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OU68
4/10/2013, 02:55 PM
On April 1st, a legal gun owner in upstate New York reportedly received an official notice from the state ordering him to surrender any and all weapons to his local police department. The note said that the person’s permit to own a gun in New York was being suspended as well. The gun owner contacted attorney Jim Tresmond (a specialist in gun laws in New York) and the two visited the local police precinct.

Mr. Tresmond reportedly went into the precinct and informed the officers that his client, waiting in the parking lot, was coming in to voluntarily surrender his weapons as requested. The local police were aware of the letter because they had already been contacted by the State Police. Apparently, if people do not respond to the initial mailing, local law enforcement is authorized to visit the gun owner at their home and demand the surrender of the firearms. In this case, the gun owner followed the request as written. The guns and permits were handed over and a receipt given to the client.

After the guns were turned over, a request for a local hearing was filed and the gun owner is expecting to have his Second Amendment rights restored. But there is more to this story.

In our conversation with lawyer Jim Tresmond, we learned that this client, who has never had a problem with the law — no criminal record and or violent incidents on record — did have a temporary, short term health issue that required medication. But how were his client’s private medical information accessed by the government? This appears to be a violation of HIPAA and Health Information Privacy policies at HHS.gov. If it is declared a violation, this becomes a civil rights issue.

Some claim that a broad interpretation of this statement from HIPAA might allow the government to have instant access to the medical records and gun ownership records of anyone who is prescribed psychotropic drugs.

A major goal of the Privacy Rule is to assure that individuals’ health information is properly protected while allowing the flow of health information needed to provide and promote high quality health care and to protect the public’s health and well being.



Read more: http://www.wbzt.com/articles/national-news-104668/a-form-of-gun-confiscation-has-11171457/#ixzz2Q5lzKDVV

jkjsooner
4/10/2013, 04:18 PM
Our resident libertarians think that the 14th amendment should be repealed and that the bill of rights should not apply to the states. I expect them to admit that if they had their way this would be a non-issue.

rock on sooner
4/10/2013, 06:43 PM
Welp, from this resident lib, nothing to see/hear/worry about/abscess over
just move along!

Bourbon St Sooner
4/11/2013, 09:05 AM
Our resident libertarians think that the 14th amendment should be repealed and that the bill of rights should not apply to the states. I expect them to admit that if they had their way this would be a non-issue.

Sicem isn't a libertarian. Mining the border is not an act of limited gov't.

BermudaSooner
4/11/2013, 10:58 AM
This brings up a lot of issues those libs should be concerned about. Getting personal medical history is a big deal. I'm sure some ACLU lawyers are ready to jump on that.

StoopTroup
4/11/2013, 01:58 PM
That situation is pretty disturbing but not surprising. How many of you ever read the HIPAA Statement your docs have you sign? It's gotten to the point that its like being given Miranda every time you see the Doc.

OU_Sooners75
4/11/2013, 05:57 PM
Many organizations that have health information about you do not have to follow the HIPPA laws.

Examples of organizations that do not have to follow the Privacy and Security Rules include:


life insurers,
employers,
workers compensation carriers,
many schools and school districts,
many state agencies like child protective service agencies,
many law enforcement agencies,
many municipal offices.

Soonerjeepman
4/11/2013, 11:13 PM
75...not arguing with ya but all we ever hear about college athletes that are hurt is they cannot say anything due to HIPPA laws..yes? you mention schools...

OU_Sooners75
4/12/2013, 12:28 AM
75...not arguing with ya but all we ever hear about college athletes that are hurt is they cannot say anything due to HIPPA laws..yes? you mention schools...

Schools can share with each other. They cannot release to the public.

SicEmBaylor
4/12/2013, 07:38 AM
Sicem isn't a libertarian. Mining the border is not an act of limited gov't.

Correct. I'm actually a palecon. I would rather err on the side of libertarianism, and I refuse to support the GOP's neoconservative/evangelical agenda.

olevetonahill
4/12/2013, 07:42 AM
heh. I identify with the Conservatives, But like i said 10 years er so ago. I took a Political affiliation test once
it said i was Libertarian Border line Anarchist.

So stay off MY hill, Leave MY guns alone and we will get along.:peaceful: