WTF? I mean Seriously WTF?

[olevetonahill]

Lord help us from our stupidity

2016 Hillary-Michelle 'Dream Ticket' floated


http://washingtonexaminer.com/early-2016-buzz-hillary-michelle-ticket/article/2524072

[Soonerjeepman]

wow..no $hit...dear Lord help us...

[SoonerInFortSmith]

Worst part is they would probably win.

[rock on sooner]

C'mon, you guys on the right...somebody just wanted to get your
blood pressure up. I don't think Hillary would want to share the
ticket with another woman. However, it's not too far fetched to
see Michelle running for office in Illinois. Knowing full well how
most of you feel about Hillary, IMO there's never been a more
qualified woman to crack the glass ceiling.

[olevetonahill]

wow..no $hit...dear Lord help us...


Worst part is they would probably win.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJdsWp7WRwimW17TbQ4nBJbYo7U_app XvICgkD9BC_zEZxZjni

[rock on sooner]

Worst part is they would probably win.

No, I don't think they would. Michelle is star power but how much
political know how would she bring to the ticket? It'd start out as
a huge novelty but there's enough misogyny to keep an all female
ticket from winning...sadly.

[Midtowner]

As far as political know how, imagine how a debate between the First Lady and Sarah Palin would go.

[SoonerInFortSmith]

No, I don't think they would. Michelle is star power but how much
political know how would she bring to the ticket? It'd start out as
a huge novelty but there's enough misogyny to keep an all female
ticket from winning...sadly.

You're not accounting for one thing. What robotic old stodger are the pubs going to trot out there to be out of touch and lose?

[SicEmBaylor]

I'd rather burn this country to the ground and start over than see those two in the White House.

[olevetonahill]

As far as political know how, imagine how a debate between the First Lady and Sarah Palin would go.

Dude, What is wrong with you?

Where does Palin even fit in this?there are times, You make her look intelligent, by your stupidity that you post

[C&CDean]

As far as political know how, imagine how a debate between the First Lady and Sarah Palin would go.

It'd look like a red-assed howler monkey arguing with a has-been beauty. What's your point?

[C&CDean]

No, I don't think they would. Michelle is star power but how much
political know how would she bring to the ticket? It'd start out as
a huge novelty but there's enough misogyny to keep an all female
ticket from winning...sadly.

Don't think so? Obama had/has nothing but "star power" and he's won the dang thing twice. Just shows how stupid you people really are.

[Midtowner]

Dude, What is wrong with you?

Where does Palin even fit in this?there are times, You make her look intelligent, by your stupidity that you post

Can you post without appearing to be such an ignorant rube? Ask a question of substance. Point out a fact. Point out an inconsistency in something. I could take any reply you've made to any of my posts. I swear they appear to be cut/pastes because all you do is call names, I guess in an effort to mask your own inadequacies?

Just STFU if you don't have anything of substance to say.

[Midtowner]

Don't think so? Obama had/has nothing but "star power" and he's won the dang thing twice. Just shows how stupid you people really are.

He won the thing both times because the 'pubs couldn't put up a credible candidate. Give the voters more than a white guy in a suit and maybe they'll pay attention. McCain was desperately off kilter from the get go, hence the selection of Palin to stir up the lunatic fringe. Romney/etch-a-sketch... well, the 47% kind of killed him, and again, he pivoted so many times on issues that no one knew what he was about. The second Obama campaign seemed to involve the President sort of coasting to an easy victory.

[olevetonahill]

As far as political know how, imagine how a debate between the First Lady and Sarah Palin would go.


Can you post without appearing to be such an ignorant rube? Ask a question of substance. Point out a fact. Point out an inconsistency in something. I could take any reply you've made to any of my posts. I swear they appear to be cut/pastes because all you do is call names, I guess in an effort to mask your own inadequacies?

Just STFU if you don't have anything of substance to say.

What I bolded from YOU ,Is that what you consider SUBSTANCE? Really? You who would Kill your Kid to save a DOG? Tell ya what, I'll STFU when YOU go **** yourself. Hows that?

[rock on sooner]

He won the thing both times because the 'pubs couldn't put up a credible candidate. Give the voters more than a white guy in a suit and maybe they'll pay attention. McCain was desperately off kilter from the get go, hence the selection of Palin to stir up the lunatic fringe. Romney/etch-a-sketch... well, the 47% kind of killed him, and again, he pivoted so many times on issues that no one knew what he was about. The second Obama campaign seemed to involve the President sort of coasting to an easy victory.

The second campaign involved colossal Republican stupidity...everything
from their gazillion debates and subsequent candidate selection to monumental
underestimation of the Dems ground game, ignoring/insulting major voting
blocks and the aforementioned "I never met an issue that I wasn't on both sides
of."

That's all water under the proverbial bridge...now there is a full court press on
to remake the GOP, so we'll see how that works out.

[C&CDean]

He won the thing both times because the 'pubs couldn't put up a credible candidate. Give the voters more than a white guy in a suit and maybe they'll pay attention. McCain was desperately off kilter from the get go, hence the selection of Palin to stir up the lunatic fringe. Romney/etch-a-sketch... well, the 47% kind of killed him, and again, he pivoted so many times on issues that no one knew what he was about. The second Obama campaign seemed to involve the President sort of coasting to an easy victory.

Both candidates the pub party put up were/are several heads and shoulders above your boy. Their problem? They're white. Period.

You ignorant sluts and your ignorant minions (you know, the welfare babies, illegals, cheaters, riff raff, people of color/colour etc.) are to blame. Hell, the pubs could have run a poodle and it'd be better equipped for the POTUS gig than your boy. Stupid people who voted for Obama are to blame for this mess.

[Soonerjeepman]

I'd rather burn this country to the ground and start over than see those two in the White House.

lol...crazy I actually agree with you~

[Midtowner]

What I bolded from YOU ,Is that what you consider SUBSTANCE? Really? You who would Kill your Kid to save a DOG? Tell ya what, I'll STFU when YOU go **** yourself. Hows that?

Yes. I was comparing the quality of the First Lady as a potential VP candidate to one the 'pubs had offered in the past. Apparently, that went over your head. I'll write it in crayon next time so you'll understand.

[pphilfran]

As far as political know how, imagine how a debate between the First Lady and Sarah Palin would go.

lol

[SicEmBaylor]

Hillary doesn't bother me nearly as much as that socialist fat *** amazonian cow Michele.

[Soonerjeepman]

Both candidates the pub party put up were/are several heads and shoulders above your boy. Their problem? They're white. Period.

You ignorant sluts and your ignorant minions (you know, the welfare babies, illegals, cheaters, riff raff, people of color/colour etc.) are to blame. Hell, the pubs could have run a poodle and it'd be better equipped for the POTUS gig than your boy. Stupid people who voted for Obama are to blame for this mess.


problem is...the middle class avg joe is only having 1-3 kids, the DA's are having 3-7...therefor we'll be outnumbered and people love free stuff...

[pphilfran]

I would have more confidence in Hillary than those in the last few elections...

[okie52]

I would have more confidence in Hillary than those in the last few elections...


"what does it matter"?

[Midtowner]

I would have more confidence in Hillary than those in the last few elections...

Same here. She did such an excellent job as Secretary of State and we needed someone like her to repair the damage the 'pubs did, which was substantial.

[Soonerjeepman]

ya got to b $hittin me?...

[Midtowner]

ya got to b $hittin me?...

We just had this issue with rube. You're going to need to state some specifics about why you think I'm $hittin you.

[Soonerjeepman]

Here's one opinion...honestly after reading the article/blog...whatever it about sums up my thoughts. WHAT has she really done? you tell me

The “working hard” narrative followed Clinton when she became Secretary of State. She had no experience as a diplomat, but her boss wanted her nowhere near domestic policy. She traveled to over 100 countries, but there were no notable achievements. George Mitchell brought peace to Northern Ireland. There is not a single hot spot anywhere in the world that Clinton has successfully cooled down. While nobody before her solved those problems either, that is just a way of saying she is no worse. That makes her average, not exceptional. Many hot spots from Iran to Syria to North Africa to North Korea have gotten much worse during her tenure. This is not all her fault, but neither is she entirely blameless, and “it’s not my fault” is hardly an inspiring battle cry.

Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/tygrrrr-express/2013/jan/30/real-hillary-clinton-record/#ixzz2NY1wypFU
Follow us: @wtcommunities on Twitter

[Soonerjeepman]

Same here. She did such an excellent job as Secretary of State and we needed someone like her to repair the damage the 'pubs did, which was substantial.

this ^

[Midtowner]

FWIW:


1. People-to-People Diplomacy

Clinton understands the importance of strengthening ties with friends and allies while simultaneously engaging adversaries. Through intensive personal interaction, she has deftly built new relationships and managed old ones in a way that advance U.S. interests. In her own words, she has endeavored to ensure that the U.S. has “…a seat at every table that has the potential for being a partnership to solve problems.” For example, she expertly led efforts to rescue Chen Guangcheng, the dissident who took refuge in the U.S. Embassy in Beijing in May 2012, without crippling U.S.-China relations. Clinton has been the most active secretary of state in history, as a result. She has traveled more frequently and visited more countries than any of her predecessors; to date, her travels have spanned nearly 1 million miles and 112 countries.

2. The Importance of Economics

Clinton articulated a new vision of Economic Statecraft that made domestic economic growth – e.g. helping U.S. companies win business overseas – a key pillar of U.S. foreign policy. She made foreign policy relevant to the broader economic conversation, taking place in the U.S. in a show of political savvy few previous secretaries could match. And Clinton appointed the State Department’s first ever-chief economist to help implement Clinton’s vision. She also supported the more traditional economic aspects of foreign policy – such as sanctions – including those that crippled the Iranian government – and free trade – including Free Trade Agreements with allies Panama, Colombia, and South Korea.

3. Restoring American Credibility

Building on people-to-people diplomacy, Clinton has promoted U.S. values in a firm but respectful way that restored international faith in the U.S. that eroded during the Bush administration. Her outreach to Burma balances unwavering support for human rights with the promise of support to a previously suspicious regime and has opened that country to the world for the first time in decades. Aung San Suu Kyi is now free and her party actively participating in the governance reform effort in Burma. Clinton also rejuvenated U.S. engagement in the Middle East by brokering a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel earlier this year. Her shuttle diplomacy and coordination with Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi will likely give the U.S. greater leverage to pursue a robust peace process in 2013.

4. Diplomacy is National Security

The now iconic picture of senior officials gathered in the Situation Room during the Osama Bin Laden raid will forever memorialize one of the principal national security achievements of the first Obama administration. Clinton supported the raid and was a key player in adjusting U.S.-Pakistan relations afterwards. She was also a strong proponent of NATO airstrikes in Libya that eventually led to Muammar Gaddafi’s ouster. Her active diplomacy was critical to securing United Nations Security Council authorization of the Libya mission and maintaining strong European and regional support for it. Without such robust diplomatic effort, the use of military force – in Pakistan and Libya – would not have been nearly as effective. Clinton’s role in these two military campaigns highlights the central role foreign policy plays in U.S. national security in the 21st century.

5. Texts From Hillary

In 2012, Clinton became an internet sensation because of a series of memes depicting her having fictitious, comical text exchanges with other celebrities while wearing her trademark sunglasses. Texts from Hillary became so popular that Clinton herself submitted her own caption to the website and invited its creators to meet with her at the State Department. Her star power and ability to capture the imagination of individuals around the world is one noteworthy aspect of her success.

Senator Kerry will likely succeed Hillary Clinton in early 2013. Her tenure as secretary of state is filled with accomplishments that taken together demonstrate the resurgence of U.S. diplomacy and restoration of American credibility. Her specific successes – such as Burma’s opening to the world or crippling effect of Iran sanctions – are important, but so too are her focus on people-to-people diplomacy and economics. Senator Kerry would do well to build upon Clinton’s impressive record once he moves over to Foggy Bottom.

[CrimsonCream]

Same here. She did such an excellent job as Secretary of State and we needed someone like her to repair the damage the 'pubs did, which was substantial.

./ Egypt Muslim Brotherhood
./ Israel Relations at an all-time low
./ Libya Dead Ambassador
./ Russian Ban on adoption of Russian babies
./ Syria Chaos
./ Iran Nuclear Bomb
./ N. Korea Saying that they kill us
./ Pakistan Al Queda
./ Afghanistan Corrupt government

The better question is...is there anything she hasn't f-cked up?

[Soonerjeepman]

led efforts to rescue Chen Guangcheng, the dissident who took refuge in the U.S. Embassy in Beijing in May 2012,

but hasn't done anything about the Christian preacher in Iran..ONE, ONE person BFD

She has traveled more frequently and visited more countries than any of her predecessors; to date, her travels have spanned nearly 1 million miles and 112 countries.

Big whoop...

Clinton articulated a new vision of Economic Statecraft that made domestic economic growth – e.g. helping U.S. companies win business overseas – a key pillar of U.S. foreign policy.

that staggering 2% growth?

sorry mid...your stuff is just like mine..eye of the beholder...

