wow..this is why californai is screwed...

[Soonerjeepman]

When local California official Susan Muranishi retires from her job in a couple years, she’s going to be walking away with a fat paycheck -- $423,664 a year – for the rest of her life.

Muranishi, an Alameda County administrator, makes $301,000 in annual base pay. But in addition to that, the San Francisco Chronicle reports she'll also receive:

$24,000 in “equity pay” to make sure she makes at least 10 percent more than anyone else in the county, even in retirement.
An annual performance bonus of $24,000, even in retirement.
Another $9,000 a year for serving on the county’s three-member Surplus Property Authority, even in retirement.
$54,000 a year in “longevity” pay for having stayed with the county for more than 30 years, even in retirement.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/26/alameda-county-administrator-to-get-423644-year-after-retirement/#ixzz2OexAO5uc

[Boomer.....]

Unbelievable!

[BermudaSooner]

What is a county administrator? That is crazy.

[olevetonahill]

Thot this thread was gonna be about the Gun Repo men.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-s-gun-repo-men-have-a-nerve-racking-job-155325406.html

[SanJoaquinSooner]

When local California official Susan Muranishi retires from her job in a couple years, she’s going to be walking away with a fat paycheck -- $423,664 a year – for the rest of her life.

Muranishi, an Alameda County administrator, makes $301,000 in annual base pay. But in addition to that, the San Francisco Chronicle reports she'll also receive:

$24,000 in “equity pay” to make sure she makes at least 10 percent more than anyone else in the county, even in retirement.
An annual performance bonus of $24,000, even in retirement.
Another $9,000 a year for serving on the county’s three-member Surplus Property Authority, even in retirement.
$54,000 a year in “longevity” pay for having stayed with the county for more than 30 years, even in retirement.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/26/alameda-county-administrator-to-get-423644-year-after-retirement/#ixzz2OexAO5uc


This is correct. When California was in good times with tons of revenue rolling in, public employees got some sweetheart deals in salaries and benefits - including pension plans that are unsustainable.

[badger]

This is correct. When California was in good times with tons of revenue rolling in, public employees got some sweetheart deals in salaries and benefits - including pension plans that are unsustainable.

The thing that might save spendy states like California (and our spendy federal counterparts) is the fact that we have our own currency. If the Greeks weren't on the Euro, then nobody would have cared that their pensions and perks were through the roof, because their currency would depreciate compared to others and the gravy train could continue.

So, we owe China billions. So, we owe California retirees hundreds of thousands. Inflation to rescue! What was once a luxurious high class salary is now a middle class living salary! What was once an insurmountable debt to our foreign investors is suddenly less than our annual tax revenue intake! Bwahahahahahahahaha

[champions77]

Wow, so this is where Obama got his ideas on reckless spending?

It is a little unfair to be too critical of California and not be critical of Obama. Both will have the desired effect, a total implosion of the economy. How could it end any other way?

I really believe that Obama feels that if our economy did collapse, that he could and would confiscate funds in banks/retirement plans much like what was originally planned in Cyprus, and justify it due to a "National emergency", of course the same national emergency that he help cause. My opinion of him doing this is reinforced by his cavalier attitude toward the debt crisis. Hillary Clinton about ten years ago fantasized what great things the Feds could do if they could just take ten percent of monies in individual investment accounts, and all for the "greater good" of course.

If anyone does not believe that these leftists ideologues would not do this then you are sadly misjudging them.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Hey, its linked from Fox News, it must be false...It must be wrong...It must be a lie against The Socialist...

[badger]

Wow, so this is where Obama got his ideas on reckless spending?

It is a little unfair to be too critical of California and not be critical of Obama. Both will have the desired effect, a total implosion of the economy. How could it end any other way?

I really believe that Obama feels that if our economy did collapse, that he could and would confiscate funds in banks/retirement plans much like what was originally planned in Cyprus, and justify it due to a "National emergency", of course the same national emergency that he help cause. My opinion of him doing this is reinforced by his cavalier attitude toward the debt crisis. Hillary Clinton about ten years ago fantasized what great things the Feds could do if they could just take ten percent of monies in individual investment accounts, and all for the "greater good" of course.

If anyone does not believe that these leftists ideologues would not do this then you are sadly misjudging them.

Wait a sec... you really think that this would happen in the next four years? I don't think an economy like ours can collapse to the point of invading bank accounts that fast.

