David Cornwell

[Sabanball]

Looks like there is some question about his remaining HS eligibility. What's the general feeling in Norman about how the Oklahoma authorities that govern HS athletics will rule on this?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/9326710/eligibility-hearing-looms-top-qb-prospect-david-cornwell

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Historically they have been pretty hard line on eligibility issues. I was just wondering if Jones (or Choctaw) had ever produced a D1 player.

[picasso]

I believe Jones has.

[Soonerjeepman]

Read a bunch of comments on the espn article...seems espn is trying to make the Okla HSAA seem like a$$es. Obviously most are not in the know of the exact circumstances, but I really question him being out of school the whole yr when in the article is says the mom had the illness for a few months. Someone commented about knowing the dad and family and they are always looking for an angle for the son....again, who knows.

I know that I DID hold my son back, Aug birthday...back in K. Being a teacher I know boys develop emotionally, physically slower and I wanted him to be more mature for his Sr year. Who knows at that age if they'll be a athletic stud or not, I do know I graduated at 17, turned 18 in July and gained 30 lbs and 3 inches after HS. Would that have made a difference? who knows...but being one of the older vs younger would seem to help. Our main reason was the mental and social aspect..not athletic.

I do think being 6'5 232 and 19 yrs old is too old for HS. Take your talent to juco or a smaller level school, play for a yr and then get signed by the big boys (he is already recruited).

[NorthernIowaSooner]

I do think being 6'5 232 and 19 yrs old is too old for HS. Take your talent to juco or a smaller level school, play for a yr and then get signed by the big boys (he is already recruited).

I think this would make him very tough to scout this year. That extra year of physical maturity is an enormous advantage at their age. He has had an extra year to develop and will be playing against guys 1-4 yrs his junior. If he were a LB that could create some serious disadvantages and possible concerns from other teams. As a QB it might not be as big of a deal but I would guess it will inflate his numbers a bit.

[Eielson]

It's not uncommon at all to see 19 year olds playing HS football.

[8timechamps]

Traditionally, OHSAA has been very hard-line on issues like this. Just last year, a top recruit in the state (Ward) had to sit out his senior year because of transferring issues. He ended up at OU, but it just demonstrates how they stick to their guns on these types of things.

Of course it would benefit the kid to play his senior year, but it's not going to change his options if he doesn't. ANy school that has made an offer will recruit him just as hard until he commits. The only thing it could potentially hurt is the schools that were recruiting him and wanted to see more before making an offer. Given the programs that have already made offers, I think he's going to be just fine.

I pegged this kid to be a Bama committ just as soon as OU got their first target. I still think that's where he goes.

[Sabanball]

[QUOTE=8timechamps;3612475]Traditionally, OHSAA has been very hard-line on issues like this. Just last year, a top recruit in the state (Ward) had to sit out his senior year because of transferring issues. He ended up at OU, but it just demonstrates how they stick to their guns on these types of things.

Of course it would benefit the kid to play his senior year, but it's not going to change his options if he doesn't. ANy school that has made an offer will recruit him just as hard until he commits. The only thing it could potentially hurt is the schools that were recruiting him and wanted to see more before making an offer. Given the programs that have already made offers, I think he's going to be just fine.

I pegged this kid to be a Bama committ just as soon as OU got their first target. I still think that's where he goes.[/QUOTE





Of course, this issue involving his HS eligibility does not affect his college career, but my only question is if his mother was so sick that he needed to home school for one yr, how did he have time to go on a mission trip? That to me could be what ultimately causes him to lose eligibility for his senior yr.


He was in Tuscaloosa on sunday to throw in front of Saban and our OC along with the Harris kid from Georgia. I have it on good authority though that no committable offers were made. We've already got about 6 QB's on scholly(not including invited walk-on Luke Del Rio) so the staff can afford to be very selective. All that being said, I predict we will make David an offer by the end of the month once Saban and OC Nussmeier finish their evaluations and I think in the end I agree I think he rolls with the tide and we are done at QB for the 2014 class.

According to the Oklahoman, there was supposedly a hearing today on this issue in front of the OSSAA board of directors to hear David's hardship appeal. Anyone here know if a decision was issued?

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/06/top_qb_prospect_david_cornwell.html

[8timechamps]

[QUOTE=8timechamps;3612475]Traditionally, OHSAA has been very hard-line on issues like this. Just last year, a top recruit in the state (Ward) had to sit out his senior year because of transferring issues. He ended up at OU, but it just demonstrates how they stick to their guns on these types of things.

Of course it would benefit the kid to play his senior year, but it's not going to change his options if he doesn't. ANy school that has made an offer will recruit him just as hard until he commits. The only thing it could potentially hurt is the schools that were recruiting him and wanted to see more before making an offer. Given the programs that have already made offers, I think he's going to be just fine.

I pegged this kid to be a Bama committ just as soon as OU got their first target. I still think that's where he goes.[/QUOTE





Of course, this issue involving his HS eligibility does not affect his college career, but my only question is if his mother was so sick that he needed to home school for one yr, how did he have time to go on a mission trip? That to me could be what ultimately causes him to lose eligibility for his senior yr.


