STOCKMAN WARNS OBAMA: Push for gun control will be met with White House budget cuts

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Congressman Steve Stockman of Texas issues warning to Obeary:

http://stockman.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/stockman-warns-obama-push-for-gun-control-will-be-met-with-white-house/

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

you gotta wonder if Stockman is fully prepared for the sh*t storm that will be coming his way from the D's and their MSM, if he pursues the opposition to Obeary's steamrolling.

[nutinbutdust]

I am wondering how they would defund the white house. Does that mean taking away staff and grocery money? Would also be interesting to see how much support he would get for impeachment.

[Curly Bill]

you gotta wonder if Stockman is fully prepared for the sh*t storm that will be coming his way from the D's and their MSM, if he pursues the opposition to Obeary's steamrolling.

Not sure what district he represents in Texas, but with many Texans his stock just shot way the hell up! Now, as for the donks and their allies in the MSM...prolly not so much!

[Soonerjeepman]

read on Fox about the NY conservative area Reps that voted for same sex marriage...3/4 didn't get re-elected they now have a gun bill for the state. When people are able to vote folks out it might make a difference.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You can't out-democrat a democrat and win jack sh*t, even if one is fool enough to believe you can, and if that same person is screwed up enough to go along with socialist nonsense. People that believe republicans should move to the left are certainly part of the ever-growing problem with governance in the USA.

[rock on sooner]

Is there a list anywhere about what Obama is going to do by executive order?
I haven't seen one yet. He can't legislate by executive order. He can do some
procedural things....knee jerk reaction is a phrase one hears a lot and it appears
as though that's what Stockman has done. Just a guess on my part but it sounds
like Stockman is already running for reelection in 2014...all those Texicans are paying
attention....

[nutinbutdust]

Is there a list anywhere about what Obama is going to do by executive order?
I haven't seen one yet. He can't legislate by executive order. He can do some
procedural things....knee jerk reaction is a phrase one hears a lot and it appears
as though that's what Stockman has done. Just a guess on my part but it sounds
like Stockman is already running for reelection in 2014...all those Texicans are paying
attention....
I am not sure what he can legally do by EO. It won't surprise me if he oversteps it. If he does it will take a few years of court battles to overturn it. One thing for sure, the politicans are trying to look busy on these issues, without addressing the real problems. I think the democrats are forgetting what happened in 94 at the elections. The gun lobby in the US does not have a short memory.

[Ton Loc]

You can't out-democrat a democrat and win jack sh*t, even if one is fool enough to believe you can, and if that same person is screwed up enough to go along with socialist nonsense. People that believe republicans should move to the left are certainly part of the ever-growing problem with governance in the USA.

People who believe in a "left" and a "right" and for some reason align themselves with either side are certainly part of the ever-growing problem with with governance in the USA.

Morons - it is not a college program or a professional team.

Also, Stockman sounds like a crazy person.

[rock on sooner]

I am not sure what he can legally do by EO. It won't surprise me if he oversteps it. If he does it will take a few years of court battles to overturn it. One thing for sure, the politicans are trying to look busy on these issues, without addressing the real problems. I think the democrats are forgetting what happened in 94 at the elections. The gun lobby in the US does not have a short memory.

With the mood in the country now, I don't think the Dems need to worry about
what happened in '94. Gun mfgrs (that is the gun lobby) will gin up for 2014,
no matter what. What is a joke is the House of Representatives taking time to
read the entire US Constitution into the Congressional Record, instead of working
on legislation to fix the ills of the country.

I did see on Newsmax some of what THEY think Obama will do...a lot of it makes
sense. Keep in mind that executive orders have a finite shelf life. Personally, finding
ways to identify the mentally unstable/ill and keep firearms out of their reach is the
most important thing that can be done.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

People who believe in a "left" and a "right" and for some reason align themselves with either side are certainly part of the ever-growing problem with with governance in the USA.

Morons - it is not a college program or a professional team.

Also, Stockman sounds like a crazy person.Those who align with socialism, govt. engaging in wealth redistribution, as well as government growth through expansion of bureaucracies, acquiring more of the taxpayers' money for the government, and enlarging government in ways other than are authorized by American law, those folks are called "on the Left."

[Ton Loc]

Those who align with socialism, govt. engaging in wealth redistribution, as well as government growth through expansion of bureaucracies, acquiring more of the taxpayers' money for the government, and enlarging government in ways other than are authorized by American law, those folks are called "on the Left."

If you need to put everyone in a very large box - call them lazy, incompetent, or anything. On the "left" can't be as all encompassing as you need it to be to support your argument that those on the "right" are correct. There are as many idiots in the right as in the left. Continuing to make it a left vs right or libs vs cons leaves no room for the millions of people that will never truly fit into one of those categories. Those are the people that swing the vote, mostly against their will because they are forced to align with one of only two truly terrible choices.

[nutinbutdust]

Is there a list anywhere about what Obama is going to do by executive order?
I haven't seen one yet. He can't legislate by executive order. He can do some
procedural things....knee jerk reaction is a phrase one hears a lot and it appears
as though that's what Stockman has done. Just a guess on my part but it sounds
like Stockman is already running for reelection in 2014...all those Texicans are paying
attention....

All I have found on it.. LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/proposals-expected-obama-curb-gun-violence-200009709.html)


President Barack Obama will unveil proposals Wednesday to curb gun violence, his response to the December massacre of 26 students and teachers at their elementary school in Newtown, Conn. The plan is to be based on recommendations from Vice President Joe Biden, Obama's point man for producing gun control measures to present to Congress.
Some of the proposals will require congressional action and will face an uphill battle from lawmakers, particularly in the Republican-led House. The National Rifle Association says it will fight any legislative attempts to limit access to guns and ammunition.
Obama could put other proposals in place by executive order.
A look at some of the proposals Obama is expected to announce:
WOULD REQUIRE CONGRESSIONAL ACTION
— Banning assault weapons. Obama has spoken in support of such a measure. Congress passed a 10-year ban on high-grade, military-style weapons in 1994, signed into law by President Bill Clinton. But supporters didn't have the votes to renew the law when it expired in 2004. Last week, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., predicted that such a ban might clear the Senate this time around but he doubted it could get through the House.
— Limiting high-capacity ammunition magazines. Obama also has spoken in support of limiting access to these items, like the ones used by the Newtown shooter.
— Requiring background checks for all gun buyers. Obama has spoken in support of broader background checks. Currently, people who buy guns at trade shows and through some other private purchases, such as over the Internet, are not required to submit to background checks. Gun control advocates long have wanted Congress to close the "gun-show loophole." The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence has urged Obama to make broader background checks his top priority, believing it has the best chance to win congressional approval.
— Installing a permanent director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The agency has had an acting director for some time.
CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH EXECUTIVE ORDER
Biden has identified 19 potential actions the president could take on his own, according to Jenny Werwa, communications director for California Rep. Jackie Speier, who was among a group of House Democrats who met with the vice president on Monday. Among the actions Biden is believed to have recommended:
— Ordering tougher penalties for people who lie on background checks; only a fraction of these cases currently are prosecuted. Such a step has support from the NRA, which argues that existing laws must be enforced before new ones are considered.
— Elevating gun trafficking to a felony.
— Ending limits that make it more difficult for the government to research gun violence, such as gathering data on guns that fall into criminal hands.
— Giving schools flexibility to use federal grant money to improve school safety, such as by hiring school resource officers.
— Giving communities grants to institute programs to keep guns away from people who shouldn't have them.
ADDITIONALLY:
— Obama's proposals also are expected to include recommendations to address violence in entertainment and video games. The NRA and other gun-rights groups argue that insufficient mental health care and violent images in the media are more to blame for mass shootings than the availability of guns.

