NCAA and miami

[ouwasp]

Have any penalties ever been announced?

[cleller]

According to Shalalalala, its all a witch hunt.

If anyone should know a thing or two about witches, its Shalala.

[Moore]

:barbershop_quartet_lets get crazy fellas

[8timechamps]

They were supposedly set to make an announcement sometimes in February, then there was some 'development' and accusations about wrongdoings withing the NCAA investigation committee. So, things were put on hold. At this point, it's kind of become (another) joke.

[MyT Oklahoma]

Uh huh, and once upon a time USC and Ohio State thought their investigations were a joke too. Just be patient because The U is way past due to get punished.

[8timechamps]

Uh huh, and once upon a time USC and Ohio State thought their investigations were a joke too. Just be patient because The U is way past due to get punished.

My point is that the NCAA process is a joke. Miami will get their due sanctions, but this should have been handled long ago. If I'm not mistaken, the NCAA investigation began prior to the Penn State scandal. Now, I think the Penn State issue took president, so I have no problem with the swift punishment that PSU received, but I think they've taken far too long to close out the Miami issue (the only reason Miami didn't go to a bowl game last season was because of their self-sanctioning, not the NCAA)...thus, the joke.

[Sabanball]

Hate to say it, but I think Miami might skate. With the NCAA admitting errors in all of this and one investigator even fired, the canes can claim the whole thing was tainted. Hope I'm wrong, but something tells me either they get a simple slap on the wrist or perhaps even nothing at all...

[ouwasp]

yeah, Sabanball, I'm beginning to expect something along the lines of "time served"; the U's self-imposed 2 yr bowl ban will serve as their punishment. Crap. I was hoping to see them relegated to juco status.

But the NCAA is nothing if not stubborn. So they may still drop the ever-so-ponderous hammer of justice sometime this decade.

[soonerhubs]

The entire process typically punishes those weren't there during the violations and lets ****** bags like Pete Carroll off the hook.

[cleller]

The NCAA is so inefficient now, they might as well just let the universities and public opinion police the whole thing.

[Ruf/Nek7]

I am still waiting on the major penalties for texass....screw the u

[MyT Oklahoma]

I am still waiting on the major penalties for texass....screw the u

Screw 'em both.

[Mazeppa]

This just in:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21960181/report-more-ncaa-transgressions-arise-in-miami-case

[MyT Oklahoma]

This just in:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21960181/report-more-ncaa-transgressions-arise-in-miami-case

Figures. NCAA is dumber than mud and always has been.

[KantoSooner]

Miami has shown the way to defeat a sanctions investigation. Fuzz things up, rope a dope and taint the evidentiary chain. Hat's off to them, they're gamers, never gave up!

[Mazeppa]

more news from the miami saga

AP Source: Miami asks for NCAA case to end
By TIM REYNOLDS (AP Sports Writer) | The Associated Press


CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) -- Citing massive impropriety by the NCAA and how it handled the investigation of Miami's athletic department, the Hurricanes want the case against them thrown out altogether and formally filed a motion Friday - as did three former assistant coaches - to have the case brought to an end, said a person familiar with the situation.
Meanwhile, the NCAA still wants to know if Miami ignored evidence that the former booster at the center of this scandal was providing impermissible benefits to Hurricanes' athletes, coaches or recruits, according to the person, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because specifics of that filing were not released publicly.
A maneuver like the one the Hurricanes are now trying isn't how these major-infractions cases typically proceed. However, it essentially is a continuation of what Miami President Donna Shalala demanded in mid-February, that the long saga finally have some closure.
In the notice of allegations that was filed last month, the NCAA alleged that some Miami officials essentially looked the other way when presented with evidence of booster Nevin Shapiro's wrongdoing - the heart of the lack of ''institutional control'' charge.
Even with Friday's new and separate filings, one on behalf of Miami and the other on behalf of the three former Hurricanes coaches named in the allegations - former football assistant Aubrey Hill, and former basketball assistants Jorge Fernandez and Jake Morton - it's unclear if the NCAA's Committee on Infractions has the ability to dismiss the case before a hearing.
That hearing is scheduled to begin June 14.
Whether that actually happens remains up for some debate. Neither the university nor the NCAA commented publicly Friday on the filings.
The NCAA, according to the person who spoke with AP, asked Miami as part of its response to the allegations to detail whether or not it hired a private investigator to look into Shapiro's business dealings between 2002 and 2005, records of a meeting between at least one athletics department official and Shapiro in 2003, and the findings of a study the school conducted with regard to Shapiro in 2006.
Miami also has been asked to provide copies of certain email exchanges that were about Shapiro, including one from 2008 that was sent to at least one member of the Atlantic Coast Conference's staff.
The NCAA has asked Miami to answer those questions, and others, in its response to the notice of allegations. That response would, in theory, be sent prior to the planned hearing on the Miami charges.
''When put on notice of potential issues with Shapiro's involvement ... the institution failed to limit Shapiro's access or implement any additional monitoring related to Shapiro,'' the NCAA alleged in the notice of allegations, details of which were shared with AP. ''This lack of oversight created an environment in which Shapiro was able to have impermissible contact.''
Meanwhile, Miami is continuing to stand firm in its belief that its self-imposed sanctions are enough punishment for any wrongdoing.
Email exchanges, obtained by The AP and first reported by The Miami Herald, showed this week that an investigator the NCAA used in the Miami case - Stephanie Hannah, a 20-year NCAA veteran who replaced Ameen Najjar, who was fired - asked Shapiro's lawyer, Maria Elena Perez, to extract information damaging to the university from his bodyguard, Mario Sanchez.
Those details were not included in the review that the NCAA ordered earlier this year about its own accountability in the Miami investigation, which has dragged on since the spring of 2010. And those details would seem to support Miami's assertion that the NCAA overstepped its bounds during the probe.
It's clear that the rift between Miami and the NCAA is growing and becoming more complex each day, especially after the details of some questionable NCAA investigating tactics have come to light in recent weeks. One member of the NCAA's committee on infractions, however, said anything written and said before that hearing in June simply would not matter when it's time to decide what penalties, if any, should be assessed against Miami.
''You may find this surprising, but I have a practice and it doesn't matter if it's Miami, Southern Cal, Georgia Tech, you name the school,'' committee member Christopher Griffin said in a recent interview with AP. ''If I am watching television and a report comes on about allegations of violations of NCAA rules, I immediately change the channel. If I'm reading a newspaper and a headline tips me off that that article is going to address violations of NCAA bylaws, I don't read the article.''
Shalala said she would fight any additional penalties, and now the Hurricanes are asking why a hearing is even needed.
The NCAA has acknowledged some missteps related to how it conducted the investigation, many of which revolve around the relationship that those who were working on the Miami case forged with Perez. She used subpoena power - a tool the NCAA does not have - to depose witnesses that the NCAA wanted to talk to, even getting a list of questions from former investigators to use in those sessions.
The NCAA reached out to Perez in October 2011, with emails from Najjar, the former investigator, clearly showing that the NCAA knew deposing witnesses like former Miami equipment manager Sean Allen, former Shapiro business partner Michael Huyghue and Sanchez was ''outside the NCAA's jurisdiction.''
Perez is now under investigation by the Florida Bar.
Shapiro has said he provided dozens of Miami athletes, coaches and recruits with benefits from 2002 through 2010. The AP reported last month that the NCAA, in the notice of allegations, said Shapiro was responsible for providing about $170,000 in impermissible benefits ranging to diamond-studded dog tags to used washing machines to fast-food meals.
Shapiro is serving a 20-year prison term for masterminding a $930 million Ponzi scheme.

[Mazeppa]

This was from the ap on Monday

Louisville asst. Hurtt put on leave
*Mar 24, 2013 2:21 AM ET

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP)
Louisville defensive line coach Clint Hurtt has been placed on administrative leave while preparing to answer allegations of violations the NCAA says he committed while he was a Miami Hurricanes assistant.
Cardinals coach Charlie Strong said Friday Hurtt has been given time away from the program so he ''can concentrate on his case.''
Hurtt, 34, faces allegations of receiving and providing impermissible benefits while at Miami. The NCAA last month sent Hurtt and Louisville a letter stating that he received a $2,500 loan and provided perks to Hurricanes recruits.
The NCAA also said Hurtt provided false and misleading information during the investigation.
Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich said last month Hurtt would remain on the Cardinals' staff while his case is pending but stopped short of saying he'd be with the program next season.
Hurtt has until May 20 to respond to the allegations.
Strong is handling Hurtt's defensive line duties during spring drills, which began on Wednesday. The coach also said Hurtt is not recruiting for Louisville while he prepares his response to the NCAA.
''We've given him that time and I think it's good that he's doing that,'' Strong said. ''With the many distractions, he just can't do the job that we're asking him to do right now.''
Hurtt, who played at Miami, was a Hurricanes assistant for eight seasons between 2001-09. He came to Louisville in 2010, Strong's first season as the Cardinals' coach.
Miami is charged with a lack of institutional control, one of the worst allegations the NCAA can levy against a member school.
The NCAA has also revealed internal problems with its own investigative staff's handling of the Hurricanes' probe.
NCAA President Mark Emmert said in January that the organization discovered ''a very severe issue of improper conduct'' - specifically that the attorney for Shapiro was used ''to improperly obtain information ... through a bankruptcy proceeding that did not involve the NCAA.''
At least one of the people deposed by attorney Maria Elena Perez as part of Shapiro's bankruptcy case appeared under subpoena, and his testimony would not have been otherwise available to NCAA investigators. College sports' governing body does not have subpoena power.
The investigators who were involved are no longer with the NCAA.