Baylor can suck it!

[Ruf/Nek7]

My wife and I decided to go to this Saturday's game against Baylor, in Waco. (Women's bball) My buddy, whom is an OU alumn, recently got a job working for Baylor's Sports Information department and got us free tickets. The catch??? According to his boss, if we take the tickets we are not allowed to wear OU attire. We can cheer for them, but cannot wear anything OU.

Now my dilemma is this, do i take this lightly and wear OU and run the risk of getting my buddy in trouble with his new job, or do i follow the rule and subject myself to the lack of freedom?

I would say screw it all together but I am receiving these tickets for free and they are really great seats.

Long story short, Baylor sucks *** and is attempting to ruin my weekend.

[picasso]

They have an almost Aggy inferiority complex when it comes to OU. We had dinner with relatives in Houston a few years ago and my cousin who is a Baylor grad started going off about OU and cheating in the past. My wife cut her off and told her to step back! It was sweet.

[Midtowner]

Unlike public schools, Baylor can limit your speech and attire choices on their campus.

If you're there on their dime, I'd say you respect the rules.

[badger]

I was just going to do a HATE BAYLOR post, but I like the idea of hating baylor in a separate thread...

Speaking of, HATE GREEN!
http://i51.tinypic.com/2wce33s.jpg

And now, Soonerpsycho's masterful masterpieces of previous attempts at hating Baylor:
http://soonerpsycho.com/spfarksandpics/oregontrailhuntingbaylor.gif
http://soonerpsycho.com/spfarksandpics/mulkeygrineralien.gif
http://soonerpsycho.com/spfarksandpics/kingkongbriner.gif
http://soonerpsycho.com/spfarksandpics/mulkeyhulk.gif

PS: KU can suck it too... as can whoever scheduled OU's teams to go up against both #1s (remember that previous No. 1 Duke got embarrassed last night, so KU is as good as first now) in the same weekend. As Gordon Ramsey would say, "oh **** me"

[tycat947]

My wife and I decided to go to this Saturday's game against Baylor, in Waco. (Women's bball) My buddy, whom is an OU alumn, recently got a job working for Baylor's Sports Information department and got us free tickets. The catch??? According to his boss, if we take the tickets we are not allowed to wear OU attire. We can cheer for them, but cannot wear anything OU.

Now my dilemma is this, do i take this lightly and wear OU and run the risk of getting my buddy in trouble with his new job, or do i follow the rule and subject myself to the lack of freedom?

I would say screw it all together but I am receiving these tickets for free and they are really great seats.

Long story short, Baylor sucks *** and is attempting to ruin my weekend.

Me personally, I wouldn't set foot on that hypocritical campus! That's a bunch of BS, IMO! To tell someone, sure, you can have the tickets but you can't wear your school colors/attire? How about having green t-shirts made that say "HYPOCRITE U"? That would be more fitting anyway!

Good luck to whatever you decide!

[tycat947]

Unlike public schools, Baylor can limit your speech and attire choices on their campus.


This is EXACTLY why they shouldn't be in the Big 12, nor TCU!

[badger]

PS: I recommend getting one of those rolling "BOOMER SOONER" signs that they give students during football games. It doubles as a BOO sign when Skeletor or the refs go crazy.

Also, I agree that you are brave to go to the game in Waco. They are so crazy about their d@mn womens team that they were saying mean things about me. Silly BF.com :P

[Ruf/Nek7]

PS: I recommend getting one of those rolling "BOOMER SOONER" signs that they give students during football games. It doubles as a BOO sign when Skeletor or the refs go crazy.

Also, I agree that you are brave to go to the game in Waco. They are so crazy about their d@mn womens team that they were saying mean things about me. Silly BF.com :P

I have several of those so I think i will most definitely be doing that. The only rule covered attire. There is my loophole. I have been to a lot of football games in Waco and never experienced any issue but I could imagine this one being a whole other world.

