Bracketology

[badger]

Holy sh!t SIX BIDS for the Big 12?!
Link (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)

[badger]

1- seed KU
7-seed KSU
8-seed Baylor
9-seed OU
9-seed OSU
11-seed ISU

[Soonerjeepman]

interesting. I'll hold out til end of season to see if we can make it. I think if we can go 9/9 in the Big 12 that might be good enough. We'll see...

question is, would you rather split with KU/KSU or another top 3 -4 team in the league and lose a game we should win, like TT..TCU...guess it would be a question of the win being worth more than a loss you shouldn't have.

[badger]

question is, would you rather split with KU/KSU or another top 3 -4 team in the league and lose a game we should win, like TT..TCU...guess it would be a question of the win being worth more than a loss you shouldn't have.
Tough question... greedily, I'd want that big :les:S*CK IT KU![hairGel] win that we haven't had in awhile. KSU doesn't matter, since we beat em twice last year and still didn't go postseasoning.

I would take a loss to TCU, or Tech, or all of the above then sweep the Big 12 tourney if it meant that we made it back to the postseason.

[Soonerjeepman]

funny thing is, besides KU...I'd say the next 2/6 spots are open....maybe more. TCU/WV tie for the bottom...prob TT as well.

[Ton Loc]

No probably about it. TT is worse than WV and TCU.

[8timechamps]

interesting. I'll hold out til end of season to see if we can make it. I think if we can go 9/9 in the Big 12 that might be good enough. We'll see...

question is, would you rather split with KU/KSU or another top 3 -4 team in the league and lose a game we should win, like TT..TCU...guess it would be a question of the win being worth more than a loss you shouldn't have.

The Sooners will lose a game they should't. It's the nature of the college game.

The flip side is that the Sooners can win a game they shouldn't. I really like the way we match up with KU. I can see a win over KU in Norman...of course, I "saw" a win over A&M in the Cotton Bowl too.

[S.PadreIsl.Sooner]

I know it shows our boys now, but we have so far to go before then! This season could be something to remember. But it could still go south if the guys don't take the next step. Followed by the next, etc.

[badger]

Moving up, beyonces!

We are now an 8-seed (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)

Others in Big 12:
Kansas (1-seed)
Kansas State (6-seed)
Baylor (8-seed)
Poke State (9-seed)
Iowa State (10-seed)

Of note, ISU is projected to be in a First Four game. Both KSU and us are moving up, while everyone else stayed the same seed-wise.

[badger]

For the lulz:

Preseason (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/iteration/0): Texas was a 7-seed. As of today, they have yet to win a Big 12 game. Baylor was a 4-seed.

We were first mentioned in ESPN's bracketology on Jan. 8 as an 11-seed. We've moved up every week since!

[8timechamps]

Moving up, beyonces!

We are now an 8-seed (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)

Others in Big 12:
Kansas (1-seed)
Kansas State (6-seed)
Baylor (8-seed)
Poke State (9-seed)
Iowa State (10-seed)

Of note, ISU is projected to be in a First Four game. Both KSU and us are moving up, while everyone else stayed the same seed-wise.

LOL, we can't get away from Colorado. Last week we were a 9 seed, they were an 8 seed (playing in the East region). Now the seeds are flipped and we're playing each other in the West region.

[Soonerjeepman]

I just want to keep improving...I hope we can hang with ku in lawrence this weekend...the obvious is slowing it down...not 15 + to's like at ksu.

[badger]

I think we get ranked if we beat KU on Saturday. :P

[S.PadreIsl.Sooner]

definitely getting points. Are we getting any points now? I haven't seen any polls.

[badger]

definitely getting points. Are we getting any points now? I haven't seen any polls.

We got two votes in the ESPN/USAToday poll after beating Texas A&M. We haven't sniffed either poll since. Hell, even Poke is still getting votes :mad:

[Soonerjeepman]

I think we get ranked if we beat KU on Saturday. :P

I would hope so. I really don't want to be a dd but that will take a lot of good things, no mistakes, or not very many.

[badger]

I would hope so. I really don't want to be a dd but that will take a lot of good things, no mistakes, or not very many.
You're a realist and it's OK. I think most Sooner fans are resigned to our teams losing to the No. 1 teams in the country this weekend (as KU will be, as Duke lost at Miami by about 30, tee hee).

Not to mention the games are both on the road. :(

[Eielson]

I think the difference in OU getting into the NCAA Tournament could very well be if the Big XII gets 5 bids or 6. That's right around the spot we're likely to be hanging.

[8timechamps]

I think the difference in OU getting into the NCAA Tournament could very well be if the Big XII gets 5 bids or 6. That's right around the spot we're likely to be hanging.

I agree, and I think it's going to come down to how the Sooners preform in the conference tourney.

[Collier11]

We are currently 4-2 and we have 1 game left with Tech and 2 with TCU. If we can win all 3 of those (which we should) that gets us to 7 wins. That means we only need to go 2-7 to get to 9 wins in conf or 3-6 to get to 10 in conference. It would be nice to beat Kstate at home, we need an upset win for sure

[8timechamps]

We are currently 4-2 and we have 1 game left with Tech and 2 with TCU. If we can win all 3 of those (which we should) that gets us to 7 wins. That means we only need to go 2-7 to get to 9 wins in conf or 3-6 to get to 10 in conference. It would be nice to beat Kstate at home, we need an upset win for sure

Don't forget WVU, we still have another game with the Mountaineers (that should be a win).

We really need a couple of quality wins if we're going to be a bubble team. Maybe the Big XII competition will make up for a lack of quality OOC games.

[badger]

I haven't mentioned or linked the chicks side of things, so here's that. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/bracketology)

In Big 12:
Baylor 1 seed
Poke State 4 seed
OU 5 seed
ISU 7 seed
WVU 9 seed (one of last four in)
Kansas 10 seed
Texas Tech 10 seed

Big 12 is tied with SEC for most bids with 7

Note: Unlike their Bevo brothers, Lady Whorn is still completely defeated in the Big 12, currently at 0-7

[tycat947]

Note: Unlike their Bevo brothers, Lady Whorn is still completely defeated in the Big 12, currently at 0-7

Badger, the lady whorns came back from an 8 point deficit in the first half to swamp Deb's Lady Cats for their 1st Big 12 win this weekend also. Don't forget Deb's Lady Cats were playing with 5 scholarship players and 1 walk-on.

[Eielson]

If we can finish the deal and pull off a sweep against Baylor, this could really shake things up. I had us battling it out with OSU and ISU for the last two NCAA locks (4-6). If we can win in Norman against Baylor and K-State, we've got a great chance to make a run for that 2 spot. Regardless, this win has me more confident than ever that we're NCAA bound.

[badger]

Bracketology updated a few days ago. Here's a link (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology). Big 12 still has 6 bids:
1 seed Kansas
7 seed KSU
8 seed Baylor (lol @ them)
10 seed OU
10 seed OSU
11 seed ISU

Every team's projection except KU and Baylor moved down from last week.

[tycat947]

I'm confident that if we beat K-State at home this weekend, we'll also be getting some votes in the polls!!!

[Eielson]

Bracketology updated a few days ago. Here's a link (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology). Big 12 still has 6 bids:
1 seed Kansas
7 seed KSU
8 seed Baylor (lol @ them)
10 seed OU
10 seed OSU
11 seed ISU

Every team's projection except KU and Baylor moved down from last week.

I guarantee that our #2 team will end up higher than a 7 seed.

[Eielson]

I'm confident that if we beat K-State at home this weekend, we'll also be getting some votes in the polls!!!

I think we're in a position for the third straight weekend where we will be rated if we win. Hopefully this one goes better than the last two.

[Sooner95]

I'm confident that if we beat K-State at home this weekend, we'll also be getting some votes in the polls!!!

I was about to ask... ANd I agree.

[Sooner95]

I like the "S-curve" this guy puts together...

http://bracketville.wordpress.com/s-curve/


JANUARY 15 | S-CURVE RANKINGS | 1-68

1. KANSAS 2. MICHIGAN 3. FLORIDA 4. ARIZONA
5. Indiana 6. Syracuse 7. Duke 8. GONZAGA
9. MIAMI-FL 10. Michigan State 11. BUTLER 12. Louisville
13. Ohio State 14. OREGON 15. NEW MEXICO 16. Creighton
17. Cincinnati 18. Kansas State 19. Marquette 20. San Diego State
21. NC State 22. WICHITA STATE 23. Minnesota 24. UNLV
25. Missouri 26. Pittsburgh 27. Georgetown 28. UCLA
29. Notre Dame 30. VCU 31. Wisconsin 32. Colorado
33. Mississippi 34. Colorado State 35. Oklahoma 36. Oklahoma State
37. MEMPHIS 38. Baylor 39. Temple 40. North Carolina
41. Kentucky 42. Saint Louis 43. Indiana State 44. Illinois
45. Villanova 46. La Salle 47. Arizona State 48. Iowa State
49. MID TENNESSEE ST 50. BELMONT
51. LEHIGH 52. OHIO 53. SO DAKOTA ST 54. S.F. AUSTIN
55. LOUISIANA TECH 56. HARVARD 57. DAVIDSON 58. VALPARAISO
59. MONTANA 60. NORTHEASTERN 61. NIAGARA 62. SOUTHERN
63. STONY BROOK 64. LONG BEACH 65. BRYANT 66. FLORIDA GULF COAST
67. CHARL-SOUTHERN 68. NORFOLK STATE

[Eielson]

Kansas losing to OSU hurts.

[CowboyMRW]

Hurts who? That should help you as you've already beat us once come March. These last two games OSU has played very well and if that trend can continue, that win will only continue to look better in March

[soonercastor]

We need another solid second half

[kevpks]

Well put a big fat down arrow by us. We looked terrible today. I hope we can win our next game to make up for it.

[Collier11]

9-10 conference wins is still attainable, if we do that we have a good shot. We could use an upset at home of Kansas though

[Eielson]

Hurts who? That should help you as you've already beat us once come March. These last two games OSU has played very well and if that trend can continue, that win will only continue to look better in March

Hurts OU. The Big XII has 5 NCAA locks, and until today we had the edge on OSU. Now we don't. With Baylor's recent slip ups, we might be able to edge them out if we can complete the sweep against them. I don't think we'll be ahead of Baylor when it's all said and done, though, so that means we'll probably be sluggin it out with ISU for the last spot. I know there is potential for a sixth bid, but it's far from a guarantee.

[Collier11]

Eielson, I thought the NCAA said they dont consider head to head, only who your quality wins are against? Bottom line, if we get to 10 conf wins I think we are a lock, if we get to 9 it will be close

[badger]

They updated it Friday on ESPN. (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
1-seed Kansas
6-seed KSU
9-seed OU
9-seed Baylor
10-seed OSU
11-seed Iowa State

[Collier11]

First time since Gonzaga that we have taken a butt whippin...I really hope we havent peaked. Kruger wont let us fall apart but I do fear that we slip to the NIT if we dont stop this at just 2 or 3 games

[soonercastor]

Too bad we play kansas next. damn.
An upset here would be HUGE :youdontsay:

[badger]

OU > Poke > KU

:eddie: yeah i know that's aggy logic

[Sooner95]

The first ESPN Bubble watch is out..


Oklahoma [14-7 (5-4), RPI: 23, SOS: 5] You know who we don't talk about in the Big 12? Oklahoma. (Go ahead: Name one Sooner. Thought so.) But Lon Kruger's team really does have a shot at an NCAA bid not only because the Sooners are playing modestly efficient hoops but because their nonconference schedule didn't gorge itself on ugly guarantee games. There is more work to be done, starting with Saturday's home date against Kansas, but the computer numbers here are eminently favorable.


So even with the drubbing at Ames we still look ok. Got KU coming up to end this 5 games of hell part of the schedule. I was hoping we could have gotten 2 of the 5, still could but a monster effort will be needed.

Having said that, our last 8 games are all VERY winnable.

[8timechamps]

The first ESPN Bubble watch is out..




So even with the drubbing at Ames we still look ok. Got KU coming up to end this 5 games of hell part of the schedule. I was hoping we could have gotten 2 of the 5, still could but a monster effort will be needed.

Having said that, our last 8 games are all VERY winnable.

I think this part was interesting:


But Lon Kruger's team really does have a shot at an NCAA bid not only because the Sooners are playing modestly efficient hoops but because their nonconference schedule didn't gorge itself on ugly guarantee games.

Even though OU didn't play a lot of high profile teams, they didn't play a ton of Coppin State type games either. That may be the difference in the end.

A win against KU would be huge, but I'm not assuming that will be the case. After that, the only tough games left are Iowa State (in Norman), Baylor (in Norman) and at Oklahoma State. And all of those are certainly winnable.

[CowboyMRW]

Holy ****, big win tonight for us. I know, I know, you beat Baylor on the road, but we pulled it off tonight. Got a nice little 4 game win streak going into Austin Saturday.

[colleyvillesooner]

Pretty good game right now for KU and TCU. TCU held KU to 13 1st half points.

TCU 33
KU 19
13:00 2nd

[Blue]

Pretty good game right now for KU and TCU. TCU held KU to 13 1st half points.

TCU 33
KU 19
13:00 2nd

Great game.

[Soonerjeepman]

tcu up by 8 3.36 left

[Blue]

And if we beat em Sat will be one game back. :)

Oh and Good for TCU.

[Soonerjeepman]

can't see ku losing twice...hate to say it and the way we have played lately...offensively.

[Blue]

can't see ku losing twice...hate to say it and the way we have played lately...offensively.

All we need is one of those games where the crowd is pumped and we're hitting everything. Happens all the time.

[colleyvillesooner]

TCU up 55-45 with 1:54 up

[Soonerjeepman]

I hope....

[tycat947]

I can't remember the squawkers ever not ready to play us regardless of how good or bad we are. I'm sure they will see the wrath of Self when they get home and arrive with fire in their eyes.

[Soonerjeepman]

down to 6...why can't ku lose to us...and not the BOTTOM of the big 12...geeze...

[Blue]

I can't remember the squawkers ever not ready to play us regardless of how good or bad we are. I'm sure they will see the wrath of Self when they get home and arrive with fire in their eyes.

I aint skeered.

[Soonerjeepman]

e johnson will NOT play against us..I'm sure...lots of complaining up here about him. He was 1/10 so far

[Soonerjeepman]

lol...he just hit his 2nd 3...lol maybe he will play

[tycat947]

How embarrassing! Can't wait for all the meltdown material Badger will have to sift through!!!

[Soonerjeepman]

lol...yup

[8timechamps]

can't see ku losing twice...hate to say it and the way we have played lately...offensively.

They already lost twice (OSU/TCU), now they're going to make it three in a row!

Something is amiss with KU right now, and given how well OU matched up in Lawrence, I think a win Saturday is very possible.

[Eielson]

I think we lose to Kansas, beat TCU, and then lose another at OSU to end up at 6-6. Very disappointing considering our start, but not completely devastating, because the schedule sets up pretty well for us to grab 5 of the last 6 and head into NCAA selections with the deceptive appearance of a "hot" team.

[soonercastor]

We'd probably be ranked come Monday had we beaten KState or ISU

[IronHorseSooner]

Looking at the remaining 8 games and predicitions:

TCU twice - 2 x W
@ OSU- L (they are playing really well right now)
@UT- W (Kobongo or not, UT is BAD!)
Baylor @ home- W
WVU @ home- W (even thought they are playing better)
@ Tech- W (A tourney team wins this game)
ISU @ home - W (We avenge that loss- this game will be for a Top 4 seed in the Big 12 tourney)

That would put us at 13-5. Here is how I have the other top teams panning out:

KU- 13-5 (losses @ ISU and @ OSU)
KSU- 13-5 (@ KU, @ Baylor, @ OSU)
OSU- 14-4 (@ ISU)
ISU- 12-6 (@ Baylor, @ OU)
BU- 11-7 (@ KSU, @OU, KU)

Final Standings:
1. OSU 14-4
2. KSU 13-5
2. KU- 13-5
2. OU- 13-5
5. ISU- 12-6
6. BU- 11-7

This means that the OU-OSU game up there could be for the Big 12 regular season title- maybe!

[Collier11]

You have us going 7-1 in the final 8. I say we are still a little young and figuring out how to sustain success...We finish 5-3 down the stretch which puts us at 20-10 (11-7)

[8timechamps]

You have us going 7-1 in the final 8. I say we are still a little young and figuring out how to sustain success...We finish 5-3 down the stretch which puts us at 20-10 (11-7)

This is where I stand too. Can we win out? Sure! Will we? I'm not confident enough to predict that. One thing about this team that is starting to show is their ability to learn from previous mistakes. After the big win over Baylor, they followed it up with a loss. Hopefully, they don't repeat that on Monday. Lon's idea of toughing it out with the young guys early in the season is starting to pay off, so anything is possible. Still, I see more of a 5-3/6-2 type finish.

[Collier11]

anything 5-3 or better guarantees us a tourney spot IMO

[Bourbon St Sooner]

I think we go at least 6-2 over the final 8 games. This team has completely exceeded my expectations in conference so far. Over the last 5 game stretch, I said I would be happy if we went 1-4 but we managed to go 2-3 and damn near went 3-2.

We've got a chance at aggie as long as they have the same coach.

[Collier11]

well now that Hield is out, lets see how we respond

[badger]

Bracketology update via ESPN: (http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology)
Kansas falls to a 3-seed
KSU rises to a 4-seed
Poke still a 6-seed
OU up to a 9-seed
Baylor up to 10-seed
Iowa State down to 10-seed

Big 12 is still solid at 6. I see no other conference teams sneaking in, barring a magical Big 12 tourney run (and then, either Baylor or ISU get knocked out) and don't see any of these teams, barring a late season collapse, getting knocked out. None are identified as "last four in" or "next four out" right now

[tycat947]

Wow! Huge drop for the Jaywhorns!!! I think we're better than a 9 seed but it may not show, especially now that Hield is injured. :(

[8timechamps]

Wow! Huge drop for the Jaywhorns!!! I think we're better than a 9 seed but it may not show, especially now that Hield is injured. :(

Crazy year in men's hoops, look at the other projected 9 seeds:

Kentucky
Missouri
Memphis

[tycat947]

Crazy year in men's hoops, look at the other projected 9 seeds:

Kentucky
Missouri
Memphis

MIZ...ZOU!!!!!!!!????????????? What has the world come to????????????? Unbelievable for such a "relevant" program!!! :excitement:

[Bourbon St Sooner]

Jerry Palm has us right now as a 7 seed and he's got Iowa State on the outside now. I guess that's what a loss to whorn will do to you.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

[badger]

Amazingly, ESPN has not evicted ISU yet on theirs, which was updated today (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)...

Kansas (3-seed)
KSU (4-seed)
Pokes (up to a 4-seed)
OU (down to a 9-seed)
Baylor (11-seed)
ISU (down to an 11-seed)

So, still six Big 12 teams. At this rate, ISU and Baylor have some must-wins coming up, whereas OU must NOT meltdown and fetal position in the "fourth quarter" of the regular season... or since this is college basketball, let's just kick ourselves in the balls again and say "not fetal postion in overtime." :mad:

I hate myself already for saying that so that you all don't have to.

The other three are locks for NCAAs, with Poke pretty much sealing their spot by beating us on Saturday. Here's some key games down the stretch, IMHO:

OU:
Hosting Baylor 4 p.m. Saturday
Hosting ISU March 2

Baylor:
Hosting ISU 8 p.m. Weds
@ OU 4 p.m. Saturday
Hosting KSU March 2
Hosting Kansas March 9

ISU:
@ Baylor 8 p.m. Weds
Hosting KU 8 p.m. Saturday
@ OU March 2
Hosting Poke March 6

Of those games, I'd say OU needs to win 1-2, Baylor needs to win 2-3 and ISU cannot afford ANY ****-ups here on out after losing to at Bevo.

OU has no bad losses, which gives them a bit of wiggle room, whereas Iowa State and Baylor....

ISU: @Iowa, @Tech, @Texas
Baylor: @College of Charleston, Northwestern

Of the two if you could only take one, I'd say it is VERY even and may come down to the result of Wednesday's head-to-head (ISU already won the matchup at Ames)

[8timechamps]

My prediction for the remaining schedule:

@ Texas Tech - Win
Baylor - Win
@ Texas - Win
Iowa State - Win
WVU - Win
@ TCU - Win

Going out on a limb huh?

I really tried to find a loss in there, but I just don't see it. The two toughest games left (as badger pointed out) are ISU and Baylor, and both of those are at home. Texas really sucks this year, so I just don't see a loss there. Tech and WVu are both pretty bad, and TCU may be the worst of the group

OU probably has the easiest schedule of the remaining conference teams in the hunt for a bid. Baylor probably has the toughest (although OSU still has KSU and KU left).

[OUSKINS]

I think we finish 4-2 down the stretch, losing one of the three remaining home games and stumbling once on the road (most likely at UT).

[CowboyMRW]

The Big 12 championship and a possible 2 seed is on the line tonight in GIA with Kansas coming in.

[badger]

The Big 12 championship and a possible 2 seed is on the line tonight in GIA with Kansas coming in.

Let me just spoil the ending for you:

You are going to lose.

You are going to be "bringing rowby back" to GIA (in the form of at least 2K in blue and red), no doubt, but you will lose.

You will lose by so much that you will be serenaded with "Roooooock Challlllk..." and OP will demand Fraud Pinto's firing in 20 pages or more of meltdown.

I will dishonor said meltdown after the fact, but of course :)

You will lose. You will lose the Big 12 regular season title, you lose in the Big 12 tournament, and you will lose within the first two rounds of the NCAA tournament.

Poke choke.

[/end spoiler]

PS: I'm qualified to say this, as our team, unlike yours, knows how to defeat KU at home this season :D

EDIT: I offered Cowboy the chance for his fellow Pokes to be absolved from meltdown in exchange for no new avatar/etc, but he didn't take me up on the offer. Yay gymnastics. Woot woot

[badger]

Women's Bracketology update: (http://espn.go.com/ncw/bracketology)
Baylor 1-seed
Iowa State down to 6-seed
Pokette up to 7-seed
Texas Tech 7-seed
OU down to 8-seed
Kansas up to 9-seed
West Virginia 10-seed

I think we're a solid 7-team conference, even if we all get repeatedly blown out by sucky Baylor. Alas, I suspect that OU will be one-and-doom come tourney time, recalling the 2005 postseason in the 8-spot (we were bubbling to get in that year, much like this year). It will take favorable scheduling... or perhaps home court advantage... to get out of the opening round(s).

Also of local interest, Oral Roberts moved up... to a 15-seed. nyuck nyuck.

[CowboyMRW]

Haha, I just realized in that I spelled Gymnastics as Gymanstics on your profile.

[badger]

Haha, I just realized in that I spelled Gymnastics as Gymanstics on your profile.

i think all of our championships are mens so i guess its appropriate.

still, as rasslin' is no longer an olympic sport, we'll see tons more OU gymnasts make the Olympic team than OSU rasslers. Hell, we'll see OU's own Blake Griffin make the Olympic team before... um... whoever you guys think is good enough.

[CowboyMRW]

i think all of our championships are mens so i guess its appropriate.

still, as rasslin' is no longer an olympic sport, we'll see tons more OU gymnasts make the Olympic team than OSU rasslers. Hell, we'll see OU's own Blake Griffin make the Olympic team before... um... whoever you guys think is good enough.

We still got the 2016 Olympics for wrestling, and it's not a for sure thing that wrestling is gone forever. Blake Griffin being selected depends on who they get to coach.

Lastly, whoever the girl gymnast on soonersports is, is a lovely girl.

[Bourbon St Sooner]

At least our championships don't involve rolling around on the floor in tights with another dude.

[CowboyMRW]

While I know it's fun to poke fun of wrestling championships and all, even I do sometimes, it should also be known that wrestling is the most demanding sport in college. What they go through is unreal as far as training and dieting

[8timechamps]

I think we finish 4-2 down the stretch, losing one of the three remaining home games and stumbling once on the road (most likely at UT).

Something is really wrong if we lose to Texas (even in Austin). They are really, really awful this year.

[badger]

Let me just spoil the ending for you:

You are going to lose.

I like being right. Time to warm up the meltdown thread... :stunned:

[CowboyMRW]

I like being right. Time to warm up the meltdown thread... :stunned:

It'll be all about the refs. That'll sum it up for you

[Eielson]

Blake Griffin being selected depends on who they get to coach.

Not really. He was a starter on the olympic team, not just some scrub. Behind, Durant, he very well may be the biggest lock to be on the roster come 2016.

[Salt City Sooner]

Something is really wrong if we lose to Texas (even in Austin). They are really, really awful this year.

They were good enough to beat Iowa State this past week. A win is definitely attainable, but the guys are going to have to bring it in that one.

[badger]

Update! (http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology) With Baylor sucking a lot lately (losing to ISU then to us) and not having a very good resume to fall back on (top five SOS, beyonces!), they are among the "First Four out" this week.

So, Big 12 down to five bids:
Kansas 2-seed
KSU 4-seed
Pokes up to 4-seed
OU 9-seed
ISU 10-seed

I still think that ISU is short one win to get in. Sadly, that may come down to beating us this week in Norman (12:30 p.m. Saturday) but it could also be OSU (March 6) or @West Virginia (March 9).

I suspect Mr. Bracket Dude didn't take into account that we won all last week, much like Mr. Poll Dudes didn't give us any AP poll votes this week (we got five USA Today votes, however). So, just to spite them all, let's continue winning:
8 p.m. Weds at Texas
12:30 p.m. Saturday hosting ISU
March 6 hosting WVU
March 9 @TCU

So long as we don't lose all four, we are in. I think we could even tank 3 for 4 and still be in.

Our other three are top 25, have sig wins and are guaranteed locks.

[8timechamps]

They were good enough to beat Iowa State this past week. A win is definitely attainable, but the guys are going to have to bring it in that one.

This year has been murder on road teams in the conference. With that said, OU has played fewer home games than any team in D1 (crazy). So, hopefully they have the winning forumla. But, you are correct, the Texas game isn't the "gimmie" I made it out to be in my post.

[badger]

On the women's side, as of Feb. 25 (http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/bracketology), Big 12 still has 7 bids for our 10 teams:

Bailure: 1-seed
ISU: 5-seed
Texas Tech: 6-seed
Pokette: 7-seed
OU: 8-seed
West Virginia: 10-seed
Kansas: 13-seed

Again, Ms. Bracket Dudette must be sleeping, as OU is on a two-game losing streak and fell out of the top 25 a few weeks ago (we aren't even receiving votes in the AP poll anymore this week). But, I'll take it.

[Bourbon St Sooner]

Palm dropped us to an 8 seed after we won twice last week. Baylor's so bad you beat them and you drop. Oh well, we need to keep winning and hopefully the real committee will put us above that 8-9 area.

[Collier11]

texas was a BAD loss, but it is kind of funny that I see so many tv guys and hear so many radio guys panicking and saying we are on the bubble now, or close to it. We are safely in, we are safely in if we lose to Iowa state. The only way we are on the bubble is if we only win 1 of the next 3 or all 3 and then lose the 1st rd of the Big 12 Tourney

[Eielson]

I want us to win more just for extra assurance, but I'm pulling for an 11 seed. I don't want anything to do with 7-10. I was wanting to make a run at 5/6 range, but we pretty well lost those hopes unless we win out (including the Big XII tournament).

[texaspokieokie]

Why would you prefer "11 seed" to "7-10" ???

[badger]

Why would you prefer "11 seed" to "7-10" ???

Hell, put us in the "First Four," :les: I JUST WANNA BE BACK IN THE POSTSEASON! [hairGel]

[Eielson]

Why would you prefer "11 seed" to "7-10" ???

If we're in the 8-9 game, then we're gonna get somebody like Indiana in the second round.

Having said that, it kinda depends on who gets seeded where and which one we draw. There could be some really good 3 seeds come tourney time, so who knows (Louisville could be a 3 seed, and I'm still feeling pain from the beatdown Pitino gave us last time)? Right now I see the 1 seeds as Indiana, Gonzaga, Florida, and Duke (unless Miami wins tomorrow). If Kansas were a #1 seed, though, I would love to get matched up against them in a 1/8 game just for the opportunity to potentially humiliate them Northern Iowa-style.

[badger]

If we're in the 8-9 game, then we're gonna get somebody like Indiana in the second round.

Or... a Gonzaga rematch??? :D

[Eielson]

Or... a Gonzaga rematch??? :D

Part of me wants to say that we're playing a lot better at this point of the season. But then the other part of me knows that Olynyk only played 17 minutes (coming off of a suspension, and then they didn't need him), and Pangos had one of his worst games of the year, so two of their three best players had very little impact, and they still won by 25. I'd love to play them to gauge how far we've come, but not in an elimination game.

[badger]

Bracketology updated today. We are still a 5-bid conference with Baylor among the first four out:
Kansas 1-seed (facing 16-seed Northeastern in Kansas City)
KSU 3-seed (facing 14-seed South Dakota State in Kansas City)
Poke 5-seed (facing 12-seed LaSalle in Salt Lake City)
OU 11-seed (you are gonna hate this... IN AUSTIN vs 6-seed Butler)
ISU 11-seed (6-seed Colorado State in Auburn Hills... I think that's a Detroit burb)

[8timechamps]

Bracketology updated today. We are still a 5-bid conference with Baylor among the first four out:
Kansas 1-seed (facing 16-seed Northeastern in Kansas City)
KSU 3-seed (facing 14-seed South Dakota State in Kansas City)
Poke 5-seed (facing 12-seed LaSalle in Salt Lake City)
OU 11-seed (you are gonna hate this... IN AUSTIN vs 6-seed Butler)
ISU 11-seed (6-seed Colorado State in Auburn Hills... I think that's a Detroit burb)

11 seed is too low, but if the Sooners take care of business the rest of the way, that will take care of itself.

When I heard that KU was a projected 1 seed, I almost choked on my coffee. Although they have just as much of an argument as any of the other projected 1 seeds, if there was ever going to be a 16 beating a 1, this could be the year (and I'm not just referring to KU).

The rest look fine.

[kevpks]

I think the experts are right about OU being in the 8/9 range right now. If we win out and win a Big XII tournament game, we even could move up a bit.

[badger]

Time for another update on the men's side -- 5 bids still! Iowa State is now among the "last four in," while Bailure, fresh off a loss to whorn, is among the "next four out." I'd say both teams need good showings in both regular season finales AND the big 12 tourney at this point to escape the NIT.

Being one of the lasties means a play-in game projection for I-State. ESPN has 12-seed play-in versus Temple, with the winner facing UNLV in Salt Lake City.

Bailure is hosting KU 6 p.m. March 9 (Saturday I think) while Iowa State has two reg season games -- hosting Poke Weds then at WV on Saturday/March 9.

Kansas 1 seed at KC
KSU 3 seed at KC

That is huge for both of them being able to be at the Big 12 tourney in KC (only the womens is in Dallas this year) and then go to the NCAAs at the same place... assuming they don't fetal position in the next week.

OSU up to 4 seed at San Jose
OU up to 10 seed at Auburn Hills (Detroit)

But I bet either of these would love to slip into a KC regional instead, even if it means a lower seed overall.

Poke finishes its regular season tomorrow at ISU and hosting KSU Saturday/March 9.
We host WV tomorrow and go to TCU March 9/Saturday.

[badger]

And now, the women:

Kansas has been downgraded to "first four out," giving the Big 12 six bids. If you pay attention to the top 25, this is about right, as Baylor is our only ranked team left. See? Baylor is bad for the conference and needs to go to the Sun Belt asap.

Baylor 1-seed in Waco
ISU 6-seed in College Park
Pokette 6-seed in Spokane
Texas Tech 6-seed in Lubbock
OU 8-seed in Storrs, yes that Storrs, the one where UConn is (a 1-seed in the same bracket, gag)
WV 9-seed in Columbus

While I glare at the idea of playing UConn in Storrs for the tourney, the NCAA needs to do this for the early rounds for the womens tourney to continue building the local fanbases. As much fun as it was opening the tourney in Tempe, Az back when I was in college, the crowds were sparse and would have been much more lively in Norman (where we would have gone, had we beaten Stanford, grrrrr).

I think the Big 12 all can't wait for Baylor to be out durrrrrrk durrrrrk (i mean dunk dunk) Griner. For all the BS the Big 12 went through lately with being fair on TV payouts and not catering to just one team, it's time for more parity in the Big 12 womens basketball competition... and yes, I realize that the Big East with UConn probably thought the same thing for years without results... and now the Big East is in shambles with a sh!tty TV deal, so don't even try that logic.

[sluggo sooner]

Is Stephen F. Austin the only Texas school with a chance at being selected?

[StoopTroup]

So now we play North Carolina? Ugh

[8timechamps]

Is Stephen F. Austin the only Texas school with a chance at being selected?

I think so. Funny huh?!

[Soonerfan88]

Jeebus, who thought holding any part of the tourney in Lubbock was a good idea?

[StoopTroup]

Twitter Feed....

PaulBiancardi Paul Biancardi
#UNC playing a new style of BBALL called " Small Ball" PJ Hairston at the PF spot. Must defend them by chasing #TarHeels off the 3 PT line.
4 minutes ago

[Blue]

Question about Big 12 tourney seeding. It looks like we and OSU will both be 12-6. Who gets the 3 seed? I would much rather play Baylor first round than Iowa state.

[CowboyMRW]

We have to lose our last two games to drop to 12-6...

[Blue]

We have to lose our last two games to drop to 12-6...
1 down, Kstate to go....

[8timechamps]

We have to lose our last two games to drop to 12-6...

You mean your last game. Is that game at K-State?

[8timechamps]

Question about Big 12 tourney seeding. It looks like we and OSU will both be 12-6. Who gets the 3 seed? I would much rather play Baylor first round than Iowa state.

That's a good question, because it's very possible that it ends that way. Since we split the regular season games, they'd probably have to go to some crazy tie-breaker, like which coaches wife makes the best mashed potatoes.

[badger]

We have to lose our last two games to drop to 12-6...

You mean your last game. Is that game at K-State?
Altogether now lets remind poor cowboy that his pokes just lost to isu :D

...on a wide field goal, giving you your only loss of the season and eliminating you from nat'l title contention :stunned:

[8timechamps]

Altogether now lets remind poor cowboy that his pokes just lost to isu :D

...on a wide field goal, giving you your only loss of the season and eliminating you from nat'l title contention :stunned:

http://urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/oklahoma-state-VS-iowa-state.jpg

[Collier11]

Brandon Weeden was on my flight back to OKC from Houston, even though he is a starting QB in the NFL, I had no desire to get an autograph, pic, or even talk to him...BOOMER!

Now back to hoops, good win tonight...we are proving to be a pretty tough and resilient team. It would be a shame if this team doesnt go out with atleast 1 NCAA win

[Salt City Sooner]

Question about Big 12 tourney seeding. It looks like we and OSU will both be 12-6. Who gets the 3 seed? I would much rather play Baylor first round than Iowa state.
We'd get the 3 seed. Tie breaker is going down the standings list from top to bottom & comparing the records of the teams in question vs. those teams. We'd be identical until you get to Baylor, whom OU swept, while OSU split with.

[badger]

Welcome to an alternative reality known as last August :D

1 seeds: Kentucky, UCLA, Indiana and Louisville

Big 12's 5 bids:
Kansas 2-seed
Baylor 4-seed
Texas 7-seed
KSU 8-seed

Things look weirder in November:
1 seeds: Ohio State, Kentucky, Indiana Louisville

Big 12's six bids:
Kansas 2-seed
Texas 6-seed
Baylor 6-seed
KSU 7-seed
Poke play-in 13-seed
ISU play-in 13-seed

OU didn't enter ESPN's bracketology predictions till January.

[OkieThunderLion]

even though he is a starting QB in the NFL, I had no desire to get an autograph

Good choice! Autographs are awkward.

[Collier11]

yea, I have some that I got as gifts but none that I have asked a person for...just weird

[8timechamps]

yea, I have some that I got as gifts but none that I have asked a person for...just weird

I've always thought that autographs were a kids thing. Don't get me wrong, I love 'em and own several, but I have never had the desire to ask for an autograph. I'd much rather shake the person's hand.

Speaking of that, I met O.J. Simpson in Vail (the year before the murders), and shook his hand. I remember thinking at the time "Man, those hands are huge, they could do some damage!"....

Sorry to threadjack.

[badger]

Its ok. I think the brackets are gonna do whatever the hell they do at this point. The only thing left to settle is who the auto bids are via the conference tourneys and if the bubble teams can get some tourney wins to get off the bubble :)

There's nothing wrong with adults seeking autographs... but I've seen some downright embarrassing adults seeking autographs at OU and elsewhere. Not saying "thank you" afterward? Cutting in front of kids just because you're bigger and stronger and think you can get away with it? Very glad that they changed the "meet the sooners" day to just kids club members. If adults want Stoops' autograph, pay $30 to go to a caravan stop in the summer! [/rant]

[8timechamps]

Its ok. I think the brackets are gonna do whatever the hell they do at this point. The only thing left to settle is who the auto bids are via the conference tourneys and if the bubble teams can get some tourney wins to get off the bubble :)

There's nothing wrong with adults seeking autographs... but I've seen some downright embarrassing adults seeking autographs at OU and elsewhere. Not saying "thank you" afterward? Cutting in front of kids just because you're bigger and stronger and think you can get away with it? Very glad that they changed the "meet the sooners" day to just kids club members. If adults want Stoops' autograph, pay $30 to go to a caravan stop in the summer! [/rant]

The problem is that the internet ruined it for all the adults. Most people that are singled out for autographs think that the adult is going to sell it, which is probably the case a lot of times. That's why I think it's more of a kids thing, however, I'm sure that there are losers out there that use kids to get autographs so that they can turn around and sell them.

[badger]

When I went to the final Big 12 game at Nebrasky (2008? 2009?) it was the year that Sammie had just won the Heisman, but was out with injury, bringing Landry to the starting job.

He was asked MANY times by visiting Sooners for autographs. He simply looked at the big arse cast on his arm and said sorry, doctor won't allow it. Seriously, you asking an injured guy to sign with his injured arm. Gag.

Later was the all-time quotable, though, as little kids (with adults not far behind... hmmm...) were chasing down players for autographs. One came back all disgruntled to an adult and said "All I got was Jimmy Stevens!"

My friends overheard that and lost it.

[8timechamps]

I was stuck in the Atlanta airport about 6 or 7 years ago, and was having a beer waiting, when I noticed Michael Irvin come in. He walked up to the bar (right next to me) and ordered a drink. He said something about the delays (there was a big storm delay on the east coast), and me not wanting to look star struck said "Yeah, the things we have to deal with" (I don't know if I was putting he and I in the same category or what, it just kinda came out). Anyway, a waitress came over and said "Can I get an autograph for my kid?", and he replied something like "Sure, come to a signing, pay your money, and I'll give you one". She thought he was kidding, until he said "I ain't joking".

He seemed like a nice enough guy until that happened.

[CowboyMRW]

Boom. Secured the 3 seed today

[8timechamps]

Boom. Secured the 3 seed today

Good win, close game.

[kevpks]

Boom. Secured the 3 seed today

Is there room for another banner in that dump to commemorate this achievement?

Sorry.

Bad mood.

TCU.

[Eielson]

Boom. Secured the 3 seed today

You're probably right. Which is crazy, because I think OU is better (or at least just as good), and we're not terribly far from the bubble.

[NormanPride]

We earned our sucky seed. Just like Kansas earned the right to give ksu a co banner.

[CowboyMRW]

I don't think the TCU loss was a big loss in the big scheme. You get ISU and then Kansas again to pad your résumé. You're not even mentioned on the bubble. You're a lock and will probably be a 7-8 seed.

It was also Hields first game back in a month and so there were some adjustments to be made.

[CowboyMRW]

And also that was a dickish way to say that we got the 3 seed and I apologize for that. I hope i didn't upset anyone by my phrasing.

[8timechamps]

We earned our sucky seed. Just like Kansas earned the right to give ksu a co banner.

Cannot argue with this. OU had it's chance to get at least a 3 seed, and blew it. It is what it is.

[StoopTroup]

I've always thought that autographs were a kids thing. Don't get me wrong, I love 'em and own several, but I have never had the desire to ask for an autograph. I'd much rather shake the person's hand.

Speaking of that, I met O.J. Simpson in Vail (the year before the murders), and shook his hand. I remember thinking at the time "Man, those hands are huge, they could do some damage!"....

Sorry to threadjack.

I was in the business of them as a Hobby for awhile. It was really fun. Some guys understand that the folks who ask them for a signature are doing it because they are fans. Some think they should receive and make money from their autograph. I like the idea of both. The thing is that for awhile in the 1990's and into the first decade of the Millennium there were so many folks who would forge autographs or worse. It and the FBI Stings that went on after that hurt the business and really put a bad light on those of us that would never deal in forgeries. I've seen some of these guys that for $20 or even less would give you a Certificate of Authenticity that a dog turd was a flawless diamond.

It really took the fun out of it for me. Upper Deck and a few others tried to help clean up the Autograph Industry and when they did, many Players felt it an opportunity to make a bunch of money on it instead of increase their Fan Base.

IMHO one of the reasons that Mickey Mantle was so popular was that even though he did make money on many of his autograph sessions....he also would hardly ever turn down some kid that was a fan and wanted him to sign a baseball for him. I met this one gal out in California that would hire inner city kids to hang out at Hotels and such and get free autographs for her.

Again...the fun is gone. My Son and I still get them but it's just for us and it's mostly Sooners now.

[kevpks]

And also that was a dickish way to say that we got the 3 seed and I apologize for that. I hope i didn't upset anyone by my phrasing.

No. I thought it was funny. Both state school fanbases deserve a chance to bask in college basketball relevance again.

[8timechamps]

I was in the business of them as a Hobby for awhile. It was really fun. Some guys understand that the folks who ask them for a signature are doing it because they are fans. Some think they should receive and make money from their autograph. I like the idea of both. The thing is that for awhile in the 1990's and into the first decade of the Millennium there were so many folks who would forge autographs or worse. It and the FBI Stings that went on after that hurt the business and really put a bad light on those of us that would never deal in forgeries. I've seen some of these guys that for $20 or even less would give you a Certificate of Authenticity that a dog turd was a flawless diamond.

It really took the fun out of it for me. Upper Deck and a few others tried to help clean up the Autograph Industry and when they did, many Players felt it an opportunity to make a bunch of money on it instead of increase their Fan Base.

IMHO one of the reasons that Mickey Mantle was so popular was that even though he did make money on many of his autograph sessions....he also would hardly ever turn down some kid that was a fan and wanted him to sign a baseball for him. I met this one gal out in California that would hire inner city kids to hang out at Hotels and such and get free autographs for her.

Again...the fun is gone. My Son and I still get them but it's just for us and it's mostly Sooners now.

I've always wondered how those guys (the guys with the signed memorabilia stores) make money. I know they don't have to sell a lot of items a month to cover their nut, but I'm sure their inventory is costly. It'd be a tough thing to be successful at, but I know there are some long term folks that have hit home-runs.