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okie52
6/18/2013, 01:48 PM
The Immigration Enforcement Game
Tuesday, 18 Jun 2013 10:24 AM

Congress is boring. It can't even make new false promises.

On border security, it keeps making the same assurances. The Gang of Eight immigration bill, which could well be the signature legislative accomplishment of President Barack Obama's second term, travels in the well-worn ruts of past immigration promises. The Gang of Eight is offering this basic deal: "We will pretend to enforce the law, if you pretend to believe us."

The Gang of Eight bill purports to create an exit-entry visa system that Congress has been mandating since 1996. Back then, only the most cynical of observers would have believed that 17 years later, Congress would seek to pass a new amnesty for roughly 11 million illegal aliens partly in exchange for the very same entry-exit system. But in the immigration debate, cynicism always pays.

In 2006, Congress passed a law calling for about 700 miles of double-layer fencing on the border. We've built about 36 miles, or a good, solid 5 percent. At this rate, we'll have all the double fencing in another 130 years. The rest of the mileage is various forms of inferior fencing, in keeping with a loophole Congress passed the very next year giving the Department of Homeland Security discretion in how it would go about building the fence.

Executive discretion is where border enforcement goes to die, and as it happens, the Gang of Eight enforcement provisions are entirely at the mercy of the executive. The secretary of homeland security merely submits a plan to do the things the executive branch has been mandated to do, but failed to do in the past. Who decides whether it is working? The secretary of homeland security.

This is so self-evidently ridiculous, even the Gang of Eight apparently realizes it needs to make some gesture toward toughening the bill. For his part, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio is doing the best Hamlet since John Gielgud. He is refusing to say whether he will vote "yes" on his own Gang of Eight bill after spending months drafting, defending, and helping shepherd it to the floor.

He has supposedly discovered that the enforcement provisions are inadequate, although he has done countless interviews insisting the bill contains the "toughest immigration-enforcement measures in the history of the United States."

Another basic problem in the architecture of the bill is that the amnesty comes before anything else, giving the Obama administration, ethnic interest groups, and the business lobby every incentive to resist any enforcement measures after they pass.

Rubio is loath to admit that the amnesty comes first, although in a recent interview on Univision, he indeed admitted it: "First comes the legalization. Then come the measures to secure the border. And then comes the process of permanent residence." In a subsequent interview, he said he was inartful, which in Washington is a synonym for "frank."

When he's speaking more artfully, he is careful to blur the difference between the initial amnesty and the process of getting a green card to give the misimpression that enforcement has to happen before anything else does.

Not that he'll use the word "amnesty." A hallmark of Republican supporters of the Gang of Eight bill is stating their earnest opposition to amnesty at the same time they support amnesty. They call the status quo a "de facto" amnesty, but refuse to make the basic concession to logic that codifying the "de facto" amnesty makes it a "de jure" amnesty.

They readily call the 1986 immigration reform "amnesty," even though the essential features of the Gang of Eight bill — legalization with a few symbolic hoops for the newly legal immigrants — are exactly the same.

The Gang of Eight bill is powered, in large part, by pretense and word games. If this bill passes, and then a decade or so from now we need another amnesty, the road map to passage will be easy: Congress can promise to follow up on the Gang of Eight's enforcement measures — yet again.

Rich Lowry is the editor of National Review. He has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, and a variety of other publications. Read more reports from Rich Lowry — Click Here Now..

okie52
6/18/2013, 02:24 PM
Illegals interrupt congress


Enforcement-Only Immigration Hearing In House Interrupted By Protesters
Published June 18, 2013
Fox News Latino

