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soonercruiser

1/10/2013, 01:32 PM

Bill Clinton Named 'Father Of The Year' By National Father's Day Council
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/bill-clinton-father-of-the-year_n_2447453.html

You've have got to be f****** kidding me?????? (Did Monica have a child???)
This is how low the Left can stoop to.

Just to put this "honor" in perspective...John Edwards was the "Father of the Year" for 2007!
I wonder if they asked the women that Clinton raped-abused for an opinion??

KantoSooner

1/10/2013, 01:36 PM

Well, now just a minute Sparky. Both are fathers and were working their little hearts out trying to be fathers again, and again, and again, and again. I don't know what the standard is, but these guys were trying HARD to be fathers.

yermom

1/10/2013, 01:51 PM

um, your mouth can't get pregnant

Midtowner

1/10/2013, 01:52 PM

Yeah, so the guy got blowies from an intern about 20 years ago. I'm not sure how that's still relevant.

FaninAma

1/10/2013, 02:09 PM

Yeah, so the guy got blowies from an intern about 20 years ago. I'm not sure how that's still relevant.

If it were discovered you had done that with an intern at your job you would only be able to get a job with indigent legal aid...maybe. Plus, you would have probably had your *** sued off for sexual harrassment. No, its no big deal. Everybody should be able to get sexual favors from subordinates at work who are 30 years younger than they are. What the hell.

So, are you in favor of anybody in a position f authority being able to do what Clinton did or not?

Midtowner

1/10/2013, 02:23 PM

If it were discovered you had done that with an intern at your job you would only be able to get a job with indigent legal aid...maybe. Plus, you would have probably had your *** sued off for sexual harrassment. No, its no big deal. Everybody should be able to get sexual favors from subordinates at work who are 30 years younger than they are. What the hell.[quote]

It's not quite so simple. What happened with Clinton was purely consensual. No favors or quid pro quo or threats or anything were ever so much as alleged.

So, are you in favor of anybody in a position f authority being able to do what Clinton did or not?

I didn't say I was in favor of it, just that it was a long time ago. He betrayed his wife. I guess she forgave him for it. Lots of men cheat on their wives and continue to be perfectly respected members of society. In fact, our own Governor is an adultress, but the Christian Right supported her over other candidates. The whole Hester Prynne thing is so passé.

KantoSooner

1/10/2013, 02:36 PM

um, your mouth can't get pregnant

If you think Billy stopped at trying to shut Monica up...or stopped with Monica, period, I got a bridge to sell you.

As to that whole mess, it's not that big a deal , lots of powerful people like to 'feel the love'. It is a bit out of school to use your subordinates that way, firstly. And, secondly, it's not a real good idea to lie about it under oath. If you can't keep things from gettinig that far along, you need to make like a televangelist, come clean (ish), weep a lot. Call on your Lowered and Sayvyer, do a quick 'retreat' with the wife and Bob's Your Uncle, you'll be right as rain.

Midtowner

1/10/2013, 02:42 PM

Where I lost respect for Clinton is that he lied under oath. As an attorney, there is no greater sin.

But as a dad? I don't see what it has to do with anything.

Curly Bill

1/10/2013, 02:47 PM

Where I lost respect for Clinton is that he lied under oath. As an attorney, there is no greater sin.

But as a dad? I don't see what it has to do with anything.

Role model perhaps? I know if I had a daughter I'd want to do what Clinton did to show her that things like that are acceptible.

KantoSooner

1/10/2013, 02:49 PM

I agree that lots philander. As a dad, however, you've got a duty to try your best to launch your little copies off into the world with as good a chance at happiness as possible. Probably not a good idea to display to them that you,

A. don't give a damn about their mother's feelings
B. don't give a damn about your wedding vows
C. Will gladly put their stability and happiness at risk to satisfy a momentary physical urge
D. haven't mastered your own impulses while trying to teach them impuse control

among other less than optimal messages. So, cheat if you must, but cover it up and cover it up good. As in 'Don't get caught. Not now. Not Ever.' If you don't think you can pull that off, then don't do it.

Midtowner

1/10/2013, 02:50 PM

Role model perhaps? I know if I had a daughter I'd want to do what Clinton did to show her that things like that are acceptible.

Yeah, circa 1994 or whenever, I'd agree with you, but like I said, this was a long time ago. I doubt Chelsea spends much time on the therapists couch dealing with this issue, though I admit, I very well may be wrong. IMHO, that sin is between his family and God. Where the American people get to care is that he lied under oath and aside from his legacy being tainted and no longer being allowed to practice law in Arkansas, he got away with it.

cleller

1/10/2013, 03:31 PM

Interesting that the reasons cited (in the article) for him winning the award do not mention anything pertaining to his real life family relationship, just his philanthropy.

Given the opportunity, I would surely not buy a car, cow, or any investment requiring a level of trust from Clinton. I don't think he's built that way, he doesn't recognize those traits.

XingTheRubicon

1/10/2013, 03:35 PM

Where I lost respect for Clinton is that he lied under oath. As an attorney, there is no greater sin.

But as a dad? I don't see what it has to do with anything.

I'll go ahead and use one of your favorite lines here...read a book.

Kids absolutely soak in everything...and they remember to their dying day, your most egregious f-ups. YOUR marriage is by far the most influential example for what marriage is supposed to be.

I know it's against liberal ideals to make the more difficult choice to include total accountability in your parenting, but it is very well worth it.

Curly Bill

1/10/2013, 03:40 PM

I'll go ahead and use one of your favorite lines here...read a book.

Kids absolutely soak in everything...and they remember to their dying day, your most egregious f-ups. YOUR marriage is by far the most influential example for what marriage is supposed to be.

I know it's against liberal ideals to make the more difficult choice to include total accountability in your parenting, but it is very well worth it.

Parents, smarents! Libs think the government should raise all the little kiddies.

KantoSooner

1/10/2013, 03:46 PM

Given the opportunity, I would surely not buy a car, cow, or any investment requiring a level of trust from Clinton. I don't think he's built that way, he doesn't recognize those traits.

On the other hand, as a happily divorced guy, I'd totally invite Willy to a bbq. Here's the deal Bill, I supply the grill, the meat and the drinks, you bring the women. We'd be set for a multi-day orgy if his ticker held out.

diverdog

1/10/2013, 03:50 PM

It's official.....Cruiser is a grumpy old man.

soonercruiser

1/10/2013, 04:14 PM

Role model perhaps? I know if I had a daughter I'd want to do what Clinton did to show her that things like that are acceptible.

THIS!!!!! ^^^^^

There is no limit to the hypocrisy of the Left!!
And, they demonize and destroy a man who misspells "potatoE".

"Philanthropy"????? So I gues that makes George Soros "socialist" (oops! "Man of the year") for Western civilization???
:apple:

Bourbon St Sooner

1/10/2013, 04:30 PM

It's official.....Cruiser is a grumpy old man.

What tipped you off?

Seriously, anybody can start up a group and start handing out awards. Why is this news-worthy?

SanJoaquinSooner

1/10/2013, 04:55 PM

Chelsea is his daughter, not Monica.

KantoSooner

1/10/2013, 05:15 PM

SJS, that is certainly correct, but to what were you responding. I am most fearful to find out. I'm hoping no one ever thought that Bill was ever confused.

SanJoaquinSooner

1/10/2013, 05:36 PM

SJS, that is certainly correct, but to what were you responding. I am most fearful to find out. I'm hoping no one ever thought that Bill was ever confused.

Chelsea turned out pretty well it seems, so her parents did something right.

SanJoaquinSooner

1/10/2013, 05:38 PM

On the other hand, as a happily divorced guy, I'd totally invite Willy to a bbq. Here's the deal Bill, I supply the grill, the meat and the drinks, you bring the women. We'd be set for a multi-day orgy if his ticker held out.

Clinton would be fun to have around at a BBQ.

KantoSooner

1/10/2013, 05:39 PM

she certainly turned out better than Amy Carter. No surprise there.

But not quite up to the near-hotness of the Bush twins.

KantoSooner

1/10/2013, 05:41 PM

Clinton would be fun to have around at a BBQ.
I understand from old boys in Arkieland that Bill liked to drink bourbon on ice of an evening. I don't much like the man's politics, but you can't discard a man completely if he likes bbq and bourbon.

SanJoaquinSooner

1/10/2013, 05:51 PM

I understand from old boys in Arkieland that Bill liked to drink bourbon on ice of an evening. I don't much like the man's politics, but you can't discard a man completely if he likes bbq and bourbon.

Bet he's a good storyteller on the bourbon.

KantoSooner

1/10/2013, 05:57 PM

and with a sweet lil thang sitting on his knee as he spins his tale...

SicEmBaylor

1/10/2013, 06:15 PM

olevetonahill

1/10/2013, 06:43 PM

Chelsea is his daughter, not Monica.

Now you know why she always had that sour look on her face .

FaninAma

1/10/2013, 08:57 PM

The award didn't go to the "Best Husband" -- it went to the best father. Now, of course that's debatable, but I've always heard that Bill was an excellent father to Chelsea and much closer to her than her mother. Just because he cheats on his wife doesn't mean he's a bad father.
Sure as hell doesn't make him a good father. IMO, a cheating spouse cheats on the whole family and violates his/her vows of faith and loyalty with the children as well as the spouse being cheated on.

XingTheRubicon

1/10/2013, 09:03 PM

SanJoaquinSooner

1/10/2013, 09:09 PM

"father of the year" means for 2012 I think, not some year from the last century. I haven't heard anything about him cheating lately.

SanJoaquinSooner

1/10/2013, 09:10 PM

George Washington was named Father of our Country and he cheated on Martha.

FaninAma

1/10/2013, 09:30 PM

George Washington was named Father of our Country and he cheated on Martha.

Link? And the Colonial Inquirer doesn't count. Seriously, adulterers can be good leaders but they usually don't make good fathers. They're 2 separate issues.

Besides, I don't think George had any children.

cleller

1/10/2013, 10:20 PM

Its a BS deal, designed for publicity for both organizations. If this organization had named some hardworking guy with several kids, no one would pay attention. Bill Clinton gets their name in the papers.

For even more BS, Clinton has one 32 year old kid, what kind of challenge is that? Its like voting the bat boy into the Hall of Fame.

soonercruiser

1/11/2013, 10:51 PM

George Washington was named Father of our Country and he cheated on Martha.

This post pretty much puts into context your ability to make good analogies.

soonercruiser

1/11/2013, 10:52 PM

BILL CLINTON!
"Sperm door of the year"!
:panda:

hawaii 5-0

1/11/2013, 10:54 PM

I'd much rather go partying with Bill Clinton than duck hunting with Dlck Cheney.

5-0

olevetonahill

1/11/2013, 11:01 PM

I'd much rather go partying with Bill Clinton than duck hunting with Dlck Cheney.

5-0

Hell a few pellets never really hurt anyone.
So Lets see. Ya go Party with Klinton and get the Clap
Go Huntin whit Cheney and get a few Pellets .
Ive been hit with both, Ill take the pellets.

hawaii 5-0

1/11/2013, 11:03 PM

Just read the notice of MamaMia's passing.

I'm done posting tonite.

Later......yeah?

5-0

olevetonahill

1/11/2013, 11:19 PM

Just read the notice of MamaMia's passing.

I'm done posting tonite.

Later......yeah?

5-0

Oh Ima post, I just aint gonna be Mean tonight in her honor. She was such a sweet heart :wink:

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

1/12/2013, 12:49 AM

Sure as hell doesn't make him a good father. IMO, a cheating spouse cheats on the whole family and violates his/her vows of faith and loyalty with the children as well as the spouse being cheated on.Clinton is a disgraceful American for many reasons. a sign of the times.

cleller

1/12/2013, 10:08 AM

SanJoaquinSooner

1/12/2013, 11:08 AM

While Clinton was kicking up his heels during the Summer of Love, this is what John McCain and some other real American men were doing:

http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww14/cs6000/McCainWithSquadron_zpsbe12288d.jpg

McCain's daughter turned out well too. l'm sure he is/was a great dad.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

1/12/2013, 12:28 PM

McCain's daughter turned out well too. l'm sure he is/was a great dad.I would think you would like McCain's daughter!?

SanJoaquinSooner

1/12/2013, 01:06 PM

I would think you would like McCain's daughter!?

Yes, that's what I said - she turned out well.

rock on sooner

1/12/2013, 01:15 PM

Hell a few pellets never really hurt anyone.
So Lets see. Ya go Party with Klinton and get the Clap
Go Huntin whit Cheney and get a few Pellets .
Ive been hit with both, Ill take the pellets.

Betcher judgement wuz impaired with OVJ...should ask tha
guy that wuz huntin with Cheney, tho...

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

1/12/2013, 01:32 PM

Yes, that's what I said - she turned out well.So, you would have preferred McCain be elected in '08, rather than Obear?

XingTheRubicon

1/12/2013, 05:13 PM

Rush, why do you call Obama, Obear?

Is that supposed to mean bear, like a bear market? If that's the case, it doesn't make much sense. Just wondering...not that I like dude, just trying to figure out the reference.