[Midtowner]

./ Egypt Muslim Brotherhood
./ Israel Relations at an all-time low
./ Libya Dead Ambassador
./ Russian Ban on adoption of Russian babies
./ Syria Chaos
./ Iran Nuclear Bomb
./ N. Korea Saying that they kill us
./ Pakistan Al Queda
./ Afghanistan Corrupt government

The better question is...is there anything she hasn't f-cked up?

You sure you want to go that route? Do we blame Powell for 9/11?

-- I mean, we can probably blame him for helping fraudulently lead our nation into a war with Iraq...

[okie52]

Well Hillary is certainly battle tested:


Hillary Clinton's Bosnia sniper story exposed


"I remember landing under sniper fire," she said in Washington on Monday. "There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as "like a scene from Saving Private Ryan".

After initially dismissing the controversy over her comments as a "minor blip", she told a Pittsburgh radio station: "You know I have written about this and described it in many different settings and I did misspeak the other day. This has been a very long campaign. Occasionally, I am a human being like everybody else."
She insisted it was the "first time in 12 years" she had spoken inaccurately about the trip.

But her Bosnia anecdote has been a regular feature of her stump speeches.

On the trip, the then First Lady and her daughter Chelsea, then 16, emerged smiling from a C-17 transport plane to be met by Emina Bicakcic, eight, who told them: "There is peace now because Mr Clinton signed it. All this peace. I love it."

The Clintons were accompanied on the visit by the comedian Sinbad and the singer Sheryl Crow, who gave a morale-boosting concert for the troops.

On Feb 29 she stated that the greeting ceremony "had to be moved inside because of sniper fire" while on Dec 29 she said that she had "landed in one of those corkscrew landings and ran out because they said there might be sniper fire".

Mrs Clinton told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review that she had made the mistake about sniper fire because she had been "sleep-deprived". Her schedule showed she had no public engagements the day before her Washington speech and she spent the night in her Embassy Row home.

The footage of the Tuzla visit juxtaposed with her recent comments played repeatedly on American television networks and was viewed hundreds of thousands of time on the video-sharing website YouTube.

Mrs Clinton had cited the Bosnia trip, along with having been "instrumental" in bringing peace to Northern Ireland, as a central foreign policy qualification and a reason she would be "ready on day one" to be American commander-in-chief.

Advisers to Mr Obama seized on the issue, which feeds into a existing perception of Mrs Clinton as lacks candour. A Gallup poll last week found that just 44 per cent of Americans considered her "honest and trustworthy", compared to 63 per cent for Mr Obama and 67 per cent for Mr McCain, the Republican nominee.

The Clinton campaign initially tried to shut down debate about the Bosnia remarks, refusing to answer a reporter's question on a conference call saying that they would supply a transcript of the communications director's remarks from Monday.

But Clinton advisers later changed tack, issuing a press release entitle "Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama's Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements" listing occasions on which Mr Obama had apparently misspoken.

The last of the Clinton campaign's 10 examples was one from last autumn when a weary Mr Obama told a crowd that 10,000 instead of 10 people had been killed by a tornado in Kansas.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1582795/Hillary-Clintons-Bosnia-sniper-story-exposed.html

[C&CDean]

You can add "uglier than the *** end of a pregnant aardvark" and "giant punanny who should have divorced her POS husband" to her resume as well. When people are talking about Hillary like she's the best thing out there you gotta know we're pretty much ****ed. In. The. A.

[Midtowner]

Both candidates the pub party put up were/are several heads and shoulders above your boy. Their problem? They're white. Period.

And whose fault is it that the Democrats have huge majorities from non-whites? Whose fault is it that the xenophobic Republican party continues to alienate hispanic voters who are on their way to being the majority in the U.S.? The Republican Party is going to have to soften. The party of white power can't afford to continue down that path for long outside of places like Oklahoma.


You ignorant sluts and your ignorant minions (you know, the welfare babies, illegals, cheaters, riff raff, people of color/colour etc.) are to blame. Hell, the pubs could have run a poodle and it'd be better equipped for the POTUS gig than your boy. Stupid people who voted for Obama are to blame for this mess.

And until the Republicans can deal with the fact that those folks get to vote too, that's going to be a huge thorn in their side. The only way to fix that issue is through spending on education and on programs to break the cycle of generational poverty. If they want to structure the federal government as a system to help billionaires accumulate assets and protect them, they'll find themselves in the minority. Simple as that.

[Midtowner]

You can add "uglier than the *** end of a pregnant aardvark" and "giant punanny who should have divorced her POS husband" to her resume as well. When people are talking about Hillary like she's the best thing out there you gotta know we're pretty much ****ed. In. The. A.

Boy, that sort of thing's gonna win over women voters. To be qualified for office, you'd better be hawt?

[olevetonahill]

Yes. I was comparing the quality of the First Lady as a potential VP candidate to one the 'pubs had offered in the past. Apparently, that went over your head. I'll write it in crayon next time so you'll understand.

Cept Palin aint even been mentioned cept by ****ing idiots like you in a LONG time.

Now Go **** yer Kid killin self ok?

[C&CDean]

Boy, that sort of thing's gonna win over women voters. To be qualified for office, you'd better be hawt?

Well...yeah? Why do you think all the stupid bitches voted for Clinton and Obama? You think our society is deeper than "who has the biggest hooters and nicest ***?" You give us far too much credit. The only reason McCain/Palin had anything close to a shot was because of Palin's looks.

The skinny chick with the big hands (can't think of her name) is absolutely right when she said something like "if women weren't allowed to vote there'd never be another democrat president." Also, drop all the xenophobic/homophobic/nigophobic male republicans horse crap. It weakens an already shakey argument/position.

[olevetonahill]

Well...yeah? Why do you think all the stupid bitches voted for Clinton and Obama? You think our society is deeper than "who has the biggest hooters and nicest ***?" You give us far too much credit. The only reason McCain/Palin had anything close to a shot was because of Palin's looks.

The skinny chick with the big hands (can't think of her name) is absolutely right when she said something like "if women weren't allowed to vote there'd never be another democrat president." Also, drop all the xenophobic/homophobic/nigophobic male republicans horse crap. It weakens an already shakey argument/position.

Bro He's still debating with Slick willy about the definition of "IS"

[Soonerjeepman]

Also, drop all the xenophobic/homophobic/nigophobic male republicans horse crap. It weakens an already shakey argument/position.

so now we are the party of THIS ^ instead of "old grumpy white men"...ugh. I can't keep it straight~ lol
C/C I'm on your side ;-)

[Midtowner]

The skinny chick with the big hands (can't think of her name) is absolutely right when she said something like "if women weren't allowed to vote there'd never be another democrat president." Also, drop all the xenophobic/homophobic/nigophobic male republicans horse crap. It weakens an already shakey argument/position.

The white male isn't going to be the most important voting block in a very short period of time. If the Republican Party doesn't do something, outside of the Deep South, (except Tejas will be solid Blue).

[Soonerjeepman]

ya know, what so funny (and sad) is someday these few libs in their nice comfy lifestyles that feel so inclined to help the poor minorities who want handOUTs not handUPs might be thrown out of their nice comfy lifestyles because of their philosophical views now. If not them then their children if they have any.

I'm really sorry libs....I've taught in the inner city for 23 yrs...I've preached and taught nothing but pull yourself up, USE the opportunities out there, take responsibility for YOUR own actions, take a hold of YOUR dreams and life but ya know what? NOT A DAMN THING HAS CHANGED! My kids can't get $hit money wise for college but these kids can get a boatload but don't DO what it takes to do it.

Had my kichen manager tellin me about sect 8 housing..her UN-WED, 2 kid, unemployeed 21 yr old daughter couldn't come up with $900 to get a 2 bedroom apt in the nice part of town for $85, YES $EIGHTY-FIVE dollars a month EVERYTHING INCLUDED. frickin a handOUT but still doesn't change.

I've seen it first hand for 23 yrs...MOST of the poor want nothing to do with real work or making themselves better.

[Soonerjeepman]

Mid, I know, you do LEGAL work for these down and out teens...you do anything else?

you can lead a horse to water but ya can't make them drink...

they have a black president, all kinds of programs, but ya know what..THEY don't do anything to make themselves better, WHEN, just WHEN will they take responsibility for THEIR actions?

[Midtowner]

I agree with you 100% on Section 8 housing. It's more of a subsidy for slumlord property owners than anything else. I've represented kids in deprived cases who have been neglected and abused by their parents. It's just amazing... how do you have time to neglect a child when you don't have to work, have taxpayer paid rent, etc.? I agree there are some slugs out there. Services need to be targeted at the children, perhaps placing them into residential facilities which might try to educate them and provide the opportunities, while allowing the parents to have weekend visitation. It'd cost billions upon billions, but that's the only sort of intervention I can see working. Mandatory birth control for welfare recipients should be a given as well.

SSI is a total joke as well. I was sitting on a felony arraignment docket the other day and saw a gentleman explain to the judge that he was about to get fully disabled by a doctor who had diagnosed him as having one leg longer than the other. He wasn't disabled enough to not be charged with attempting to run away from a police officer.

[Soonerjeepman]

The white male isn't going to be the most important voting block in a very short period of time. If the Republican Party doesn't do something, outside of the Deep South, (except Tejas will be solid Blue).

and when the country goes belly up we'll all be crap...but that is what it's all about. If I can't have it neither can they.

I'm assuming as a lawyer, you make pretty good salary? How about you drop it to $55K (that's what I live on - GROSS not net) and spend the rest on scholarships, schools, etc. I could set you up real nice here in KCK. We need belts, underwear, socks, paper, ink for our printers, playground equipment, field trip funds...hmmm, I'll think of some more.

[olevetonahill]

The white male isn't going to be the most important voting block in a very short period of time. If the Republican Party doesn't do something, outside of the Deep South, (except Tejas will be solid Blue).

matlock, a serious question ok, I would like a serious answer
This so called IMPORTANT voting block that will soon be so NON important. Whos going to replace them?
The White Male Is just about the ONLY tax payin hard working person out there.
The Illegal Mexicans Work their Butts off, Yet they pay very little if ANY taxes. so THEY dont count.
What Demographic is going to support everyone?

[Soonerjeepman]

I agree with you 100% on Section 8 housing. It's more of a subsidy for slumlord property owners than anything else. I've represented kids in deprived cases who have been neglected and abused by their parents. It's just amazing... how do you have time to neglect a child when you don't have to work, have taxpayer paid rent, etc.? I agree there are some slugs out there. Services need to be targeted at the children, perhaps placing them into residential facilities which might try to educate them and provide the opportunities, while allowing the parents to have weekend visitation. It'd cost billions upon billions, but that's the only sort of intervention I can see working. Mandatory birth control for welfare recipients should be a given as well.

SSI is a total joke as well. I was sitting on a felony arraignment docket the other day and saw a gentleman explain to the judge that he was about to get fully disabled by a doctor who had diagnosed him as having one leg longer than the other. He wasn't disabled enough to not be charged with attempting to run away from a police officer.

unfortunately I agree with this...lol. The food stamp card is being looked at in Missouri, no gambling boats, no strip clubs, and few other things and people are actually pissed this might pass....good grief.

I'd ALMOST set up a warehouse, food, clothing, furniture...like a gov run SAMS. THAT'S where they would shop...

[Midtowner]

Mid, I know, you do LEGAL work for these down and out teens...you do anything else?

I occasionally mentor kids from a local high school.


you can lead a horse to water but ya can't make them drink...

I disagree. We just don't have adequate services at this point.


they have a black president, all kinds of programs, but ya know what..THEY don't do anything to make themselves better, WHEN, just WHEN will they take responsibility for THEIR actions?

There has to be fundamental cultural change for that to happen. I hate to use this as an example, because the intent there was absolutely abominable, but the Indian schools of the early 20th century did a decent job at shifting the Native American culture from what it was prior to the schools. Now in that case, I'm not sure our objection to aboriginal culture was as valid a pursuit as re-culturing a group of individuals who have a culture created by entitlements and services being available on a massive scale.

[olevetonahill]

and when the country goes belly up we'll all be crap...but that is what it's all about. If I can't have it neither can they.

I'm assuming as a lawyer, you make pretty good salary? How about you drop it to $55K (that's what I live on - GROSS not net) and spend the rest on scholarships, schools, etc. I could set you up real nice here in KCK. We need belts, underwear, socks, paper, ink for our printers, playground equipment, field trip funds...hmmm, I'll think of some more.

Bro. He is GOOD with that, Cept it needs to be SOD, not him

[Soonerjeepman]

ok...I'm out. going to go watch some bball even though OU LOST ANOTHER LEAD..and is out...UGH~

You ever get to KC I'll buy you a drink and we can bitch about politics.

[olevetonahill]

unfortunately I agree with this...lol. The food stamp card is being looked at in Missouri, no gambling boats, no strip clubs, and few other things and people are actually pissed this might pass....good grief.

I'd ALMOST set up a warehouse, food, clothing, furniture...like a gov run SAMS. THAT'S where they would shop...

40 years ago, The poor went to the county warehouse and got commodities and Garden seeds.
Then they went to the Church store for clothes and shat.
NOW they cant be embarrass, They need Phones and everything else.
Hell IF being POOR embarrasses you. then Get a JOB.

[olevetonahill]

ok...I'm out. going to go watch some bball even though OU LOST ANOTHER LEAD..and is out...UGH~

You ever get to KC I'll buy you a drink and we can bitch about politics.

Heh, I will Buy him Drinks all night. Prolly Slap his silly Lib azz a few times But I will buy him dranks.

[Soonerjeepman]

I occasionally mentor kids from a local high school.



I disagree. We just don't have adequate services at this point.



There has to be fundamental cultural change for that to happen. I hate to use this as an example, because the intent there was absolutely abominable, but the Indian schools of the early 20th century did a decent job at shifting the Native American culture from what it was prior to the schools. Now in that case, I'm not sure our objection to aboriginal culture was as valid a pursuit as re-culturing a group of individuals who have a culture created by entitlements and services being available on a massive scale.

really? at schools? I beg to differ..course not EVERY school is there. Unfortunately it's takes a FAMILY and at least 1 parent that GAS about making their child BETTER than them. Not sure if you were talking about schools, but that seems to be the focus of reform. Where I'm at the kids that are really behind don't have the family support. Honestly it's a cycle that throwing a bunch of programs at won't change.

[Soonerjeepman]

ok...bball....

[Midtowner]

and when the country goes belly up we'll all be crap...but that is what it's all about. If I can't have it neither can they.

I'm assuming as a lawyer, you make pretty good salary? How about you drop it to $55K (that's what I live on - GROSS not net) and spend the rest on scholarships, schools, etc. I could set you up real nice here in KCK. We need belts, underwear, socks, paper, ink for our printers, playground equipment, field trip funds...hmmm, I'll think of some more.

I do okay. Would I mind paying more taxes if I thought they'd be spent on legitimately breaking the cycle of poverty? Yes. I think poverty presents an existential crisis for the U.S. I am in favor of doing something about it rather than making it worse, which seems to be both parties' MO.

[olevetonahill]

ok...bball....

Enjoy Bro
Ima slap matlock some more if he keeps sayin STUPID shat .

[Midtowner]

really? at schools? I beg to differ..course not EVERY school is there. Unfortunately it's takes a FAMILY and at least 1 parent that GAS about making their child BETTER than them. Not sure if you were talking about schools, but that seems to be the focus of reform. Where I'm at the kids that are really behind don't have the family support. Honestly it's a cycle that throwing a bunch of programs at won't change.

I don't think it does necessarily take a family. I've seen lots of kids succeed in spite of their family. If I was declared Consul of the Republic, I'd set up institutional homes for any child who failed to perform in school, sort of re-education camps. I'd be violating the heck out of the Constitutional right to the custody, care and control of your children, but I'd be consul, so I'd say to hell with the Constitution, we're going to fix problems.

That said, some schools do a legitimate job of educating kids, even in bad neighborhoods. There's been some success, for example with KIPP.

[FirstandGoal]

You can add "uglier than the *** end of a pregnant aardvark" and "giant punanny who should have divorced her POS husband" to her resume as well. When people are talking about Hillary like she's the best thing out there you gotta know we're pretty much ****ed. In. The. A.

Oh Dean, I am so about to steal this and add it to my signature. :D

[rock on sooner]

Well...yeah? Why do you think all the stupid bitches voted for Clinton and Obama? You think our society is deeper than "who has the biggest hooters and nicest ***?" You give us far too much credit. The only reason McCain/Palin had anything close to a shot was because of Palin's looks.

The skinny chick with the big hands (can't think of her name) is absolutely right when she said something like "if women weren't allowed to vote there'd never be another democrat president." Also, drop all the xenophobic/homophobic/nigophobic male republicans horse crap. It weakens an already shakey argument/position.

You're thinking of Ms. Ann Coulter, female wannabe Rush...

[olevetonahill]

I don't think it does necessarily take a family.


Hells ****in bells Bells matlock. JUST when I think you cant Possibly anything more STUPIDER than you have in the Past YOU come up with this Gem.
Kill another Kid to save a Dog you Dumas.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

I'd rather burn this country to the ground and start over than see those two in the White House.

Now Sicem, Hillary is no Abraham Lincoln.

[olevetonahill]

Now Sicem, Hillary is no Abraham Lincoln.

He wernt ALIVE way back then

[Midtowner]

Hells ****in bells Bells matlock. JUST when I think you cant Possibly anything more STUPIDER than you have in the Past YOU come up with this Gem.
Kill another Kid to save a Dog you Dumas.

Typical Rube.

[Blue]

2016- Hillary
2020- Jeb bush
2024- Michelle obama
2028 Chelsea Clinton
2032- sasha and malia- co presidents

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The new monarchy!

[SicEmBaylor]

I was born 180 years too late.

[FaninAma]

2016- Hillary
2020- Jeb bush
2024- Michelle obama
2028 Chelsea Clinton
2032- sasha and malia- co presidents

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The new monarchy!

If another Bush, Clinton or Obama ever resides in the White House after 2016 you can rest assured I will not reside in this country.

[olevetonahill]

Typical Rube.

How am I being a Rube by pointing out your Stupidity?

[Midtowner]

How am I being a Rube by pointing out your Stupidity?

If ya have to ask.

[XingTheRubicon]

I was born 180 years too late.

the cannons don't thunder


there's nothin to plunder


I'm an over 40 victim of fate


arriving too late...


arriving too late

[MR2-Sooner86]

As far as political know how, imagine how a debate between the First Lady and Sarah Palin would go.

It's amazing how much people are still threatened by her.

"But I'm not threatened by her!"

Yeah you are. Don't lie because it makes you look like an idiot. She hasn't held a political office in over three years yet we're still going after her. Why?

"Uh she's an idiot and a c*nt herp derp duh!"

So you're letting somebody with a lower intelligence, that has no power to change or affect your life, occupy your time and energy?

The Democrats are stupid. Palin is laughing all the way to the bank at them. She's living, rent free, in their cranium and their obsession has gained her book deals, movie contracts, political speaking engagements, television air time, and whatever else she wants.

Again, she hasn't held any kind of political office in over three years. She's a commentator. She's Sean Hannity with long hair and a boob job. Where's all the Sean Hannity hate because I dislike that assbag more than I do her.

She's a threat because she's not everything the American voter has become sick with. Palin comes across as a down to Earth, simple, humble, working woman, that's American as apple pie. Let's compare that to the current D.C. Politicians who are rich old white guys who are well connected, over privileged, egotistical, arrogant, tyrannical, and look down their nose at the general population as peons.

