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FaninAma
11/19/2012, 07:42 PM
Both paternal grandparents were born in Ireland so it should be a done deal. Will hold dual citizenship but with white men rapidly becoming persona non-grata in this country it always nice to have options.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/dnc-chair-gop-they-got-whiter-and-more-male

olevetonahill
11/19/2012, 07:49 PM
**** them Liberal bitches, They need to get their asses back in the Kitchen and makin sammich's

jk the sooner fan
11/19/2012, 08:02 PM
Seems a bit drastic...

BoulderSooner79
11/19/2012, 08:04 PM
My roots are from Ireland as well, but I couldn't take the cold and rain. I'm applying for Hawaiian citizenship.

FaninAma
11/19/2012, 08:06 PM
Seems a bit drastic...

I'm not renouncing my US citizenship. But having citizenship to an EU country opens a lot of doors for travel and business.

BTW, Spain is offering citizenship to anybody who will buy a home there....or so I have heard.

FaninAma
11/19/2012, 08:09 PM
My roots are from Ireland as well, but I couldn't take the cold and rain. I'm applying for Hawaiian citizenship.

I know a couple of doctors who have already moved to Chile.

olevetonahill
11/19/2012, 08:12 PM
I know a couple of doctors who have already moved to Chile.

HMMMM Chili, Ima make me some

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/19/2012, 08:14 PM
I know a couple of doctors who have already moved to Chile.Do they speak German?

FaninAma
11/19/2012, 08:19 PM
Do they speak German?

No. They actually were from California and said they were bugging out before the rest of the country ended up like their home state.

SicEmBaylor
11/19/2012, 08:21 PM
I know a couple of doctors who have already moved to Chile.

Eh...maybe if Pinochet were still in power. ;)

I'm not sure where I would go since I have a rather legendary disdain for foreign people. Maybe Switzerland but they don't care for outsiders. I'd like a northern European country, but I also absolutely cannot stand the f'n cold.

olevetonahill
11/19/2012, 08:46 PM
No. They actually were from California and said they were bugging out before the rest of the country ended up like their home state.

So they speak mezican. then

FirstandGoal
11/19/2012, 08:48 PM
Let's see, I'm a mixed bag of European heritage, but I'm also quite a bit American Indian.

So I guess that makes me eligible to apply for citizenship to.......



furk!


Guess I'm stuck here guys.

SanJoaquinSooner
11/19/2012, 09:46 PM
Both paternal grandparents were born in Ireland so it should be a done deal. Will hold dual citizenship but with white men rapidly becoming persona non-grata in this country it always nice to have options.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/dnc-chair-gop-they-got-whiter-and-more-male

Citizenship? seems like they'd make you get a Green card first.

JohnnyMack
11/19/2012, 09:47 PM
Well.......bye.

JohnnyMack
11/19/2012, 09:49 PM
My family has pretty strong Welsh roots. Maybe I should load up the fam and head for Swansea.

FaninAma
11/19/2012, 09:50 PM
Citizenship? seems like they'd make you get a Green card first.
Nope. If your grandparents were born in Ireland you are eligible for Irish citizenship.

FaninAma
11/19/2012, 09:52 PM
Well.......bye.
Read the entire thread. I'm not denouncing....just storing up options.

olevetonahill
11/19/2012, 09:56 PM
What country lets us make our own whiskey? That be where Im goin :very_drunk:

Sooner5030
11/19/2012, 09:58 PM
I've always thought about the Philippines, Belize, Costa Rica, Georgia, Romania, and eastern Russia. Not for political reasons though.

JohnnyMack
11/19/2012, 10:05 PM
What country lets us make our own whiskey? That be where Im goin :very_drunk:

Urdrunkistan.

olevetonahill
11/19/2012, 10:12 PM
Urdrunkistan.

Sounds Good, Can ya slap yer wimmens and make em get back in the kitchen there also? If ya can that be a Perfect place

SanJoaquinSooner
11/19/2012, 10:14 PM
Nope. If your grandparents were born in Ireland you are eligible for Irish citizenship.

extended family chain migration ...

http://0.tqn.com/d/beer/1/I/y/4/-/-/greenbeer.jpg










green card ... get it?

kevpks
11/19/2012, 10:25 PM
My roots are from Ireland as well, but I couldn't take the cold and rain. I'm applying for Hawaiian citizenship.

Hawaii is a great country. I hear you can get a new birth certificate real cheap there. :rapture:

olevetonahill
11/19/2012, 10:44 PM
Hawaii is a great country. I hear you can get a new birth certificate real cheap there. :rapture:

Yup they Import em from kenya

SicEmBaylor
11/19/2012, 10:55 PM
Both sides of the family came across the Atlantic from merry old England and Wales just prior to the Revolution and given their conduct in that war, it's unlikely the empire will put me on the fast track to citizenship. ;)

I really don't think there is a place that I could tolerate living for very long. Hopefully Texas will secede and I can emigrate south of the Red River.

diverdog
11/19/2012, 11:33 PM
Read the entire thread. I'm not denouncing....just storing up options.

Storing options up for what?

olevetonahill
11/19/2012, 11:37 PM
Storing options up for what?

Fer when You Limp wristed Libs let the Lib wimmens take over .
Pay tention

okie52
11/20/2012, 12:57 AM
Both sides of the family came across the Atlantic from merry old England and Wales just prior to the Revolution and given their conduct in that war, it's unlikely the empire will put me on the fast track to citizenship. ;)

I really don't think there is a place that I could tolerate living for very long. Hopefully Texas will secede and I can emigrate south of the Red River.

They may actually get tough immigration standards and not let you in.

SicEmBaylor
11/20/2012, 02:57 AM
They may actually get tough immigration standards and not let you in.

Well, surely 10 years living in Waco and going to the university of the Republic of Texas counts for something!

LiveLaughLove
11/20/2012, 03:59 AM
Both sides of the family came across the Atlantic from merry old England and Wales just prior to the Revolution and given their conduct in that war, it's unlikely the empire will put me on the fast track to citizenship. ;)

I really don't think there is a place that I could tolerate living for very long. Hopefully Texas will secede and I can emigrate south of the Red River.


First off, if we could get Texas to secede and Oklahoma doesn't follow suit, I've told the family we are becoming Texans.

Secondly, why don't all of you get out and let us have this place back. Yeah we were stone age, but that's far preferable to this Idiocracy we are creating now. And no you Mexicans didn't own this land before the whites, you're all European too. Spain wants people, go there.

Thirdly, Obama sucks, big. But not as much as you idiots that voted for him.

That is all.

Chuck Bao
11/20/2012, 05:23 AM
Talk about silly threads.... Has anyone checked for you the tax rate in Ireland vs. the US?

Concerning dual citizenship, I guess that you know that American citizens are required to diclose ALL of their foreign bank accounts to the US Treasury Department annually. You still have to file US taxes and pay taxes on something like over $90,000 annual foreign income. That is IF you spend less than one month each year in the US. Otherwise, it is fully taxable. So plan your holidays to the US to see your family carefully and don't overstay a single day.

My US doctor was talking some similar nonsense about moving overseas and wanted my input. I have permanent residency in Thailand for life and I think that that deal beats other countries. Yeah, but I'm going to give that up and stay close to home. Funny that people like to talk about doing the opposite never really understand what that means.

SicEmBaylor
11/20/2012, 05:29 AM
First off, if we could get Texas to secede and Oklahoma doesn't follow suit, I've told the family we are becoming Texans.

Secondly, why don't all of you get out and let us have this place back. Yeah we were stone age, but that's far preferable to this Idiocracy we are creating now. And no you Mexicans didn't own this land before the whites, you're all European too. Spain wants people, go there.

Thirdly, Obama sucks, big. But not as much as you idiots that voted for him.

That is all.

I'd like to think that Oklahoma would follow Texas. In reality nobody wants to admit the fact that Oklahoma is just Diet Texas but that's the way it is.

Chuck Bao
11/20/2012, 06:36 AM
I'd like to think that Oklahoma would follow Texas. In reality nobody wants to admit the fact that Oklahoma is just Diet Texas but that's the way it is.

