have just axed him the question of who Invited HIM here?

[okie52]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aaf_1360011654

Some language... just a heads up..

He broke it up??? He looked like the only one that was leaving.

He obviously is from an "uncivilzed tribe".

[okie52]

I would have just axed him the question of who Invited HIM here?

Nobody asked him how many Indians his tribe killed for their land....

[okie52]

By the way...just for clarification as there always seems to be some confusion among libs...it appears that was an anti illegal immigration rally...not an anti immigration rally.

The difference is often lost on many.

[diverdog]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aaf_1360011654

Some language... just a heads up..

Damn that was funny. "we should have put up a sign saying we do not want you sons of bitches here!". Funny chit.

[KantoSooner]

I have a great Tshirt. 4 warriors in their full regalia.

Under them: "Homeland Security. Fighting Illegal Immigration Since 1492"

[IGotNoTiming]

By the way...just for clarification as there always seems to be some confusion among libs...it appears that was an anti illegal immigration rally...not an anti immigration rally.

The difference is often lost on many.

Not sure it matter to that guy....

[FaninAma]

Nobody asked him how many Indians his tribe killed for their land....

I would have asked to see his CDIB card and if he wasn't at least 1/8 Native American I would have called him a fraud.

[Breadburner]

Did someone fart....???

[KantoSooner]

I would have asked to see his CDIB card and if he wasn't at least 1/8 Native American I would have called him a fraud.

Why would that matter? Are outsiders still trying to say who or what constitutes a tribal member? Were the pretty damn Scottish Rosses any less Cherokee? Quanah Parker any less Comanche?

It's kind of like legal vs illegal immigration. If you're invited in, you're in. If you come in and squat, you're a squatter, an illegal.

[KantoSooner]

Notice how I worked 'squat' in right behind 'fart'?

Sometimes I'm a freakin' artist.

[FaninAma]

Why would that matter? Are outsiders still trying to say who or what constitutes a tribal member? Were the pretty damn Scottish Rosses any less Cherokee? Quanah Parker any less Comanche?

It's kind of like legal vs illegal immigration. If you're invited in, you're in. If you come in and squat, you're a squatter, an illegal.
So, if you are genetically 7/8 non-Native American why would you
identify yourself a Native American? Here's the primary reason: $$!!

i can guarantee you there are a lot of people walking around
who are genetically more Native-American who don't identify
themselves as such than many with CDIB cards. Arizona State
ran afoul of the Navajo tribe in the 1990's because they tested
blood samples without the Tribe's permission and discovered
Several individuals on the Navajo tribal rolls who didn't have the
DNA markers for being Navajo or Native American.

BTW, I have several 1st, 2nd degree and other relatives who have a
CDIB card. My cousin who's mother is my mother's twin sister has a
son getting financial grants at OU via their CDIB card because my
great Grandfather's name on my mother's side appears on the Dawe's
roll. Several are seen for free at the local Indian healthcare facility.
Most of them are blond-haired and blue-eyed just like me. I also worked
in the Indian Healthcare system for 6 years and know for a fact that they
will see individuals with CDIb cards that list the holders percentage of
""Indian Blood" at 1/1024.

The guy in the video is just representative of more of the same PC BS.

[soonerhubs]

...and the award for father of the year goes to...

[KantoSooner]

So, if you are genetically 7/8 non-Native American why would you
identify yourself a Native American? Here's the primary reason: $$!!

i can guarantee you there are a lot of people walking around
who are genetically more Native-American who don't identify
themselves as such than many with CDIB cards. Arizona State
ran afoul of the Navajo tribe in the 1990's because they tested
blood samples without the Tribe's permission and discovered
Several individuals on the Navajo tribal rolls who didn't have the
DNA markers for being Navajo or Native American.

BTW, I have several 1st, 2nd degree and other relatives who have a
CDIB card. My cousin who's mother is my mother's twin sister has a
son getting financial grants at OU via their CDIB card because my
great Grandfather's name on my mother's side appears on the Dawe's
roll. Several are seen for free at the local Indian healthcare facility.
Most of them are blond-haired and blue-eyed just like me. I also worked
in the Indian Healthcare system for 6 years and know for a fact that they
will see individuals with CDIb cards that list the holders percentage of
""Indian Blood" at 1/1024.

The guy in the video is just representative of more of the same PC BS.

And what i don't get is why that's 'PC BS'? So far as I'm concerned, the tribes ought to make their own rules about who is and isn't a member. And they might very well include spouses or descendents with little or no 'indian' blood. The point is, it's up to the tribe to determine who is and who isn't.
If you're getting $ benefits, Merry Christmas. It'll be the first time in a long long time that being 'indian' was a benefit.