House Judiciary Committee member Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., sponsor of the Strengthen and Fortify Enforcement Act, left, talks with Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., on Capitol Hill. (AP)
More than a dozen protesters interrupted a hearing on a tough enforcement-focused immigration bill Tuesday in the U.S. House of Representatives with chants of “shame! shame!” – bringing the proceedings to a halt.
A key committee in the Republican-led House moved toward approving the controversial bill opposed by Democrats and immigrant advocates. Protesters wore signs that said “Remember November," a reference to the loss of GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney in part, some experts say, to the party's hard line on immigration.
The House Judiciary Committee was meeting to consider the Strengthen and Fortify Enforcement Act, by Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C. It would empower state and local officials to enforce federal immigration laws, make passport and visa fraud into aggravated felonies subject to deportation, funnel money into building more detention centers and crack down on immigrants suspected of posing dangers.
Those who back more lenient provisions dealing with undocumented immigrants assailed some of the Republicans in Congress for what they described as putting roadblocks to bipartisan steps to reforming the immigration system.
As soon as Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., opened the hearing, more than a dozen protesters who had been seated in the hearing room stood up and began clapping and chanting, "Shame, shame, shame! More of the same!" They were ushered out but their cries could still be heard in the hallway and Goodlatte stopped the proceedings until authorities escorted them out.
Goodlatte said that the bill under consideration – the first immigration bill to come to a vote in a House committee this year – "provides a robust interior enforcement strategy that will maintain the integrity of our immigration system for the long term."
But Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., an immigrant advocate, said that "this bill must be opposed, it would turn millions of undocumented immigrants into criminals overnight." She predicted mass protests were the bill to become law, along the lines of what happened in 2006 after the House passed a similarly tough enforcement bill.
The move by the House Judiciary Committee comes less than two weeks after the full House voted to overturn Obama's 2012 election-year order to stop deportations of many immigrants brought here illegally as youths.
Together, the two moves highlight the challenges ahead in getting a comprehensive immigration bill through Congress this year, as Obama wants. For many House conservatives, the priorities when it comes to immigration remain enforcing the laws and securing the border, not allowing the millions here illegally to gain legal status or citizenship.
Meanwhile in the Senate, a Republican lawmaker floated a compromise border security proposal he hopes can win over support for sweeping immigration legislation under consideration there.
And on a day of fast-paced developments on an issue that is a top priority for President Barack Obama, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, moved to quiet speculation that he might bring the Senate immigration legislation up for a vote despite opposition from many conservatives in his chamber.
"Any immigration reform bill that is going to go into law ought to have a majority of both parties' support if we're really serious about making that happen. And so I don't see any way of bringing an immigration bill to the floor that doesn't have a majority support of Republicans," Boehner said.
He added that border enforcement would be key for any immigration bill, "And I frankly think the Senate bill is weak on border security."

Rep. Luis Gutierrez, one of the most vocal proponents in Congress for providing a pathway to legalization for undocumented immigrants, pointed criticism for the GOP in a speech from the House floor.
“Most Republicans in this body – up until a few weeks ago – were singing from a new and more harmonious hymnal,” said a transcript of his speech. “Police and local governments want immigrants in their community to be able to call the police if they are the victim of crime or are witnesses to crime? Too bad. Republicans in Washington know better than your cops, prosecutors and mayors at home. They will cut your federal funding unless you commit to full-frontal deportation and local immigration enforcement.”

Advocacy groups warned that hard-line Republican moves on immigration would come back to haunt the GOP in elections.
“As long as Republicans seek to treat us as criminals and destroy our families, we will continue to mobilize, organize, register, and turn out voters, until the last anti-family extremist has been voted out of office," said Angelica Salas, Executive Director, Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles.

Border security also is at issue in the Democratic-led Senate, where senators have been jousting over how to strengthen the provisions in a far-reaching bill being considered on the floor this week to remake the nation's immigration laws. At the heart of the bill is a 13-year path to citizenship for people now here illegally, but it is contingent on certain border security goals being met.
Republican critics say those "triggers" are too weak and have been demanding amendments to strengthen them. The Senate planned to vote Tuesday on an amendment by Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., requiring 700 miles of double-layered border fencing before anyone here illegally could get a permanent resident green card.
A more far-reaching proposal by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, has been getting attention, but Democrats and some Republicans have dismissed it as a "poison pill" because it would require 90 percent of people attempting to cross the border to be stopped before anyone here illegally could get a permanent resident green card.
The underlying bill also has the 90 percent figure as a goal, but doesn't make the path to citizenship directly contingent on achieving it.
Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., told The Associated Press Monday night that he has been working on an alternative with Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., and others. Hoeven said his proposal also would require the 90 percent apprehension rate to be met before immigrants could get green cards. But he said his plan, unlike Cornyn's amendment, would make the 90 percent rate objective and achievable by specifying all the equipment and technology the border patrol says it needs to achieve the rate in each of the nine Southwest border sectors, and carefully tracking attempted crossings.
Hoeven said he hoped to unveil his amendment in the next day or two and said it could garner the support needed to get bipartisan support for the immigration bill.
"Our effort is to get good legislation that truly secures the border," Hoeven said. "That people feel it's fair and it's not amnesty ... so we can get really a bipartisan consensus."
However, Hoeven's amendment could encounter skepticism from immigrant groups and Democrats who want to be sure that the bill doesn't change in a way that makes the path to citizenship harder to achieve.


Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/06/18/enforcement-only-immigration-bill-hearing-in-house-interrupted-by-protesters/#ixzz2Wb4wMY3k

okie52
6/18/2013, 04:12 PM
Riots and protests like in 2006?

Full frontal deportation?

Criminals?

deportations anti family?

Dam pubs are a heartless group... doing these things to such honorable people....after all they have done for us. Who wouldn't want them in this country?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
6/18/2013, 04:17 PM
It's coming. millions of more democrats.

okie52
6/18/2013, 04:44 PM
Immigration Activists Target Author Of Arizona Law At His Home
Published June 18, 2013
Fox News Latino

AP
Kansas immigration activists and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach are facing off after a weekend demonstration Kobach called appalling.

Hundreds of protesters converged on Kobach’s front porch Saturday.
The Sunflower Community Action group says more than 700 people gathered at Trinity United Methodist Church to talk about what they call common sense immigration reform.
From the church, a couple hundred boarded buses to Secretary Kobach’s house, they say, to deliver a personal message to him.

“Kris Kobach, we know you can do it. We know you can stand with us,” a member of the Sunflower Community Action group says into a bullhorn while facing the crowd of protesters.

Kobach is the architect of many of the nation's state-level immigration measures, including Arizona's SB1070. Kobach also served as GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney's unofficial immigration advisor, a liaison that many observers believed ended up being detrimental to the former Massachusetts governor.

Kobach, a champion for those who oppose illegal immigration, long has been a proponent of the concept of "self-deportation," whereby life becomes so difficult for undocumented immigrants that they leave the United States on their own.

Video posted online by the protesters shows a rally on the front steps of Kobach’s home.

“We hope that our fathers will not be gone tomorrow,” the man continues in his speech to the crowd.

In a statement the group says they gathered outside Kobach’s home to remind him that Kansans believe in keeping families together — adding Kobach has spent years promoting hateful policies that force families, friends and neighbors to live in fear.

“There ain’t no power like the power of the people and the power of the people don’t stop …” the crowd chants as they leave Kobach’s home and march through the neighborhood.

In the video shot by the Sunflower action group, protesters can be seen leaving shoes at Kobach’s door, they say to symbolize all the families left fatherless due to deportation.

“We’ve left these shoes here so maybe Mr. Kobach can try to fill them because these are the shoes of the fathers he deported, that have been deported by his laws that he’s lobbied for and passed.”
In an interview with FOX News on Monday, Kobach said he was not home Saturday during the protest, but told the FOX News reporter he was appalled, saying, “They have a right to protest at my office or at public places. But they don’t have a right to enter someone’s private property and engage in this kind of intimidation.”
Kobach went on to say, “It’s important we recognize there’s a reason we have the second amendment — if we had been in the home and not been armed, I would have felt very afraid because it took the police 15 minutes to show up.”

The KCK Police Department issued a statement saying it is aware of the protest and is reviewing matters to determine if any laws were violated.

Kansas City, Kan., Mayor Mark Holland is the pastor of the church where the protestors gathered Saturday before the demonstration.
Neither Holland nor Kobach returned our calls for comment.


Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/06/18/immigration-activists-protest-outside-kansas-home-kris-kobach-author-arizona/#ixzz2Wbf57oyd

Dam shame you can't shoot people for trespassing.