You are on a roll, Sic'em, but not in a good way.

The state of Oklahoma is not Diet Texas except in the weight of its influence, but if that is the point then you could call about 45 other states the very same thing. Anyway, there are enough crazies in Kansas, Oklahoma, Mississippi to offset that craziness in Texas thing, I think.

diverdog
11/20/2012, 07:01 AM
Talk about silly threads.... Has anyone checked for you the tax rate in Ireland vs. the US?

Concerning dual citizenship, I guess that you know that American citizens are required to diclose ALL of their foreign bank accounts to the US Treasury Department annually. You still have to file US taxes and pay taxes on something like over $90,000 annual foreign income. That is IF you spend less than one month each year in the US. Otherwise, it is fully taxable. So plan your holidays to the US to see your family carefully and don't overstay a single day.

My US doctor was talking some similar nonsense about moving overseas and wanted my input. I have permanent residency in Thailand for life and I think that that deal beats other countries. Yeah, but I'm going to give that up and stay close to home. Funny that people like to talk about doing the opposite never really understand what that means.

Excellent post.

Midtowner
11/20/2012, 08:52 AM
Secondly, why don't all of you get out and let us have this place back. Yeah we were stone age, but that's far preferable to this Idiocracy we are creating now. And no you Mexicans didn't own this land before the whites, you're all European too. Spain wants people, go there..

Spain has a progressive tax code which puts you at a 0-52% tax rate depending on your income. Corporate tax rates are between 25-30%, and depending on what you buy or sell, there's a Capital gains/VAT of between 4%, 10% or 21%. Still sound like a great idea?

Killerbees
11/20/2012, 09:23 AM
Me and Mrs own a place in Singapore and she is still a Singaporean, so its just a matter a filing a few papers and moving to become a PR there.

IF (and thats a big if) I ever did that then no way in hell I would continue to pay US taxes. One way or the other.

And yes the tax rate is much better in SG.

badger
11/20/2012, 09:55 AM
I'd like to think that Oklahoma would follow Texas. In reality nobody wants to admit the fact that Oklahoma is just Diet Texas but that's the way it is.

Because that will really stop people from entering that state at all borders, won't it? :D

It might as well be Grapes of Wrath there, where everyone, regardless of where they come from, is an "Okie" and they'll start limiting how many can move to their state... scuze me, their "Republic" :texan:

KantoSooner
11/20/2012, 10:01 AM
Ireland.
Seriously, Fanin? Have you been there? If you are thinking to move because you despise Obama, take this on board: Obama would be a far right reactionary in Ireland. He would be a tea party tax dodger. Ireland is so far left of anything we've ever had in this country that it beggars comparison.
Secondly, if the US economy gets the sniffles, Ireland will be tits up with the plague. Ireland has no economy to speak of. 'The Celtic Tiger' era was based on, 1) Free Money (bank rates of effectively 0% and they'd loan money to a pet monkey), and 2) Offering an income tax exemption to income derived from 'intellectual property'. Thus rock stars, actors, authors, etc halo'd in from all points of the compass (bidding up property, by the way, good luck finding that nice little cottage with a peat burning hearth). Now that they cancelled that, even U2 decided that life in Holland was very nice, thank you.
So, unless you're independently wealthy, and want to risk that wealth to the whims of Euro-socialists who NEED MONEY, figure on working in a knacker's yard, 'cause that's about what Eire has to offer these days.
I can understand keeping one's options open, but, in the event of social dissolution in this country, do you really think the emerald isle will be immune?
And they don't let you smoke in pubs in Dublin anymore. Bastidges.

JohnnyMack
11/20/2012, 10:23 AM
I'd like to think that Oklahoma would follow Texas. In reality nobody wants to admit the fact that Oklahoma is just Diet Texas but that's the way it is.

Pffftttt....hardly. Texas is just a wee bit more progressive than OK. We're like.....well.....a mess.

FaninAma
11/20/2012, 11:54 AM
Storing options up for what?
You just never know.