Here's the deal: We (and yes I'm on both sides of this debate, as are most 'indians' these days, full bloods are extraordinarily rare, more so full bloods of a single tribe), stole the land from them. Fair enough, that's how life has worked for the last umpteen thousand years. But our white ancestors were chicken **** about saying so. They wanted it to be sanctioned as a 'good act'. So the morons insisted on having 'treaties'. More stupid, them. On the basis of these treaty rights, the tribes now have identities, can engineer cash streams and do a bit to support their people. They also get limited self rule.
Had white society been worried about that they should have simply said, 'Hi, I'm a genocidal thief, live with it' and all would have been cool legally.
It's amusing that their descendants now have to deal with the fall out from their hypocritical BS.

[FaninAma]

And what i don't get is why that's 'PC BS'? So far as I'm concerned, the tribes ought to make their own rules about who is and isn't a member. And they might very well include spouses or descendents with little or no 'indian' blood. The point is, it's up to the tribe to determine who is and who isn't.
If you're getting $ benefits, Merry Christmas. It'll be the first time in a long long time that being 'indian' was a benefit.

Here's the deal: We (and yes I'm on both sides of this debate, as are most 'indians' these days, full bloods are extraordinarily rare, more so full bloods of a single tribe), stole the land from them. Fair enough, that's how life has worked for the last umpteen thousand years. But our white ancestors were chicken **** about saying so. They wanted it to be sanctioned as a 'good act'. So the morons insisted on having 'treaties'. More stupid, them. On the basis of these treaty rights, the tribes now have identities, can engineer cash streams and do a bit to support their people. They also get limited self rule.
Had white society been worried about that they should have simply said, 'Hi, I'm a genocidal thief, live with it' and all would have been cool legally.
It's amusing that their descendants now have to deal with the fall out from their hypocritical BS.

Then get in a time machine and go back and punish those who screwed the Indians over. I'm all for the tribes deciding who is a member and who isn't. I am fine with them running their casinos and engaging in non-competitive business practices on designated tribal territory.

What I have a problem with is the amount of federal dollars the tribes still receive while declaring themselves sovereign nations. And I reinterate, if you can't even claim to be 1/16th Native American you are really not native American. That's why my family never sought to get their CDIB cards.

Again, it's all about the $$$$$ and the PC BS comes into play because it is not PC to criticize the current federal handouts to individuals who may be 1/1024 Native American. The only reason CDIB cards are handed out to these people is to inflate tribal membership numbers which equates to more federal funds. So when somebody posts a video of a ****** castigating and denigrating other citizens about voicing concerns over a legitimate issue based on a false, hypocritical premise then I will weigh in with my opinion about the issue.

Oh, and you do realize that many who appeared on the Dawes Roll were the Boomers and Sooners who came in during the land rush.....those same "genocidal thiefs" you so passionately decry in your post. I know because my great grandfather's family was one of those families that came in during that period or shortly after.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I have a great Tshirt. 4 warriors in their full regalia.

Under them: "Homeland Security. Fighting Illegal Immigration Since 1492"No doubt you wear it proudly.

[KantoSooner]

I do, Rush, I really do. I am highly amused by the red faced, wheezing jackholes who come up to me and make a big deal out of it. I amuse the few fullbloods who work the taco stand with me by saying thing to said wheezing jackholes like, "How! You seemum all upsetum! Buy you a coke-um?"

[KantoSooner]

Why, Fanin? Why should I get in a time machine when I have now? Now is a glorious time. It's a time in which tribal lawyers have figured out how to finally turn things around, a bit.
Selling firewater and running rigged games of chance to take money from Texans? What could possibly be more ironically hilarious? Placing businesses on indian land outside of state jurisdiction for taxation? THAT'S some funny shiite right there!

And, if I'm able to follow whatever rules the tribe institutes and become a member, why should I not get advantages such as declaring my business 'Minority Owned'?

The world isn't perfect, a lot of people got screwed and a lot are being screwed right now. I thought you were a big time conservative. Go take care of yourself, I'll take care of me. All God's chillun got to have shoes, in the words of the immortal Louisiana politician, Leander Perez.

[OU68]

Biggest mistake the white man made was not finishing what he started.

[olevetonahill]

Why, Fanin? Why should I get in a time machine when I have now? Now is a glorious time. It's a time in which tribal lawyers have figured out how to finally turn things around, a bit.
Selling firewater and running rigged games of chance to take money from Texans? What could possibly be more ironically hilarious? Placing businesses on indian land outside of state jurisdiction for taxation? THAT'S some funny shiite right there!

And, if I'm able to follow whatever rules the tribe institutes and become a member, why should I not get advantages such as declaring my business 'Minority Owned'?

The world isn't perfect, a lot of people got screwed and a lot are being screwed right now. I thought you were a big time conservative. Go take care of yourself, I'll take care of me. All God's chillun got to have shoes, in the words of the immortal Louisiana politician, Leander Perez.

How I go about Gettin me one of them there Tribe Numbers? I want some of that Cheese.