SanJoaquinSooner

1/12/2013, 10:03 PM

So, you would have preferred McCain be elected in '08, rather than Obear?

I voted for HRC in the primary and I voted for McCain in the general election.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

1/13/2013, 12:53 AM

I voted for HRC in the primary and I voted for McCain in the general election.Kudos on the last part. Chump that he is, we Shirley would be better off right now if McCain would have defeated that Obear back in '08.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

1/13/2013, 12:54 AM

okiewaker

1/13/2013, 02:14 AM

Bill Clinton is scum, and those who are making excuses for him and defending him are scum.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

1/13/2013, 02:29 AM

Bill Clinton is scum, and those who are making excuses for him and defending him are scum.Whether scum or not, they are at least sadly mistaken.

olevetonahill

1/13/2013, 05:15 AM

Whether scum or not, they are at least sadly mistaken.

Aint No "NOT" to it bro the man is a ****in pig

SicEmBaylor

1/13/2013, 05:45 AM

Bill Clinton is scum, and those who are making excuses for him and defending him are scum.
Wow. They're all scum, huh? Jesus, get a grip.

Midtowner

1/13/2013, 09:11 AM

Wow. They're all scum, huh? Jesus, get a grip.

When SicEm is the voice of reason, someone's really gone over the top.

olevetonahill

1/13/2013, 09:17 AM

Wow. They're all scum, huh? Jesus, get a grip.

When SicEm is the voice of reason, someone's really gone over the top.

When You "think" hes the voice of reason you've sunk to new lows.

Klinton IS scum and Anyone defending his actions are also.

But Yall go ahead and worship a misogynist , While Condemning those of us who Joke about the Bitches .

XingTheRubicon

1/13/2013, 09:32 AM

olevetonahill

1/13/2013, 09:34 AM

diverdog

1/13/2013, 10:07 AM

diverdog

1/13/2013, 10:12 AM

While Clinton was kicking up his heels during the Summer of Love, this is what John McCain and some other real American men were doing:

http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww14/cs6000/McCainWithSquadron_zpsbe12288d.jpg

Wonder how many of those guys made it home.

McCain is a poster boy for the way a fighter jock should look. I bet he plowed a few miles of puntang in his day.

SicEmBaylor

1/13/2013, 07:01 PM

I have to agree with ya there Bro
But this is about that degenerate gettin Father of the Year award. Not His presidency.
My position is the same as Xing's. Having said that, I don't see how he was a horrible father. By all accounts he was an excellent father. His marital infidelity is a separate issue.

Look, you people would have a point if the Clinton family were a close-knit loving bunch and Clinton's affairs destroyed that. That is not the case. Hillary is as cold a hearted wench as they come; in that particular family, Clinton was the warm loving parent to Chelsea and is the one who really took care of her. Their family was not a traditionally loving group by any stretch of the imagination. The Bill and Hillary marriage was based purely on ambition and mutual political beliefs and goals.

I've read MANY MANY MANY books on the Clinton Administration and this is a fact that was observed by everyone from Richard Nixon to mid/low level staffers and journalists.

Now, I'm not a great Clinton defender. But, I consider him to be a more conservative President than George W. Bush and the results of his administration were clearly far far more successful than what we had under GW or currently have under Obama. I would take him over those two any day of the weak -- moral failings and all.

FaninAma

1/13/2013, 07:59 PM

Sic'em, once again....you cheat on your spouse you cheat on your children. I guarantee you that the children who learn one of their parents betrayed the other feel like they were betrayed, too. Sure, they get over it in time in most cases. But it leaves emotional scars that affect the ability to trust and commit to others.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

1/13/2013, 08:37 PM

As much as I hate liberals, IMO Clinton was a hell of a president (if results matter). Obviously, he was a degenerate, morally but I would take that in a heartbeat over the incompetent fool we have now.He was/is a socialist, as is Obear, but Clinton was in a different time, and his attempt to implement Hillyrcare caused the electorate to remove a significan number of socialists(democrats) from congress, and keep it that way, all throughout his presidency(how quickly many forget) Clinton was the beginning of significant moral turpitude on a widescale basis in government, IMHO. Because he wasn't willing to usurp his powers to the degree that present leadership does, he was able to benefit from a govt. ran fairly sanely(due to congress) from 1995-2000

Clinton didn't COMPLETELY ignore the laws of the land, though, when he felt like it, as is the case with current leadership. In that regard, he is better than BHO. If Hillry gets elected in '16, the country will remain on its path to tyranny.