FaninAma
11/20/2012, 11:54 AM
Pffftttt....hardly. Texas is just a wee bit more progressive than OK. We're like.....well.....a mess.

There are pockets that aren't.

FaninAma
11/20/2012, 12:04 PM
Kanto,

I have considered all of those things. Actually, Irelands effective tax rate is about the same as ours after you add our FICA, medicare, state and local taxes into the equation. Ireland has a much lower corporate income tax. Their government debt to GDP is lower than ours although their personal debt to GDP is higher.

I am banking on the fact that Ireland And Europe will have hit bottom and already instituted some spending reforms about 5 years before this country does. Also, I am concerned that the United States will continue it's interventionist foreign policy and try to continue to be the world's policeman for the the forseeable future which affects my kids more than it does me.


And personally I don't see the divergent interests of this country's myriad socio-ethnic interest groups ever being on the same page. Diversity and multi-culturalism is a 2-edged sword IMO.

BTW I just found out one of the nurse's I work with is doing the same thing through her husband's family. Since I have started doing this the rest of my Dad's family wants us to share all of the information on how to do it.

KantoSooner
11/20/2012, 12:35 PM
It's up to you, Fanin. I just know that everywhere I lived or travelled in Asia had a good sized Irish ex-pat population who were there, largely, because they couldn't find work in Ireland. If you're in health care, you'll be fine as that is government run and will be one of the last things to have it's budget cut. And there's always a market.

I agree re: foreign policy, though some is unavoidable.

Couldn't disagree more about diversity. We live in a world that is increasingly interlinked. We Americans draw major benefits out of our practice in living in a diverse society vs some of the mono-cultural outfits out there. Think of the pathetic failure of the Japanese to internationalize more than a few of their companies. Contributory to their stagnation for the past 25 years? Retreat into cultural enclaves doesn't strike me as productive over the long term. But, if you are more comfortable and are in the final stages of a career, maybe it's for the best.

Oh, and say 'hi' to the Nigerians living in Dublin in government supplied housing. Apparently it's something of an irritant to Irishmen from down country who can't find work or a decent place to live. But, that's life in a heavily 'planned' society.

Anyway, best of luck to you. May the road rise to meet you...

diverdog
11/20/2012, 12:46 PM
Kanto,

I have considered all of those things. Actually, Irelands effective tax rate is about the same as ours after you add our FICA, medicare, state and local taxes into the equation. Ireland has a much lower corporate income tax. Their government debt to GDP is lower than ours although their personal debt to GDP is higher.

I am banking on the fact that Ireland And Europe will have hit bottom and already instituted some spending reforms about 5 years before this country does. Also, I am concerned that the United States will continue it's interventionist foreign policy and try to continue to be the world's policeman for the the forseeable future which affects my kids more than it does me.


And personally I don't see the divergent interests of this country's myriad socio-ethnic interest groups ever being on the same page. Diversity and multi-culturalism is a 2-edged sword IMO.

BTW I just found out one of the nurse's I work with is doing the same thing through her husband's family. Since I have started doing this the rest of my Dad's family wants us to share all of the information on how to do it.

I do worry about my boys having to fight in a stupid war.

5thYearSooner
11/20/2012, 01:59 PM
Well, surely 10 years living in Waco and going to the university of the Republic of Texas counts for something!

Are you suggesting any foreign student who went any US university and has been living(working) here (legally) for 10 years should be given US citizenship??

KantoSooner
11/20/2012, 02:23 PM
No, just Texan citizenship. It's a subordinate subset.

Texans. Everyone should own at least 2 or 3 of 'em. Good, hard workers when you use the lash sparingly. And some of their women are more than passable. Stay away from their godawful beef, though; it's not really their fault, they just don't have decent grass to feed them up on.

FaninAma
11/20/2012, 03:03 PM
I do worry about my boys having to fight in a stupid war.

Have a friend from high school whose only son was killed in the last Iraq war within the first 2 weeks of fighting. He is actually a dead man walking right now. That's when I started really disliking Bush and that faction of the Republican Party.

Kanto, I have a little nest egg saved up and I hear( or Know) the Irish like to drink. I may just open up a little pub or B&B there. You just never know.

