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FaninAma
1/26/2013, 01:26 PM
http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-hacks-us-sentencing-commission-distributes-files-7000010369/

I say more power to them. I would like to see some of the personal files of our elected leaders and appointed SCOTUS justices.

Midtowner
1/26/2013, 01:31 PM
Interesting.

I predict arrests and long prison sentences for many involved. The trouble with that policy is that the gov't can lock these folks up and for every one they catch there are thousands they won't. There is a battle going on for the soul of our internet and it's one which will be very important going forward.

The freedom to disseminate information and the extent of government privacy and many of the government's overreaching policies with regard to information privacy are kind of a big deal.

SoonerInFortSmith
1/26/2013, 01:39 PM
Sounds like propaganda to me.

yermom
1/26/2013, 01:39 PM
Interesting.

I predict arrests and long prison sentences for many involved. The trouble with that policy is that the gov't can lock these folks up and for every one they catch there are thousands they won't. There is a battle going on for the soul of our internet and it's one which will be very important going forward.

The freedom to disseminate information and the extent of government privacy and many of the government's overreaching policies with regard to information privacy are kind of a big deal.

well, until the government decides to take their ball and go home

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20029302-501465.html

Midtowner
1/26/2013, 01:47 PM
Iran needs an internet kill switch to oppress their people. Unless the government's aim here is oppression against widespread dissent, a kill switch isn't necessary.

And last I checked, we had a First Amendment and internet speech is still protected speech.

This is a disturbing development.

FaninAma
1/26/2013, 01:51 PM
Do you see the trend anddirection this is all headed? Obama and the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans on civil liberty issues.....probably worse. At least the Republicans have a libertarian element in their party. Obama is a 2-faced little beyotch. Out of one face he spouts off about his support for increasing and maintaining huge entitlement progrmas. Out of the other he is attacking civil liberties with a ferocity equal to or exceeding that of the Bush/Cheney tenure.

And this, IMO, is planned. The more people the Dems/socialists are able to get dependent on their handouts the fewer that will oppose their policies designed to destroy civil liberties. Obama has done nothing to reverse Bush's Patriot Act civil liberties assault. If anything he has expanded the state's powers in this area. Now, the Fed with the cooperation of Obama's treasury department and FDIC enforcement wing have broadly expanded the role of the federal government into the life blood of our economy. And as yermom pointed out, the last bastion of freedom of speech and sharing of uncensored information has been under attack by this administration for a long time.

Here's a challenge for you Obama supporters: Name something he has done in his first term that has actually strengthened and broadened civil liberties in this country. Increasing federal entitlements does not equate to increased civil liberties.

FaninAma
1/26/2013, 01:54 PM
Iran needs an internet kill switch to oppress their people. Unless the government's aim here is oppression against widespread dissent, a kill switch isn't necessary.

And last I checked, we had a First Amendment and internet speech is still protected speech.

This is a disturbing development.
Then do us all a favor and at least observe which politicians are pushing this and keep it in mind when you decide who to support.

yermom
1/26/2013, 01:57 PM
that has been my complaint about Obama all along

problem is that Romney was already talking about going after pr0n on the internet. i doubt a free internet is on his mind either.

FaninAma
1/26/2013, 02:14 PM
that has been my complaint about Obama all along

problem is that Romney was already talking about going after pr0n on the internet. i doubt a free internet is on his mind either.

So, am I hearing you right that you, like sic'em and me, were Ron Paul supporters?

yermom
1/26/2013, 02:52 PM
he's a little out there, but i've agreed with a lot of things he said. honestly, i think i would have voted Ron Paul over Obama

not that i bothered to vote for Obama in the first place

rock on sooner
1/26/2013, 03:03 PM
he's a little out there, but i've agreed with a lot of things he said. honestly, i think i would have voted Ron Paul over Obama

not that i bothered to vote for Obama in the first place

Didja vote for Romney?

yermom
1/26/2013, 03:05 PM
i chose not to participate, but it's not like Romney wasn't going to win my state anyway

Midtowner
1/26/2013, 10:25 PM
Then do us all a favor and at least observe which politicians are pushing this and keep it in mind when you decide who to support.

Unfortunately, it's bipartisan and not one powerful politician is in favor of internet liberty. We have jackwads like Orrin Hatch who thought the internet was some sort of collection of pneumatic tubes making serious public policy decisions. It's a scary state of affairs. I generally support the party which the most protective of our civil liberties and on the whole, the 'pubs ain't it. They're big on the 2nd Amendment and just about nothing else.

SicEmBaylor
1/26/2013, 10:26 PM
http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-hacks-us-sentencing-commission-distributes-files-7000010369/

I say more power to them. I would like to see some of the personal files of our elected leaders and appointed SCOTUS justices.
Agreed. I also support the efforts of wikileaks.

Tulsa_Fireman
1/27/2013, 02:14 AM
Take a lead from the germans.

Vote Pirate.

TitoMorelli
1/27/2013, 03:47 PM
The Sentencing Commission hacking came in the aftermath of the suicide of Aaron Swartz, who had been told he was facing up to 30 years in prison. Apparently the documents he downloaded weren't even classified or restricted-access. DA out to make a name for herself threatened him with the harshest possible penalties, and he couldn't handle it.

FaninAma
1/27/2013, 04:10 PM
The Sentencing Commission hacking came in the aftermath of the suicide of Aaron Swartz, who had been told he was facing up to 30 years in prison. Apparently the documents he downloaded weren't even classified or restricted-access. DA out to make a name for herself threatened him with the harshest possible penalties, and he couldn't handle it.
Just to be clear the local DA had decided to not press for jail time and was going to give him a deferred sentence with a clean record if he stayed clear of trouble. It was the federal DoJ prosecutor that stepped in and was looking to makle an example out of Swartz. Also MIT who owned the pilfered files wasn't pressing charges.

nutinbutdust
1/27/2013, 05:59 PM
I am still waiting to see a redacted version of the document they threatened to release.