Polls update

[badger]

OU fell two spots to lucky 13 after losing to UCLA at home (http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8652681/stanford-cardinal-edge-uconn-huskies-new-no-1-ap-poll). Baylor, WVU, Texas, Pokette and Kansas are the other Big 12 ranked teams.

The end of an era: Ford's Pokes are finally ranked (for the first time since his Stillwater arrival) after upsetting NC State. (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8652787/indiana-hoosiers-louisville-cardinals-1-2-ap-poll-kentucky-wildcats-fall-8th) OU will need to keep winning to get mentions, but it'll happen. Our local media has votes too. KU and Baylor are the only other ranked Big 12 teams... that can't bode well for our conference RPI/SoS/wtf come tourney time.

[CowboyMRW]

Big time win last night. He might not be a very good coach, but he can recruit, and Smart is the best recruit OSU has ever brought in

[8timechamps]

Big time win last night. He might not be a very good coach, but he can recruit, and Smart is the best recruit OSU has ever brought in

I am officially impressed with both OSU team this year and Smart. The kid is a very good player.

I think the Pokes will make quiet a bit of noise this year, sadly.

[8timechamps]

OU fell two spots to lucky 13 after losing to UCLA at home (http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8652681/stanford-cardinal-edge-uconn-huskies-new-no-1-ap-poll). Baylor, WVU, Texas, Pokette and Kansas are the other Big 12 ranked teams.

The end of an era: Ford's Pokes are finally ranked (for the first time since his Stillwater arrival) after upsetting NC State. (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8652787/indiana-hoosiers-louisville-cardinals-1-2-ap-poll-kentucky-wildcats-fall-8th) OU will need to keep winning to get mentions, but it'll happen. Our local media has votes too. KU and Baylor are the only other ranked Big 12 teams... that can't bode well for our conference RPI/SoS/wtf come tourney time.

In order for the men's team to get a sniff of the top 25 is to go undefeated OOC. That would include a win over what appears to be decent Arkansas and A&M teams.

With KU, OSU & Baylor already ranked, and Texas right on the edge, conference play is going to be tough. I will be VERY happy if this team can get to 17 or 18 wins.

[CowboyMRW]

In order for the men's team to get a sniff of the top 25 is to go undefeated OOC. That would include a win over what appears to be decent Arkansas and A&M teams.

With KU, OSU & Baylor already ranked, and Texas right on the edge, conference play is going to be tough. I will be VERY happy if this team can get to 17 or 18 wins.

Lon Kruger is a very good coach and will have OU playing excellent ball come conference play.

OU easily has more talent this year than last year, especially if Cam Clark gets it figured out. I know I was sad when he didn't choose OSU. Plus Fitz might be the most under-rated player in the conference.

[badger]

We were on the edge last year till the Billikens exposed us. Then, we were pretty much done with coming close to the rankings :(

OKLAST may be ranked now, but they will NOT be ranked by Sunday... because we will beat them...

...in football.

Basketball? Welllll.. maybe our engineers will have the invisible hoop shield up and running by then. Let's hope they remember to put it over the POKE basket for BOTH halves. :P

[badger]

With Baylor dropped from the rankings, Big 12 now only has two mens teams (KU and Poke) ranked. Linky (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings)

On the women's side, however, six Big 12 teams are ranked by the AP, including OU at No. 12. Linky (http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings)

[badger]

KU and OKLAST continue to be the only Big 12 mens teams ranked, but the Baylors and EMAWs are getting votes: Linky (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20121203_93_0_Indian15748)

Sooner women dropped to lucky 13 just behind undefeated whorn (probably because we have one loss and they don't... or word has gotten out that we have NINE players on our roster who aren't OUT ALL SEASON WITH INJURIES!). However, the conference is well-rep'd with Skeletor third, whorn 12th, Pokette sweet 17, KU 18th, and fight fight fight for Iowa State 22nd. Also receiving votes were Skeltor-voted-first West Virginia: Linky (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=234&articleid=20121203_234_0_Stanfo749395)

This is shaping up to be a token-two bid season for the Big 12, isn't it?

[badger]

KU and OKLAST are still the only Big 12 teams ranked on the men's side. No other Big 12 teams are even getting pity votes. Derp.

On the women's side, Big 12 continues to be the strongest conference in the sport, with 6 ranked teams (Bail, OU, OKLASTette, lady whorn, female rock chalk and mountie) and another receiving votes (can't think of way to make fun of Iowa State at the moment).

Idea: Expand the basketball poll to beyond 25 teams.

Why:
1- More schools play D-1 basketball than D-1 football
2- More teams make THE postseason (NCAA tournament) in basketball than THE postseason (the BCS) in football.

We should hear about bracket busting mid-majors for the first time in March. Let's hear about them all season! Let's help people fill out their 68-team brackets! Let's expand the rankings to...

35??? (which would be pointless, since about 10 teams are always among "always receiving votes")

50! (much better!)

[badger]

The Big 12 just added another ranked team: Kansas State (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20121224_93_0_Dukean860433). So now, with KU and Poke, we have a grand total of three ranked teams on the mens side. Yay?

On the womens side, Baylor continues to be the unquestioned hated ones. Pokette is still undefeated, so they're like the Tech women of last year: Creampuff non-conference schedule to move up the rankings. Yay? Actually, they are to be feared and respected this time around, even if they don't have another Andrea Riley on their hands.

Other ranked teams on the womens side are us, lady whorn, and Kansas, but NOT West Vaginny, which dropped out again. (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=234&articleid=20121224_234_0_Stanfo678523)

A hearty pat on the back to Colorado, who despite their lackluster showing in the Pac 12 on the football side, have shown some basketball potential on both the mens and womens side.

[CowboyMRW]

The Big 12 just added another ranked team: Kansas State (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20121224_93_0_Dukean860433). So now, with KU and Poke, we have a grand total of three ranked teams on the mens side. Yay?

On the womens side, Baylor continues to be the unquestioned hated ones. Pokette is still undefeated, so they're like the Tech women of last year: Creampuff non-conference schedule to move up the rankings. Yay? Actually, they are to be feared and respected this time around, even if they don't have another Andrea Riley on their hands.

Other ranked teams on the womens side are us, lady whorn, and Kansas, but NOT West Vaginny, which dropped out again. (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=234&articleid=20121224_234_0_Stanfo678523)

A hearty pat on the back to Colorado, who despite their lackluster showing in the Pac 12 on the football side, have shown some basketball potential on both the mens and womens side.

I don't know how good we actually are, but I do know that Brittney Martin is the real deal. She's only a true freshman but she is very, very good. We seem to shoot the ball from 3 very well, but I'm worried about our inside play. Toni Young is the only one that I know has a chance to get every rebound.

Also, we have the nation's longest winning streak. That is a contributing factor to our ranking. And this team is still playing for Kurt which is a huge emotional boost.

[badger]

I don't know how good we actually are, but I do know that Brittney Martin is the real deal. She's only a true freshman but she is very, very good. We seem to shoot the ball from 3 very well, but I'm worried about our inside play. Toni Young is the only one that I know has a chance to get every rebound.

Also, we have the nation's longest winning streak. That is a contributing factor to our ranking. And this team is still playing for Kurt which is a huge emotional boost.

It was really cool that the recruit that Kurt et al went to go see on that fateful plane ride ended up coming to Stillwater. Alas, she'll be tagged as *that* recruit the rest of her career.

Your mens team has been more impressive than I would like to admit. The fact that you need Boonie to pony up for thousands of tickets to get people back in GIA is far more embarrassing that most Pokes would like to admit.

But, regardless, I still have very, VERY blind faith in Lon Kruger and Sherri Coale and will be willing to put up the thought of an embarrassing avatar, sig and location here if you are once again. If you want to make it something that gets OP all riled up like last year's that would be fine.

Sooner Magic/Poke Luck: Basketball edition

1.12: Men in Norman
2.10: Women in Norman
2.16: Men in Stillwater
2.20: Women in Stillwater
Week of 3.8 to 3.13: Potential Big 12 men/women showdown in KC (men) or Dallas (women)

Yes, I also think having the two tourneys in different cities will be an uber phail.

PS: I am talking about straight up victory, NO point spreads considered.

[CowboyMRW]

Everyone is on Christmas break and the game is on NYE. I don't think it's a huge deal that he bought 4000 tickets and gave them away. This is a massive game for us.

I'll make the bet with you. 2.10 is the one I'm most scared of.

Our men's team is an excellent defensive team for the first time since Eddie. So even if we have an off night offensively, I think we can still put up just enough points to pull it out.

[badger]

OK, here's how it goes:

To the loser go the opponent's everything until the next game. The everything can be reverted back to normal after a new basketball champion is crowned... likely somebody stupid like Duke :mad:

Sound OK(last) to you? :stunned:

[CowboyMRW]

What happens when OSU wins the championship in basketball this year? I already booked my Final 4 tickets that's how confident I am

[badger]

What happens when OSU wins the championship in basketball this year? I already booked my Final 4 tickets that's how confident I am

Setting yourself up for another missed field goal in overtime versus Iowa State, I see :stunned:

[Chuck Bao]

What happens when OSU wins the championship in basketball this year? I already booked my Final 4 tickets that's how confident I am

My family has booked tix to the Big XII tourny in Dallas, which isn't any further away than Norman and we can drive down 3 days consecutive when OU advances. There is absolutely no fail in that from our viewpoint and much, much better than having the tourny in a far off non-Big XII state. But the car ride home may be uncomfortable when Baylor wins the championship. Ha!

[badger]

My family has booked tix to the Big XII tourny in Dallas, which isn't any further away than Norman and we can drive down 3 days consecutive when OU advances. There is absolutely no fail in that from our viewpoint and much, much better than having the tourny in a far off non-Big XII state. But the car ride home may be uncomfortable when Baylor wins the championship. Ha!

Hardly. Everyone expects Baylor to win. I expect YOU to be on the uncomfortable side when OU shocks the world and defeats Baylor, and everyone else. We'll probably only have four active players by then, adding to the shock and misery.

As SicEm would say: "Prepare your anus (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?162664-Prepare-Your-Anus)."

[badger]

It appears that all of the polls are out. KSU is on the outside edge of one, but No. 25 in the other, while OSU is in the mid-20s and KU is No. 6 in both. No "also" votes, so just those three right now on the men's side. Still, three is better than two.

On the women's side, Baylor is making people forget that they lost to Stanford (who got obliterated by the Conn) and rose to No. 2 by 100-pointing some nobody.

Also mentioned are undefeated OSU (10-0), us, and KU. Among the "also" votes are Iowa State, West Virginia and Texas.

[CowboyMRW]

Tonight we find out if OSU is for real or not. Huge game for not only OSU but Big XII perception thus year

[badger]

Tonight we find out if OSU is for real or not. Huge game for not only OSU but Big XII perception thus year

As real as reality TV. Ah well, you came close, closer than many teams.

But, wins are always better than losses, so OU > oklast, at least on Monday :stunned:

[badger]

The Big 12 now has five ranked teams on the womens side, two on the men's.

Men:
;Record;Pts;Prv
1. Duke (62);14-0;1,622;1
2. Michigan (3);15-0;1,553;2
3. Louisville;13-1;1,447;4
4. Arizona;14-0;1,442;3
5. Indiana;13-1;1,381;5
6. Kansas;12-1;1,322;6
7. Syracuse;14-1;1,211;7
8. Minnesota;14-1;1,121;9
9. Gonzaga;15-1;1,064;10
10. Missouri;11-2;1,006;12
11. Florida;10-2;922;13
12. Illinois;14-2;881;11
13. Creighton;14-1;789;16
14. Butler;12-2;761;17
15. Ohio St.;11-3;710;8
16. San Diego St.;12-2;591;19
17. Notre Dame;13-1;547;21
18. Kansas St.;12-2;472;25
19. Georgetown;10-2;441;15
20. NC State;12-2;438;23
21. Cincinnati;13-2;375;14
22. Michigan St.;12-3;267;18
23. Wichita St.;14-1;135;—
24. UNLV;13-2;113;—
25. New Mexico;13-2;102;20


Others receiving votes: VCU 94, Wyoming 87, Oklahoma St. 64, Marquette 41, UCLA 41, Maryland 29, Kentucky 27, Temple 13, Oregon 11, North Carolina 4, Pittsburgh 1.

Women:
Record Pts Prv
1. Baylor (32) 12-1 984 2
2. Notre Dame (2) 12-1 945 5
3. UConn (2) 12-1 907 1
4. Duke (4) 13-0 903 3
5. Stanford 13-1 860 4
6. Kentucky 13-1 791 6
7. California 12-1 747 7
8. Penn St. 12-2 706 9
9. Tennessee 11-3 667 12
10. Maryland 10-3 596 8
11. North Carolina 15-1 581 15
12. Purdue 13-2 537 14
13. Georgia 13-2 506 10
14. UCLA 11-2 451 16
15. Louisville 12-3 411 11
16. Oklahoma 12-2 388 17
17. Kansas 11-2 264 21
18. Florida St. 12-2 255 19
18. South Carolina 13-2 255 18
20. Texas A&M 12-4 241 24
21. Oklahoma St. 10-2 229 13
22. Dayton 12-1 225 22
23. Colorado 11-2 121 20
24. Miami 12-2 115 —
25. Iowa St. 11-1 91 —

Others receiving votes: Nebraska 74, Vanderbilt 59, Michigan 25, Syracuse 22, Arkansas 14, DePaul 7, Michigan St. 7, UTEP 6, Illinois 4, Villanova 3, Texas Tech 2, Wyoming 1.

The unquestioned loser this week on both sides is Poke. The women were undefeated and rose to No. 13, before getting humbled by both Tech and Baylor. The Poke men had only one loss going into this week (on the road at Va Tech) and then came out of this week with two more respectable, but still... LOSSES, to KSU (now ranked No. 18) and Gonzaga (now No. 9).

The winner? Kansas State men was barely in the polls last week but jumped to No. 18, so the Octagon of Doom might be back (in time for us to beat them twice again, lol). For the women, I'll go sympathetically with Iowa State, since they are about to get their second loss of the season as they meet Baylor (now No. 1 again). The real winner, however, is none other than our Oklahoma Sooners, who fought off an early West Virginia lead at LNC to get victory in the final minutes (trailed the entire game up to that point) and also coming away with a victory in Austin against "rival" Texas (hard to think of them like that as much anymore since they've sucked lately). Is this the same team that lost four players and was down to 8 active roster athletes?!

[tycat947]

The Big 12 now has five ranked teams on the womens side, two on the men's.

Men:
;Record;Pts;Prv
1. Duke (62);14-0;1,622;1
2. Michigan (3);15-0;1,553;2
3. Louisville;13-1;1,447;4
4. Arizona;14-0;1,442;3
5. Indiana;13-1;1,381;5
6. Kansas;12-1;1,322;6
7. Syracuse;14-1;1,211;7
8. Minnesota;14-1;1,121;9
9. Gonzaga;15-1;1,064;10
10. Missouri;11-2;1,006;12
11. Florida;10-2;922;13
12. Illinois;14-2;881;11
13. Creighton;14-1;789;16
14. Butler;12-2;761;17
15. Ohio St.;11-3;710;8
16. San Diego St.;12-2;591;19
17. Notre Dame;13-1;547;21
18. Kansas St.;12-2;472;25
19. Georgetown;10-2;441;15
20. NC State;12-2;438;23
21. Cincinnati;13-2;375;14
22. Michigan St.;12-3;267;18
23. Wichita St.;14-1;135;—
24. UNLV;13-2;113;—
25. New Mexico;13-2;102;20


Others receiving votes: VCU 94, Wyoming 87, Oklahoma St. 64, Marquette 41, UCLA 41, Maryland 29, Kentucky 27, Temple 13, Oregon 11, North Carolina 4, Pittsburgh 1.



WOW! Who'd a thunk that UCLA, Kentucky and North Carolina all ranked outside of Top 25 at same time and Creighton, Butler, San Diego St and Wichita St ALL ranked in Top 25 at the same time???

[badger]

WOW! Who'd a thunk that UCLA, Kentucky and North Carolina all ranked outside of Top 25 at same time and Creighton, Butler, San Diego St and Wichita St ALL ranked in Top 25 at the same time???

Another reason for football fans to turn to basketball now, aside from the season ending tonight, is that it is a lot easier for everyone to be competitive in basketball. The stadiums aren't as expensive, the equipment isn't as expensive, so virtually every school can field a D-1 basketball team.

Also, like the NFL, it's hard for one program to stay on top forever, but is impressive if you can pull it off.

[Bourbon St Sooner]

When is OU going to be competitive in basketball?


I kid.


Well maybe not.

[badger]

When is OU going to be competitive in basketball?


I kid.


Well maybe not.

We are right now, even if we have a few losses that keep us from being poll'd.

We actually got a few votes in one of the polls after we beat Texas A&M.

The Big 12 season will prove whether we are NIT or NCAA worthy. However, I guarantee you that both of our teams are worthy of your Sooner fandom this season.

[badger]

Our men aren't ranked yet, nor have they received any poll votes yet :(

YET! :)

The Big 12 mens teams that are receiving poll love are KU, KSU, Baylor, ISU and... Oklahoma State?! Ok then.

The women continue to be led by Baylor (grr), but OU and OSU are back to back in the poll at 16/17. Others mentioned are KU and ISU.

MEN:
USA Today/ESPN Top 25 Poll
Record Pts Pvs
1. Louisville (18) 15-1 753 4
2. Indiana (6) 15-1 718 5
3. Duke (7) 15-1 707 1
4. Kansas 14-1 680 6
5. Michigan 16-1 678 2
6. Syracuse 16-1 619 7
7. Arizona 15-1 574 3
8. Gonzaga 16-1 552 8
9. Florida 12-2 526 9
10. Creighton 16-1 489 11
11. Ohio State 13-3 436 14
12. Minnesota 15-2 433 10
13. Butler 14-2 370 17
14. San Diego State 14-2 366 15
15. N.C. State 14-2 321 21
16. Missouri 12-3 298 12
17. Michigan State 14-3 286 18
18. Kansas State 13-2 243 23
19. VCU 14-3 178 24
20. Notre Dame 14-2 155 16
21. New Mexico 15-2 147 —
22. Illinois 14-4 125 13
23. UNLV 14-3 109 19
24. Cincinnati 14-3 80 20
25. UCLA 14-3 38 —

Others receiving votes: Oregon 37, Georgetown 32, Marquette 23, Wisconsin 23, Wichita State 19, Mississippi 14, Wyoming 13, UConn 10, Miami 8, Oklahoma State 8, Boise State 2, Bucknell 2, Utah State 2, Iowa State 1.

Associated Press top 25
Record Pts Prv
1. Louisville (36) 15-1 1,591 3
2. Indiana (13) 15-1 1,527 5
3. Duke (14) 15-1 1,501 1
4. Kansas (1) 14-1 1,416 6
5. Michigan (1) 16-1 1,415 2
6. Syracuse 16-1 1,284 7
7. Arizona 15-1 1,205 4
8. Gonzaga 16-1 1,141 9
9. Minnesota 15-2 1,041 8
10. Florida 12-2 1,019 11
11. Ohio St. 13-3 939 15
12. Creighton 16-1 896 13
13. Butler 14-2 855 14
14. NC State 14-2 836 20
15. San Diego St. 14-2 704 16
16. Kansas St. 13-2 670 18
17. Missouri 12-3 598 10
18. Michigan St. 14-3 426 22
19. New Mexico 15-2 368 25
20. Notre Dame 14-2 295 17
21. Oregon 14-2 238 —
22. VCU 14-3 212 —
23. Illinois 14-4 199 12
24. UCLA 14-3 185 —
25. Marquette 12-3 177 —

Others receiving votes: Cincinnati 121, UConn 70, Georgetown 56, Mississippi 55, UNLV 26, Wisconsin 25, Boise St. 9, Miami 9, Wichita St. 6, Temple 5, Pittsburgh 2, Baylor 1, Utah St. 1, Wyoming 1.


WOMEN:
The Associated Press Women's Top 25

Record Pts Prv
1. Baylor (34) 14-1 991 1
2. Notre Dame (1) 14-1 948 2
3. UConn (2) 14-1 914 3
4. Duke (3) 15-0 907 4
5. Kentucky 15-1 817 6
6. Stanford 14-2 787 5
7. California 13-2 755 7
8. Penn St. 13-2 724 8
9. Tennessee 13-3 670 9
10. Maryland 12-3 615 10
11. North Carolina 17-1 590 11
12. Purdue 13-2 536 12
13. Georgia 15-2 519 13
14. UCLA 13-2 468 14
15. Louisville 14-3 422 15
16. Oklahoma 14-2 410 16
17. Oklahoma St. 12-2 324 21
18. Dayton 13-1 276 22
19. South Carolina 14-3 256 18
20. Texas A&M 13-5 233 20
21. Colorado 13-2 232 23
22. Florida St. 13-3 182 18
23. Kansas 11-4 124 17
24. Iowa St. 12-2 88 25
25. Michigan 14-2 86 —

Others receiving votes: Syracuse 39, Vanderbilt 23, Miami 12, Michigan St. 12, Nebraska 12, UTEP 8, Villanova 8, Iowa 5, Delaware 4, Arkansas 2, Creighton 1.

[badger]

Depending on what poll you look at, we might have just lost to the two No. 1 teams in the country. Meh.

MEN:

USA Today/ESPN Top 25 Poll
Record Pts Pvs
1. Kansas (16) 18-1 760 2
2. Michigan (14) 19-1 757 3
3. Indiana 18-2 686 8
4. Florida (1) 16-2 685 7
5. Duke 17-2 644 1
6. Syracuse 18-2 624 4
7. Gonzaga 19-2 580 10
8. Arizona 17-2 557 6
9. Michigan State 17-4 459 11
10. Butler 17-3 447 9
11. Ohio State 15-4 438 15
12. Oregon 18-2 435 19
13. Louisville 16-4 422 5
14. Wichita State 19-2 340 21
15. Miami 15-3 326 —
16. Mississippi 17-2 252 24
17. Creighton 18-3 249 12
18. Missouri 15-4 234 22
19. N.C. State 16-4 194 18
20. San Diego State 16-4 171 25
21. Kansas State 15-4 166 13
22. New Mexico 17-3 159 17
23. Cincinnati 16-4 134 20
24. Minnesota 15-5 87 14
25. Marquette 14-4 75 —

Others receiving votes: Georgetown 33, UNLV 32, VCU 27, Wisconsin 25, Pittsburgh 18, Notre Dame 13, UCLA 10, Baylor 7, Southern Miss. 7, Colorado State 6, Saint Mary's 5, La Salle 3, Oklahoma State 3, Arizona State 2, Middle Tennessee 2, Louisiana Tech 1.

The Associated Press Top 25
Record Pts Prv
1. Michigan (51) 19-1 1,611 2
2. Kansas (13) 18-1 1,572 3
3. Indiana 18-2 1,457 7
4. Florida (1) 16-2 1,420 8
5. Duke 17-2 1,328 1
6. Syracuse 18-2 1,322 3
7. Gonzaga 19-2 1,177 10
8. Arizona 17-2 1,160 6
9. Butler 17-3 1,023 9
10. Oregon 18-2 969 16
11. Ohio St. 15-4 945 14
12. Louisville 16-4 905 5
13. Michigan St. 17-4 897 13
14. Miami 15-3 894 25
15. Wichita St. 19-2 621 20
16. Mississippi 17-2 473 23
17. Missouri 15-4 464 22
18. Kansas St. 15-4 463 11
19. NC State 16-4 431 18
20. New Mexico 17-3 333 15
21. Creighton 18-3 312 17
22. San Diego St. 16-4 302 —
23. Minnesota 15-5 281 12
24. Cincinnati 16-4 220 21
25. Marquette 14-4 216 —

Others receiving votes: Georgetown 121, UNLV 56, Wisconsin 45, UCLA 34, Arizona St. 14, Notre Dame 12, Pittsburgh 10, Louisiana Tech 8, Villanova 6, Baylor 5, Iowa St. 4, Memphis 4, VCU 4, La Salle 3, Saint Mary's (Cal) 2, Colorado St. 1.

WOMEN:
The AP Women's Top 25
Record Pts Prv
1. Baylor (37) 18-1 997 1
2. Notre Dame 18-1 953 2
3. UConn (3) 18-1 930 3
4. Stanford 18-2 853 6
5. Duke 18-1 834 4
6. California 17-2 790 7
7. Penn St. 17-2 768 8
8. Kentucky 19-2 695 5
9. Tennessee 16-3 691 9
10. Maryland 17-3 674 10
11. North Carolina 19-2 495 11
12. Louisville 17-4 491 13
13. Georgia 17-3 470 14
14. Purdue 17-3 446 15
15. South Carolina 18-3 442 18
16. Texas A&M 16-5 435 16
17. Dayton 17-1 357 17
18. UCLA 15-4 339 19
19. Oklahoma St. 15-3 315 12
20. Florida St. 17-3 253 22
21. Oklahoma 15-4 211 20
22. Colorado 15-4 205 20
23. Iowa St. 14-4 102 24
24. Iowa 16-5 79 —
25. Delaware 15-3 66 —

Others receiving votes: Michigan 42, UTEP 21, Villanova 11, Texas Tech 10, Syracuse 6, Duquesne 4, Green Bay 4, Michigan St. 4, Kansas 2, Nebraska 2, Vanderbilt 2, LSU 1.

