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nutinbutdust
1/5/2013, 11:55 AM
I have said this before, I am more libertarian than anything. I read this guy's editorial and am impressed. I am not sure about his history and would have had to research more, but I might have voted for him. Is this the New Tea Party? They call it Opportunity conservatism. LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ted-cruz-gop-needs-message-of-opportunity-conservatism/2013/01/03/c9536c8e-550e-11e2-8b9e-dd8773594efc_story_1.html)



What the GOP should stand for: Opportunity

Free-market policies expand opportunity, produce prosperity and improve lives, especially for those working to climb the economic ladder.

I know this is not a theory. My dad fled torture and oppression in Cuba to come, penniless, to Texas. He washed dishes for 50 cents an hour to pay his way through college and then started a small business.

Roughly one in every 10 Hispanic households, or 2.3 million Hispanics, own small businesses.

For centuries, entre*pre*neur*ship has been the path to the American dream.

On the flip side, widespread economic redistribution places enormous burdens on small businesses, kills jobs and rarely helps the recipients of government largess.

Dependency is corrosive. Ask any abuela if she wants her grandchildren dependent on government. Dependency saps spirit and diminishes self-respect.

Americans want to stand on their own feet, and Republicans need to champion policies that enable us to do so: ownership, choice and individual responsibility.

Opportunity conservatism is a powerful frame to explain conservative policies that work. It covers the gamut of issues. Republicans shouldn’t just assail excessive financial and environmental regulations; we should explain how those regulations kill jobs and restrict Americans’ ability to buy their first home.

Don’t just say no to new taxes — fundamentally reform the tax code so that every American can file his taxes on a postcard. Eliminate the corporate welfare and complexity that enrich only accountants and lawyers.

Don’t just criticize union bosses; explain how closed shops confiscate wages and make it harder for low-skilled workers to get jobs.

Don’t talk generically about education; advocate school choice to empower parents and expand opportunity for children struggling to get ahead.

Don’t just dwell on the long-term solvency of Social Security; promote personal accounts to allow low-income Americans to accumulate wealth and pass it on to future generations.

Republicans ought to view, and explain, every policy through the lens of economic mobility. Conservative policies help those struggling to climb the economic ladder, and liberal policies hurt them. If Republicans want to win, we need to champion opportunity.

I hope this guy doesnt lose his idealism and turn into a typical crooked politician.

SanJoaquinSooner
1/5/2013, 12:23 PM
Republicans ought to view, and explain, every policy through the lens of economic mobility

Sounds like a Jack Kemp. The pubs can use more of them.

SicEmBaylor
1/5/2013, 03:50 PM
I had the opportunity to meet Cruz a handful of times when he was the state's SG. Like you, I'm a libertarian-leaning Republican. My impression of Cruz was always quite good. He's a generally very solid and reliable voice for limited-government with an exception here and there (nobody is perfect).

Cruz is definitely a guy to watch.

diverdog
1/5/2013, 04:01 PM
Sounds like a Jack Kemp. The pubs can use more of them.

How is this guy any different than the rest of the Republicans? I don't see a lick of difference. The Republicans can use less of these types.

okie52
1/5/2013, 09:13 PM
How is this guy any different than the rest of the Republicans? I don't see a lick of difference. The Republicans can use less of these types.





Heh, and I was thinking the dems could use a lot more like him.

diverdog
1/5/2013, 09:46 PM
Heh, and I was thinking the dems could use a lot more like him.


The Dems are not a dysfunctional party at this point. The national Republican Party is on the verge of a civil war and if they keep going they way they are they will be relegated to minority status.

okie52
1/5/2013, 10:20 PM
The Dems are not a dysfunctional party at this point. The national Republican Party is on the verge of a civil war and if they keep going they way they are they will be relegated to minority status.

The same could have been said about the dems not so long ago. Doesn't mean the pubs have to become dems. We don't need two "hand out parties".

diverdog
1/5/2013, 10:28 PM
The same could have been said about the dems not so long ago. Doesn't mean the pubs have to become dems. We don't need two "hand out parties".

The Republicans need to learn how to govern and control their caucus. Right now the party is nothing but divisive both inside their party and in Washington. The Tea Party will be the death of the Republican Party.

okie52
1/5/2013, 11:26 PM
The Republicans need to learn how to govern and control their caucus. Right now the party is nothing but divisive both inside their party and in Washington. The Tea Party will be the death of the Republican Party.

I don't know anything about Cruz other than his article which sounded good to me.

The pubs just need a strong candidate and the party will galvanize behind him. I was hearing the death of the dems just 10 years ago but I never believed it about them either.

The pubs are doing quite well nationally if you look at how many governorships and state legislatures they control.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/5/2013, 11:30 PM
Heh, and I was thinking the dems could use even one person somewhat remotely like him.FIFY

okie52
1/5/2013, 11:31 PM
FIFY

LOL

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/5/2013, 11:34 PM
The same could have been said about the dems not so long ago. Doesn't mean the pubs have to become dems. We don't need two "hand out parties".The dem machine, with all its influential players, has effectively destroyed conservatism as a means of running government. We are a transformed country. Conditions will develop, prolly faster rather than slower.

StoopTroup
1/6/2013, 02:18 AM
If dependency saps the human spirit then when the rich allow their families or children to inherit the estate/Business or Wealth of a self made man or woman, isn't that the same as getting dough from the government? Shouldn't everyone start out with squat?

Of course not...it's not the American way. Sometimes I truely think some folks fail to see just how hypocritical our Country has become.

Some people who are rich inheritance babies are just as worthless as some who waste our tax dollars and vice versa. The thing is that we need to continue to be generous to both views and take risks as many of them from both ways of life have surprised us and really prospered and enriched America in there own way by receiving help via private and public assistance.

Nothing is perfect but it's worked pretty well now for a long time. There have been failure, it's true but there have been successes also.

Curly Bill
1/6/2013, 02:29 AM
If dependency saps the human spirit then when the rich allow their families or children to inherit the estate/Business or Wealth of a self made man or woman, isn't that the same as getting dough from the government? Shouldn't everyone start out with squat?

Of course not...it's not the American way. Sometimes I truely think some folks fail to see just how hypocritical our Country has become.

Some people who are rich inheritance babies are just as worthless as some who waste our tax dollars and vice versa. The thing is that we need to continue to be generous to both views and take risks as many of them from both ways of life have surprised us and really prospered and enriched America in there own way by receiving help via private and public assistance.

Nothing is perfect but it's worked pretty well now for a long time. There have been failure, it's true but there have been successes also.

I'd love to hear all the stories about the folks on public assistance having enriched America. I'm sure there must be just tons of them.

SanJoaquinSooner
1/6/2013, 02:52 AM
How is this guy any different than the rest of the Republicans? I don't see a lick of difference. The Republicans can use less of these types.








every policy through the lens of economic mobility
rather than the holier-than-thou cultural conservatives

okie52
1/6/2013, 07:16 AM
Sounds like a Jack Kemp. The pubs can use more of them.

Screw jack kemp.

sappstuf
1/6/2013, 01:25 PM
How is this guy any different than the rest of the Republicans? I don't see a lick of difference. The Republicans can use less of these types.





DD doesn't like the Hispanics apparently.... Besides mowing his lawn of course.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/6/2013, 01:41 PM
DD doesn't like the Hispanics apparently.... Besides mowing his lawn of course....after all who could possibly be a bigger traitor to America than a black or hispanic constitutionalist citizen?

diverdog
1/6/2013, 02:08 PM
DD doesn't like the Hispanics apparently.... Besides mowing his lawn of course.

I hope you are being tongue in cheek? About a fifth of my family is married to folks from Mexico. Now my dog....he is a bona fide racist....hates Mexicans and Frenchman.

Curly Bill
1/6/2013, 02:18 PM
I hope you are being tongue in cheek? About a fifth of my family is married to folks from Mexico. Now my dog....he is a bona fide racist....hates Mexicans and Frenchman.

Well, who doesn't hate Frenchmen?

Turd_Ferguson
1/6/2013, 02:24 PM
Well, who doesn't have Frenchmen?

I don't have one, and I'm proud of it.

Curly Bill
1/6/2013, 02:25 PM
I don't have one, and I'm proud of it.

LOL...Ima fire my proofreader! :)

sappstuf
1/6/2013, 02:29 PM
I hope you are being tongue in cheek? About a fifth of my family is married to folks from Mexico. Now my dog....he is a bona fide racist....hates Mexicans and Frenchman.

You must have a big yard... ;)

jk the sooner fan
1/6/2013, 02:31 PM
if he's the first, what is Mark Rubio?

diverdog
1/6/2013, 03:02 PM
You must have a big yard... ;)

No they married their maids. LOL

diverdog
1/6/2013, 03:07 PM
Well, who doesn't hate Frenchmen?

I have a Brittany which were originally bred in Brittany France. My wife is a French teacher and we had her friend who was from Brittany France stay with us and my dog could not stand him. No idea why but we had to keep him in the kennel for most of the stay. His hatred of Mexican's is a little more understandable. One of the migrant workers near my home tried to pet him him and in his drunken state ended up falling on my dog. Every since then my dog has been on tear against Mexicans. He friggin hates them.

SicEmBaylor
1/6/2013, 04:50 PM
I spent a month in France. There is absolutely no limit to my hatred of that **** hole nation or its people.

Having said that, the people of Brittany and Normandy are definitely better than the average. I think it's because of their proximity to Britain and the fact that parts were ruled by Britain for so long. It gave them a dose of good behavior and honor.

By and large though there is no love lost between France and I. My opinion after coming home is that not one single American life was worth sacrificing in France's defense.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/6/2013, 05:13 PM
Joan of Snark?

FaninAma
1/6/2013, 05:25 PM
The Republicans need to learn how to govern and control their caucus. Right now the party is nothing but divisive both inside their party and in Washington. The Tea Party will be the death of the Republican Party.
No it won't. The death of the party will be due to the old guard Republicans trying to maintain the status quo which will drive those who support the Tea Party to look for other allternatives.


there is a reason the left and their lackeys in the media have attacked the Tea Party with all the ferocity they can muster......they fear them because they aren't the usual compromising, mealy-mouthed Republicans they are used to dealing with.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/6/2013, 06:06 PM
No it won't. The death of the party will be due to the old guard Republicans trying to maintain the status quo which will drive those who support the Tea Party to look for other allternatives.


there is a reason the left and their lackeys in the media have attacked the Tea Party with all the ferocity they can muster......they fear them because they aren't the usual compromising, mealy-mouthed Republicans they are used to dealing with.Of course. The D's on this board know it, too. But, they post the opposite, since their game of deceit is always ON!

diverdog
1/6/2013, 06:40 PM
No it won't. The death of the party will be due to the old guard Republicans trying to maintain the status quo which will drive those who support the Tea Party to look for other allternatives.


there is a reason the left and their lackeys in the media have attacked the Tea Party with all the ferocity they can muster......they fear them because they aren't the usual compromising, mealy-mouthed Republicans they are used to dealing with.

Fanin:

You cannot run a government with rigid ideology. The only time that happens is when you have a dictatorship.....a real one.

This entire focus of cutting the government is wrong headed in my mind. Our first and only priority is to grow the economy. In the long run that will cure a lot of our ills. You cannot cut enough to balance the budget.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/6/2013, 07:31 PM
Fanin:

This entire focus of cutting the government is wrong headed in my mind. Our first and only priority is to grow the economy. In the long run that will cure a lot of our ills. You cannot cut enough to balance the budget.Do you really not think conservatives believe, and because it's been proven, that cutting govt. spending, and lowering taxes is what causes economic growth? If you believe the opposite, you are simply wrong. To follow socialists like FDR and Obear is not to behave rationally.

trwxxa
1/6/2013, 09:42 PM
Cruz is tea party to the core and that is what got him elected.

diverdog
1/6/2013, 09:47 PM
Do you really not think conservatives believe, and because it's been proven, that cutting govt. spending, and lowering taxes is what causes economic growth? If you believe the opposite, you are simply wrong. To follow socialists like FDR and Obear is not to behave rationally.

Do you have a shred of proof?

And here is the budget since 1998. It sure as sh*t looks like the Republicans can't control spending as well:



2013 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_United_States_federal_budget) - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2012 by President Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama))[123] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget#cite_note-123)
2012 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_federal_budget) - $3.7 trillion (submitted 2011 by President Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama))
2011 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_States_federal_budget) - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama))
2010 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget) - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama))
2009 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_federal_budget) - $3.1 trillion (submitted 2008 by President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush))
2008 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_federal_budget) - $2.9 trillion (submitted 2007 by President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush))
2007 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_federal_budget) - $2.8 trillion (submitted 2006 by President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush))
2006 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_United_States_federal_budget) - $2.7 trillion (submitted 2005 by President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush))
2005 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_United_States_federal_budget) - $2.4 trillion (submitted 2004 by President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush))
2004 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_federal_budget) - $2.3 trillion (submitted 2003 by President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush))
2003 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_United_States_federal_budget) - $2.2 trillion (submitted 2002 by President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush))
2002 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_United_States_federal_budget) - $2.0 trillion (submitted 2001 by President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush))
2001 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_United_States_federal_budget) - $1.9 trillion (submitted 2000 by President Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton))
2000 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_federal_budget) - $1.8 trillion (submitted 1999 by President Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton))
1999 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_United_States_federal_budget) - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1998 by President Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton))
1998 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_United_States_federal_budget) - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1997 by President Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton))
1997 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_United_States_federal_budget) - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1996 by President Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton))
1996 United States federal budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_federal_budget) - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1995 by President Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton))

soonercruiser
1/6/2013, 09:53 PM
Fanin:

You cannot run a government with rigid ideology. The only time that happens is when you have a dictatorship.....a real one.

This entire focus of cutting the government is wrong headed in my mind. Our first and only priority is to grow the economy. In the long run that will cure a lot of our ills. You cannot cut enough to balance the budget.

I guess that is the reason Obummer is leading from behind......no leadership shown by him!

But, he sure is trying to the dictator.

diverdog
1/6/2013, 10:49 PM
I spent a month in France. There is absolutely no limit to my hatred of that **** hole nation or its people.

Having said that, the people of Brittany and Normandy are definitely better than the average. I think it's because of their proximity to Britain and the fact that parts were ruled by Britain for so long. It gave them a dose of good behavior and honor.

By and large though there is no love lost between France and I. My opinion after coming home is that not one single American life was worth sacrificing in France's defense.

I never had any trouble in France. Do you speak French?