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Sabanball
1/1/2013, 07:33 PM
Just like the Scott Hill stick on Tony Dorsett over 35 yrs ago,there was a hit today in the outback bowl that will be talked about for decades also when Jadaveon Clowney absolutely decapitated a Michigan player...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W26Dcns1Mxg#!

Breadburner
1/1/2013, 07:34 PM
Not even close to the Scotty Hill hit....

Wishboned
1/1/2013, 07:39 PM
It was a nice hit...but...

Jadeveon Clowney is no Scotty Hill and Vincent Smith is damned sure no Tony Dorsett.

StoopTroup
1/1/2013, 07:39 PM
Not even close to the Scotty Hill hit....

Thank you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqYOSgD2CMw

Sabanball
1/1/2013, 07:40 PM
Not even close to the Scotty Hill hit....


No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys.

Wishboned
1/1/2013, 07:42 PM
Why don't you go preach that SEC **** where someone gives a ****?

bluedogok
1/1/2013, 07:50 PM
Helmets fly off all the time now because many guys seem to be afraid to have them on tight anymore. It doesn't take much of a hit to shake one off a head these days.

StoopTroup
1/1/2013, 07:54 PM
No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys.

It's complete disrespect to Hill. Scott hit Dorsett so hard Pitt took him out of the Game. They were afraid he would get hurt. OU Owned Pitt that Day. Also was the first OU Game I ever got to go to. 17 yards for Tony D that day.

Soonerwake
1/1/2013, 08:09 PM
No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys.

Of course, he's from the SEC... Your shtick is annoying. Go home...

Widescreen
1/1/2013, 08:15 PM
No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys.

Hill didn't have 60 pounds on Dorsett.

okiewaker
1/1/2013, 08:27 PM
Heh,,,Hill knocked Dorsett into Tuesdays mornings math class.

StoopTroup
1/1/2013, 08:32 PM
Hill hit Dorsett so hard that Tony's Heisman Trophy has it's eyes closed.

Aries
1/1/2013, 08:38 PM
Hill went over a blocker to hit Dorsett. Clowney wasn't blocked at all.

Boomer Mooner
1/1/2013, 08:40 PM
No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys.

Not only did he send a helmet 5 yds in the opposite direction, Dorsett was still attached to it.

8timechamps
1/1/2013, 08:41 PM
I saw that happen live, and I've watched the replay probably 10 times...what in the hell was the offensive tackle and tight end doing on that play? Go to the 0:37 mark...they (the OT &TE) were on completely separate plays. The tackle goes to block down on the nose, and the tight end releases. I'm going to assume the TE blew the call, since it was a run play. Either way, you don't screw up that badly against a guy like Clowney and expect nothing to happen.

The hit was hard, but it was more a product of nobody blocking him (literally). Sad.

okiewaker
1/1/2013, 08:46 PM
No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys.

Hill didn't send a helmet 5 yds in the opposite direction,,,,he sent Dorsett's body 5 yds in the opposite direction.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/1/2013, 08:54 PM
Why don't you go preach that SEC **** where someone gives a ****?doesn't really entertain much, does it?

VA Sooner
1/1/2013, 08:58 PM
Not only did he send a helmet 5 yds in the opposite direction, Dorsett was still attached to it.

Ha! Damn funny.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/1/2013, 08:58 PM
as much as I meh on meatchicken, and as much as I like coach whazzisface at So. Carolina, i was still pulling for the overglorified Blue to win the game.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/1/2013, 09:02 PM
No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys. That's right, HOW ABOUT dem LSU Tigahs!?!?!?

picasso
1/1/2013, 09:08 PM
Nobody will be talking about that hit. Even in China.

sooneredaco
1/1/2013, 09:08 PM
Still yet... That was a solid hit. Boom goes the dynamite!

StoopTroup
1/1/2013, 09:10 PM
I THINK HE BROKE HIS EFFIN" NECK! ! !

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/i4qECNoUIdM/mqdefault.jpg

Wishboned
1/1/2013, 09:10 PM
doesn't really entertain much, does it?

It gets old constantly hearing about the SuckEveryone'sCock conference.

picasso
1/1/2013, 09:11 PM
It gets old constantly hearing about the SuckEveryone'sCock conference.
Exactly! Great hit but the original post is almost Aggy.

Wishboned
1/1/2013, 09:14 PM
Exactly! Great hit but the original post is almost Aggy.

It's jealousy. "Hey look guys. This hit against a no name is almost as good as that one your guy had 35 years ago against a Heisman winner. Look at our conference! Look at our conference!"

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/1/2013, 09:25 PM
It's jealousy. "Hey look guys. This hit against a no name is almost as good as that one your guy had 35 years ago against a Heisman winner. Look at our conference! Look at our conference!""Stop bedowngrading the South, arready. We're the best football, nananananana. We win after all. nananananana"

jkjsooner
1/1/2013, 10:26 PM
I don't think the helmet flying backwards is that big of a deal. If you get your head under the face mask you can pop a helmet off. That being said, although he wasn't blocked, it was very impressive how quickly Clowney got that deep into the backfield.

StoopTroup
1/1/2013, 10:29 PM
When you knockout the opposing Teams most important player and they take him out of the damn game.....knocking a guys helmet off is pretty lame.....

StoopTroup
1/1/2013, 10:31 PM
Also SabanBall....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGjwS0q7KDY

Salt City Sooner
1/2/2013, 12:06 AM
Hill's hit was more spectacular (mainly due to the jumping factor) but for pure brute force, I'll take the 0:43 second mark:

3s4gfsVbSi8

Widescreen
1/2/2013, 02:00 AM
Hill's hit was more spectacular (mainly due to the jumping factor) but for pure brute force, I'll take the 0:43 second mark:

3s4gfsVbSi8

I was at that game. Man was that a hit!

Seamus
1/2/2013, 02:13 AM
Two things.

First:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn44lp1BGuo


Second:

You SEC fans remind me of a porn starlet in a bukkake film. You're having a real nice time SEC-ing everyone off, but you never realize how sad and pitiable you are to the rest of the human race.

sussudio
1/2/2013, 03:14 AM
Amen

sussudio
1/2/2013, 03:17 AM
Why don't you go preach that SEC **** where someone gives a ****?
Amen to that

SoonerMarkVA
1/2/2013, 08:52 AM
Not only did he send a helmet 5 yds in the opposite direction, Dorsett was still attached to it.

WINNAH!

stoops the eternal pimp
1/2/2013, 09:25 AM
Helmets fly off all the time now because many guys seem to be afraid to have them on tight anymore. It doesn't take much of a hit to shake one off a head these days.

this here...great play from a great player in clowney, but i've seen ankle tackles result in a helmet loss this season.

jkjsooner
1/2/2013, 02:07 PM
I'm curious why USC was allowed to recover that ball. Shouldn't the play have been dead immediately after the runner's helmet popped off?

I suppose you could argue that the runner never possessed the ball or the helmet popped off after the possession was lost.

picasso
1/2/2013, 02:19 PM
When you knockout the opposing Teams most important player and they take him out of the damn game.....knocking a guys helmet off is pretty lame.....

Not to mention that TD is considered one of the greatest players of all time.

Wishboned
1/2/2013, 02:37 PM
Not to mention that TD is considered one of the greatest players of all time.

Tony Dorsett. What he's remembered for Heisman winner. College and Pro Football Hall of Fame. Longest run from scrimmage in the NFL (99 yards)

Vincent Smith. What he'll be remembered for...


Scott Hill in 1976 - 5'11" 192 lbs.
vs
Tony Dorsett in 1976 - 5'11" 192 lbs.

Vincent Smith - 5'6" 176 lbs
vs
Jadeveon Clowney - 6'6" 256 lbs.

Tony Dorsett being knocked on his *** by Scott Hill after getting a head of steam towards the line of scrimmage

vs

Vincent Smith getting knocked on his *** basically standing still by an unblocked Jadaveon Clowney.

Oh yeah. Completely comparable.

HToady
1/2/2013, 03:23 PM
Thank you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqYOSgD2CMw

I've seen silent movies that were clearer. Have we come that far?

EatLeadCommie
1/2/2013, 04:03 PM
It was a great play by Clowney, and one that South Carolina fans will talk about for years because an 11 win season is a big deal there.

The Hill hit is legendary because of who it came against and the spectacular fashion in which it happened-- with him leaping OVER a defender, flying 3-4 yards in the air, and still retaining enough force by the end of that flight to knock Dorsett the F out.

EatLeadCommie
1/2/2013, 04:05 PM
I've seen silent movies that were clearer. Have we come that far?

I don't think the game was televised. I think that clip comes from film study and was filmed for the team.

usmc-sooner
1/2/2013, 06:48 PM
Scott is a normal name, not just a bunch of letters thrown together. I'll take an J and D and buy four vowels and just put them where ever.

Stupid SEC names.

cleller
1/2/2013, 07:09 PM
No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys.

Nyah. Its a great hit and all that, but most of it is one helmet bouncing off another.

cleller
1/2/2013, 07:10 PM
Scott is a normal name, not just a bunch of letters thrown together. I'll take an J and D and buy four vowels and just put them where ever.

Stupid SEC names.

I believe he is named after Jay Leno, Dave Letterman, and the opposite of "off".

CowboyMRW
1/2/2013, 11:39 PM
Bama: ?
UGa: 31 (W)
UF: 30 and counting (L?)
LSU: 25 (L)
anm: ?
SC: 28 (W)
Ole Miss: ?
MSU: 34 (L)
Vandy: 24 (W)

These are some great defenses that the SEC has. Looks like when someone has a QB they can put up points in the mighty SEC. Who would've thunk such a thing.

70sooner
1/3/2013, 07:51 AM
Hill hit Dorsett so hard that Tony's Heisman Trophy has it's eyes closed.


Hill hit Tony Dorsett so hard even Chuck Norris smiled.....

sooneron
1/3/2013, 08:06 AM
Clowney's play was very impressive. However, the runner probably had one eye (or two) on the hand off. He was not prepared for the hit. Clowney gained leverage by having the lower center of gravity. Running backs, never are at their natural rushing stance when taking a hand off (They are more upright). Dorsett was lower to the ground as Hill was pretty much airborne going over a blocker. Dorsett had already taken a few steps after receiving the ball. Hill's hit was more impressive when you add all of this up plus the weight differential not being any different.

olevetonahill
1/3/2013, 08:57 AM
But Yall must of missed that Great Fl. D last night , They were so dayum good They knocked Bridgewaters Hat off 3 er 4 times .
Yall quit bedowngradin those Great SEC D's

Wishboned
1/3/2013, 09:05 AM
But Yall must of missed that Great Fl. D last night , They were so dayum good They knocked Bridgewaters Hat off 3 er 4 times .
Yall quit bedowngradin those Great SEC D's

Yeah but the hat they knocked off was the Sugar Bowl Champion hat, and it was after the game.

cleller
1/3/2013, 09:19 AM
Clowney's play was very impressive. However, the runner probably had one eye (or two) on the hand off. He was not prepared for the hit. Clowney gained leverage by having the lower center of gravity. Running backs, never are at their natural rushing stance when taking a hand off (They are more upright). Dorsett was lower to the ground as Hill was pretty much airborne going over a blocker. Dorsett had already taken a few steps after receiving the ball. Hill's hit was more impressive when you add all of this up plus the weight differential not being any different.

Correct.
If you examine the Clowney hit, you will see that his forward motion was achieved while both feet were in contact with the ground at least 50% of the time, allowing his calves, thighs and glutes to exert force in the direction of the hit. Coupled with his lower center of gravity, and following pythagorim theorem, his was able to expend 1Kg-M/S2 of Newtonian force with every step leading up to the hit. Combined with the RBs closing speed, this resulted in an impact coefficient of: V+2/z4y/x2m.

On the hit by Hill, Dorsett had already achieved enough inertia and velocity to have shrugged off a similar hit. Hill, however took advantage of even greater velocity, combined with gravitational dynamics in his launch toward Dorsett. Prior to hitting Dorsett he had managed to achieve 6Kg-M/S2 of Newtonian force, then heightened it with a further twist of his torso to pack a wallop of 8.2V/s2+9@#!! per joule.

So you see, the Clowney hit, while dramatic, is hardly comparable to the superhuman effort of Sooner Scott Hill.

Wishboned
1/3/2013, 09:21 AM
Correct.
If you examine the Clowney hit, you will see that his forward motion was achieved while both feet were in contact with the ground at least 50% of the time, allowing his calves, thighs and glutes to exert force in the direction of the hit. Coupled with his lower center of gravity, and following pythagorim theorem, his was able to expend 1Kg-M/S2 of Newtonian force with every step leading up to the hit. Combined with the RBs closing speed, this resulted in an impact coefficient of: V+2/z4y/x2m.

On the hit by Hill, Dorsett had already achieved enough inertia and velocity to have shrugged off a similar hit. Hill, however took advantage of even greater velocity, combined with gravitational dynamics in his launch toward Dorsett. Prior to hitting Dorsett he had managed to achieve 6Kg-M/S2 of Newtonian force, then heightened it with a further twist of his torso to pack a wallop of 8.2V/s2+9@#!! per joule.

So you see, the Clowney hit, while dramatic, is hardly comparable to the superhuman effort of Sooner Scott Hill.

SCIENCE!!!

CowboyMRW
1/3/2013, 09:47 AM
Correct.
If you examine the Clowney hit, you will see that his forward motion was achieved while both feet were in contact with the ground at least 50% of the time, allowing his calves, thighs and glutes to exert force in the direction of the hit. Coupled with his lower center of gravity, and following pythagorim theorem, his was able to expend 1Kg-M/S2 of Newtonian force with every step leading up to the hit. Combined with the RBs closing speed, this resulted in an impact coefficient of: V+2/z4y/x2m.

The Pythagorean Theorem doesn't apply here. It is a^2+b^2=c^2. This equation has nothing to do with physics.

sooneron
1/3/2013, 09:50 AM
http://images2.mtv.com/uri/mgid:file:docroot:vh1.com:/sitewide/flipbooks/img/shows/one_hit_wonders/2113.jpg?width=315&height=210&enlarge=true&matte=true&matteColor=black&quality=0.85

Science!

Widescreen
1/3/2013, 09:52 AM
The Pythagorean Theorem doesn't apply here. It is a^2+b^2=c^2. This equation has nothing to do with physics.

Mr Serious is serious

olevetonahill
1/3/2013, 09:56 AM
The Pythagorean Theorem doesn't apply here. It is a^2+b^2=c^2. This equation has nothing to do with physics.

I got yer Python Right here.

cleller
1/3/2013, 10:07 AM
The Pythagorean Theorem doesn't apply here. It is a^2+b^2=c^2. This equation has nothing to do with physics.

I did not show the pythagorean calculations for brevity. This is the resultant calculusian exprapulationism of the propulsion dynamics at play. I also used some of the Python-Dimsdale Theorem to analyze Hill's machismo coefficient, which is far greater than that Clowney guy.

sooneron
1/3/2013, 11:11 AM
Winnar^

soonertodd
1/3/2013, 01:11 PM
No disrespect to Hill and how he plowed Dorsett straight into the ground, but he didn't send a helmet flying 5 yds in the opposite direction like Clowney did. This guy is a man among boys.

No disrespect to current players but back then players knew how to properly strap their dam helmets on,And especially when you played OKLAHOMA! Notice how well a job Dorsett did? Kept his body attatched to it very well.

! love Scott Hill but the hardest i ever saw someone get hit was Kelly Phelps on a kick return against Neb in 78.I thought i just saw someone die.Brutal hit, I wll see if i can post it.it's on youtube

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/3/2013, 01:16 PM
I believe he is named after Jay Leno, Dave Letterman, and the opposite of "off".SU-WEEEET!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/3/2013, 01:20 PM
I got yer Python Right here.Signature material. Copyright it!

sooneron
1/3/2013, 01:26 PM
cw4OKUgBciE

3 big ones in one game

Midtowner
1/3/2013, 01:29 PM
Greatest hit ever? Man among boys? No. Clowney was *unblocked*. Not that he's not talented as heck, but if you give a talented player no blockers to avoid and a free shot at the running back, it's going to be a big hit. Hill on the other hand shot through a blocker for his hit. I'm going with Hill here and it's not close. Clowney's hit didn't require any kind of exceptional or amazing athleticism like Hill's did.

soonertodd
1/3/2013, 01:41 PM
link for video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkwVy3uKE4A

Johnny Utah
1/3/2013, 02:06 PM
Scott is a normal name, not just a bunch of letters thrown together. I'll take an J and D and buy four vowels and just put them where ever.

Stupid SEC names.


I believe he is named after Jay Leno, Dave Letterman, and the opposite of "off".

Hey but if you're name is something like Robert an ESPN brother will accuse you of not keepin' it real

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/3/2013, 02:07 PM
link for video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkwVy3uKE4Anow we got bugeaters on the board! how fun!

Widescreen
1/3/2013, 02:51 PM
link for video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkwVy3uKE4A

That was a huge hit. I didn't realize Phelps was a kick returner as a frosh.

soonertodd
1/3/2013, 03:42 PM
now we got bugeaters on the board! how fun!
not a bugeater buddy.,but give props where they are due and that was a MASSIVE hit.I still respect the great games we had with the huskers in the 70"s and 80's. Phelps turned out ok as a QB

soonertodd
1/3/2013, 03:44 PM
Oh,i negged ya back too

stoops the eternal pimp
1/3/2013, 04:19 PM
link for video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkwVy3uKE4A

Oh my dear lowered!

jkjsooner
1/3/2013, 04:28 PM
link for video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkwVy3uKE4A

Wow that was a hit. Also NU got shafted on that play. I guess it didn't matter since they won the game.

I don't remember that game but I do remember the rematch in the Orange Bowl.

In fact that might be the first OU game I remember. My dad must have indoctrinated me somewhere between that game and the rematch. I distinctly remember thinking that OU and NU always played in the Orange Bowl...

cleller
1/3/2013, 07:04 PM
Wow that was a hit. Also NU got shafted on that play. I guess it didn't matter since they won the game.

I don't remember that game but I do remember the rematch in the Orange Bowl.

In fact that might be the first OU game I remember. My dad must have indoctrinated me somewhere between that game and the rematch. I distinctly remember thinking that OU and NU always played in the Orange Bowl...

Had not heard Kelly Phelps name in ages. I had a class with him and Terry Crouch in 1980. Crouch died in 2011, but I've never heard the cause. Only "after a long illness". He was quiet, seemed like a nice guy. Two time All-American.

EatLeadCommie
1/3/2013, 07:29 PM
I was trying to remember what game and player it was because I knew one of our own had been popped really good and it was the Kelly Phelps hit. Just brutal.

8timechamps
1/3/2013, 07:49 PM
link for video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkwVy3uKE4A

That was back in the days of no instant replay.

Damn, I had forgotten about that hit. That was big time. KO and punt returners have to be a little crazy (at least before things changed so much).

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/3/2013, 08:10 PM
Oh,i negged ya back tooIDC. The bugeater promo video was what did it. I apologize for namecalling, but that's how it looked at the time. Don't be too surprised if you get more for that post.

olevetonahill
1/3/2013, 08:15 PM
Heh, we aint had a Good neg fest in awhile here

Turd_Ferguson
1/3/2013, 08:35 PM
Some of us have...

olevetonahill
1/3/2013, 08:47 PM
Some of us have...

Im jealous

Turd_Ferguson
1/3/2013, 08:49 PM
Im jealous

That's what she said you said...

olevetonahill
1/3/2013, 08:56 PM
That's what she said you said...

But I got mine so I dont GAS what she says

Turd_Ferguson
1/3/2013, 09:14 PM
ROTFL...

olevetonahill
1/3/2013, 10:08 PM
ROTFL...

:very_drunk:

bluedogok
1/3/2013, 11:24 PM
Had not heard Kelly Phelps name in ages. I had a class with him and Terry Crouch in 1980. Crouch died in 2011, but I've never heard the cause. Only "after a long illness". He was quiet, seemed like a nice guy. Two time All-American.
I played golf with Kelly a few times out at Hefner in the mid-80's, he was a pretty decent golfer. I always gave him a hard time about the PC-PC West 1977 4A Championship Game at Taft, he was knocked out (literally) of the game in OT but PC ended up pulling it out 21-14. PCW QB Scott Tinsley ended up at USC.