[badger]

I have several of those so I think i will most definitely be doing that. The only rule covered attire. There is my loophole. I have been to a lot of football games in Waco and never experienced any issue but I could imagine this one being a whole other world.

I will be looking for you. Make us proud! :)

[8timechamps]

Don't wear OU stuff. Not out of respect for Baylor, but out of respect for your buddy. However, you should cheer your *** off for the Sooners.

[Soonerjeepman]

hell, wear green AND cheer your *** off for OU..EVERY FRICKIN TIME!!!! that would be classic

[SicEmBaylor]

My wife and I decided to go to this Saturday's game against Baylor, in Waco. (Women's bball) My buddy, whom is an OU alumn, recently got a job working for Baylor's Sports Information department and got us free tickets. The catch??? According to his boss, if we take the tickets we are not allowed to wear OU attire. We can cheer for them, but cannot wear anything OU.

Now my dilemma is this, do i take this lightly and wear OU and run the risk of getting my buddy in trouble with his new job, or do i follow the rule and subject myself to the lack of freedom?

I would say screw it all together but I am receiving these tickets for free and they are really great seats.

Long story short, Baylor sucks *** and is attempting to ruin my weekend.

Hahahahhaa. Fling your green and gold afar with pride, my friend and start learning the words to our awesome alma mater. Word of warning...ours is more than two words long.

[SicEmBaylor]

I will be looking for you. Make us proud! :)

I hope he does because God knows that'll be the only thing at the FC making anyone from OU proud.

[Ruf/Nek7]

I hope he does because God knows that'll be the only thing at the FC making anyone from OU proud.

Baylor fans will be like "What? An OU fan with all of his teeth?" And they cannot accuse me of buying my OU shirt from Wal-Mart as the Baptist have clearly banned OU attire...right up there with dancing and pre-marital fornication.

[Chuck Bao]

I was supposed to drive my mom to the game, but she backed out earlier this week due to fears of a sell-out stadium cheering a blow-out win over her beloved team. Oh my, how the shoe is now on the other foot.

I've never been to a basketball game at the Ferrell Center. When I was a student, Baylor basketball was played at the Heart of Texas Coliseum (yeah, HOT). I think I'll drive down by myself to see the Baylor men play OU on Wednesday. It should be a little more competitive. heh!

Ruf/Nek7, I don't think how you accessorize your fan support should matter much, just as long as you aren't obnoxious about it. Generally speaking Baylor fans respect other fans who show up to support college athletes. We have a long storied tradition of that, just showing up for the team and school spirit thingy. Meanwhile, Brittney Griner could set some milestone records during the game and could cause some fanfare, such as Big XII scoring and NCAA blocked shots.

But let me be clear on one thing. You will get some brickbats thrown your wayt if you in any way suggest that a successful female student athlete is actually a man or imply that height or athleticism in any way diminishes a woman from being female.

[MsProudSooner]

Since you can't wear OU attire, wear a Crimson shirt that doesn't have an OU logo on it. Or, better yet, wear a Texas A&M shirt. It's debatable who they hate more, us or aTm.

[MsProudSooner]

Generally speaking Baylor fans respect other fans who show up to support college athletes. We have a long storied tradition of that, just showing up for the team and school spirit thingy. Meanwhile, Brittney Griner could set some milestone records during the game and could cause some fanfare, such as Big XII scoring and NCAA blocked shots.

But let me be clear on one thing. You will get some brickbats thrown your wayt if you in any way suggest that a successful female student athlete is actually a man or imply that height or athleticism in any way diminishes a woman from being female.

I guess that 'long and storied tradition' doesn't include respect for players on other teams. According to many people who travel to away games, no one treated Courtney Paris worse than the Baylor fans.

No need for opponents fans to make any suggestions about any Baylor athletes. The Big XII Tournament promo film speaks for itself.

[C&CDean]

Bri used to wear a green OU hat to the tailgates. I think they sell them at the Campus Corner joints.