I ask because that is how long President Obama has left in office. If you feel it is a Democrat goal rather than an Obama goal, that is more understandable, but will our banks really be open to fed invasion in the next 4 years? I don't think so.

[champions77]

Wait a sec... you really think that this would happen in the next four years? I don't think an economy like ours can collapse to the point of invading bank accounts that fast.

I ask because that is how long President Obama has left in office. If you feel it is a Democrat goal rather than an Obama goal, that is more understandable, but will our banks really be open to fed invasion in the next 4 years? I don't think so.

Obama has shown this as a policy (unconcerned about debt) moreso than anyone that has occupied the White House. W was bad, BHO is twice as bad. I am not sure when this will happen, but do you deny that is where we are headed? So yes, I agree, it's a Democratic thing, not just a BHO thing, but he's their leader right now, and so he gets the blame for keeping us on the track we have been on now for several years.

Wow it feels nice to put some blame right on Obama, since he has been totally adverse to accepting blame for anything during his time in office. But he does say "I" alot when describing something he portrays as "good".

[badger]

Obama has shown this as a policy (unconcerned about debt) moreso than anyone that has occupied the White House.

You're new here, so here's my basic political rundown:
-In the 18-35 demographic
-Female
-Lifelong Republican voter
-Lived in Wisconsin, now in Oklahoma

And while I would normally agree that Obama has not shown a large concern for debt during the presidency, there are a few things that work against that argument that both happened this year:

-Fiscal cliff
-Sequester

If money was no object and debt was not a big deal, then why raise taxes on the wealthy?
Blah blah blah yadda yadda first part of sentence again, then why allow the sequester to happen?

...then why allow payroll taxes to increase back to previous levels?

Even if it feels good to blame Obama, he is in office till 2016 (technically 2017). To truly hold him and the Democratic Party accountable, make the Midterm Midtacular hurt (especially in the Senate).

[TheHumanAlphabet]

I am sorry Badg, the Sequester has absolutely no bearing on the debt or Obammy wanting to do anything other than rack up big debts and borrow more money. The sequester is being used by the dims as a smoke screen and a "crisis" to make further inroads into tax Americans more and relieving them of their hard earned cash. Obammy has no intention, ever of proposing a budget, let alone propose anything that might even be close to revenue neutral. He wants big spending. period.

[bluedogok]

This is correct. When California was in good times with tons of revenue rolling in, public employees got some sweetheart deals in salaries and benefits - including pension plans that are unsustainable.
The unions stacked the California legislature and boards with their own people.

City Journal - The Pension Fund That Ate California (http://www.city-journal.org/2013/23_1_calpers.html)

[badger]

I am sorry Badg, the Sequester has absolutely no bearing on the debt or Obammy wanting to do anything other than rack up big debts and borrow more money. The sequester is being used by the dims as a smoke screen and a "crisis" to make further inroads into tax Americans more and relieving them of their hard earned cash. Obammy has no intention, ever of proposing a budget, let alone propose anything that might even be close to revenue neutral. He wants big spending. period.

Sorry I didn't respond sooner, I promise I'm not ignoring you :)

The sequester and fiscal cliff, to me, showed that perhaps the Obama administration is willing to give in on certain things to Republicans, especially knowing that nothing passes the government (until perhaps 2014 midterms) without Republican approval.

While the fiscal cliff appeared to be more a hardline stance on raising taxes for the wealthy that the Obama administration wouldn't budge on, the sequester seemed to be them relinquishing ground, at least a little bit.

I know it's a small victory, even if it's hardly a victory at all, but it's something.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Sorry I didn't respond sooner, I promise I'm not ignoring you :)

The sequester and fiscal cliff, to me, showed that perhaps the Obama administration is willing to give in on certain things to Republicans, especially knowing that nothing passes the government (until perhaps 2014 midterms) without Republican approval.

While the fiscal cliff appeared to be more a hardline stance on raising taxes for the wealthy that the Obama administration wouldn't budge on, the sequester seemed to be them relinquishing ground, at least a little bit.

I know it's a small victory, even if it's hardly a victory at all, but it's something.

I can understand this view. But he lost the bet about them agreeing to a budget thinking he would get much of his tax increases along the way. Since he lost that one, he has now gone scortched earth to make the cuts as visible and painful as possible. What spite! I was a FEDGOV employee back in the day and remember talk of furloughs, etc when there was no budget resolution. At that time, the management at DoT (where I worked, the USCG was under DoT) was looking to see what we all could do without, without hindering our public mission or visibility. 180 degree difference under the Chicago Thug...He is evil, mean and vile. I didn't get what I want, so I am going to take the ball and kill the game for you all... waaaaaaa!!!