[rock on sooner]

Thanks, Dusty, the things that require Congress won't go anywhere but the XO
stuff will, until January 21, 2016 (if a Pub is elected). Despite strong NRA push
back, a lot of the public mood will prevail, as it should.. I'm pro-gun but I think
the NRA is too rigid...my heart still aches for those young ones in Newtown and
have strong views about what should be done about high capacity and mental
illness (yep, both gotta be handled, imo)...

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

If you need to put everyone in a very large box - call them lazy, incompetent, or anything. On the "left" can't be as all encompassing as you need it to be to support your argument that those on the "right" are correct. There are as many idiots in the right as in the left. Continuing to make it a left vs right or libs vs cons leaves no room for the millions of people that will never truly fit into one of those categories. Those are the people that swing the vote, mostly against their will because they are forced to align with one of only two truly terrible choices.if someone believes the USA Constitution is wrong, based on a fallacy that individual freedom is a right provided us by nature, or God , or Higher Power, then they are on the Left, believing the govt. grants basic human rights. That the govt. is the supreme authority, and has complete control over the individual citizens of that country. The choice is simple, and there are 2 positions.

[Bourbon St Sooner]

Based on what nutinbutdust posted, the executive order stuff doesn't sound all that controversial. Wait, we can actually enforce laws already in place? Imagine that.

As for this Stockman guy, who cares? He's just ginning up political points with the constituents.

[nutinbutdust]

Here is a list of the EO.LINK (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-16/obamas-23-executive-gun-control-actions)


The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health

[Ton Loc]

if someone believes the USA Constitution is wrong, based on a fallacy that individual freedom is a right provided us by nature, or God , or Higher Power, then they are on the Left, believing the govt. grants basic human rights. That the govt. is the supreme authority, and has complete control over the individual citizens of that country. The choice is simple, and there are 2 positions.

If that's your (poorly worded) definition of the left - then you've missed a large part of the people you've categorized as being on the left previously. I'm almost positive even the people on this board who have identified themselves as liberals don't fit your description.

Stockman is full of ****.


The President’s actions are an existential threat to this nation. The right of the people to keep and bear arms is what has kept this nation free and secure for over 200 years.

Pandering to the lowest common denominator to hopefully get a push towards his next election. My guess is he probably didn't even write that.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

You go Stockman... Wish he was my rep instead of the Carpet Bagger we have now...

[OU Adonis]

I think some people are underestimating how pissed off a decent percentage of people are about what the Big O is doing right now. I mean SERIOUSLY pissed off.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Not sure what district he represents in Texas, but with many Texans his stock just shot way the hell up! Now, as for the donks and their allies in the MSM...prolly not so much!

He reps T36, East Texas, Beaumont, Piney Woods area up to East Harris county. I was almost in his district...

[Harry Beanbag]

I think some people are underestimating how pissed off a decent percentage of people are about what the Big O is doing right now. I mean SERIOUSLY pissed off.

Poll on Yahoo's front page right now:

What issue should Obama tackle in his second term?

Gun Control Laws-------9%
Immigration Reform----9%
Reducing the Debt------82%

[XingTheRubicon]

Poll on Yahoo's front page right now:

What issue should Obama tackle in his second term?

Gun Control Laws-------9%
Immigration Reform----9%
Reducing the Debt------82%


Obama's most pressing issue


gun control------------------------------14%
reminding republicans he won---------11%
golf/vacations, smiling for no reason--9%
redistributing wealth--------------------66%
Reducing the debt-----------------------0.0 Blutarsky

[Curly Bill]

He reps T36, East Texas, Beaumont, Piney Woods area up to East Harris county. I was almost in his district...


Ralph Hall is my guy - not a bad pro-gun rep himself!

[okie52]

Obama's most pressing issue


gun control------------------------------14%
reminding republicans he won---------11%
golf/vacations, smiling for no reason--9%
redistributing wealth--------------------66%
Reducing the debt-----------------------0.0 Blutarsky

LOL