Kerry as Sect of State...

[Soonerjeepman]

like a lot of other politicians...dems and pubs...he has some big time baggage. For the supporters of obama and his dems, how do you justify this nomination, when HE in fact did NOT sign the letter asking obama to investigate companies that violated the Iran sanctions?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/kerry-has-investments-companies-accused-violating-iran-sanctions_690894.html

"“Recently, after 50 lawmakers from both parties complained to President Obama about the lack of enforcement and sent him a list of companies that apparently violated the law, the State Department announced a preliminary investigation. Officials said that they were looking at 27 deals, and that while some appeared to have been ‘carefully constructed’ to get around the letter of the law, they had identified a number of problematic cases and were focusing on companies still active in Iran," the New York Times reported then.

Senator Kerry did not sign the letter asking the Obama administration to investigate Iran sanctions violators

[KantoSooner]

Kerry will be a step up from Hillary as far as who I dislike is concerned. He'll be competent, but prone to getting his dick handed to him on a periodic basis by people like Putin.

[Curly Bill]

Yep, Hillary or Kerry, same old sh*t, so no big deal.

[olevetonahill]

He should name hanoi jane as Sec.Def.

[nutinbutdust]

Why Hanoi Jane would be better Or some of Kerry's baggage...

John Kerry Slandered an American Hero (http://townhall.com/columnists/humbertofontova/2012/12/21/john-kerry-slandered-an-american-hero-n1471741/page/full/) Full article below.

During solemn hearings on the floor of the U.S. Senate investigating drugs and terrorism a swarthy Hispanic who landed on U.S. shores with the clothes on his back and was graciously put on the path to U.S. citizenship repeatedly insulted a U.S. Senator who was also a highly decorated war veteran, an Ivy League graduate and a scion of a wealthy and politically-connected American family. The smartmouthed Latino was accused of drug-running and money-laundering to finance terrorists. He was testifying under oath –sneeringly and with a heavy Spanish accent-- upon a subpoena by lawmakers of the nation that had shown him unlimited generosity.

Mere minutes into the confrontation the swarthy Latino’s arrogance, testy rebuttals and steely stare had reduced the lanky New England millionaire-aristocrat to nervous stuttering between shifty glances.

Just the thing to get those Teabillies and Red-State yahoos to briefly drop their guns and Bibles grab their tar, feathers, torches, pitchforks and rope, right? Then bawl for the uppity Latino’s head! Right?

Just the thing to warm the hearts of America’s “party of diversity,” right? Just the thing to delight those enemies of the “one-percenter” and “champion of Hispanics” right?

Here was “Yes we can!” (Si se Puede!) with bells on! Right?

HAH! Think again. The accused “Latino”, you see, was Cuban-American freedom-fighter, Che Guevara captor (and Republican) Felix Rodriguez. The accuser was Senator John Kerry. The setting was the 1987 "Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics, and International Operations," shortly known as “The Kerry Committee” which became the opening act for what shortly came to be known as the “Iran-Contra Hearings.”

So the reactions were exactly reversed. The liberal lynch–mob (Democrats/Media) hailed the New England (inherited) millionaire and bawled for the uppity “Latino“ refugee to be (figuratively) strung up-- and burned afterwards for good measure. Only the liberals’ torches and pitchforks were missing. Some background:
On the day he gained his U.S. citizenship in 1969 Felix Rodriguez celebrated the honor by volunteering for armed action in Viet-Nam. He flew over 300 helicopter combat missions in Viet-Nam, and was shot down five times. He won the coveted Intelligence Star for Valor from the CIA and nine Crosses for Gallantry from the Republic of South Vietnam. Later he battled Communists in El Salvador using a helicopter "mobile strike unit" scheme he developed in Viet-Nam. He flew over 100 combat missions in Central America, captured the FMLF's top commander and helped crush those Communist- terrorists decisively. All this was volunteer work. Earlier as a CIA operative, Rodriguez played a key role in tracking down and capturing Che Guevara in Bolivia.

Rodriguez was flying combat missions in El Salvador the summer of 1987 when his wife called to say his name was splashed all over the Miami Herald as a cocaine smuggler for the Nicaraguan Contras-- and one who reports to Vice President Bush!

"Forget it," he laughed. "Who's gonna believe such garbage?" But as always with Liberal slanders, they have a life of their own. The smear spread through the Beltway media like wildfire.

A subpoena from the Kerry Committee shortly hit the Rodriguez’ Miami doorstep. "Great!" whooped Felix while flying back from the Central American war. "I'll be happy to tell a Congressional Committee everything--but I insist on open hearings.”

The slanders then taking Rodriguez away from the field against Communists to attempt to clear his name and honor originated at the Kerry Committee's last "closed" hearing. Here a convicted drug smuggler sentenced to 46 years in Federal prison (and who later flunked several polygraph tests) made the outrageous charges against Rodriguez and Vice President Bush. Next day they were all over the Beltway media. Rodriguez noticed that the Miami Herald mentioned, "unnamed congressional sources," for its slanders. Kerry Committee leaks anyone?

Also note the date, summer of 1987. Shortly George Bush would wage an electoral campaign against Kerry's friend and political ally, Michael Dukakis (Kerry had served as Lieutenant Governor for this famous tank commander.)

Miami area lawyers, knowing Rodriguez' honorable reputation, tripped over themselves clamoring to represent him pro-bono during the Kerry Committee hearings. "I don't want any lawyers!" Felix responded. "If I need a lawyer to help me explain why I've been defending this country for the past 27 years--then I'm in the wrong country! I want my testimony in front of the American people!"

More alarmingly (to Democrats) Rodriguez refused what weasel types call "immunity."

You can imagine Kerry's forehead furrowing and a few nervous coughs behind the hand at the news. Nothing so unnerves a big-haired, blow-dried Congressional Committee like spunk, courage, honesty, straight talk.

So naturally Kerry denied Rodriguez' request for an open hearing. If Rodriguez cleared his name, if he shot down his Committee's cockamamie accusations--by God, Kerry certainly didn't want it getting any circulation! The Kerry Committee--and The Kerry Committee alone-- using leaks to their press cronies, would decide exactly what got in the newspapers and evening news.

"Senator, my name was leaked by your Committee as being involved with drug smuggling," Rodriguez started his testimony. "I take that very seriously. It affects my family and my reputation."

Kerry furrowed his (now) famous forehead and affected a stern look "You're making serious accusations here...."

"Senator this slander was in every g*dd*mmed newspaper after your committee's last closed hearing." Rodriguez shot back, "saying I solicited drug money for the Contras. That, Senator Kerry, is a d*amned lie!"

Kerry's forehead furrowed further. He stuttered. He started rambling well off the subject, asking Rodriguez about Che Guevara’s capture and why he hadn't fought harder to save his life, etc. (what this had to do with the hearings has never been explained.)

"SENATOR!" an exasperated Rodriguez finally shot back. "It's difficult for me to answer questions from a man I DO NOT RESPECT!"

Kerry gaped. A northeastern liberal Democrat he'd always been a media darling, soft-soaped and soft- balled by the media. Now some Cuban refugee had him seriously rattled. But Rodriguez didn't miss a beat --naming dates and witnesses, citing documents--he proceeded to demolish every accusation against him.

"I have nothing to hide," Rodriguez said repeatedly. "I'm not ashamed of anything I've done. I've battled communism since I was 17. I help the Contras, the Salvadoran government. I do so as a volunteer, legally and openly. And if you're sincere, senator," he finished up. "You'll put out a statement to the press about what I said here today. I insist that the American people know about my testimony!"

No such statement ever issued from Kerry's Committee. So two months later Rodriguez called a press conference in Miami to tell his side.

A full year after leaking the slanders against Rodriguez and after the treacherous, lying swine who made them failed three polygraph tests, The Kerry Committee finally saw fit to allow Rodriguez' year-long request for an open hearing. They scheduled him as the fifth witness at 5 in the afternoon when the Senate chamber was devoid of reporters and TV cameras. In the near-empty room, Kerry finally mumbled a half-hearted apology.

But as Rodriguez writes "whether by design or coincidence, allegations about me and drug smuggling and Vice President Bush kept popping up in the press right up until election day 1988." And the Miami Herald kept mentioning those "unnamed Congressional sources."

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Kerry and/or his wife has interests in businesses that have violated the Iran trade ban...

[olevetonahill]

Kerry is lower than whale shat

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Kerry is lower than whale shatWhat's the name of that gargantuan sea of weird gelatinous? goo that's actually on the ocean floor? Ahh, the Abyssal Plain!

Kerry is a hyperactive sponge in the Abyssal Plain

[lexsooner]

I always thought Kerry was sleazy, and then I learned from personal experience that it was true during my Dept. Of Justice days. I swore I would never vote for him when he ran for Prez, and even though nitwit w was the opponent, I held true to my pledge and left the prez selection empty. I never liked how they ran Kerry's war record down, though, especially by a bunch of draft dodging chicken hawk cowards like rove. Kerry was a war hero, period. He is also a sleaze bag.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Hooboy!








effing WOW!

[rock on sooner]

You guys on the right certainly do not disappoint. Obama could have
nominated Jesus and some of you would find fault.

[olevetonahill]

You guys on the right certainly do not disappoint. Obama could have
nominated Jesus and some of you would find fault.

naw I kinda Like jesus what little I know of him . This Kerry dude, Never have had much use fer him

[soonercruiser]

Didn't Kerry throw his military medals away?
Will he be looking for them the whole time he is Sec State?
:disturbed:

[lexsooner]

Didn't Kerry throw his military medals away?
Will he be looking for them the whole time he is Sec State?
:disturbed:

I don't like the guy, but I would never try and judge or worse criticize someone who has been in combat as to why he did something like this. I have no right nor does anyone else.

[olevetonahill]

I don't like the guy, but I would never try and judge or worse criticize someone who has been in combat as to why he did something like this. I have no right nor does anyone else.

I do
**** him, He beached his boat endangering his crew to chase down a wounded kid and kill him. Just to get another medal that he threw away in protest. The other 6 er so guys on his boat were sittin ducks while he played hero

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You guys on the right certainly do not disappoint. Obama could have
nominated Jesus and some of you would find fault.I don't think that's a good example. Jesus isn't known to be an outlaw, nor an out-of-control vote buyer, let alone with other people's money.

[SCOUT]

You guys on the right certainly do not disappoint. Obama could have
nominated Jesus and some of you would find fault.

You have a point. However the fact that you directed it at those on the right makes it laughable. Please provide me the name of a Republican appointee who was supported by those on the left.

Hell, Bork became a verb because of his treatment.

[Soonerjeepman]

You guys on the right certainly do not disappoint. Obama could have
nominated Jesus and some of you would find fault.

Hey Rock...DID YOU READ MY FIRST LINE?

let me requote it, even hi-lite the important part....."like a lot of other politicians...dems and pubs...he has some big time baggage."

but I'd vote for Jesus...but defend kerry if ya really want, would like to hear what ya got to say.

[rock on sooner]

naw I kinda Like jesus what little I know of him . This Kerry dude, Never have had much use fer him

Heh...

[rock on sooner]

You have a point. However the fact that you directed it at those on the right makes it laughable. Please provide me the name of a Republican appointee who was supported by those on the left.

Hell, Bork became a verb because of his treatment.

Robert Gates comes to mind...Only thing I'd say about Bork is that
he deserved it..imo..

[rock on sooner]

Hey Rock...DID YOU READ MY FIRST LINE?

let me requote it, even hi-lite the important part....."like a lot of other politicians...dems and pubs...he has some big time baggage."

but I'd vote for Jesus...but defend kerry if ya really want, would like to hear what ya got to say.

Yeah, Jeep, I saw the first line and agree with you. Kerry has baggage,
as you point out and I'm not trying to defend him. I think the Swift Boat
campaign against him was a textbook example of dirty politics. What was
so sad was that Kerry and the Dems thought that if they just ignored that
campaign it would go away. Obviously, they were wrong. (That's been my
beef about Dems for a long time...they think that people don't believe what folks
like Limbaugh, Beck, etc says, 'cept that they continue to say it loudly and
often so many folks take it as truth.)

RLIMC, I picked Jesus for the very reason you point out...

[olevetonahill]

Yeah, Jeep, I saw the first line and agree with you. Kerry has baggage,
as you point out and I'm not trying to defend him. I think the Swift Boat
campaign against him was a textbook example of dirty politics. What was
so sad was that Kerry and the Dems thought that if they just ignored that
campaign it would go away. Obviously, they were wrong. (That's been my
beef about Dems for a long time...they think that people don't believe what folks
like Limbaugh, Beck, etc says, 'cept that they continue to say it loudly and
often so many folks take it as truth.)

RLIMC, I picked Jesus for the very reason you point out...

"Dirty Politics"? You sayin Vets against him were dirty?

http://www.tosettherecordstraight.com/

http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php

[rock on sooner]

"Dirty Politics"? You sayin Vets against him were dirty?

http://www.tosettherecordstraight.com/

http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php

What the vets said could well be true. I wasn't there. What
was dirty about the whole affair were some Texas Pubs...
Simmons (involved in Iran-Contra, too) Perry and Anderson
putting up a couple million bucks each to fund the whole affair,
with ads, paid for "seminars" and the like, to sink the campaign.
There are a lot of versions of what happened and what didn't
happen in Nam.

[Soonerjeepman]

c'mon rock...and the dems don't do that $hit either..? I know you're not saying that but it isn't just beck, rush, hannity. The libs have their guys (and the general media) spouting the same crap about pubs. Here in Missouri (ok actually live in ks but...) there were very strong feelings that Claire's group/dem party ran ads in the rep primary FOR Akins...KNOWING they'd beat him in the general, even without his stupid a$$ comments.

Both sides are guilty, I pointed it out because it SEEMS in my opinion the folks on here supporting obama and the dems think he can do no wrong. He ran on TRANSPARENCY, CHANGE, etc..but he and the dems are no better than any other politician.

[olevetonahill]

What the vets said could well be true. I wasn't there. What
was dirty about the whole affair were some Texas Pubs...
Simmons (involved in Iran-Contra, too) Perry and Anderson
putting up a couple million bucks each to fund the whole affair,
with ads, paid for "seminars" and the like, to sink the campaign.
There are a lot of versions of what happened and what didn't
happen in Nam.

Come on bro the mother ****er would have had to be the second coming of Audy Murphy to have garnered that many medals in less than 2 months of Actual Time in Harms way. Did you even read what those who served with him said?

He was on the fast track of some one , Then joined up with hanoi jane **** him

[rock on sooner]

Jeep, I can't remember any national politician in my lifetime, starting
with Truman, that didn't have warts, flaws, closeted skeletons, back
room arm twisting (LBJ was best at it) and up to their eyeballs in quid
pro quo. What makes it different now is that it is front and center, on
both sides. Look at the free ride the press gave JFK, the wink-wink that
Ike got...Nixon probably would have gotten away with most of his stuff
if he hadn't tried to stonewall and cover up. Reagan was the original
teflon president, absolutely nothing stuck to him. Yeah, politicians,
by design and necessity, are two-faced, self serving and almost all
are corrupt, imo.

[rock on sooner]

Come on bro the mother ****er would have had to be the second coming of Audy Murphy to have garnered that many medals in less than 2 months of Actual Time in Harms way. Did you even read what those who served with him said?

He was on the fast track of some one , Then joined up with hanoi jane **** him

Yeah, I read what they said. Pissed me off that he joined up with Fonda. I don't
have to tell you, tho, that war messed up a lot of minds, killed 57000 of our finest.
Kerry's dad was a foreign service officer...I think that played into what Kerry got and
did. I know from my time in that when someone, especially an officer, has someone
pulling strings there is a lot of resentment. (Had a 1st Lt. second in command on my
flight in Scotland that had someone helping him along). Base commander, a girzzled
full bird colonel, just sneared at him whenever he visited...we worked rotating shifts
and the CO would visit to observe our mission work.

[olevetonahill]

Like I said, I got no use for the mother ****er, anyone who endangers the lives of those under his command just to get a trophy is lower than whale shat.

You Know why he only spent a few weeks at a time on a boat? Some would have Fragged his azz and every one knew it.

[rock on sooner]

No doubt...our problem wuz that we weren't in a combat zone..
may be coulda had a satellite dish fall on him...

[olevetonahill]

No doubt...our problem wuz that we weren't in a combat zone..
may be coulda had a satellite dish fall on him...

:welcoming:

[soonercruiser]

You guys on the right certainly do not disappoint. Obama could have
nominated Jesus and some of you would find fault.

Nah!
Obama would have nominated Mohammed!

[soonercruiser]

I don't like the guy, but I would never try and judge or worse criticize someone who has been in combat as to why he did something like this. I have no right nor does anyone else.

Too bad for you!
I was in Nam, and I can condemn his action of throwing the medals away for the reason he did!
It tells you what he though of his service!
Then, he wants to turn around and brag about it when he ran for the party's Pres numination!!!?????

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