Who do you think people will relate with? It's understandable why she's popular and those who disagree with her feel threatened, though they won't admit it, because of what she could do. They're just mad she's not on their side so they feel they must destroy her.

If the Democrats had their own Palin, Cindy the Super Socialist Soccer Mom, you bet your sweet @ss they'd be pumping her up as their non-Washington insider who's down to Earth and likable. What do they have though? Bulldyke Hillary, yeah, exciting.

Is Palin running for President? The Senate? The House? Governor? Why the f*ck are we talking about her then?

"She's so stupid and it's cool to make fun of her yuck yuck yuck!"

You might want to focus that time trying to clean up all the f*ckdumb Obama has spilled all over the Rose Garden. There's plenty there to keep you busy for a while.

"Well, uh that dumb b*tch could've been President back in '08 herp derp!"

Do we know for a fact we'd be in the same situation, or worse, if she were in charge? No? Alright it's pointless to argue. Also, if you can look me in the face and seriously say Palin is worse than Biden, you got Dem Donkey dick so far down your throat it's coming out your @sshole.


I do okay. Would I mind paying more taxes if I thought they'd be spent on legitimately breaking the cycle of poverty? Yes. I think poverty presents an existential crisis for the U.S. I am in favor of doing something about it rather than making it worse, which seems to be both parties' MO.

Translation: I don't give one ounce of a goddamn about those in poverty or less fortunate than me. I'd rather take the intellectual, and physically, lazy argument that me paying taxes helps (which it doesn't) instead of actually doing something. Besides, I'm just using poverty as an excuse to use the government's monopoly on force on those I'm materialistically jealous of.

Reminds me when Penn Jillette was being interviewed by Piers Morgan. Piers told Penn we need to raise taxes on the wealthy to "help" those in need. Penn just asked him, "What have you done to help them? You say one out of every seven Americans is on food stamps? That's six Americans who can help them." Piers response? "I'm telling people about these problems so we can find solutions (tax the rich) to them."

The average government dollar has $0.30 go to the people it's suppose to help.
The average dollar in the private sector has $0.70 go to the people it's suppose to help.

You want to help people? Get off your lazy @ss and go help them instead of screaming about bringing, what you see as, fairness to your form of social justice.

TL;DR
When it comes to "helping" those in need, statist gonna state.

[C&CDean]

Who are you, and what have you done with MR2???

Bra. Vo.

[cleller]

"The poor you will always have with you". A true statement. Governments will never break the cycle of poverty, it is part of the human condition. We have tons of people in the US living in air conditioned poverty with cable TV and Iphones. The government's programs have only provided a path of lesser resistance toward this way of life.

[okiewaker]

"The poor you will always have with you". A true statement. Governments will never break the cycle of poverty, it is part of the human condition. We have tons of people in the US living in air conditioned poverty with cable TV and Iphones. The government's programs have only provided a path of lesser resistance toward this way of life.

Pretty much,,,dead on!

[Soonerjeepman]

"The poor you will always have with you". A true statement. Governments will never break the cycle of poverty, it is part of the human condition. We have tons of people in the US living in air conditioned poverty with cable TV and Iphones. The government's programs have only provided a path of lesser resistance toward this way of life.

yup

[SanJoaquinSooner]

2016- Hillary
2020- Jeb bush
2024- Michelle obama
2028 Chelsea Clinton
2032- sasha and malia- co presidents

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The new monarchy!


Chelsea seems like a pretty sharp cookie. It's conceivable that she may one day make a great president.

[olevetonahill]

Chelsea seems like a pretty sharp cookie. It's conceivable that she may one day make a great president.

She looks like a feamle version of Howdy ****in Doody.
You know she would be MORE Liberal nutzo than her Ma an Pa both put together

[Soonerjeepman]

MR2...dead-on

thought you were a lib? lol j/k

I'm NOT a big SP fan, but I agree, not sure why so much hate~

[SanJoaquinSooner]

She looks like a feamle version of Howdy ****in Doody.
You know she would be MORE Liberal nutzo than her Ma an Pa both put together

I don't know that she would be MORE liberal. I bet she would be more conservative with hosting interns in the oval office.

[olevetonahill]

I don't know that she would be MORE liberal. I bet she would be more conservative with hosting interns in the oval office.

Yea, I bet she would have MALE interns and make sure they all had Cigars

[olevetonahill]

See what I mean?
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp5c58OOxlA2tso3OEu7kQeu4gNU4G5 mxn5QChtcEwYGXmiAjl7Q

[cleller]

See what I mean?
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp5c58OOxlA2tso3OEu7kQeu4gNU4G5 mxn5QChtcEwYGXmiAjl7Q

I looked her up on Wiki to see where she has worked. Out of college she got a job with a consulting firm doing fund raising. Logical, being the daughter of two powerful political figures. She now works for The Clinton Foundation. (Daddy) The only job where we got to see what should could do was the bit for NBC News, where she was not memorable at all.

[Midtowner]

http://cdn.blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2010/07/chelsea_clinton.jpg

FWIW, she's a very attractive lady. She looked kind of goofy in middle school. Oh well. That said, it's pretty typical of Republicans [ignorant bigots] to think that how a woman looks says anything about what kind of job she'd do. Bravo for reinforcing that stereotype though.

[cleller]

Ha ha. Republicans are "ignorant bigots" that are prone to stereotyping.


Stereotyping? Seems like I just witnessed that. Gotta be quick to implicate yourself in your own put-down.

[XingTheRubicon]

http://cdn.blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2010/07/chelsea_clinton.jpg

FWIW, she's a very attractive lady. She looked kind of goofy in middle school. Oh well. That said, it's pretty typical of Republicans [ignorant bigots] to think that how a woman looks says anything about what kind of job she'd do. Bravo for reinforcing that stereotype though.

So, if you knocked her up...would the that unborn fetus be worth more than your dog? You pretty much define ignorance.

[olevetonahill]

So, if you knocked her up...would the that unborn fetus be worth more than your dog? You pretty much define ignorance.

Agreed bro, Agreed. matlock says THATS attractive, shows just how much his opinion is worth. I'd would lay money he even thinks Michele is Great lookin.

[REDREX]

At least she is rich------ Bubba and Hill just bought her a $10,000,000 condo-----$12,000 per month in taxes and fees

[olevetonahill]

At least she is rich------ Bubba and Hill just bought her a $10,000,000 condo-----$12,000 per month in taxes and fees

Well that qualifies her to Be president some ****in day.:unconscious:

[TheHumanAlphabet]

yup


I second that yup...

[cleller]

These rich Dems have rigged the game.