On a sidenote, how many years has that freaky broad been playing down there? She really needs to leave school and go to the NBA.

[FaninAma]

Wear Baylor attire and cheer your *** off for OU. That will freak out and confuse the Baylor fans off around you. LOL.

[tycat947]

The Big XII Tournament promo film speaks for itself.

Priceless!!!

[badger]

The Big XII Tournament promo film speaks for itself.

They're going to show that 50 times during Saturday's game aren't they :(:(:(:(

[SicEmBaylor]

Since you can't wear OU attire, wear a Crimson shirt that doesn't have an OU logo on it. Or, better yet, wear a Texas A&M shirt. It's debatable who they hate more, us or aTm.

The only way that question is debatable is if we're speaking purely in terms of WBB. If we're talking in general then it isn't the least bit debatable in any shape, form, or fashion.

[SicEmBaylor]

I guess that 'long and storied tradition' doesn't include respect for players on other teams. According to many people who travel to away games, no one treated Courtney Paris worse than the Baylor fans.

No need for opponents fans to make any suggestions about any Baylor athletes. The Big XII Tournament promo film speaks for itself.
Any so-called "mistreatment" of Courtney Paris by our fans pales in comparison to the treatment of BG by every other fan base I assure you.

[8timechamps]

Out of respect for our resident Baylor fans/alums, I will cease any/all comments about Brittany Griener's sexual make-up. I will, however, say that I'm with Dean and her departure can't come soon enough. Seriously, it's seems like she's been at Baylor for 6 years.

[Chuck Bao]

I guess that 'long and storied tradition' doesn't include respect for players on other teams. According to many people who travel to away games, no one treated Courtney Paris worse than the Baylor fans.

No need for opponents fans to make any suggestions about any Baylor athletes. The Big XII Tournament promo film speaks for itself.

Sad to hear that about Baylor fans: it would embarrass me. I wonder what would motivate someone to attend a college women's basketball game and then make fun of the tall or big women.

I guess that there are always a few "bad apple" fans who try to ruin it for everyone. I thought that Baylor fans showed a bit of class last season when they gave a standing ovation to Tennessee's Coach Pat Summitt and then to UConn's Coach Geno Auriemma for their contributions to the sport.

[badger]

Proud of our tean's effort. Baylor did want everyone expected them to do. Glad we could pizz em all off a little on their home court along the way.

So, that means that the ou men get to upset ku at phog i guess :)

[Soonerjeepman]

once the woMAN is gone, they'll drop back...griner is a once in a lifetime player.

FWIW, I enjoy woman's bball, my sis played at ksu and wsu and I've coached HS.

[tycat947]

Proud of our tean's effort. Baylor did want everyone expected them to do. Glad we could pizz em all off a little on their home court along the way.

So, that means that the ou men get to upset ku at phog i guess :)

Yeah, and we got to witness Griner's SECOND FOUL OUT, and most likely the last, of her career!!!

[picasso]

Hahahahhaa. Fling your green and gold afar with pride, my friend and start learning the words to our awesome alma mater. Word of warning...ours is more than two words long.
I've never understood this. Who gives a **** if you're school song is longer than the Gettysburg Address?
Seriously. Wow, good smack.

[SicEmBaylor]

once the woMAN is gone, they'll drop back...griner is a once in a lifetime player.

FWIW, I enjoy woman's bball, my sis played at ksu and wsu and I've coached HS.
Drop back to what, precisely?

This is Mulkey's record at Baylor BEFORE Griner ever stepped foot on campus

2000–2001 Baylor 21–9 9–9 6th NCAA First Round
2001–2002 Baylor 27–6 12–4 2nd NCAA Second Round
2002–2003 Baylor 24–11 8–8 7th WNIT Runner-up
2003–2004 Baylor 26–9 10–6 T–4th NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2004–2005 Baylor 33–3 14–2 1st NCAA Champions
2005–2006 Baylor 26–7 12–4 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2006–2007 Baylor 26–8 11–5 3rd NCAA Second Round
2007–2008 Baylor 25–7 12–4 2nd NCAA Second Round
2008–2009 Baylor 29–6 12–4 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen

So uh...yeah....

