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olevetonahill
6/7/2013, 04:30 PM
Obama defends surveillance effort as 'trade-off' for security

Barack Obama on Friday staunchly defended the sweeping U.S. government surveillance of Americans' phone and Internet activity, calling it a "modest encroachment" on privacy that was necessary to defend the United States from attack.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-defensive-over-surveillance-152124637.html

Tulsa_Fireman
6/7/2013, 05:19 PM
Pretty sure he did.

God damn, that's bold.

olevetonahill
6/7/2013, 05:42 PM
Pretty sure he did.

God damn, that's bold.

He has these.http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4722055597196641&pid=15.1&w=126&h=126&p=0

rock on sooner
6/7/2013, 09:13 PM
Prolly misguided, but SOMEBODY needs to grow some...jus sayin'..

BigTip
6/8/2013, 08:22 AM
“In the end more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free.”
Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)


But, God forbid, anyone learn anything from history. Everyone knows history NEVER repeats itself. Oh wait, that's not how that saying goes, is it?

FaninAma
6/8/2013, 01:02 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/amnesty-intl-disappearances-mexico-crisis-221818184.html

This administration is totally out of control. I think all of these civil liberty trangressions are just trial balloons to see what this society will tolerate.

40%(or more) of the citizens have sold their civil liberties in return for government handouts. We will see how many have sold out for the purpose of supporting "their guy".

sappstuf
6/8/2013, 01:13 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/amnesty-intl-disappearances-mexico-crisis-221818184.html

This administration is totally out of control. I think all of these civil liberty trangressions are just trial balloons to see what this society will tolerate.

40%(or more) of the citizens have sold their civil liberties in return for government handouts. We will see how many have sold out for the purpose of supporting "their guy".

To be fair, I'm sure there are principled Liberals who are outraged at what Obama is doing. They just don't want to risk getting placed on the "enemies list" by the IRS....

BigTip
6/8/2013, 02:51 PM
This administration is totally out of control. I think all of these civil liberty trangressions are just trial balloons to see what this society will tolerate.


That's how it always has been. Another thing about history is that it gives such fine blueprints for aspiring despots.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
6/8/2013, 03:38 PM
To be fair, I'm sure there are principled Liberals who are outraged at what Obama is doing. They just don't want to risk getting placed on the "enemies list" by the IRS.... Socialism demands authoritarianism, so most of them prolly don't mind him running roughshod over the laws of the country.

SicEmBaylor
6/8/2013, 03:56 PM
Ben Franklin warned us, what, 230+ years ago? Nobody listened.

More specifically, Ron Paul warned us 12 years ago and nobody listened.

Tulsa_Fireman
6/8/2013, 07:26 PM
Sic'Em warned me five minutes ago and I couldn't get over the whole gas line debacle to listen.

SicEmBaylor
6/8/2013, 07:29 PM
Sic'Em warned me five minutes ago and I couldn't get over the whole gas line debacle to listen.
Last night, I was outside smoking my cigar when I started smelling natural gas. This was around 9pm, so after I finished my cigar I called the gas company's emergency line and they sent a guy to the house from Tulsa. Turns out, they didn't tighten something on the new meter very wella and it was indeed leaking.

olevetonahill
6/8/2013, 07:41 PM
Last night, I was outside smoking my cigar when I started smelling natural gas. This was around 9pm, so after I finished my cigar I called the gas company's emergency line and they sent a guy to the house from Tulsa. Turns out, they didn't tighten something on the new meter very wella and it was indeed leaking.

You should lit yer lighter around to see if ya coulda found it.

yermom
6/8/2013, 09:00 PM
Socialism demands authoritarianism, so most of them prolly don't mind him running roughshod over the laws of the country.

Who knew? W was a socialist too.

You need to lay off the bull****. Your guy didn't give a **** about privacy either. This crap is bipartisan

TAFBSooner
6/8/2013, 09:23 PM
Socialism demands authoritarianism, so most of them prolly don't mind him running roughshod over the laws of the country.

Liberalism <> socialism.

If liberals are putting up with this, it's because they're confused and thinking politics is a sport and they're staying loyal to their "team." Or they're depressed that we get increasing authoritarianism no matter who gets elected.