[FaninAma]

Why, Fanin? Why should I get in a time machine when I have now? Now is a glorious time. It's a time in which tribal lawyers have figured out how to finally turn things around, a bit.
Selling firewater and running rigged games of chance to take money from Texans? What could possibly be more ironically hilarious? Placing businesses on indian land outside of state jurisdiction for taxation? THAT'S some funny shiite right there!

And, if I'm able to follow whatever rules the tribe institutes and become a member, why should I not get advantages such as declaring my business 'Minority Owned'?

The world isn't perfect, a lot of people got screwed and a lot are being screwed right now. I thought you were a big time conservative. Go take care of yourself, I'll take care of me. All God's chillun got to have shoes, in the words of the immortal Louisiana politician, Leander Perez.

i am glad you are pleased but those are some of the main reasons I would never, ever apply for a CDIB card.

Sad ending for a great culture......once upon a time. Pandering to the whiteman selling beads, trinkets, alcohol, tobacco and gambling.

[KantoSooner]

Oh, yeah, jobs, money for health care and schools and roads and bridges, a civil justice system, scholarships to college. It's just awful what gaming and tribal tax control has done.
Just awful.

[KantoSooner]

Vet, what tribe do you have connex to? Contact their HQ and see what the rules are. Cherokees are straightforward, but a bit slow to process the applications. I can't speak for other tribes.

[olevetonahill]

Vet, what tribe do you have connex to? Contact their HQ and see what the rules are. Cherokees are straightforward, but a bit slow to process the applications. I can't speak for other tribes.

Hell I dont know, I just want some dayum cheese.

[KantoSooner]

I got some, come on over.

[olevetonahill]

I got some, come on over.

I'll Brang the "WINE"

I lost my connection here a couple years ago and aint found another yet.

[olevetonahill]

I got some, come on over.

Really tho there was some Talk way back when of having a Great grandmother er Father er some **** that was full blood Cherokee Have No clue if thats right Nor No clue how to find out and Not much desire. Hell I can buy Cheese from an Indian easier LOL

[cleller]

Really tho there was some Talk way back when of having a Great grandmother er Father er some **** that was full blood Cherokee Have No clue if thats right Nor No clue how to find out and Not much desire. Hell I can buy Cheese from an Indian easier LOL

I'm 1/16th Choctaw, and do NOT consider myself Indian at all. Not on any rolls, have no cards, nothing. Don't want any. If you're 1/4th or more, fine, call yourself Indian, do whatever you want.

I'm sick to death of these people that are 1/64th claiming to be Indian. Ridiculous.

[olevetonahill]

I'm 1/16th Choctaw, and do NOT consider myself Indian at all. Not on any rolls, have no cards, nothing. Don't want any. If you're 1/4th or more, fine, call yourself Indian, do whatever you want.

I'm sick to death of these people that are 1/64th claiming to be Indian. Ridiculous.

I'll say it again, I just want some dayum Cheese.LOL

[cleller]

I'll say it again, I just want some dayum Cheese.LOL

That stuff is good. My ma got some about 15 years ago when they were giving it to anyone over 65 or something.

Just what the elderly need. Something to clog their arteries and colon.

[olevetonahill]

That stuff is good. My ma got some about 15 years ago when they were giving it to anyone over 65 or something.

Just what the elderly need. Something to clog their arteries and colon.

Thats why they make Exlax.

[okie52]

I'm 1/16th Choctaw, and do NOT consider myself Indian at all. Not on any rolls, have no cards, nothing. Don't want any. If you're 1/4th or more, fine, call yourself Indian, do whatever you want.

I'm sick to death of these people that are 1/64th claiming to be Indian. Ridiculous.

Heh...I'm just 1/16 Chickasaw and I plan on taking advantage of the free healthcare. My kids get it too. They would even build me a storm shelter if I didn't already have one.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

By the way...just for clarification as there always seems to be some confusion among libs...it appears that was an anti illegal immigration rally...not an anti immigration rally.

The difference is often lost on many.

Good news Okie! My brother in law got word this week his petition for legal residency was approved!

[olevetonahill]

Good news Okie! My brother in law got word this week his petition for legal residency was approved!

So jaun how does that werk? Does he have to slip back across the border into MessEco then Come across all legal and ****? Or do he just stay here and let his cousins use the papers?

[FaninAma]

Good news Okie! My brother in law got word this week his petition for legal residency was approved!
Congrats. Legal immigration is a good thing.

[okie52]

Good news Okie! My brother in law got word this week his petition for legal residency was approved!

Great to hear juan...see, the system works!!!

[SanJoaquinSooner]

So jaun how does that werk? Does he have to slip back across the border into MessEco then Come across all legal and ****?



Well I hope not -- not if his attorney understands the law.

[olevetonahill]

Well I hope not -- not if his attorney understands the law.

So he just stays here and becomes legal?

[SanJoaquinSooner]

So he just stays here and becomes legal?

Well vet, the law is the law. He is not allowed to leave the U.S. until the green card is in hand, subject to a 3 or 10 year ban on returning to the U.S.