Her win % is .811

So, please, tell me more about how far we're going to "regress.

[badger]

He meant it so much that he double posted it... in two different threads.

Maybe if baylor wins the nat'l title in womens bball again, the next round of conference reallignment will include you! Then again, uconn is still stuck in the big east, so i can say without a shadow of a doubt, baylor is SOL.

[SicEmBaylor]

He meant it so much that he double posted it... in two different threads.

Maybe if baylor wins the nat'l title in womens bball again, the next round of conference reallignment will include you! Then again, uconn is still stuck in the big east, so i can say without a shadow of a doubt, baylor is SOL.
The last one didn't include us? My bad, I forgot we were playing in the WAC now... :stupid:

[badger]

My my, someone's cranky after both of his teams won today!

If u are where u were before, that hardly counts. Was wisconsin realligned? Was bammer?

Anyways, i will save this topic for the next time u guys beat us by 30 at your house since u hate it so much... oh wait baylor couldn't even manage to do that. Hahahahahahaha. Man baylor SUCKS compaared to last season! Not even undefeated. Probably wont even win another national title. Poor baylor. I'm sorry that i upset u during this difficult, difficult time. Chin up! Baylor will be good again someday!

[SicEmBaylor]

My my, someone's cranky after both of his teams won today!

If u are where u were before, that hardly counts. Was wisconsin realligned? Was bammer?

Anyways, i will save this topic for the next time u guys beat us by 30 at your house since u hate it so much... oh wait baylor couldn't even manage to do that. Hahahahahahaha. Man baylor SUCKS compaared to last season! Not even undefeated. Probably wont even win another national title. Poor baylor. I'm sorry that i upset u during this difficult, difficult time. Chin up! Baylor will be good again someday!

I see you've claimed your moral victory for the day. ;)

[badger]

I think ann richards is the only reason baylor is in the big 12 :D

[tycat947]

I think ann richards is the only reason baylor is in the big 12 :D

Ann denied that ever happened and I believe her. I think it was Bob Bullock who was the guilty party that stuck the Big 12 with Hypocrite U!!!

[SicEmBaylor]

Ann denied that ever happened and I believe her. I think it was Bob Bullock who was the guilty party that stuck the Big 12 with Hypocrite U!!!
So what Baylor guy f'd your girlfriend in your own bed?

[Curly Bill]

So what Baylor guy f'd your girlfriend in your own bed?

Griner maybe?

[NMSooner'80]

My folks have been OU women's basketball season ticket-holders for about 11 years now. They experienced the BU fans in Dallas one year and said they were disgusting. And that was a tournament that OU won.

It's pretty telling that they would root for UConn, Stanford or Notre Dame if they played Baylor under Skeletor. And they used to not like it that my brother and I rooted against OSU when we were kids, because they originally believed in in-state loyalty(and to a lesser extent conference loyalty). Plus, they also dislike Geno and Stanford's coach quite a bit, so that should say a lot about what they've seen of Skeletor and her merry band of spoiled brats in the last several years.

[SicEmBaylor]

Griner maybe?
Hhahaha. Well played.

[FaninAma]

Here is my guess about what happened with Griner. She was born with ambiguous genatalia but was genetically XY and in cooperation with the genetic specialists her parents decided to assign her sex as female. I further think that the parents, with or without medical advice,did not follow the medical regimen well because once the sex assignment is decided on female the patient receives hormone suplement therapy meaning administration of estrogen. When given in therapeutic doses at the appropriate pre-pubertal and dpubertal growth spurts it not only gives females their secondary sexual characteristics but it also closes the patient's epiphyseal growth plates. That's why most women finsih their growth spurts earlier and on average are shorter than the average male of corresponding chronologic age.