He was in Tuscaloosa on sunday to throw in front of Saban and our OC along with the Harris kid from Georgia. I have it on good authority though that no committable offers were made. We've already got about 6 QB's on scholly(not including invited walk-on Luke Del Rio) so the staff can afford to be very selective. All that being said, I predict we will make David an offer by the end of the month once Saban and OC Nussmeier finish their evaluations and I think in the end I agree I think he rolls with the tide and we are done at QB for the 2014 class.

According to the Oklahoman, there was supposedly a hearing today on this issue in front of the OSSAA board of directors to hear David's hardship appeal. Anyone here know if a decision was issued?

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/06/top_qb_prospect_david_cornwell.html

Nothing decided apparently. Probably be a week or so before a ruling is made.

As for his offer, everything I've seen shows that he already has an offer from Bama, is that not the case?

[Collier11]

He does but they might use this to pull back from him if he is ineligible is what I have heard

[8timechamps]

He does but they might use this to pull back from him if he is ineligible is what I have heard

Gotcha. I have to wonder if OU didn't see this coming. There was a lot of rumble about OU not offering Cornwell, and going with Hansen, so it's quite possible that OU knew this was out there. Or, they just liked Hansen better (which is what I'm thinking).

[Sabanball]

He does not currently have a committable offer. Alabama offers to quarterbacks are generally not considered "committable" until Nick Saban sees them throw in person, and Blackshear (Ga.) Pierce County quarterback Tyler Harris, who also worked out in Tuscaloosa this week, told Rivals.com's Andrew Bone that Saban has indicated he plans to wait until mid-month before making any decisions at the position.

"He said they are evaluating all the quarterbacks they are interested in," Harris, a three-star prospect, told Bone. "In the next two weeks, on June 15, I will know where I stand. He said I was up on the list, so we will see what happens."

However, David Cornwell is generally regarded as the top qb prospect on our board and most think an offer is forthcoming. He fits the Saban mold for a qb more than any other prospect we are looking at--mainly a drop-back passer who has mobility inside the pocket.

While I'd like to see the kid be able to play his senior yr, I think some of the concern about his HS eligibility is a little overblown. Like I said, it really has no bearing on his entry into college as long as his grades are in order and no character issues, and given his background I don't think that either of those will be a problem at all.

Hansen is a fine talent in his own right, and from what ive read your staff has a long relationship with him. It doesn't hurt too that he is originally FROM the state, unlike David Cornwell, who is not from Oklahoma. Also, isn't Hansen a legacy recruit?

[8timechamps]

He does not currently have a committable offer. Alabama offers to quarterbacks are generally not considered "committable" until Nick Saban sees them throw in person, and Blackshear (Ga.) Pierce County quarterback Tyler Harris, who also worked out in Tuscaloosa this week, told Rivals.com's Andrew Bone that Saban has indicated he plans to wait until mid-month before making any decisions at the position.

"He said they are evaluating all the quarterbacks they are interested in," Harris, a three-star prospect, told Bone. "In the next two weeks, on June 15, I will know where I stand. He said I was up on the list, so we will see what happens."

However, David Cornwell is generally regarded as the top qb prospect on our board and most think an offer is forthcoming. He fits the Saban mold for a qb more than any other prospect we are looking at--mainly a drop-back passer who has mobility inside the pocket.

While I'd like to see the kid be able to play his senior yr, I think some of the concern about his HS eligibility is a little overblown. Like I said, it really has no bearing on his entry into college as long as his grades are in order and no character issues, and given his background I don't think that either of those will be a problem at all.

Hansen is a fine talent in his own right, and from what ive read your staff has a long relationship with him. It doesn't hurt too that he is originally FROM the state, unlike David Cornwell, who is not from Oklahoma. Also, isn't Hansen a legacy recruit?

I'm sure most big time programs have similar offering methods, I just was confused and thought he may not have any kind of offer. Thanks for the clarification.

I think Hansen fits the offense Heupel/Stoops want a little better than Cornwell. Cornwell is a pocket passer where Hansen is a dual threat (although I see him more of a pocket passer that can run really well...if that makes sense). Anyway, I don't think he's a football legacy, although I believe his dad attended OU. So, I'm sure recruiting Hansen was much easier than Cornwell, who really didn't have an allegiance to stay in OK.

[picasso]

It's not uncommon at all to see 19 year olds playing HS football.

Nope. We had one on our '82 state title team who was an All Big 8 safety at oSu. Switzer recruited him to play FB.

[Mjcpr]

Nope. We had one on our '82 state title team who was an All Big 8 safety at oSu. Switzer recruited him to play FB.

And that was just 31 short years ago! :D

[8timechamps]

And that was just 31 short years ago! :D


Seems like it was just 30 years ago...time flies!

[Mjcpr]

He's eligible.

OKLAHOMA CITY - Norman North quarterback David Cornwell will be able to play this season.

Cornwell was informed Friday that his application for an extra semester of eligibility was approved after Oklahoma Secondary School Activities Association reviewed addition information the family supplied earlier this week.

Cornwell (6-foot-5, 235 pounds) had to apply for the extra semester after missing the fall 2011 semester when his mother was ill.

Cornwell is one of the most highly sought after quarterback prospects nationally in the 2014 class.

Click here to read the complete article at NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/david-cornwell-will-be-eligible-to-play-at-norman-north-this-season/article/3842896)

[Widescreen]

Hooray for some other school, I guess.

[Sabanball]

The kid had a legitimate hardship case. The board made the right decision. That being said, it has zero effect on his college enrollment or career.

http://wwwit.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/06/five-star_qb_david_cornwell_gr.html#incart_river

[Collier11]

They made the right decision here from what I have heard

[Scott D]

*yawn*

[Sabanball]

Committed to Bama today, per Rivals and 24/7.

[8timechamps]

Committed to Bama today, per Rivals and 24/7.

Just read that he committed (not 24/7, so must be getting around).

[Widescreen]

*yawn*

Yep.

[Since71ASooner4Life]

Just read that he committed (not 24/7, so must be getting around).

So now all we have to do is see how good he is, and we'll know whether good coach Nick reciprocates the commitment or he becomes an over signing casualty :>)

[8timechamps]

So now all we have to do is see how good he is, and we'll know whether good coach Nick reciprocates the commitment or he becomes an over signing casualty :>)

I will be interested in how he does, only because OU passed on him to get Hansen.

[Sabanball]

8time, honestly why do you think Bob passed on Cornwell? His numbers are all superior to Hansens(Hansen IS classified as a pro style qb) and Cornwell is even rated higher in the state, according to all the major services. Given your recent history with Sam Bradford and a kid like this with clear NFL measurables, I'm just curious why your staff let a kid like this literally in your own backyard get away.

[Harry Beanbag]

All I've heard was it was all about "fit". I've heard Cornwell being compared to Bomar attitude-wise, have no clue if that is accurate or complete bull****. If you look at it in that respect, it was an easy decision for Bob.

[8timechamps]

8time, honestly why do you think Bob passed on Cornwell? His numbers are all superior to Hansens(Hansen IS classified as a pro style qb) and Cornwell is even rated higher in the state, according to all the major services. Given your recent history with Sam Bradford and a kid like this with clear NFL measurables, I'm just curious why your staff let a kid like this literally in your own backyard get away.

Good question.

This is only my opinion, and could be completely wrong, but I think it boiled down to which QB OU felt they had a better shot to land early. I've watched both of them play (on film, not in person), and there isn't a whole lot of difference between the two. Cornwell may be a little more agile, but their throwing abilities are almost exactly the same. Anyway, I think OU wanted a commit early, so they didn't end up in the same position as last year (waiting on Max Browne to commit, then having to use recruiting time away from other areas to lock down a late QB).

Even though Cornwell was (very) local, he's not a native to the state and his family doesn't have the same ties to OU (as Hansen). So, I think Stoops/Huepel pulled the trigger on Hansen, to get a "face of the class" to help recruit WR Dalis Todd.

It's not often two of the top QBs in the country are in Oklahoma, and I think you couldn't go wrong with either. In the end, both schools ended up with very good QBs.

[Sabanball]

Good question.

This is only my opinion, and could be completely wrong, but I think it boiled down to which QB OU felt they had a better shot to land early. I've watched both of them play (on film, not in person), and there isn't a whole lot of difference between the two. Cornwell may be a little more agile, but their throwing abilities are almost exactly the same. Anyway, I think OU wanted a commit early, so they didn't end up in the same position as last year (waiting on Max Browne to commit, then having to use recruiting time away from other areas to lock down a late QB).

Even though Cornwell was (very) local, he's not a native to the state and his family doesn't have the same ties to OU (as Hansen). So, I think Stoops/Huepel pulled the trigger on Hansen, to get a "face of the class" to help recruit WR Dalis Todd.

It's not often two of the top QBs in the country are in Oklahoma, and I think you couldn't go wrong with either. In the end, both schools ended up with very good QBs.

I would have to agree. Seems Bob always is able to develop whomever he gets at this position. No reason to think he won't do that with Hansen. Maybe he and Cornwell meet in the Sugar Bowl sometime in the next 5 yrs ...:)

[8timechamps]

I would have to agree. Seems Bob always is able to develop whomever he gets at this position. No reason to think he won't do that with Hansen. Maybe he and Cornwell meet in the Sugar Bowl sometime in the next 5 yrs ...:)

Hopefully, if they meet in the next 5 years, OU will be able to field a competitive team. OU needs another run at a title, and Alabama needs to play someone that will give them a game (well, maybe not the last part :) ).

[picasso]

Or maybe Cornwell's a bust.

[Sabanball]

Or maybe Cornwell's a bust.

You mean like Roy Finch so far? Yep...it's possible.

[picasso]

You mean like Roy Finch so far? Yep...it's possible.

Ohh good one. So clever and hurtful.

Sad.

[Sabanball]

Ohh good one. So clever and hurtful.

Sad.

...I would be too if I were you and the best player in my state went to the SEC. Seriously.