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XingTheRubicon
2/20/2013, 01:14 PM
heh

http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-woman-claims-she-fired-obama-vote-143706582.html


DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — A southwest Ohio woman who says she was fired because she voted for President Barack Obama filed a lawsuit against her former employer.

Patricia Kunkle's lawsuit accuses Dayton-based defense contractor Q-Mark Inc. and its president of telling employees that if Obama was re-elected, then his supporters would be the first to be fired, The Dayton Daily News (http://bit.ly/YxE10A) reported.

Brian Wildermuth, an attorney for the company president, said in a statement that Kunkle was laid off for economic reasons — "nothing more."

"I am sure you and your readers are familiar with the ongoing uncertainties regarding defense spending, and thus the economic environment confronting defense contractors," he said. "The allegation that Q-Mark discharged Ms. Kunkle because of her vote is simply false."

Kunkle, of Kettering, has an unlisted phone number and her Dayton attorney didn't immediately respond to a request to speak with her.

The lawsuit, filed in Montgomery County Common Pleas Court on Feb. 14, seeks a minimum of $25,000. It says that Kunkle's vote came up in conversation on Nov. 7, the day after the election, and that she was fired Nov. 9. The suit claims that the company's president and owner, Roberta Gentile, said the firing was in the "best interest of the company."

The lawsuit said that Gentile engaged Q-Mark employees in conversations aimed at discovering their political affiliations and repeatedly disparaged Obama supporters.

Kunkle started as a temporary worker with the small company in April and became full-time in May, according to the lawsuit. The lawsuit said that she performed her duties "efficiently and effectively," and never received any disciplinary action or negative performance evaluations.

Defense attorneys have until mid-March to respond to the lawsuit.


Yes we can.


Don't forget, your boss is a most likely a republican and your boss signs your checks.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/20/2013, 01:31 PM
I am interested in knowing whether an employer in the private sector can fire and hire who they want. Also, does it matter if that business deals with the govt. as a customer, and if so, how much of their business has to be from the govt. to be required to be treated as a govt. entity instead of private sector.

olevetonahill
2/20/2013, 01:33 PM
She dint get fired fer votin fer him, She got fired fer being ****in STUPID.

C&CDean
2/20/2013, 01:35 PM
She dint get fired fer votin fer him, She got fired fer being ****in STUPID.

That's pretty much my thought on the matter.

XingTheRubicon
2/20/2013, 01:43 PM
YES WE CAN

unemployment office

YES WE CAN

subscribing to netflix

YES WE CAN

at DHS applying for food stamps

YES WE CAN

moving back in with parents

YES WE CAN

reading huffington post for 3 hours

YES WE CAN

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/20/2013, 01:55 PM
YES WE CAN

unemployment office

YES WE CAN

subscribing to netflix

YES WE CAN

at DHS applying for food stamps

YES WE CAN

moving back in with parents

YES WE CAN

reading huffington post for 3 hours

YES WE CANReading/listening to MSM, thinking they are reporting things accurately, and without an authoritarian, socialist agenda.

etc. etc. etc.

FaninAma
2/20/2013, 02:11 PM
I am interested in knowing whether an employer in the private sector can fire and hire who they want. Also, does it matter if that business deals with the govt. as a customer, and if so, how much of their business has to be from the govt. to be required to be treated as a govt. entity instead of private sector.
Depends on the size of your business. In Texas a small business with under 60 employees can fire anybody without cause.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/20/2013, 05:15 PM
The girl is looking to "win the lottery", and take down an evil capitalist at the same time. She, and her esquires, should feel proud.

rock on sooner
2/20/2013, 05:19 PM
If, a big if, he did and she proves it, she will "win the lottery." ...at will state
or not....

badger
2/20/2013, 05:24 PM
The girl is looking to "win the lottery", and take down an evil capitalist at the same time. She, and her esquires, should feel proud.

lottery wining, aside from the big jackpot, much like robbing a 7-11 or a bank, is overrated money. Sure, you get it for doing nothing but scratching the silver sh!t off the card, or by holding a fake gun that looks real at a poor teen teller, but you could have made that several hundred in a week's work of minimum waging. You could have made that $25,000 in less than a year's salary at the Obama job you were Obama firing from, Ms. Obama voter.

To prove her case she will have to prove one important factor: How the hell did your voting become common knowledge among your boss. Did you decorate your cubicle with Obama signs and stickers? Did you have a framed photo of Obama with a heart drawn around it? None of those prove that you voted for Obama. Even saying that you voted for Obama publicly doesn't prove it (think Wisconsin voters in '88 saying they voted for Jesse Jackson in exit polls, even though they really didn't, just so they sounded less racist).

I don't think she can prove that important fact, so I think she loses her case.

Midtowner
2/20/2013, 05:25 PM
The employer possibly broke the law:


3599.05 Corrupt practices - employer shall not influence political opinions or votes of employees.
No employer or his agent or a corporation shall print or authorize to be printed upon any pay envelopes any statements intended or calculated to influence the political action of his or its employees; or post or exhibit in the establishment or anywhere in or about the establishment any posters, placards, or hand bills containing any threat, notice, or information that if any particular candidate is elected or defeated work in the establishment will cease in whole or in part, or other threats expressed or implied, intended to influence the political opinions or votes of his or its employees.