Griner's lack of secondary female sexual characteristics as well as her extreme height seem to indicate she did not get a physiologic dose of estrogen at critical times. That is my medical WAG.

Having said that, nothing of the above that transpired was under her control. The decisions were made for her. She should be allowed to play in women's basketball including the Oliympics. If there is any criticism it should be reserved for the medical staff and whoever decided to alter her medical regimen if in fact that was done.

[tycat947]

Here is my guess about what happened with Griner. She was born with ambiguous genatalia but was genetically XY and in cooperation with the genetic specialists her parents decided to assign her sex as female. I further think that the parents, with or without medical advice,did not follow the medical regimen well because once the sex assignment is decided on female the patient receives hormone suplement therapy meaning administration of estrogen. When given in therapeutic doses at the appropriate pre-pubertal and dpubertal growth spurts it not only gives females their secondary sexual characteristics but it also closes the patient's epiphyseal growth plates. That's why most women finsih their growth spurts earlier and on average are shorter than the average male of corresponding chronologic age.

Griner's lack of secondary female sexual characteristics as well as her extreme height seem to indicate she did not get a physiologic dose of estrogen at critical times. That is my medical WAG.

Having said that, nothing of the above that transpired was under her control. The decisions were made for her. She should be allowed to play in women's basketball including the Oliympics. If there is any criticism it should be reserved for the medical staff and whoever decided to alter her medical regimen if in fact that was done.

Exactly!

[SicEmBaylor]

With all due respect, this is nonsense and should not even be discussed. There is absolutely nothing physiologically wrong with Griner. If you look at pictures of Griner growing up, she looks like an entirely and perfectly normal young girl. There isn't a thing about her that is the least bit masculine. It wasn't until she hit puberty and her teenage years that she started developing so much more than those around her.

I'm sure there are a lot of factors for why that happened, but I'm also sure none of those factors involve her having once been a boy or her being a hermaphrodite. She's a young woman...a college kid just trying to use her skills in the best way she can. I can't imagine what impact this kind of talk has upon her personally, but I'm sure she's a stronger person than I would be under the circumstances.

[FaninAma]

Sic'em, if she ever plays in the Olympics I will buy your story. The Asians, especially the Chinese, will insist on testing because they would love to embarrass the US. Until then......

i think she should be allowed to play but there is no way Brittany is an XX female. BTW, puberty is when a person's genetics exert their influence bringing about the changes that give all of us our masculine or feminine looks depending on that 23rd chromosome. Most kids are pretty adrogenous before then and little boys can be made to look like girls by allowing their hair to grow and dressing them like girls.

The reason this issue is being discussed is because she is the most dominant player in women's college basketball history. The attention she is drawing is to be expected.

There are probably other genotypically male but phenotypically female individuals playing women's college basketball but none of them are 6'8" or have the skill sets Griner has.

[SicEmBaylor]

Well ****, I'm 5'4" and weight 110 lbs. I couldn't lift weights if my life depended on it -- does that mean I was born a chick? Everyone is built differently. I'm sure there are plenty of other women out there built like BG. The difference is that they just haven't developed their physical assets and exploited a particular athletic talent to the extent that BG has.

BG is 100% female always was always has been. Any discussion otherwise is ridiculous.

[Soonerjeepman]

so sic you called me an idiot and questioned my knowledge on women's bball. I'm assuming, which is bad, that you've never played or coached ball, being 5'4 and 110 lbs and can't lift weights. I'm still assuming you are a guy, by your other comment about gender.

Actually IF YOU knew anything about women's bball having 1 player like griner that is the most dominant player in the history of the game you would have understood my comment about bu falling back behind OU after she leaves. The woman's game is totally different than the guys, but I'm sure your vast experience has already told you that.

* gave ya a link to OU's record the same time frame you posted. Ya got the NC, but besides that OU out preformed bu. Enjoy~

[SicEmBaylor]

so sic you called me an idiot and questioned my knowledge on women's bball. I'm assuming, which is bad, that you've never played or coached ball, being 5'4 and 110 lbs and can't lift weights. I'm still assuming you are a guy, by your other comment about gender.

Actually IF YOU knew anything about women's bball having 1 player like griner that is the most dominant player in the history of the game you would have understood my comment about bu falling back behind OU after she leaves. The woman's game is totally different than the guys, but I'm sure your vast experience has already told you that.

* gave ya a link to OU's record the same time frame you posted. Ya got the NC, but besides that OU out preformed bu. Enjoy~
My response to your post had nothing to do with a comparison with OU. You never said "drop back behind OU" in your post...you just made a broad generalization about dropping back as if Baylor WBB was some sort of abysmal program before Griner arrived which, as I showed, is far from the case.

[Soonerjeepman]

My response to your post had nothing to do with a comparison with OU. You never said "drop back behind OU" in your post...you just made a broad generalization about dropping back as if Baylor WBB was some sort of abysmal program before Griner arrived which, as I showed, is far from the case.

umm, yes I did...but ok.

here's the original post, the bold is where I compare to OU

"once the woMAN is gone, griner, they'll drop back below OU. They have a once in a lifetime player...hell St. Mary's would be #1 with her."

Now I will apologize for the comment on griner, I would have loved to have her when I coached, and my sis played D1 and my daughter is 5'11...that was uncalled for.

[OU68]

I don't care that Griner is taller than I am, or much, much more physically talented than I - it's the fact that she has a deeper voice than I do!!
:numbness:

[badger]

I know that anti-Griner comments can be seen as mean and unsportsmanlike, but seriously Baylor, say it:

"Someday OU will have a blocking, dunking dominant center that causes YOU to win all of your games and contend (and win) national titles and YOU will know how it feels to deal with all of the hurtful comments from other fanbases endlessly!"

Oh boo hoo Baylor.

[tycat947]

AND Sulkey Mulkey cheated to get Griner!!!

[Curly Bill]

I love watching women's basketball, but yet I don't like watching Baylor & Griner at all.
Coincidence?

[badger]

I love watching women's basketball, but yet I don't like watching Baylor & Griner at all.
Coincidence?

There's some things in the men's game that shouldn't enter the women's game... and Skeletor and Griner represent it. I'm not talking about any questions in regards to you-know-what, I'm talking about Skeletor's sideline demeanor that has resulting in technicals, refs pointing back to the bench area, and opposing arenas (especially ours) asking her to get off the court while the ball is in play.

In regards to Griner, I'm also talking about this:
X8heo66ZxWA
Griner can't leave Baylor soon enough.

[tycat947]

There's some things in the men's game that shouldn't enter the women's game... and Skeletor and Griner represent it. I'm not talking about any questions in regards to you-know-what, I'm talking about Skeletor's sideline demeanor that has resulting in technicals, refs pointing back to the bench area, and opposing arenas (especially ours) asking her to get off the court while the ball is in play.

In regards to Griner, I'm also talking about this:
X8heo66ZxWA
Griner can't leave Baylor soon enough.

I think Skeletor tries to annoy the officials so much that they will make her calls so they don't have to deal with her!!! Also, she purposefully is engaging the officials so they can't see the muggings going on the court. She has a method to her madness in spite of it being wrong.

Please don't EVER forget this 3 year old childish behavior!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxs1kBYWE8s

[MsProudSooner]

The officials could save themselves a lot of grief if they ran the sidelines on the opposite side of the court from the coaches.

[NMSooner'80]

I think Skeletor tries to annoy the officials so much that they will make her calls so they don't have to deal with her!!! Also, she purposefully is engaging the officials so they can't see the muggings going on the court. She has a method to her madness in spite of it being wrong.

Please don't EVER forget this 3 year old childish behavior!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxs1kBYWE8s


Well, there went lunch! But, the comment below that video was hysterical (referrened to KM as Leatherface Skeletor).