[badger]

make the cuts as visible and painful as possible

Have the cuts been visible or painful yet? I know a government employee who said that their budget no longer allows for travel for conferences/speaking engagements/etc. but other than that, I really haven't heard of any visible/painful cuts.

In fact, that's the way it's seemed to be reported so far --- sequester! ...so what?

[pphilfran]

Have the cuts been visible or painful yet? I know a government employee who said that their budget no longer allows for travel for conferences/speaking engagements/etc. but other than that, I really haven't heard of any visible/painful cuts.

In fact, that's the way it's seemed to be reported so far --- sequester! ...so what?

If nothing is done you need to ask that same question in June...
Also, watch the GDP growth number starting in Aug/Sept

[diverdog]

Have the cuts been visible or painful yet? I know a government employee who said that their budget no longer allows for travel for conferences/speaking engagements/etc. but other than that, I really haven't heard of any visible/painful cuts.

In fact, that's the way it's seemed to be reported so far --- sequester! ...so what?

The civilians at DAFB had their pay cut 20%. They work 4 days per week.

[diverdog]

I can understand this view. But he lost the bet about them agreeing to a budget thinking he would get much of his tax increases along the way. Since he lost that one, he has now gone scortched earth to make the cuts as visible and painful as possible. What spite! I was a FEDGOV employee back in the day and remember talk of furloughs, etc when there was no budget resolution. At that time, the management at DoT (where I worked, the USCG was under DoT) was looking to see what we all could do without, without hindering our public mission or visibility. 180 degree difference under the Chicago Thug...He is evil, mean and vile. I didn't get what I want, so I am going to take the ball and kill the game for you all... waaaaaaa!!!

jeezus is there a righty on this board who never worked for the government?

[Soonerjeepman]

I work for you....I teach your kids...;-) I suppose TECHNICALLY that is the gov. since we are paid by the taxes but I def don't feel like a gov worker~

oh and badge..ya gotta be $hittin me..

Have the cuts been visible or painful yet? I know a government employee who said that their budget no longer allows for travel for conferences/speaking engagements/etc. but other than that, I really haven't heard of any visible/painful cuts.

In fact, that's the way it's seemed to be reported so far --- sequester! ...so what?

saying no white house tours...showing the poor 5th graders from somewhere that couldn't get a tour...is just one of obama's immature, snide, actions. Why don't we cut some of that $700 MILLION aide to Palestine and get the tours re-opened that were run by VOLUNTEERS.

obama is playing this up for all it's worth when he can.

[Soonerfan88]

Our budgets have definitely been cut, some training cancelled and we will be furloughed. But even though they announced all unnecessary travel was cancelled, the big shots (active duty, BTW, and not affected by furloughs) are still flying all over the place getting per diem when the same thing could easily be accomplished by teleconferences.

And diver, DoD has not yet furloughed anyone and they even delayed mailing out the official notices by two weeks. Unnamed Pentagon sources said yesterday the 22 days were also going to be reduced to 14. Good news for us but I guarantee I could have found other places to cut without affecting my paycheck.

I do believe Obama is quietly directing his cabinet heads to make sequestration hurt so he can turn it against the Republicans during the 2014 elections.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

jeezus is there a righty on this board who never worked for the government?

4 years with the USCG, research engineer for them. Then I saw the light of private industry...

Badg... what is it several airports in OK will have to shut down as the air traffic control/ tower controller is being furloughed, 13 airports in TX affected. TSA is suppose to furlough airport screeners, but just spent $50M on new uniforms. Border guards are supposed to be furloughed and famously, The Socialist cancelled the WH tours... So they are going out of their way to make the sequester visible and painful. But how a reduction ins spending to last year's level is so bad, I have no idea.

[badger]

Badg... what is it several airports in OK will have to shut down

Hopefully those infamous funding-getting empty airports (http://www.allgov.com/news/where-is-the-money-going/congress-keeps-funding-little-used-airports-130227?news=847199) :)

[Soonerjeepman]

exactly...there are 2 SMALL...like small town airports that DON'T NEED controllers, but instead of cutting those we cut KCI...talk about gov STUPIDITY....and don't even get me started on the uniforms...