LiveLaughLove
11/20/2012, 03:41 PM
Spain has a progressive tax code which puts you at a 0-52% tax rate depending on your income. Corporate tax rates are between 25-30%, and depending on what you buy or sell, there's a Capital gains/VAT of between 4%, 10% or 21%. Still sound like a great idea?

I wasn't talking about going there nitwit. I was saying the Mexicans can get the heck off my continent by going back to Spain.

So yeah, I think its a great idea.

You guys are screwing my continent up so I wasn't you all to get the heck out. Europe is already screwed so go there and add to the screwed up-ness of them.

Tulsa_Fireman
11/20/2012, 06:00 PM
You should seriously consider Germany, Fan. I am. Just as soon as they start taking in 37 year old firemen.

FaninAma
11/20/2012, 07:19 PM
You should seriously consider Germany, Fan. I am. Just as soon as they start taking in 37 year old firemen.
That's the nice thing about the EU. If you are a citizen of one EU country you have a lot of access to all other EU member countries.

StoopTroup
11/20/2012, 09:39 PM
I can't wait until you see what your options really are when you get settled in over there.

This is so damn funny. I'm not even going to try and talk you out of it. Life has a funny way of explaining just how stupid we can be when we think we have options.

FaninAma
11/20/2012, 09:51 PM
I can't wait until you see what your options really are when you get settled in over there.

This is so damn funny. I'm not even going to try and talk you out of it. Life has a funny way of explaining just how stupid we can be when we think we have options.

I didn't realize I was moving yet. Do you know something I don't? And may I ask the source of your immense personal knowledge about Ireland?

BTW, only a future Democrat voter would immigrate to a country without having arranged employment, assessed the education sytem or the social lifestyle of the place
you are moving to.

Finally, why does this bother you to the point of trying to insult me over it? I think it would be stupid to not apply for Irish/EU citizenship. There is no possible down side.

StoopTroup
11/20/2012, 09:56 PM
I didn't realize I was moving yet. Do you know something I don't? And may I ask the source of your immense personal knowledge about Ireland?

BTW, only a future Democrat voter would immigrate to a country without having arranged employment, assessed the education sytem or the social lifestyle of the place you are moving to.

Why yes I do. It's something you get to experience on your own. I really do hope your life will be better there. God Bless you and your Family Fan.

I have no idea what you are talking about with the Democrat thing...

I'm just saying that you will learn a lot about Ireland. There is good and bad anywhere you go. If you think it's better there...who am I to try and tell you anything? You should go. There's nothing wrong with getting an education first hand.

olevetonahill
11/20/2012, 10:21 PM
Fan, I think ya gotcha a Stalker :welcoming:

FaninAma
11/20/2012, 10:31 PM
Why yes I do. It's something you get to experience on your own. I really do hope your life will be better there. God Bless you and your Family Fan.

I have no idea what you are talking about with the Democrat thing...

I'm just saying that you will learn a lot about Ireland. There is good and bad anywhere you go. If you think it's better there...who am I to try and tell you anything? You should go. There's nothing wrong with getting an
education first hand.

No, there's more than my welfare motivating your response. Could it be that somebody might disagree enough with the progressive direction this country has
taken that they might consider looking at opportunities
elsewhere?

Like I said, Irish citizenship is only a door to easier access to the EU and other commonwealth nations. Who knows what opportunites might open up. Personally I think there will be competition for educated skilled
individuals with capital among some of these countries.

BTW Ireland has already rescinded their law that confirms Irish citizenship on the children of immigrants born there. I wonder why ?

diverdog
11/20/2012, 10:35 PM
No, there's more than my welfare motivating your response. Could it be that somebody might disagree enough with the progressive direction this country has taken that they might consider looking at opportunities
elsewhere?

Like I said, Irish citizenship is only a door to easier access to the EU and other commonwealth nations. Who knows what opportunites might open up. Personally I think there will be competition for educated skilled individuals with capital among some of these countries.

BTW Ireland has already rescinded their law that confirms Irish citizenship in the children of immigeants born there. I wonder why they did thst?

You do know that if the US implodes the rest of the world will follow in quick order...don't you? There will be no safe haven.

FaninAma
11/20/2012, 10:37 PM
Fan, I think ya gotcha a Stalker :welcoming:
I just think ST would miss me if I left.

olevetonahill
11/20/2012, 10:40 PM
I just think ST would miss me if I left.

Prolly so. he has so few who even try to read his rants anymore

Chuck Bao
11/21/2012, 04:36 AM
This whole thread is comedy gold.

Thanks for the "I'm moving to Ireland" laugh.

It's like that economic meltdown thread that we were having so much fun with until some party pooper posted that most of us really couldn't actually manage to live off the land.

Dang it! I had my end of the world spot already planned.

diverdog
11/21/2012, 05:37 AM
This whole thread is comedy gold.

Thanks for the "I'm moving to Ireland" laugh.

It's like that economic meltdown thread that we were having so much fun with until some party pooper posted that most of us really couldn't actually manage to live off the land.

Dang it! I had my end of the world spot already planned.

Sorry.

Chuck Bao
11/21/2012, 06:12 AM
Never mind, Diverdog, reality often does get into the way of some really tremendous bravado.

olevetonahill
11/21/2012, 07:48 AM
This whole thread is comedy gold.

Thanks for the "I'm moving to Ireland" laugh.

It's like that economic meltdown thread that we were having so much fun with until some party pooper posted that most of us really couldn't actually manage to live off the land.

Dang it! I had my end of the world spot already planned.

Chuck, I know you have better reading comprehension than that,
Where did he say he WAS MOVING ti Ireland?
He didnt, He did however say he was applying for his Citizenship there, which would give him DUAL citizenship.

Said that is ONE possible option . Not necessarily something he was going to do.
Yall carry on making fun of a subject that you fail to try to comprehend the posters statements .

Mississippi Sooner
11/21/2012, 09:17 AM
I just know one thing. I ain't moving to any country where they think a football is round, and it's played on something called a "pitch."

stoops the eternal pimp
11/21/2012, 09:20 AM
I just know one thing. I ain't moving to any country where they think a football is round, and it's played on something called a "pitch."

http://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/I+posted+your+win+in+latest+uploads+but+it+got+_ef 8147fa18689553fc210081c1fa5eeb.gif

olevetonahill
11/21/2012, 09:36 AM
I just know one thing. I ain't moving to any country where they think a football is round, and it's played on something called a "pitch."

No ****.

KantoSooner
11/21/2012, 10:41 AM
Fanin,
When you get serious about the move and/or the pub, let me know. My neighborhood publican in Tokyo (weird, yes, we had a neighborhood Irish pub) had owned/run a pub in Dublin. Moved to Tokyo and went to work for an owner there because of the poor living in Ireland.
Whether you take him at his word or not, he knows the ins and outs of running pubs so that you can make a buck (or euro). Also one of the few people I've ever seen who could do the shamrock thingie on a pint of stout...with two hands simultaneously.

FaninAma
11/21/2012, 01:25 PM
Fanin,
When you get serious about the move and/or the pub, let me know. My neighborhood publican in Tokyo (weird, yes, we had a neighborhood Irish pub) had owned/run a pub in Dublin. Moved to Tokyo and went to work for an owner there because of the poor living in Ireland.
Whether you take him at his word or not, he knows the ins and outs of running pubs so that you can make a buck (or euro). Also one of the few people I've ever seen who could do the shamrock thingie on a pint of stout...with two hands simultaneously.

That guy sounds awesome. I don't know how old you are but after pulling the plow for 30+ years you start to think about different things you might want to do with the reamining 15 or 20 years of productive time you have left. It is really not about politics although I have no love of the direction the level of gevernment dependency is headed in this country.

Ireland does spend a lower percentage of their GDP on entitlements. They have a lower single mother birth rate and in many ways are a lot more tradiotonal thant this society. But as ol' vet said, I am not moving there in the forseeable future. However, from the curt reatcion I've gotten form a few I seem to have hit a nerve.

hawaii 5-0
11/22/2012, 11:56 AM
Live your life to the fullest.

If you want to live part of your life somewhere else......do it !

I did and I sure don't regret it.

I'd still love to live extended times in New Zealand and Switzerland.

5-0

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/22/2012, 12:40 PM
Ireland does spend a lower percentage of their GDP on entitlements. They have a lower single mother birth rate and in many ways are a lot more tradiotonal thant this society. But as ol' vet said, I am not moving there in the forseeable future. However, from the curt reatcion I've gotten form a few I seem to have hit a nerve.

one should not fight nor even take issue with the Progressive, who is wiser than you by definition. Your role in life is to stand there and take it in the shorts. By hook or crook, they have won elections, and now are in control of our country, with full police power. Do as they say, and STFU!

FaninAma
11/22/2012, 01:59 PM
one should not fight nor even take issue with the Progressive, who is wiser than you by definition. Your role in life is to stand there and take it in the shorts. By hook or crook, they have won elections, and now are in control of our country, with full police power. Do as they say, and STFU!
Hell, I am surprised the progressives haven't started a government program that encourages white men and their families to move out of the country.

SouthCarolinaSooner
11/24/2012, 12:12 PM
Both paternal grandparents were born in Ireland so it should be a done deal. Will hold dual citizenship but with white men rapidly becoming persona non-grata in this country it always nice to have options.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/dnc-chair-gop-they-got-whiter-and-more-male
Owwwww, it must really hurt having 43 of you in a row as president and the lion's share of congress as well.

FaninAma
11/25/2012, 03:04 PM
Owwwww, it must really hurt having 43 of you in a row as president and the lion's share of congress as well.

Hey, it's always a good idea to consider leaving the party when you start becoming the butt of the jokes and being blamed for breaking wind at the punch bowl even though you were standing across the room after you find out they put everything on your tab.

StoopTroup
11/28/2012, 02:26 PM
That guy sounds awesome. I don't know how old you are but after pulling the plow for 30+ years you start to think about different things you might want to do with the reamining 15 or 20 years of productive time you have left. It is really not about politics although I have no love of the direction the level of gevernment dependency is headed in this country.

Ireland does spend a lower percentage of their GDP on entitlements. They have a lower single mother birth rate and in many ways are a lot more tradiotonal thant this society. But as ol' vet said, I am not moving there in the forseeable future. However, from the curt reatcion I've gotten form a few I seem to have hit a nerve.

I think I read this in Junior High. It really gets one thinking about what it would be like if things didn't exactly go your way.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B5yyvKFxqdk/T7u9_EUpgvI/AAAAAAAACV4/bn6Ctmu_yXs/s1600/51RCFBMY6VL.jpg

BTW....you didn't hit a nerve with me. I chose America as the place to live a long time ago. I had plenty of opportunity to travel abroad and I did. I haven't ever found a better place than America. There have been some places I think I could have stayed awhile but none I could replace America with. Thus....I stuck with this old saying a long time ago....

America....Love it...or Leave It.

FaninAma
11/28/2012, 06:10 PM
America....Love it...or Leave It.

I'm mulling it over. Maybe I'll become a free agent.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/28/2012, 06:28 PM
Hey, it's always a good idea to consider leaving the party when you start becoming the butt of the jokes and being blamed for breaking wind at the punch bowl even though you were standing across the room after you find out they put everything on your tab.NO SHIITE! Our country is in uncharted waters.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/28/2012, 06:33 PM
FWIW I'm listening to the"Irish Heartbeat" CD, with Van Morrison and the Chieftans. It's pretty damn good. Reminds me of Van in his hayday, along with the Irish tunes and instruments. Recommended.

KantoSooner
11/29/2012, 09:43 AM
Dubliners are good, too. Get an old one before Jim McAnn's voice started to go.

StoopTroup
12/6/2012, 06:00 PM
FWIW I'm listening to the"Irish Heartbeat" CD, with Van Morrison and the Chieftans. It's pretty damn good. Reminds me of Van in his hayday, along with the Irish tunes and instruments. Recommended.
One of my favorites was a guy named Robbie O'Connell.