Whoever violates this section is guilty of corrupt practices, and shall be punished by a fine of not less than five hundred nor more than one thousand dollars.

Effective Date: 10-01-1953

Aside from the statute being pretty ambiguous and possibly not enforceable because it seems to criminalize an employer's First Amendment speech, I don't understand how she can get from the fact that this is a crime to that she now is entitled to $25,000.

I don't get it. Crap lawsuits are filed and thrown out every day.

kevpks
2/20/2013, 05:49 PM
heh

http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-woman-claims-she-fired-obama-vote-143706582.html




Yes we can.


Don't forget, your boss is a most likely a republican and your boss signs your checks.

Her case seems pretty thin but if true, political affiliation is a petty, stupid reason to fire an employee if he or she is getting the job done. Any manager who thinks like that probably sucks at his job regardless of his affiliation. I'm in higher ed. It doesn't get anymore liberal than my field, so I guess I've seen the opposite of this. In my experience, the faculty and administrators who fixated on the political affiliations of those around them were the most inept. When I'm at school, my focus is my students and my work.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/20/2013, 07:37 PM
Her case seems pretty thin but if true, political affiliation is a petty, stupid reason to fire an employee if he or she is getting the job done. Any manager who thinks like that probably sucks at his job regardless of his affiliation. I'm in higher ed. It doesn't get anymore liberal than my field, so I guess I've seen the opposite of this. In my experience, the faculty and administrators who fixated on the political affiliations of those around them were the most inept. When I'm at school, my focus is my students and my work. Ah, the moral equivalency thingy. Move right along, folks.

kevpks
2/20/2013, 07:57 PM
Ah, the moral equivalency thingy. Move right along, folks.

I don't see the difference between one of your GOP management heroes firing an Obama voter and an academic department ostracizing a conservative or impeding their tenure process. Both are despicable overreaches of authority if they occur. I don't know if that's what happened in this case, but if it did it's bogus. The latter scenario I mentioned is why I keep my political views to myself at work. It's laughable that I seem like a liberal on this board to some of you people.

kevpks
2/20/2013, 07:59 PM
I suppose I could be wrong. I'd love to hear how an employee voting for a candidate has anything to do with his/her performance and spare me any "Obammy voters are lazy" anecdotes.

olevetonahill
2/20/2013, 08:03 PM
I suppose I could be wrong. I'd love to hear how an employee voting for a candidate has anything to do with his/her performance and spare me any "Obammy voters are lazy" anecdotes.

I dint read anything about her Job performance, Just they dint Like her votin fer Obammy.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/20/2013, 08:12 PM
I don't see the difference between one of your GOP management heroes firing an Obama voter and an academic department ostracizing a conservative or impeding their tenure process. Both are despicable overreaches of authority if they occur. I don't know if that's what happened in this case, but if it did it's bogus. The latter scenario I mentioned is why I keep my political views to myself at work. It's laughable that I seem like a liberal on this board to some of you people.A vote for Obama is a vote against the private sector. If one works in the private sector, well, it's a vote against your company, and the private sector itself. IMHO, This is not difficult to SEE.

Curly Bill
2/20/2013, 11:53 PM
She voted for change, and she got it! She should be happy.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/21/2013, 12:00 AM
She voted for change, and she got it! She should be happy.She and her lawyers will be happy to get a big settlement, for having the courage to enlist the forces of govt. on that power-hungry business owner.

Soonerjeepman
2/21/2013, 12:19 AM
well..of course voting for obama got her fired....he's cutting defense spending which in turn cut work from the company..they had to let someone go, why not the one's that voted for the guy responsible for less work~

sappstuf
2/21/2013, 01:53 AM
TTIWWOP

olevetonahill
2/21/2013, 01:57 AM
TTIWWOP

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diverdog
2/21/2013, 02:13 AM
Here ya go, Ya want another?

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pfft. When my peers found out I voted for Obama they just called me a dumb ***. All I did was provide them with fodder to rib me for the next 4 years. It is in good fun.

olevetonahill
2/21/2013, 02:21 AM
pfft. When my peers found out I voted for Obama they just called me a dumb ***. All I did was provide them with fodder to rib me for the next 4 years. It is in good fun.

The Ribbin might all be in Good fun, But I aint so sure about the next 4 years :disgust:

diverdog
2/21/2013, 03:22 AM
The Ribbin might all be in Good fun, But I aint so sure about the next 4 years :disgust:

We will be okay. The nation has been through a whole lot worse. It ain't as though someone is asking us to jump of a Higgins boat and walk into machine gun fire.

olevetonahill
2/21/2013, 08:42 AM
Gas hittin 4 bucks and Prolly headed fer 5. Groceries are so dayum spensive Im starting to look at the deer like Food instead of Pets.

Yea we be fine. :concern: