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okie52
2/14/2013, 09:44 AM
First Senate hearing on immigration features calls for action, but also tensions and dissent


02-13-2013 07:35 PM CST |By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (Associated Press) --
Lawmakers who are shaping the fate of the millions of people in the U.S. illegally were told by one Wednesday that it's time to rewrite immigration laws so that they, too, can live the American dream.

"What do you want to do with me?" an emotional Jose Antonio Vargas demanded of senators. "How do you define American?"

The first Senate hearing on immigration policy this year pointed toward an emerging bipartisan consensus that the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants should be offered a path to citizenship. But passionate divisions over the issue also surfaced as one Republican decried amnesty and shouting protesters interrupted the proceedings.

"You really mean that we're not going to have enforcement, but we've got to have amnesty first," Sen. Jeff Sessions, a top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, confronted the panel's chairman, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.

Leahy and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano rejected the argument that border security must be the focus before a comprehensive immigration package or any pathway to legalization can be done.

"Too often the border security refrain simply serves as an excuse," Napolitano said. "Our borders have in fact never been stronger."

An immigration overhaul is a priority for President Barack Obama and lawmakers after a brutal election in which voters again elected a divided government. Democrats control the White House and the Senate, while Republicans hold the House majority.

But for all of the division and polarization in Washington, the hearing produced evidence of bipartisan agreement to fix what all agree is a broken system _ and finally dispense with a wrenching issue that has bedeviled lawmakers for years.

Vargas' testimony produced a striking moment in which one of the 11 million illegal immigrants at the center of the debate confronted the elected officials reconsidering the law.

A former journalist who acknowledged his illegal status in a high-profile piece in The New York Times Magazine in June 2011, Vargas recalled his journey to the U.S. from the Philippines in 1993. He told lawmakers that he never knew he was here illegally until he applied for a drivers' permit, and that he lived for years in fear until he decided to go public and start an advocacy group. He has so far avoided deportation.

"Too often, we're treated as abstractions, faceless and nameless, mere subjects of debate rather than individuals with families, hopes, fears, and dreams," Vargas told committee members. "We dream of a path to citizenship so we can actively participate in our American democracy." Democrats on the panel offered praise and encouragement. Republicans had little response.

For Vargas and others in his position the deliberations offered some encouraging signs mixed with unmistakable notes of caution.

Leahy declared in opening the hearing, "In my view it is time to pass a good bill, a fair bill, a comprehensive bill ... Too many have been waiting too long for fairness."

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said the focus must be border security. "I do not believe the border is secure and I still believe we have a long, long way to go," he said.

Protesters interrupted the hearing several times, with some shouting and waving banners against deportations, which have increased markedly under the Obama administration despite its push to find a political accommodation for many who have been living in the U.S. Later people in another group stood and silently turned their backs to the dais where the senators sat. They wore signs on their backs reading "human rights" and "immigrant rights." Leahy chided them for interrupting proceedings.

Obama says he is determined to finally make good on his promise to the Latino community to sign into law a comprehensive immigration bill with border security, employer enforcement, improvements to legal immigration and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already here. Meanwhile, a bipartisan group of eight senators has been meeting to develop a bill by next month that accomplishes eventual citizenship for illegal immigrants while also containing enough border security and enforcement measures to gain conservative support.

The four Democrats in the Senate negotiating group met with Obama at the White House on Wednesday, telling him they were confident a bipartisan bill could be agreed to "in the coming weeks," a senior Democrat said later, speaking on condition of anonymity because the meeting was private. A White House statement said Obama reiterated his intention to offer legislation of his own if Congress fails to act, and told senators that continuing to strengthen the border should not be mutually exclusive from a pathway to citizenship.

The Senate bipartisan plan makes a pathway to citizenship conditional on border security first, something on which Republicans have insisted. Obama's immigration proposals don't make that linkage, and it's emerging as a point of contention.

The bipartisan Senate negotiators are operating separately from the Senate Judiciary Committee, but the committee would probably vote on any legislation they produce. First, numerous thorny issues would have to be solved. Questions Wednesday touched on how to define border security, how to structure a future worker program, how to ensure employers can and will verify the legal status of their workers, and how to craft a path to citizenship that would not advantage illegal immigrants over those attempting the process legally.

The action comes in a rapidly shifting political environment. Polls find more Americans support eventual citizenship for illegal immigrants and many Republican leaders are coming around to the same view after their party's dismal showing among Latino voters in the November elections.

But, as the hearing made clear, deep divisions exist within the GOP that could threaten any legislation in the Senate, where Republicans hold enough votes to stall legislation, or in the House, where majority Republicans are waiting to see what the Senate does before taking any action.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., a Judiciary Committee member who is part of the bipartisan "Gang of Eight" working on an immigration bill, drew out Napolitano about the urgency of quick action on immigration legislation.

"Have you ever seen a better opportunity than the moment that exists today to pass comprehensive immigration reform?" Graham asked.

"No, this is the moment," Napolitano replied.

"Do you agree with me that the pay-offs for the nation are enormous?" Graham asked, citing improving the economy and national security.

"I couldn't say it better than you just did," Napolitano said.

But not long after, Sessions made clear that those who think the time is ripe for will face determined opposition.

"There's a lot of overconfidence about this bill," Sessions said. "If it doesn't really work it's not going to pass, we're going to expose it."

That border security promise worked out so well when Reagan gave 3,000,000 illegals amnesty in 1987 and now the dems want to do it all over again. Brilliant!!!!

okie52
2/14/2013, 10:07 AM
As Napolitano was stating border security has never been better:

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FaninAma
2/14/2013, 10:11 AM
In 20 years they will be having hearings in Congress on whether to give the 40 million amnesty that have entered this country illegally since the last amnesty program was enacted. In 40 years Congress will be deciding whether to secede California and other parts of the southwestern USA back to Mexico since the vast majority of the people living there are Mexican citizens or their descendants.

olevetonahill
2/14/2013, 10:16 AM
Simple fix fer this ****.

Lets Take the Rules fer Immigrants That Mexico, Panama, Honduras, Canada. Hell every other country in North and South America and Use THEM as a Model.
If the Illegals Dont like it **** em.

Tiptonsooner
2/14/2013, 10:32 AM
^^^^^^
How will these politicians retain their elected positions then?

okie52
2/14/2013, 10:34 AM
Mexico's president was here a few years ago blasting the AZ law on illegals to the standing ovation of congressional dems...even though his country would have deported illegals the next day.

okie52
2/14/2013, 10:35 AM
^^^^^^
How will these politicians retain their elected positions then?

mexicans/hispanics aren't the majority.

okie52
2/14/2013, 10:54 AM
Democrats Say Citizenship Shouldn't Be Tied to Border Security

By David Harrison
Roll Call Staff
Feb. 13, 2013, 2:13 p.m.
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Senate Democrats and a top Obama administration official sought Wednesday to decouple border security from a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants, a centerpiece of the principles laid out last month by a bipartisan Senate working group.
“There are still some stuck in the past who are repeating the demands of ‘enforcement first,’ ” Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vt., said at a committee hearing on immigration. “I fear they mean ‘enforcement only.’ To them I say that this has stalled immigration reform for too long.”
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano agreed.
“Too often, the ‘border security first’ refrain simply serves as an excuse for failing to address the underlying problem,” she said. “It also ignores the significant progress and efforts we have undertaken over the last four years.”
Napolitano also endorsed a tough employment verification system to reduce the incentive for immigrants to arrive illegally.
“If we have extra money to invest in immigration enforcement, is it better spend on more border patrol agents or is it better spent investing in a worker verification program that really looks at the demand side of this issue?” she asked.
Those positions could conflict with the Senate working group’s efforts. In its proposal, the so-called “gang of eight” laid out a plan in which the path to citizenship would only open up once a commission consisting of border state officials certifies that the border is secure.
But Democrats have since described the commission as more of a formality, saying it would not hold up the process of granting citizenship to undocumented people.
Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a member of the bipartisan group, also said he did not want the issue of border security to derail the whole measure.
“I do want to get immigration through,” Flake said. “I don’t want any of the elements that we need to finish to hold up any of the other elements.”
Leahy said he plans to mark up an immigration bill in the committee within the next few months and move it onto the floor, warning that “our window of opportunity will not stay open long.” President Barack Obama has praised the Senate group’s work, while also making clear that he would put his own plan forward if lawmakers fail to reach a consensus.
Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., a member of the bipartisan group, said the talks have been productive and that the members are committed to sticking to their timeline of releasing a bill next month.
“We know we can’t take forever to get this done and we’re on track,” Schumer said. “Both sides know they have to give and they are.”
A similar bipartisan group in the House is also working on a proposal but could face more roadblocks. Many House Republicans have said they would not support granting citizenship, a precondition for Democrats. That could imperil the negotiations in that chamber.
Senate Republicans were more upbeat at Wednesday’s hearing but emphasized that enhanced border security would have to be part of any overhaul in order to garner their support. The last time Congress approved a major immigration overhaul, in 1986, the border security and employment verification provisions were never properly enforced, they said..

okie52
2/14/2013, 01:56 PM
'Stop the Deportations': Protesters Call for Immigrant Rights at Senate Hearing
Immigrants to Obama Administration: 'You are destroying our communities'

- Jacob Chamberlain, staff writer
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was interrupted at today's Senate Immigration Hearing as she boasted that U.S. borders have “never been stronger.” The protesters who interrupted the hearing on multiple occasions demanded that the administration cut deportations and focus on the human rights of undocumented immigrants.


The Obama administration deported a record 409,000 undocumented immigrants last year, according to Napolitano. The administration has deported roughly 1.6 million people in the past four years.

At the hearing GOP Sens. Jeff Sessions (Ala.) and John Cornyn (Texas) argued with Napolitano saying that while border security has improved in recent years, the Obama administration has not deported enough or kept enough immigrants out.

The hearing contained a wide variety of speakers, many of who called for immigration reform, but most fell short of criticizing the volume of deportations under Obama's past and future policies.

Protesters interrupted the hearing several times, chanting and waving banners against deportations. Interrupting Napolitano, one protester yelled, "you are destroying our communities" as others began to chant, "Stop the deportations."

At one point a group stood and silently turned their backs to the senators, with signs on their backs reading “human rights” and “immigrant rights.”

Among other testimonies at the hearing, however, was Jose Antonio Vargas, a journalist who acknowledged his undocumented status in a high-profile piece in The New York Times Magazine in June 2011. Vargas argued vehemently for stronger immigrant rights, asking the senators, “What do you want to do with me?” and “How do you define American?”

“Too often, we’re treated as abstractions, faceless and nameless, mere subjects of debate rather than individuals with families, hopes, fears, and dreams,” Vargas told committee members. “We dream of a path to citizenship so we can actively participate in our American democracy.”

He added:

[Immigrants] dream of not being separated from our families and our loved ones, regardless of sexual orientation, no matter our skill set. [...]

This government has deported more than 1.6 million people, fathers and mothers, sons and daughters in the past four years. [...]

We talk about immigration and enforcement as if we’re talking about alien people from Mars and not people whose lives and families are being torn apart everyday.

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