did Nebraska officially screw us ?

[JLEW1818]

I think they might have

Stupid bug

[FaninAma]

I think NIU still only gets to 17th. And I doubt UCLA falls below them or Boise State.

[Soonerus]

I don't think so...we were slotted to the Sugar Bowl before the KSU game...OU vs. FLA...in the Sugar Bowl...

[StoopTroup]

A 7-5 Team beat the ever living shat out of them for it.

[MyT Oklahoma]

If the Bugeaters screwed us I sure didn't feel it. Did anyone else?

[StoopTroup]

I felt they got buggered by a badger.

[sooneron]

Is a bowl obligated to take them if they are 15th or something? What did I miss?
Why would a bowl take them over us unless they were obligated to do so?

[soonercastor]

Is a bowl obligated to take them if they are 15th or something?

Yes.

These non AQ teams usually had to go undefeated to even get any consideration, but here we have NIU with one loss and freaking Boise with not one but TWO losses in the conversation, that's just stupid. Heck an undefeated Boise team got left out a few years ago and that team was light years ahead of these two.

[Phil]

Is a bowl obligated to take them if they are 15th or something? What did I miss?
Why would a bowl take them over us unless they were obligated to do so?

Has to do with the BCS. If they freefall, it could help NIU get to 16 and take our BCS spot.

[jk the sooner fan]

if a mid major makes it into the top 16 of the bcs rankings - they are guaranteed a spot as an at large invite

so they would push us out based on that but i dont think its going to happen

[StoopTroup]

Is a bowl obligated to take them if they are 15th or something? What did I miss?
Why would a bowl take them over us unless they were obligated to do so?

I don't know why any Bowl would want them after getting hammered like that by a 7-5 Team.

[kevpks]

Is a bowl obligated to take them if they are 15th or something? What did I miss?
Why would a bowl take them over us unless they were obligated to do so?

I think he is referring to NIU's chances of getting to 16 in the BCS. The thinking is that getting obliterated by Wisconsin might drop them enough for NIU to pass them.

[Phil]

I think NIU still only gets to 17th. And I doubt UCLA falls below them or Boise State.

This. I think the voters will make sure NIU does not jump high enough to get into the BCS.

[soonercastor]

yeah but the thing is we have to watch for stupid 2-loss Boise as well. Unbelievable.

[sooneron]

Thanks everyone. I didn't know it was an obligation, I just thought it was an opportunity to be invited. Bull**** rule, imo. 16th ranked team? sheesh.

[mdklatt]

if a mid major makes it into the top 16 of the bcs rankings - they are guaranteed a spot as an at large invite


...if they're ranked higher than an AQ conference champion. Which is the case this year due to the Big Least.

[JLEW1818]

Hope the voters stick together. Is Bo liked?

[oklaclarinet]

Well, it's not just the mid-major being in the top 16. It's a mid-major being in the top 16 and being ranked higher than the champ of a BCS conference. This year, if either NIU or Boise makes it to 16, they will be ranked higher than the champs of both the Big East and the Big Ten. (And if Georgia Tech had won you could have thrown the ACC into that group as well.)

[jk the sooner fan]

...if they're ranked higher than an AQ conference champion. Which is the case this year due to the Big Least.

yep -forgot that part - thanks

[kevpks]

I can't believe we even have to sweat this. What a bunch of crap.

[Soonerus]

We should be fine...

[StoopTroup]

I can't believe we even have to sweat this. What a bunch of crap.

It's absolutely ridiculous. Hell....Tulsa beat a Team nobody said they could beat twice and are having to go to the Liberty Bowl? The BCS is definitely worse now. I know folks thought things would get better once the Playoffs were installed but it won't be better for these lesser Bowls. It going to be really screwed up....

[kevpks]

It's absolutely ridiculous. Hell....Tulsa beat a Team nobody said they could beat twice and are having to go to the Liberty Bowl? The BCS is definitely worse now. I know folks thought things would get better once the Playoffs were installed but it won't be better for these lesser Bowls. It going to be really screwed up....

And conference realignment is making things worse too. Just look at these championship games. Wisconsin and Georgia Tech had no business playing for a BCS game. Georgia Tech needs an exemption to even go to a bowl since they're 6-7 now. I think UCLA had to do that last year too.

[kevpks]

BCS Guru (whoever that is) predicts NIU to move to 17. Too close for comfort.

@BCSGuru: #BCS top 20: 20. Northwestern, 19. Boise State, 18. Michigan, 17. Northern Illinois, 16. Nebraska, 15. UCLA, 14. FSU;

[soonercastor]

Too close for comfort.
;

way too ****ing close. Man this sucks.

[BoulderSooner79]

The rule has been in place for a while - deal with it. If we beat ND, we play Bama for all the marbles and all this other stuff if just noise for other teams to talk about. Win your games.

[soonercastor]

And conference realignment is making things worse too. Just look at these championship games. Wisconsin and Georgia Tech had no business playing for a BCS game. Georgia Tech needs an exemption to even go to a bowl since they're 6-7 now. I think UCLA had to do that last year too.

well you can't penalize G Tech for Miami keeping itself out of the ACC tiitle game (which is how G Tech ended up there after finishing 6-6 therefore bowl eligible). What did you want them to do? "No we don't want to play that championship game, we'll just stay at 6-6 and be bowl eligible"?


If we beat ND, we play Bama for all the marbles and all this other stuff if just .

That's not a lock, but in that scenario we'd be a lock for a BCS game and either Florida or Oregon would not get an at-large.

[kevpks]

well you can't penalize G Tech for Miami keeping itself out of the ACC tiitle game (which is how G Tech ended up there after finishing 6-6 therefore bowl eligible). What did you want them to do? "No we don't want to play that championship game, we'll just stay at 6-6 and be bowl eligible"?



That's not a lock, but in that scenario we'd be a lock for a BCS game and either Florida or Oregon would not get an at-large.

Where did I say they shouldn't play in the game? My point is that the ACC super conference that was supposed to happen never materialized and it looks like the Pac 10 and Big 10 also weakened themselves by expanding. Has any conference actually strengthened themselves by expanding? This will get worse if conferences start going to 16.

[yermom]

the Big 12 seemed to do okay after expanding to 12 teams

[kevpks]

the Big 12 seemed to do okay after expanding to 12 teams

Not really. I'd take the old Big 8 over what we have now. Adding Texas schools ruined a good league.

[BajaOklahoma]

Not really. I'd take the old Big 8 over what we have now. Adding Texas schools ruined a good league.


Word.

[S.PadreIsl.Sooner]

Hope the voters stick together. Is Bo liked?

I think Bo is toast.

[mainline13]

If the Bugeaters screwed us I sure didn't feel it. Did anyone else?

Needle d!cks, don't you know.

[JLEW1818]

Told y'all

[King Crimson]

Not really. I'd take the old Big 8 over what we have now. Adding Texas schools ruined a good league.

big 8 was strong at the end in both hoops and football. 4 football NC's in it's last decade. played for the ring at least 2-3 times as well in that time period. sending 4-5 teams to the NCAA hoops tournament.

just not enough population density....same story as the latest round of reshuffle.

it wasn't about quality of play on the field....just the political economies of advertising dollars.