Minimum wage proposal

[BigTip]

I don't think Obama is going far enough. I think he should make the minimum wage $30/hour so that everyone will be rich.

[SoonerorLater]

I don't think Obama is going far enough. I think he should make the minimum wage $30/hour so that everyone will be rich.

I think your proposal is inadequate. If we we could make it $50.00 everybody would be better off. If businesses say they can't afford it then the Fed can just print up a few more C Notes and it's all cool.

[Ton Loc]

He should have told everyone minimum wage is for high school and college kids. You're not supposed to be raising a family on it. But that would be preaching responsibility - and who wants to hear that.

[Sooner5030]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8Z__o52sk&feature=player_embedded

[kevpks]

I always sought out jobs that paid above minimum wage, even in high school. That $8/hr went pretty far back then. I had a car and all the video games I wanted. Not a lot of dates, but you can't have it all.

I don't recall having any notable skills at 16 other than a friendly demeanor and work ethic. I guess the market was better in 1996. It's a pretty sad situation if an adult with a family has to settle for a minimum wage job.

[BigTip]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8Z__o52sk&feature=player_embedded

There you go using facts and logic to screw up a perfectly good dreamy "wouldn't it be nice" idea. Geez. And who is this Milton Friedman guy anyway? No doubt some unrespected, never published, non-Nobel prize winning, wingnut with an agenda. Geez again.

But non-sarcastically; A bonus to that video was how he points out that the "do gooders" are just tools of special interests.

[cleller]

Friedman is from Chicago, he must be right.

Interesting vid. Sure looks like a guy you'd hate to match brains with. Would love to have seen him argue it out with Ted Kennedy.

[soonercruiser]

Friedman is from Chicago, he must be right.

Interesting vid. Sure looks like a guy you'd hate to match brains with. Would love to have seen him argue it out with Ted Kennedy.

That would have been a drinking game!
:playful:

[olevetonahill]

I always sought out jobs that paid above minimum wage, even in high school. That $8/hr went pretty far back then. I had a car and all the video games I wanted. Not a lot of dates, but you can't have it all.

I don't recall having any notable skills at 16 other than a friendly demeanor and work ethic. I guess the market was better in 1996. It's a pretty sad situation if an adult with a family has to settle for a minimum wage job.

Thats funny as hell, 8 bucks an hour for a KID to work . Hell it was a buck 65 when I was a senior

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Friedman is from Chicago, he must be right.

Interesting vid. Sure looks like a guy you'd hate to match brains with. Would love to have seen him argue it out with Ted Kennedy.

His intellectual nemesis was Paul Samuelson.

Samuelson wrote a weekly column for Newsweek magazine along with Friedman, where they represented opposing sides: Samuelson took the Keynesian perspective, and Friedman represented the Monetarist perspective.

[SCOUT]

His intellectual nemesis was Paul Samuelson.

Samuelson wrote a weekly column for Newsweek magazine along with Friedman, where they represented opposing sides: Samuelson took the Keynesian perspective, and Friedman represented the Monetarist perspective.
Isn't it sad that a journalistic entity providing opposing perspectives seems nostalgic?

[LakeRat]

Thats funny as hell, 8 bucks an hour for a KID to work . Hell it was a buck 65 when I was a senior

I worked for my dad and was told it was payment for rent!! You had it made!!

[olevetonahill]

I worked for my dad and was told it was payment for rent!! You had it made!!

Naw, when I worked for dad it was the same thing, To help the family. The 1.65 was when I worked at the Local service station and such

[badger]

I worked for my dad and was told it was payment for rent!! You had it made!!

I too had parents with no concept of payment for services among their children. I plan to institute it with baby baj whenever she's old enough to start begging for money for stuff.

If the real issue is that people can't afford to live, set minimum standards of living, not minimum standards of wage. In return for being a productive, full-time worker in society, you get a minimum standard of healthcare. You get a minimum standard of public transportation. You get a minimum allowance for food (which cannot be used on alcohol, pre-prepared food like McDonald's and unhealthy sh!t like potato chips).

If you want anything beyond the minimum standard of living, you have to work more hours, have a higher skilled job via more education, etc.

If you are just doling out more money to people via a higher minimum wage, then buy stocks in the fast food, Gamestop and Budweiser and try to ignore the poors whining that they can't afford gas, health insurance and food.

[olevetonahill]

Guess ya had to have been raised in a different time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inxtEhb812U

[LakeRat]

I too had parents with no concept of payment for services among their children. I plan to institute it with baby baj whenever she's old enough to start begging for money for stuff.

If the real issue is that people can't afford to live, set minimum standards of living, not minimum standards of wage. In return for being a productive, full-time worker in society, you get a minimum standard of healthcare. You get a minimum standard of public transportation. You get a minimum allowance for food (which cannot be used on alcohol, pre-prepared food like McDonald's and unhealthy sh!t like potato chips).

If you want anything beyond the minimum standard of living, you have to work more hours, have a higher skilled job via more education, etc.

If you are just doling out more money to people via a higher minimum wage, then buy stocks in the fast food, Gamestop and Budweiser and try to ignore the poors whining that they can't afford gas, health insurance and food.

I come from a upper mid class family. (Obama would have called us evil rich) My lil brother was given all the opportunities that one could ever ask. Me and my older bro, are business owners who provide several jobs.

Lil bro, works as lil as possible to pay for rent. But he eats better than I can afford to eat bc of food stamps. He eats steak and I eat raman noodles, campells(Sp?) soup, etc. . .

I am so anti food stamps you would never understand!! Create a soup kitchen and call it a day. Anyone can go. You don't even need apply. We have some studio apartments over here. You need help with rent, here you go. It has a community bathroom and a fireplace to cook off of. You want more in life, work for it!! I am tired of paying people to be lazy bums. My own family included.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I think your proposal is inadequate. If we we could make it $50.00 everybody would be better off. If businesses say they can't afford it then the Fed can just print up a few more C Notes and it's all cool.Then they could REALLY fix it if they were to ban INFLATION.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

There you go using facts and logic to screw up a perfectly good dreamy "wouldn't it be nice" idea. Geez. And who is this Milton Friedman guy anyway? No doubt some unrespected, never published, non-Nobel prize winning, wingnut with an agenda. Geez again.

But non-sarcastically; A bonus to that video was how he points out that the "do gooders" are just tools of special interests.Milty was the BEST. Back in the 80's, the US had Friedman and Reagan was president, being the type of leader the country really needed. I thought we were set up well for the future of the country and world. We were blindsided in '92, and the collectivist forces were re-energized.

[Curly Bill]

I come from a upper mid class family. (Obama would have called us evil rich) My lil brother was given all the opportunities that one could ever ask. Me and my older bro, are business owners who provide several jobs.

Lil bro, works as lil as possible to pay for rent. But he eats better than I can afford to eat bc of food stamps. He eats steak and I eat raman noodles, campells(Sp?) soup, etc. . .

I am so anti food stamps you would never understand!! Create a soup kitchen and call it a day. Anyone can go. You don't even need apply. We have some studio apartments over here. You need help with rent, here you go. It has a community bathroom and a fireplace to cook off of. You want more in life, work for it!! I am tired of paying people to be lazy bums. My own family included.

But you're not trying to get elected.

[soonercruiser]

Thats funny as hell, 8 bucks an hour for a KID to work . Hell it was a buck 65 when I was a senior

Come on Vet!
I can remember as a youth in WV I rejoyced when it hit $1 an hour.

[soonercruiser]

Milty was the BEST. Back in the 80's, the US had Friedman and Reagan was president, being the type of leader the country really needed. I thought we were set up well for the future of the country and world. We were blindsided in '92, and the collectivist forces were re-energized.

Back in the day, that would have been Milton Berle!
He was one of the best!

[SoonerorLater]

His intellectual nemesis was Paul Samuelson.

Samuelson wrote a weekly column for Newsweek magazine along with Friedman, where they represented opposing sides: Samuelson took the Keynesian perspective, and Friedman represented the Monetarist perspective.

Who represented the Austrian Perspective?

[olevetonahill]

Come on Vet!
I can remember as a youth in WV I rejoyced when it hit $1 an hour.

Before the buck 65 I dont think there was a Minimum wage but i guess there was.I just never read about it.


My 1st full time jorb was in 64 I worked a Ranch/Rice farm 7 days a week from before Cansee to way past cantsee for 14 bucks a week.

[okie52]

Before the buck 65 I dont think there was a Minimum wage but i guess there was.I just never read about it.


My 1st full time jorb was in 64 I worked a Ranch/Rice farm 7 days a week from before Cansee to way past cantsee for 14 bucks a week.

$1.60 was my minimum wage in 1969 working for a grocery store. Hell, I thought I had hit the jackpot since I was making $1.00 an hour at a restaurant before that.

[BigTip]

I am so anti food stamps you would never understand!! Create a soup kitchen and call it a day. Anyone can go. You don't even need apply. We have some studio apartments over here. You need help with rent, here you go. It has a community bathroom and a fireplace to cook off of. You want more in life, work for it!! I am tired of paying people to be lazy bums. My own family included.

I too find great offense in the food stamp program. I had thought that the food stamp people were limited as to what they could buy. I was shocked last year when a guy paid with his basket full of luxury items with food stamps. Maybe there is a list of things they can buy and the stores don't enforce it. I don't know, but it sure as hell needs to be fixed.

The problem is that the definition of poverty has changed in this country. If you only have standard cable TV now, you are poor. If your cell phone doesn't have the unlimited talk plan, you are poor. If you can only eat at McDonald's once a week, you are poor.

There would be a lot more people working if public assistance only meant keeping you fed and housed, but not in "luxury".

[BigTip]

We were blindsided in '92, and the collectivist forces were re-energized.

I always have resented Bush for giving that election away. It didn't all come down to looking at his watch during the debate. But that certainly generalized how he approached the entire campaign.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Back in the day, that would have been Milton Berle!
He was one of the best!Berle was a great comic, always one of my faves, but I Shirley don't know if he was as astute as Friedman about economics.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I always have resented Bush for giving that election away. It didn't all come down to looking at his watch during the debate. But that certainly generalized how he approached the entire campaign.We came to realize the full power of the MSM during the '92 election. They fought Reagan tooth and nail, but Reagan knew what he was up against, and took his messages straight to the people. There hasn't been a conservative, or even a not-so-conservative republican with the ability to do that since Reagan.

[SoonerInFortSmith]

If the real issue is that people can't afford to live, set minimum standards of living, not minimum standards of wage. In return for being a productive, full-time worker in society, you get a minimum standard of healthcare. You get a minimum standard of public transportation. You get a minimum allowance for food (which cannot be used on alcohol, pre-prepared food like McDonald's and unhealthy sh!t like potato chips).

If you want anything beyond the minimum standard of living, you have to work more hours, have a higher skilled job via more education, etc.


I never really took you for a socialist type Badg. Its a good idea in theory but doesn't turn out well in practice.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I never really took you for a socialist type Badg. Its a good idea in theory but doesn't turn out well in practice.It's that type of govt. control that causes the economic ball to run downhill, like we are experiencing right now.

[yermom]

Reagan wouldn't even make the ballot if he was around nowadays

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Reagan wouldn't even make the ballot if he was around nowadaysThey(you guys on the left, especially in the MSM) tried their damndest to get him back in '80 and '84, too. There's nobody around now who has surfaced. Too bad that we're stuck with a downward spiraling economy, and folks still vote for it again.

[KABOOKIE]

Reagan wouldn't even make the ballot if he was around nowadays

Wouldn't matter anyway. King Obama and socialist propaganda is going to win every time until the whole system crashes.

[badger]

I never really took you for a socialist type Badg. Its a good idea in theory but doesn't turn out well in practice.

I know it doesn't. Neither does raising the minimum wage