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okie52
2/14/2013, 10:31 AM
Republicans linking Hagel's nomination to demand for information from White House on Benghazi


02-14-2013 07:52 AM CST |By RICHARD LARDNER, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (Associated Press) --
Senate Republicans have questioned Chuck Hagel's truthfulness and they've challenged his patriotism.

Now they're threatening to stonewall his nomination to be President Barack Obama's defense secretary unless the White House gives them more information about what Obama was doing on the night of the deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has set the stage for a full Senate vote on Hagel, a former two-term Republican senator from Nebraska and twice-wounded Vietnam combat veteran. Reid filed a motion Wednesday to limit debate and force a vote, which is expected to be held Friday. While Democrats hold a 55-45 edge in the Senate and have the numbers to confirm Hagel on a majority vote, they need the support of five Republicans to clear the way for an up-or-down vote on him.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he'll vote against ending debate on Hagel's nomination, and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., may join him, if the White House doesn't tell them whether Obama spoke to any Libyan government official during the assault and requested assistance for the American personnel at the mission. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans died in the raid last September at the compound in Benghazi.

"There seems to not be much interest to hold this president accountable for a national security breakdown that led to the first ambassador being killed in the line of duty in over 30 years," Graham said. "No, the debate on Chuck Hagel is not over. It has not been serious. We don't have the information we need. And I'm going to fight the idea of jamming somebody through until we get answers about what the president did personally when it came to the Benghazi debacle."

McCain declined to say Wednesday whether he would try to delay Hagel's confirmation if Obama did not provide an answer. "My position right now is I want an answer to the question," he said.

The nomination of John Brennan as CIA director is also being delayed; the Senate Intelligence Committee is pushing off a vote amid demands that the White House turn over more details about drone strikes against terror suspects and about the Benghazi attacks. Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein of California said a vote likely will be postponed till late February.

A president's pick for a Cabinet post usually requires only a majority vote, leading Reid to accuse Senate Republicans of orchestrating a filibuster against a nominee for defense secretary for the first time in the country's history.

But the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee challenged Reid's claim, saying it's not unusual to hold a Cabinet nominee to a 60-vote threshold. "It's not a filibuster," said Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla. "This has happened (before), and it's happening again right now."

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said he's confident that the White House will supply the information Graham and McCain want and that Hagel will be confirmed.

A bitterly divided Armed Services Committee on Tuesday voted to approve Hagel by a 14-11 vote, with all the panel's Democrats backing him. The committee's Republicans were unified in opposition to their onetime colleague, who will succeed Defense Secretary Leon Panetta if he's confirmed.

Hagel has faced intense opposition from Republicans, who have challenged his past statements and votes on Israel, Iran, Iraq and nuclear weapons.

But the questions and comments before Tuesday's vote took a more personal and confrontational turn. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, demanded that Hagel provide information on compensation for speeches over a five-year period _ three years more than required _ and suggested that without the information, the committee wouldn't know whether Hagel got money from "extreme and radical groups."

Inhofe said reports about Iranian leaders praising Hagel's nomination back up Cruz's claim. "I'd say he's endorsed by them. You can't get any cozier than that," Inhofe said.

Sen. Susan Collins, a moderate Republican senator from Maine once thought to be a possible backer of Hagel's nomination, said Wednesday she'll oppose his confirmation. Hagel's views on the most critical threats facing the United States are "unsettling," she said in a four-page statement.

Collins said Hagel was unwilling to ask the European Union to designate Hezbollah a terrorist organization in 2006, and he has been hesitant to back the use of all nonmilitary options, such as unilateral sanctions, to pressure Iran into ceasing its nuclear program.

But Collins, who serves on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said she would not join in a filibuster to block a final vote.

In a statement, Collins said that Hagel's "courageous military service deserves our praise and gratitude" and that he cares deeply about the welfare of the troops. But she said she could not get past what she described as Hagel's troubling record on key national security issues. Confirming him as defense secretary would send the wrong message to the country's allies and adversaries about the resolve of the United States, Collins said.

"I am unable to support Senator Hagel to be the next secretary of defense because I do not believe his past positions, votes and statements match the challenges of our time, and his presentations at his (confirmation) hearing did nothing to ease my doubts," Collins said. "I regret having to reach that conclusion given our personal relationship and my admiration for Senator Hagel's military service. But I have concluded that he is not well-suited for the tremendous challenges our country faces during this dangerous era in our history."

Two Republicans _ Sens. Thad Cochran of Mississippi and Mike Johanns of Nebraska _ have announced their support for Hagel.


I'm enjoying the delays for Hagel's approval and any problems it might throw his way.

Soonerjeepman
2/14/2013, 01:05 PM
seriously? you said you can't confirm him but won't support the filibuster to block a final vote...nice job there, way to be strong.


Sen. Susan Collins, a moderate Republican senator from Maine once thought to be a possible backer of Hagel's nomination, said Wednesday she'll oppose his confirmation. Hagel's views on the most critical threats facing the United States are "unsettling," she said in a four-page statement.

Collins said Hagel was unwilling to ask the European Union to designate Hezbollah a terrorist organization in 2006, and he has been hesitant to back the use of all nonmilitary options, such as unilateral sanctions, to pressure Iran into ceasing its nuclear program.

But Collins, who serves on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said she would not join in a filibuster to block a final vote.

In a statement, Collins said that Hagel's "courageous military service deserves our praise and gratitude" and that he cares deeply about the welfare of the troops. But she said she could not get past what she described as Hagel's troubling record on key national security issues. Confirming him as defense secretary would send the wrong message to the country's allies and adversaries about the resolve of the United States, Collins said.

"I am unable to support Senator Hagel to be the next secretary of defense because I do not believe his past positions, votes and statements match the challenges of our time, and his presentations at his (confirmation) hearing did nothing to ease my doubts," Collins said. "I regret having to reach that conclusion given our personal relationship and my admiration for Senator Hagel's military service. But I have concluded that he is not well-suited for the tremendous challenges our country faces during this dangerous era in our history."

SicEmBaylor
2/14/2013, 01:10 PM
I seriously question Hagel's nomination after he was clearly unprepared during his confirmation hearing; however, I have absolutely no problem with Hagel on ideological grounds. If he had done his homework for his confirmation hearing then there is no question he would be an excellent choice.

okie52
2/14/2013, 01:28 PM
Hagel is a grandstander and a flip flopper. He voted for the war in Iraq which many of us with the advantage of hindsight would question. That's not the issue for me concerning Hagel. His extreme condemnation of the surge prior to its implementation and failure to admit it that it was a successful military strategy AFTER IT WAS SUCCESSFUL shows his inability to learn from his own mistakes. The "worst foreign policy mistake in the history of our country" statement by Hagel should cause anyone to view his appointment with disdain. I would say "anyone" except his potential new boss was against the surge even after it worked so they could be a good match.

Where was Hagel's outrage over Obama's intervention in Libya?

rock on sooner
2/14/2013, 01:30 PM
I believe that the prez should have the advisors/Cabinet members
that he wants and is comfortable with. However, I watched some
of the confirmation hearing and am fairly certain that Hagel is not
qualified. While his military gruntwork is admirable, one would think
he'd do his own due diligence and be prepared for what was widely
publicized as a 'we're coming after you' hearing. He wasn't even a
good Pub Senator, imo, and I think Obama should rethink this pick.

Curly Bill
2/14/2013, 01:35 PM
I don't know that he's not patriotic, or that he's a flip-flopper, I think it's more basic than that - he's just an outright dumas!

The fact that some state elected him to serve two terms as a US Senator is sad.

okie52
2/14/2013, 01:37 PM
I believe that the prez should have the advisors/Cabinet members
that he wants and is comfortable with. However, I watched some
of the confirmation hearing and am fairly certain that Hagel is not
qualified. While his military gruntwork is admirable, one would think
he'd do his own due diligence and be prepared for what was widely
publicized as a 'we're coming after you' hearing. He wasn't even a
good Pub Senator, imo, and I think Obama should rethink this pick.

I think Hagel was a strategic pick by Obama. If Hagel was successful then Obama could point out that he was using the best and the brightest regardless of party. If Hagel fails Obama can state that he tried to use a Republican in the spirit of being "bipartisan" but the pub let him down.

I don't think Hagel was a good pub senator either.

C&CDean
2/14/2013, 01:42 PM
Who? Why the hell does anyone care or keep up with this **** anymore? I mean I can understand Sicem cause this is his life - which means he doesn't have one, but normal folks keeping up with this? Weird.

okie52
2/14/2013, 02:00 PM
Who? Why the hell does anyone care or keep up with this **** anymore? I mean I can understand Sicem cause this is his life - which means he doesn't have one, but normal folks keeping up with this? Weird.

Heh...then I better find me some other distraction.

SicEmBaylor
2/14/2013, 02:06 PM
Heh...then I better find me some other distraction.

I would go with women if that were an option for me. I say get out while you can and get you some.

okie52
2/14/2013, 02:12 PM
I would go with women if that were an option for me. I say get out while you can and get you some.

Being married has pretty much shut down that area of distraction. I am building radio control planes so I can hang out with other geeks...maybe that will be enough.