[olevetonahill]

These rich Dems have rigged the game.

Ya mean like in that Other thread? Where folks are sayin its all ****** rigged?

[TheHumanAlphabet]

http://cdn.blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2010/07/chelsea_clinton.jpg

FWIW, she's a very attractive lady. She looked kind of goofy in middle school. Oh well. That said, it's pretty typical of Republicans [ignorant bigots] to think that how a woman looks says anything about what kind of job she'd do. Bravo for reinforcing that stereotype though.

Say Mid, How the hell does this young 20-something afford a 10M apartment in NYC? Could it be her felon father-in-law?

[SicEmBaylor]

So, if you knocked her up...would the that unborn fetus be worth more than your dog? You pretty much define ignorance.

If he knocked Hillary up, I believe the fetus would be called 'Rosemary's Baby.'

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Say Mid, How the hell does this young 20-something afford a 10M apartment in NYC? Could it be her felon father-in-law?HAY!!! Der Schlickster deflected all those accusations![which felony(ies) if committed by a conservative were you referring to?]

[olevetonahill]

HAY!!! Der Schlickster deflected all those accusations![which felony(ies) if committed by a conservative were you referring to?]

He said her Father IN LAW not her father.

While both being scum they from different ponds.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Jim McDougal, Ron Brown and Juanita Broderick are OFF LIMITS, mister!!!

[SicEmBaylor]

HAY!!! Der Schlickster deflected all those accusations![which felony(ies) if committed by a conservative were you referring to?]

He isn't talking about Bill -- he's talking about Chelsea's FIL.

At any rate, I'm confused as to why it's anyone's business or why anyone would care that she bought a 10m apartment in NYC.

So what? I say good for her and otherwise couldn't care less. Some of you people get so upset over the strangest most petty most asinine ****.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

He said her Father IN LAW not her father.

While both being scum they from different ponds.apologies for my error. As soon as I saw the word "felon", I made an incorrect assumption.

[olevetonahill]

He isn't talking about Bill -- he's talking about Chelsea's FIL.

At any rate, I'm confused as to why it's anyone's business or why anyone would care that she bought a 10m apartment in NYC.

So what? I say good for her and otherwise couldn't care less. Some of you people get so upset over the strangest most petty most asinine ****.

Who in the hell is upset? Cant we make fun of her Just cause we Can?

[FaninAma]

The white male isn't going to be the most important voting block in a very short period of time. If the Republican Party doesn't do something, outside of the Deep South, (except Tejas will be solid Blue).

I can't wait until we're more like Mexico or some other craptastic 3rd world country that the progressives so much seem to want us to be like. BTW, it is a Democrat wet dream that Texas will go blue anytime before 2025.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Who in the hell is upset? Cant we make fun of her Just cause we Can?I have read before on this board where Sicem isn't all that down on Der Schlickster.. I don't remember seeing what his opinion is of John Wilkes Boothe. Pardon if he has stated it before, and I either missed it or just don't recall.

[SicEmBaylor]

Who in the hell is upset? Cant we make fun of her Just cause we Can?

Sure. I'm just talking about people who are upset she bought a 10m apartment.

Anyway, she used to date a competitive swimmer when she was at Stanford. That tells me she has EXCELLENT taste in men.

[SicEmBaylor]

I have read before on this board where Sicem isn't all that down on Der Schlickster.. I don't remember seeing what his opinion is of John Wilkes Boothe. Pardon if he has stated it before, and I either missed it or just don't recall.

How you connected JWB with Clinton is a bit hard to figure out.

Clinton was the most conservative president we've had since Reagan. That doesn't excuse all the more unsavory aspects of his presidency, but post-1994 Clinton was a better President than both W. Bush and Obama. Mistakes aside...That's my opinion of Clinton. I'm positive we've discussed this before and you remember all of that.

As for Booth, he was a hero of the Republic. The war was not yet full concluded and Lincoln was the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the nation that Booth's country was at war with. This makes Lincoln a perfectly acceptable military target. Although Booth didn't have government authorization for his actions, he did what he thought necessary to protect his country. The problem is that he didn't do it years sooner.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

How you connected JWB with Clinton is a bit hard to figure out.


As for Booth, he was a hero of the Republic. The war was not yet full concluded and Lincoln was the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the nation that Booth's country was at war with. This makes Lincoln a perfectly acceptable military target. Although Booth didn't have government authorization for his actions, he did what he thought necessary to protect his country. The problem is that he didn't do it years sooner.Just comparing your liking Clinton, who was an unconvicted (untried even) likely commiter of felonies, to John W. Booth, a man I knew you liked. Your defending Chelsea's largess was a reminder of your soft spot for the Schlickster.

[olevetonahill]

Sure. I'm just talking about people who are upset she bought a 10m apartment.

Anyway, she used to date a competitive swimmer when she was at Stanford. That tells me she has EXCELLENT taste in men.
And I'll ax again, Who in the hell is upset? It was mentioned that her daddy felon inlaw bot it fer em. Other than that who GAS?

[SanJoaquinSooner]

I looked her up on Wiki to see where she has worked. Out of college she got a job with a consulting firm doing fund raising. Logical, being the daughter of two powerful political figures. She now works for The Clinton Foundation. (Daddy) The only job where we got to see what should could do was the bit for NBC News, where she was not memorable at all.

Are you stationed in China? Apparently, you're getting an abridged version of Wiki.

[cleller]

Are you stationed in China? Apparently, you're getting an abridged version of Wiki.

I was pointing out that her career achievements have probably been influenced by her lineage, citing her first job and current job. Here is the entire Wiki posting under "professional life".


"In 2003, Clinton joined the consulting firm McKinsey & Company in New York City,[23] and went to work for Avenue Capital Group in the fall of 2006. She served as co-chairperson for a fund-raising week for the Clinton Foundation, and serves on the board of the School of American Ballet.[23] On September 22, 2011, she was elected to IAC's board of directors.[38]


On November 14, 2011, NBC announced that it hired Clinton as a special correspondent, reporting feature stories about "Making a Difference" for NBC Nightly News and Rock Center with Brian Williams. It was a three-month contract and allowed her to concurrently continue working for the Clinton Foundation and pursue her education.[39][40] Clinton's first appearance was on the December 12, 2011, episode of Rock Center.[41] Although she received critical reviews for her work, Clinton's contract with NBC was renewed in February 2012.[42][43][44]"

end

If you're wondering what the IAC thing is, its Barry Diller's InterActive Corp. The NY Times called called her appointment purely political, and something she "clearly did not earn".
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/handicapping-iacs-investment-in-chelsea-clinton/

Diller is paying $300,000 a year for this. More of that obscene corporate pay thing.

[olevetonahill]

I was pointing out that her career achievements have probably been influence by her lineage. Here is the entire Wiki posting under "professional life". It looks like she had one other job I didn't mention:


In 2003, Clinton joined the consulting firm McKinsey & Company in New York City,[23] and went to work for Avenue Capital Group in the fall of 2006. She served as co-chairperson for a fund-raising week for the Clinton Foundation, and serves on the board of the School of American Ballet.[23] On September 22, 2011, she was elected to IAC's board of directors.[38]

On November 14, 2011, NBC announced that it hired Clinton as a special correspondent, reporting feature stories about "Making a Difference" for NBC Nightly News and Rock Center with Brian Williams. It was a three-month contract and allowed her to concurrently continue working for the Clinton Foundation and pursue her education.[39][40] Clinton's first appearance was on the December 12, 2011, episode of Rock Center.[41] Although she received critical reviews for her work, Clinton's contract with NBC was renewed in February 2012.[42][43][44]

And that qualifies her to be ****in PRESIDENT someday. Now leave the goofy lookin bitch alone.;)

[Midtowner]

And that qualifies her to be ****in PRESIDENT someday. Now leave the goofy lookin bitch alone.;)

That's not a bad resumé for someone in their early 30s.

[olevetonahill]

That's not a bad resumé for someone in their early 30s.

Says the goofy talkin ****er defending the goofy lookin bitch:strawberry:

[Turd_Ferguson]

That's not a bad resumé for someone in their early 30s.

She'll probably turn out to be some scum bag ****'n loyer...

[Midtowner]

Well, I know you equate the practice of law with success, good looks and fortune, but I doubt it.

[olevetonahill]

Well, I know you equate the practice of law with success, good looks and fortune, but I doubt it.

We have some Fine attorneys on this Board. YOU however dont seem to be one of them.

[diverdog]

How you connected JWB with Clinton is a bit hard to figure out.

Clinton was the most conservative president we've had since Reagan. That doesn't excuse all the more unsavory aspects of his presidency, but post-1994 Clinton was a better President than both W. Bush and Obama. Mistakes aside...That's my opinion of Clinton. I'm positive we've discussed this before and you remember all of that.

As for Booth, he was a hero of the Republic. The war was not yet full concluded and Lincoln was the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the nation that Booth's country was at war with. This makes Lincoln a perfectly acceptable military target. Although Booth didn't have government authorization for his actions, he did what he thought necessary to protect his country. The problem is that he didn't do it years sooner.

You have a warped sense of history.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You have a warped sense of history.It escapes him that Clinton was for Socialized Medicine, but the Democrat congress in '92 wasn't ready yet to jam it down the throats of America, so we elected republicans to control the House and senate in '94, and they put a lot of crimps on Clinton's socialist aspirations. His raking in illegal donations from foreign sources apparently doesn't bother Sicem either.

[ouwasp]

Haven't read past the first page of the thread, but I'm betting, with the way the Electoral College is so blue-friendly, that this ticket could win easy. As absurd as that sounds.

Welcome to the Democratic Peoples Republic of America.

[SicEmBaylor]

It escapes him that Clinton was for Socialized Medicine, but the Democrat congress in '92 wasn't ready yet to jam it down the throats of America, so we elected republicans to control the House and senate in '94, and they put a lot of crimps on Clinton's socialist aspirations. His raking in illegal donations from foreign sources apparently doesn't bother Sicem either.

It hasn't escaped me at all. I specified post-1994 in my post. I also said that there is plenty that I don't like about Clinton. However, what I am doing is judging purely on what he did do rather than what he wanted/tried to do. What he didn't do was attempt to micro-manage the economy like the current President. What he didn't do was get in the way of the market correction when the tech bubble collapsed unliked his two successors. What he didn't do was create huge new entitlement programs like his successor. What he didn't do was involve the Federal government in our education system in ways his successor did.

And, if you want to talk about foreign money then Clinton and the Democrats are hardly alone. Do you want discuss how much money the Bush family has got from the Saudis over the years? Neither major political party is clean of foreign money.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

It hasn't escaped me at all. I specified post-1994 in my post. I also said that there is plenty that I don't like about Clinton. However, what I am doing is judging purely on what he did do rather than what he wanted/tried to do. What he didn't do was attempt to micro-manage the economy like the current President. What he didn't do was get in the way of the market correction when the tech bubble collapsed unliked his two successors. What he didn't do was create huge new entitlement programs like his successor. What he didn't do was involve the Federal government in our education system in ways his successor did.

And, if you want to talk about foreign money then Clinton and the Democrats are hardly alone. Do you want discuss how much money the Bush family has got from the Saudis over the years? Neither major political party is clean of foreign money.I'll not defend, nor approve of some of the stuff that W did. I never have. But, you appear to have a much higher regard fof Der Scklick than he deserves. I will say he's a load better than the Obear. He doesn't despise America like Beary, but he is much more socialist than anyone I can think of in republican national politics, even Christy and McCain. To have sir Hillry or Moochelle in the White House would finish us off, indeed...if there's anything left to finish off by then.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

I can't wait until we're more like Mexico or some other craptastic 3rd world country that the progressives so much seem to want us to be like. BTW, it is a Democrat wet dream that Texas will go blue anytime before 2025.

^^^This. Many places in the SW and Texas already look like the third world. Thanks a lot progressives and letting illegals in...

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Sure. I'm just talking about people who are upset she bought a 10m apartment.

'Sic: I DGAS that she bought a 10M home, I wonder how a young'un like her with no means of employment could afford this place, let alone get a mortgage. That is all...

More as to the elitist Progressives who think they are so intelligent and moneyed that they want to make the decisions for you and keep you from becoming fabulously wealthy. The Progressives want to limit wealth to their pool of intelligencia...

[OU_Sooners75]

Can you post without appearing to be such an ignorant rube? Ask a question of substance. Point out a fact. Point out an inconsistency in something. I could take any reply you've made to any of my posts. I swear they appear to be cut/pastes because all you do is call names, I guess in an effort to mask your own inadequacies?

Just STFU if you don't have anything of substance to say.

What substance does this post of yours have?

Why don't you STFU and let the grown ups talk you fvcking monkey.

[Midtowner]

You're about a week late to defend your lil buddy there.

[OU_Sooners75]

You're about a week late to defend your lil buddy there.

Im not defending anyone numbnuts....Im pointing out that you are a fvcking monkey that needs to shut his pie hole.


How stupid you act on this board, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a starving lawyer!

[olevetonahill]

Sides I dont need any one to defend me against an ignoranus.:congratulatory: