Congratulations to KSU and Snyder

[goingoneight]

We wanted the BIG 12-2-2+2 all to ourselves; but we give credit where credit is due. It's a shame the final four playoff isn't here already because I'd have loved to see KSU up against ND and Bama-type teams under those said circumstances. Anywho, see ya in Manhattan next year. Thanks for the Belldozer. :D

[MyT Oklahoma]

Congratulations Kansas State and Coach Snyder. Great year.

[KABOOKIE]

Congrats on their co-championship.

[sendbaht]

Yes, congratulations Kansas State and Coach Snyder and our Oklahoma Sooners!

[olevetonahill]

Yup, Ill say the Grats to em also
Snyder is a Class act and we need more like him

[StoopTroup]

I wish we could play them in a Conference Championship at Arrowhead again...but they win by the rules we are stuck with....

[JLEW1818]

Kstate Big12 champs.

(Each had a conference loss, and they beat us head up).

[olevetonahill]

Kstate Big12 champs.

(Each had a conference loss, and they beat us head up).

Yup they beat us thats why they go to Fiesta, but we still Co-Champs
I aint aggie but facts is facts

[StoopTroup]

Kstate Big12 champs.

(Each had a conference loss, and they beat us head up).

But they had a Baylor Bear kalonic and we devoured fresh bear meat.

[JLEW1818]

Did Nebraska screw us?

[StoopTroup]

Did Nebraska screw us?

I think it was Nebbiska, Missouya, Aggieland's ghey 12th man and some old beefalo with no teeth.

[Mazeppa]

Kstate Big12 champs.

(Each had a conference loss, and they beat us head up).

doesn't matter that they beat us head up, thanks to mr Dodds, (who does not want 12 teams and a championship game, so we have what we have).

[KABOOKIE]

Kstate Big12 champs.

(Each had a conference loss, and they beat us head up).


Haha, you said the same in 08 when Texas beat OU?

[picasso]

Kstate Big12 champs.

(Each had a conference loss, and they beat us head up).

They got smoked by Baylor. I'm not giving those bitches anything.

[Mazeppa]

http://i48.tinypic.com/33ww328.jpg

[Salt City Sooner]

Haha, you said the same in 08 when Texas beat OU?
And the third team that you failed to mention?

Different scenario, period.

[agoo758]

The love swoon for Bill O Brien is going to prevent the award from going to the right person. I'm convinced this man is a brighter mind than Saban. Give him elite talent and hes 3 or more NC's.

[PLaw]

Haha, you said the same in 08 when Texas beat OU?



A 3-way tie is different... JLEW is right. KSU is the 2012 Big 12 champ, period.

Claiming a co-championship this year feels a little aggie.

Boomer

[colleyvillesooner]

If we don't like co-Championships we have about 9 to take off the board from the Big 8 days. When there is no championship game, you're gonna have co-champions.

I'm not gonna start counting co-division champs like A&M, but we both have one loss, and by the rules head to head is irrelevant. We couldn't beat them and they get their *** kicked by Baylor. Period.

[thecrimsoncrusader]

Kstate Big12 champs.

(Each had a conference loss, and they beat us head up).

And they lost to a 5 loss Baylor team who OU beat. Sounds like KSU's win over OU was a fluke. Some things aren't an opinion. You're an idiot.

[picasso]

A 3-way tie is different... JLEW is right. KSU is the 2012 Big 12 champ, period.

Claiming a co-championship this year feels a little aggie.

Boomer
Regardless of what we or Stoops thinks. I'm sure the school will still hang up the banner.

So be it.

[GrapevineSooner]

Regardless of what we or Stoops thinks. I'm sure the school will still hang up the banner.

So be it.

I personally don't like the idea of co-champions. I'd rather have a CCG in a winner-take-all format.

But as Stoops once said, everybody agreed to these rules at the beginning of the year. The Big XII Conference says we get a trophy so we get a trophy.

And besides, as one of my friends from this board pointed out to me on Twitter last night, it's not like a spot in the national title game is on the line. Both teams will probably get to play in a BCS bowl game. Just that according to those same rules, K-State's spot in a BCS bowl game is guaranteed whereas our's isn't.

[TUSooner]

A 3-way tie is different... JLEW is right. KSU is the 2012 Big 12 champ, period.

Claiming a co-championship this year feels a little aggie.

Boomer

Yep. Argue legalisms all you want, but KState are the real champs because they beat us. If we had the same record as them but had beaten them, you can bet your @$$ we'd be claiming the title all for ourselves. Everybody knows this, but some OU fans can't accept it. Be gracious enough to give them their due and quit arguing against the scoreboard. Our season was good enough anyway.

[colleyvillesooner]

So then take off the stadium any of the big 8 co championships we won.

We are going to count it and in 15 years know will remember we split it with a team that lost to 5 loss Baylor.

[jkjsooner]

So then take off the stadium any of the big 8 co championships we won.

We are going to count it and in 15 years know will remember we split it with a team that lost to 5 loss Baylor.

How many times did we split with a team who had head-to-head over us? I don't remember any since I started watching late '70s.

[XingTheRubicon]

How many times did we split with a team who had head-to-head over us? I don't remember any since I started watching late '70s.

1978.

Neb beat us (fumble on the 3)
Neb lost to Missouri

Both had 1 conference loss...Neb had head to head.

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/m-footbl-conf-titles.html
look how it says "co-champs with Nebraska"

[PLaw]

So then take off the stadium any of the big 8 co championships we won.

We are going to count it and in 15 years know will remember we split it with a team that lost to 5 loss Baylor.

I think you have to look at the circumstances around the"co-".

I may be wrong, but some of those "co-s" involved Nebbish when we beat them soundly.

This year, we lose on our home turf to the other half. They beat us - congrats to the cats.

Boomer

[Soonerjeepman]

so do we actually get a trophy? I had a discussion with a ksu fan...they said no they got it last night..I could have swore we get one as well.

[colleyvillesooner]

I did. 1978 lost to Nebraska on second to last game. Some Others we were the winner in the head to head.

[MyT Oklahoma]

It's a Co-Championship. They beat us in the head to head but it's a Co-Championship.

Congrats to KSU and Coach Snyder but any Wildcat fan who claims an outright Championship is an Aggie.

[goingoneight]

How about this...

**** Oregon. OU vs KSU in the Fiesta Bowel. Winner takes the BIG 12 CC Trophy. :D

[KABOOKIE]

And the third team that you failed to mention?

Different scenario, period.

That third team this year was BAYLOR which smoked the **** out of Kstate.

[JLEW1818]

Kstate Big12 champs.

(Each had a conference loss, and they beat us head up).


Haha, you said the same in 08 when Texas beat OU?

Guess you don't understand a two way tie and true three way tie.

[KABOOKIE]

Guess you don't understand a two way tie and true three way tie.

Guess you don't understand the rules that determine bowl selection and who wins the conference.

[JLEW1818]

Kansas State won the conference and the automatic qualifier to play in the Fiesta Bowl.

They also beat OU on our own field.

[KABOOKIE]

Kansas State won the conference and the automatic qualifier to play in the Fiesta Bowl.

They also beat OU on our own field.

They also lost to a lousy Baylor team.

Cory Nelson says "Whats up chump!?"

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[KABOOKIE]

Maybe they get to touch it before it goes to Kstate?

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/74758_10151168854492005_1757167620_n.jpg

[Soonerjeepman]

ah, so OU did get a trophy as well...cool. I'll take it. If ksu didn't want to share all they had to do was win..they didn't, we did win out.

[birddog]

yup, if it's gotsta be someone, may as well be irwin fletcher when he dressed up like that old guy in fletch 2. dead ringer for snyder. it's easier now (maybe cuz i'm 39 now) to pull for em because their fans don't seem as obnoxious as they were since the ginger fella qb'd em ('99?) on through 2003.

[Soonerjeepman]

ytheir fans don't seem as obnoxious as they were since the ginger fella qb'd em ('99?) on through 2003.

hmmm, living up here they can be. Yes not like the horns or osu I'm sure but definitely a different breed, they now EXPECT to win...

[PLaw]

They also lost to a lousy Baylor team.

Cory Nelson says "Whats up chump!?"

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Maybe Cory should have done a better job stopping Klein and then this thread would be dead.

Boomer

[KABOOKIE]

Maybe Cory should have done a better job stopping Klein and then this thread would be dead.

Boomer

Maybe Klein should have done a better job against one of the worst defenses in the conference and then they would have been an outright champion.

[birddog]

Both teams played their scheds. We lost to the co-champs and the co-champs got smoked by da bearc. Hang a friggin banner or whatev but for the love of god no rings allowed. Save that for spanking the acorn grabbers