'Projected' BCS rankings have OU out of BCS bowls

[soonerwxman]

From this morning: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/bcs

I think the Sangrin ratings dropped UCLA lower than originally thought. Unreal...

1 Notre Dame 0.9979 2869 0.9979 1469 0.9959 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 Alabama 0.9369 2740 0.953 1398 0.9478 3 4 4 2 3 3 3.25
3 Florida 0.9149 2550 0.887 1324 0.8976 2 2 2 6 2 2 2
4 Oregon 0.8759 2622 0.912 1336 0.9058 5 6 6 4 6 8 5.75
5 Kansas State 0.8224 2344 0.8153 1183 0.802 4 5 3 3 8 7 4.75
6 Georgia 0.7677 2254 0.784 1164 0.7892 9 11 7 8 7 4 7.75
7 Stanford 0.7465 2059 0.7162 1008 0.6834 6 3 5 5 5 5 5
8 LSU 0.7334 2142 0.745 1114 0.7553 7 9 10 9 4 9 8.5
9 Texas A&M 0.6828 2038 0.7089 1076 0.7295 11 10 11 11 11 10 10.75
10 South Carolina 0.6655 1862 0.6477 972 0.659 8 8 9 10 10 6 8.75
11 Oklahoma 0.6295 1706 0.5934 878 0.5953 10 7 8 7 9 11 8.5
12 Florida State 0.5045 1614 0.5614 829 0.562 21 15 17 14 18 15 16.25
13 Clemson 0.496 1561 0.543 789 0.5349 27 14 13 13 20 16 15.75
14 Oregon State 0.4354 1263 0.4393 482 0.3268 12 13 12 15 12 13 12.5
15 Nebraska 0.4041 1090 0.3791 565 0.3831 15 12 16 20 16 12 14.75
16 Northern Illinois 0.2668 849 0.2953 450 0.3051 31 16 22 12 31 20 22.25
17 UCLA 0.2622 603 0.2097 320 0.2169 16 18 15 24 14 19 1

[colleyvillesooner]

This better not ****ing happen. Hopefully the voters will do the right thing. Northern Illinois is an OK mid major and will be without their head coach who took the NC State job yesterday.

[thecrimsoncrusader]

Northern Illinois "might" be Kansas, but outside of the, even the lowly West Virginia and Baylor beat them by 50 points and don't give up many points in the process despite their bad defenses. UCLA shouldn't even be in those rankings.

[arcman46]

After the beatdown of Nebraska last night, I can't see Nebraska staying at 15th either.

[cleller]

As I understand it, as long as NIU holds the 16 spot, they are in and we are out. Correct? Pretty dumb formula. In this poll, Neb is 15. with their performance last night, what would make NIU drop lower than 16?

If this comes to pass, where do we go?

[soonerwxman]

That is correct. If this holds, then NIU bumps us out of the BCS and we likely land in the Cotton Bowl against a SEC school- likely Georgia. What a joke the BCS is! I have friends that are Florida State fans and they are sick they will get 'stuck' playing Northern Illinois. Who wants to watch that?! Wonder if the Orange and Sugar Bowl committees love this system they bought into? Instead of an OU/Florida marque matchup, they get a Florida/Louisville Sugar Bowl. Orange gets a joke matchup too.

[yermom]

i don't know how he can predict whatever the cabal of voters will decide today

how many teams should NIU jump that didn't play or won? how close will it be? are the computers going to hurt or help them? Kent State should help the SOS, but Boise would be my pick to ruin our day. wouldn't be the first time

i think the MWC champ is a little more impressive than the MAC champ.

[yermom]

and the Cotton gets #2 Big 12, #3 SEC


i'm pretty sure #2 goes to the Capital One Bowl, which should be Georgia, leaving us with LSU, unless they pick strangely like when the Cotton Bowl took OSU over Texas in 2003 for some reason.

[cleller]

Apparently there is an 11th hour way for humans to override the computer votes, screw NIU and keep a better Oklahoma team in the BCS.

What a McDougall.

[soonerinabilene]

Brad Edwards, who is the best BCS analyst, has us in the Sugar against Florida. I don't think I've ever seen him be wrong before.

[Ruf/Nek7]

When it all comes down to it, our fate lies in the hands of the human polls. The BCS computer rankings are not fond of NIU. It is going to take the coaches and the Harris poll reps to keep NIU out.

[soonerwxman]

NIU moved up two spots (to 16) in the Coaches Poll, three spots in front of UCLA (18) and 5 ahead of the Huskers (21). Start to look like Cotton Bowl projections will be right us...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/polls/

[kevpks]

That's a huge jump for Louisville from 23 to 18. Any change they move ahead of NIU in the final BCS rankings? Do the computers like Lville at all?

[BlownGP]

This sucks

[Soonermagik]

What a joke. Think of Georgia who barely lost to Bama doesn't get a BCS game, but N. ILLINOIS might get in.... laughable.

[FaninAma]

If it works out this way OU will only be the second most unhappy participant in the BCS crapfest behind whichever bowl gets NIU. The 3rd most unhappy participant will be whichever team has to play them. IMO the team playing NIU may be unhappier than OU.

[King Crimson]

the quicker this system falls, the better.

woo woo NIU.

we lost 2 games at home...i ain't complaining about not being a BCS team

another semi-memorable 10 win season in Oklahoma football. God Bless the players, fans, etc...changes need to be made in college football.

if we can be a part of it....so the better.

decide it on the field.

[FaninAma]

I would rather play in the Cotton Bowl against a good team than play NIU in a BCS bowl. That would be worse than playing Connecticut or Boise State.

[OUTrumpet]

I would rather play in the Cotton Bowl against a good team than play NIU in a BCS bowl. That would be worse than playing Connecticut or Boise State.

It'd be against Georgia. Florida State I think would be the ones shafted with Northern Illinois.

[GreenSooner]

I would rather play in the Cotton Bowl against a good team than play NIU in a BCS bowl. That would be worse than playing Connecticut or Boise State.

Obviously there's no way we will play NIU, as one of us, but not both will make the BCS. But I take your point: there are worse fates than playing Georgia in the Cotton Bowl.

[FaninAma]

Talk about a no-win situation.

[8timechamps]

I really don't care if we get knocked out of a BCS game, we'll still end up in a good bowl against someone different. It's hard for me to imagine the Big XII being "okay" with letting that payday go, so I'd suspect there will be some serious conversations about it before deciding not to include OU.

[King Crimson]

I would rather play in the Cotton Bowl against a good team than play NIU in a BCS bowl. That would be worse than playing Connecticut or Boise State.

i would too. was going to say the same thing about UCONN. that was stupid. the whole "media event" of it. that Boise team had a lot of 5th seniors and we won the Big XII with smoke and mirrors with PT at QB. they won the game, hooray for every football fan in america on the dramatic upset....but BSU beat an OU team that was ranked about 15-20 most of the season until Fran failed to call Toombs up the middle, MU can't stop the run and Allen Patrick was the man,.....and then, we beat NU when it mattered (samo samo).....all of a sudden we are in a BCS bowl.

wasn't like they beat the Selmons or Tony Casillas or Joe Washington....but that's the story....we got. David, GOliath....a referendum on big versus small.

god bless ENA but we lost to Texas....this isn't a Sooner Juggernaut. what the world fails to understand.

[FaninAma]

Obviously there's no way we will play NIU, as one of us, but not both will make the BCS. But I take your point: there are worse fates than playing Georgia in the Cotton Bowl.

That was my point. I know we wouldn't play NIU but I would rather be in a lesser bowl than the team that does have to play them.

[Sooner02]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

[colleyvillesooner]

Yep, a new computer poll came out and Palm pulled NIU back out going to be REALLY close.

[BigTip]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

Sugar Bowl
Jan. 2, 8:30 p.m.
New Orleans, La.
SEC vs. at-large
ESPN
Comment: Florida will be an automatic at-large team, so the Gators are a natural to replace Alabama. They will face Big 12 runner up Oklahoma in a Champions Bowl preview.


What what? Big 12 runner up? Hey! I heard on the TV we was Co-Champions. hrumph.

[All_Day_28]

So Brad Edwards has changed his projection..

Brad Edwards ‏@JBradEdwards

I'm going to switch my projection to NIU in the BCS, but don't book your flights yet, Huskies.

Brad Edwards ‏@JBradEdwards

To clarify, I'm projecting Florida-Louisville in Sugar and FSU-Northern Illinois in Orange. Oklahoma to Cotton

[SoonerStormchaser]

Well, this definitely sucks if we get shut out, but that's the price we pay for losing two games...and that's just the way the system works. Personally, I think there needs to be a little more human judgment on this because NIU has ZERO business being in a BCS bowl. If they get in, I pray they get massacred.

[soonercastor]

damn huskers and huskies.

[SoonerStormchaser]

damn huskers and huskies.
It's not NIU's fault...had Kent State won the game, we'd be in the same boat.

[ouradu]

big east should lose their aq status for this.

[SoonerStormchaser]

big east should lose their aq status for this.

Yup...

[8timechamps]

I blame Texas. If they had beaten KSU, none of this would be an issue. F**k Texas!

[JLEW1818]

Obama is all for the little guys getting automatics.

[olevetonahill]

Ok folks Calm the **** down, Last week they were 18th in the coaches and only moved up 2 spots this week
They were 21st in the BCS aint no way they gonna move up 5 spots in the BCS

[Soonerfan88]

It's as much about those above them losing and moving down as NIU winning and moving up. If either Nebraska or UCLA hadn't lost, it would not even be close.

[Phil]

It's as much about those above them losing and moving down as NIU winning and moving up. If either Nebraska or UCLA hadn't lost, it would not even be close.

And if Kent State had won, we'd have been screwed before Nebraska played yesterday.

[Phil]

And the fact that we are talking about Kent State and Northern Illinois as anything other than paycheck game September fodder at Owen Field is just annoying. Not their fault, but annoying.

[yermom]

Ok folks Calm the **** down, Last week they were 18th in the coaches and only moved up 2 spots this week
They were 21st in the BCS aint no way they gonna move up 5 spots in the BCS

it really depends on where the Harris voters want them to be

there are enough teams that lost above Boise to put them there. they are already 15 in the Coaches

[colleyvillesooner]

Just a gut feeling, but I think we get left out.

[FaninAma]

8 positions in the non-title BCS bowls and it is possible that 3 will be filled with NIU, a 5 loss Wisconsin team, and a no-name Big East Louisville.

Yeah, those games should shatter viewership records. LOL.

[JLEW1818]

If we end up Cotton, no harm done. Let the BCS suffer and ****ing die

[JLEW1818]

@JBradEdwards: To clarify, I'm projecting Florida-Louisville in Sugar and FSU-Northern Illinois in Orange. Oklahoma to Cotton

[yermom]

8 positions in the non-title BCS bowls and it is possible that 3 will be filled with NIU, a 5 loss Wisconsin team, and a no-name Big East Louisville.

Yeah, those games should shatter viewership records. LOL.

yeah, something might need to change. like if you are out of the top 16, someone else gets your bid.

adding the extra game has really diluted the process

[Wishboned]

I'm hearing OU - aTm in the Cotton.

[rdusooner]

What a ****ing joke. This whole thing should have fire set to it. And we don't even get a great bowl matchup. Sure the game itself will be a good one, but we have played a&m about every year for forever. We basically get another big12 game. I don't think I could be less pleased

[yermom]

only thing worse would be having to drive to Phoenix for it

[JLEW1818]

We won't know until the computers come out tonight

[CowboyMRW]

Pete Thamel ‏@SIPeteThamel
BREAKING: Northern Illinois vs Florida State is official in the Orange Bowl, according to a source.

[JLEW1818]

Pete Thamel ‏@SIPeteThamel
BREAKING: Northern Illinois vs Florida State is official in the Orange Bowl, according to a source.

How do they know? The BCS computers can't be leaked until tonight

[Ground_Attack]

How is it official if the BCS hasn't been released?

[Wishboned]

We won't know until the computers come out tonight

I would say it's 95-20 we're Cotton Bowl bound to play aTm.

[Soonerwake]

The joke is that NIU is not very good. Lost to a bad Iowa team, barely beat Army, beat Kansas at home by 7. Can anyone honestly tell me that they would finish better than than 8th in the Big XII? That's the joke part, the part that is frustrating. Why did the idiots who came up with this system set the number so low at 16?? And lets all be honest. The Cotton bowl is a HUGE drop off from a BCS game. Period....

[colleyvillesooner]

You don't think those get leaked early too?

[JLEW1818]

The rules are lame.

If a automatic conference is not ranked, and a AA is in top 16, they should take their spot.

[ouradu]

I'm sure they already know and have negotiated with the eligible teams by now. doesn't surprise me if the talks between the orange and NIU have leaked.

[JLEW1818]

How did tcu and Boise play each other that one year?

[FaninAma]

Won't Georgia be the 3rd ranked team and headed to the Cotton Bowl?

[cleller]

How do they know? The BCS computers can't be leaked until tonight

Sunday afternoon...BCS computer in the local sports bar...few too many beers....

[ouradu]

the bowls already have to have communicated with the teams by now. as a formality they can't go assigning teams to bowls that the teams haven't agreed to. those discussions leak like anything else.

[JLEW1818]

@Mark_Schlabach: Just told #Aggies to Cotton Bowl still on table and likely. #LSU to Chick. It's fluid until very end

[cleller]

Won't Georgia be the 3rd ranked team and headed to the Cotton Bowl?


Look at this one, shows OU and LSU in the Cotton, Neb playing Georgia in the Capitol One. Boy that could be bad.

All the while NIU is at the Orange Bowl. What a system. NIU isn't as good as any of the above. (maybe Neb.)

http://www.sbnation.com/bowl-games-2012-2013/2012/11/25/3687856/bowl-projections-2012-national-championship

[jk the sooner fan]

new article by Jerry Palm has NIU out - BARELY

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jerry-palm/21224824/projected-bcs-niu-yo-yos-back-out-of-bcs-bowl-spot--for-now

[FaninAma]

If we play TAMU in the Cotton Bowl I have no interest in attending. Zero.

[freshchris05]

Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, **** it. aTm in the cotton is like banging your ex.

[soonercastor]

How did tcu and Boise play each other that one year?

I think that's the year UTah got the non AQ auto bid

Edit: or do you mean the following year in the BCS? TCU was the auto bid that year and Boise received the at-large. the fiesta lost the big 12 champ (tx) that year to the MNC

[8timechamps]

new article by Jerry Palm has NIU out - BARELY

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jerry-palm/21224824/projected-bcs-niu-yo-yos-back-out-of-bcs-bowl-spot--for-now

I saw where NIU had already accepted a bid to play in the Orange Bowl, but I find that hard to believe since the BCS isn't official...yet.

[GreenSooner]

SI's Pete Thamel is apparently reporting that a source has told him that NIU has made it. At least the rotting corpse of the BCS is scheduled to be buried for good in the near future!

http://www.sbnation.com/bowl-games-2012-2013/2012/12/2/3696340/orange-bowl-2013-northern-illinois-florida-state

[Widescreen]

new article by Jerry Palm has NIU out - BARELY

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jerry-palm/21224824/projected-bcs-niu-yo-yos-back-out-of-bcs-bowl-spot--for-now

Unfortunately that's old out of date info.

[olevetonahill]

it really depends on where the Harris voters want them to be

there are enough teams that lost above Boise to put them there. they are already 15 in the Coaches

The Coaches I saw on Rivals had em 16 up from 18 last week
Too much crap being tossed around right now
Kinda like yesterdays games . Why dont we just wait an see?

[nighttrain12]

Jerry World here we come!

[rock on sooner]

The Coaches I saw on Rivals had em 16 up from 18 last week
Too much crap being tossed around right now
Kinda like yesterdays games . Why dont we just wait an see?

Geez, Vet,ifn ya wait ta see then ya cant pizz, moan, foam at tha mouth,
none of that stuff....:biggrin:

[JLEW1818]

@marcweiszer: Georgia officially will play Nebraska in the Capital One Bowl on Jan. 1.

[flysooner9]

Looks like Nebraska will get embarrassed one last time this year.

[SoonerorLater]

Please not ATM. How about playing somebody new and different. We've play ATM every year for the last 16 years.

[TUSooner]

The Coaches I saw on Rivals had em 16 up from 18 last week
Too much crap being tossed around right now
Kinda like yesterdays games . Why dont we just wait an see?
It would be awful quiet around here if that ever happened.

[bluedogok]

Please not ATM. How about playing somebody new and different. We've play ATM every year for the last 16 years.
Media and bowl officials probably think it is a great match up that fans of both schools would love....it just means they're that out of touch.

[boomersooner28]

Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, **** it. aTm in the cotton is like banging your ex.

What is wrong with that?

[soonerinabilene]

What is wrong with that?

Sometimes the ex catches herpes in between?

[boomersooner28]

Sometimes the ex catches herpes in between?

Oh

[yermom]

official now

[TitoMorelli]

I hope the Seminoles stomp a mudhole in the MAC chumps.

[birddog]

I really don't care if we get knocked out of a BCS game, we'll still end up in a good bowl against someone different hard for me to imagine the Big XII being "okay" with letting that payday go, so I'd suspect there will be some serious conversations about it before deciding not to include OU.

ouch. oh well. nothing to see here cept 77-0