[badger]

Oh if only we had beaten our state of Kansas opponents too... our men got two votes in USA Today/ESPN, similar to when we beat Texas A&M earlier this season. If we had beaten KSU (grrrr) I think we would have snuck into a poll or two.

The women lost at West Virginia yesterday in the most horrendous fashion possible. It's so bad I'm not blogging about it... at least not yet. We dropped down to No. 23, probably because most pollsters didn't watch it (lucky them).

MEN:
The Associated Press top 25
;Record;Pts;Prv
1. Indiana (58);20-2;1,615;3
2. Florida (7);18-2;1,536;4
3. Michigan;20-2;1,490;1
4. Duke;19-2;1,413;5
5. Kansas;19-2;1,350;2
6. Gonzaga;21-2;1,249;7
7. Arizona;19-2;1,248;8
8. Miami;17-3;1,132;14
9. Syracuse;18-3;1,091;6
10. Ohio St.;17-4;1,033;11
11. Louisville;18-4;1,018;12
12. Michigan St.;18-4;994;13
13. Kansas St.;17-4;782;18
14. Butler;18-4;774;9
15. New Mexico;19-3;660;20
16. Creighton;20-3;578;21
17. Cincinnati;18-4;552;24
18. Minnesota;17-5;454;23
19. Oregon;18-4;390;10
20. Georgetown;16-4;364;—
21. Missouri;16-5;245;17
22. Oklahoma St.;15-5;235;—
23. Pittsburgh;18-5;207;—
24. Marquette;15-5;137;25
25. Notre Dame;18-4;132;—

Others receiving votes: Mississippi 75, NC State 64, Colorado St. 49, Wichita St. 49, Memphis 44, Wisconsin 28, Saint Mary's (Cal) 27, Louisiana Tech 24, Kentucky 21, San Diego St. 17, UNLV 13, Saint Louis 8, UCLA 8, VCU 8, Akron 4, Virginia 4, UConn 2, Belmont 1.

USA Today Top 25 Poll
;Record;Pts;Pvs
1. Indiana (25);20-2;766;3
2. Florida (6);18-2;742;4
3. Michigan;20-2;690;2
4. Duke;19-2;683;5
5. Kansas;19-2;654;1
6. Gonzaga;21-2;614;7
7. Arizona;20-2;601;8
8. Michigan State;18-4;518;9
9. Syracuse;18-3;514;6
10. Ohio State;17-4;502;11
11. Miami;17-3;485;15
12. Louisville;18-4;470;13
13. Creighton;20-3;369;17
14. Butler;18-4;325;10
15. Kansas State;17-4;314;21
16. New Mexico;19-3;295;22
17. Cincinnati;18-4;265;23
18. Minnesota;17-5;194;24
19. Oregon;18-4;179;12
20. Missouri;16-5;143;18
21. Georgetown;16-4;138;—
22. Wichita State;19-4;83;14
23. Mississippi;17-4;69;16
24. Oklahoma State;15-5;57;—
25. Pittsburgh;18-5;54;—
25. San Diego State;16-5;54;20

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame 47, Colorado State 38, Marquette 38, VCU 33, Wisconsin 25, N.C. State 24, Memphis 19, Saint Mary's 18, Southern Miss. 13, UNLV 12, Belmont 7, Louisiana Tech 6, Kentucky 4, Middle Tennessee 4, UCLA 4, Akron 2, Oklahoma 2, Saint Louis 1.

WOMEN:
Associated Press women's top 25
Record Pts Prv
1. Baylor (37) 20-1 997 1
2. Notre Dame 20-1 955 2
3. UConn (3) 20-1 928 3
4. Stanford 20-2 862 4
5. Duke 20-1 845 5
6. California 19-2 807 6
7. Maryland 18-3 753 10
8. Penn St. 17-3 642 7
9. Georgia 19-3 632 13
10. Kentucky 19-3 630 8
11. Louisville 19-4 553 12
12. Tennessee 17-5 512 9
13. Purdue 18-3 502 14
14. Texas A&M 17-5 497 16
15. South Carolina 19-3 480 15
16. North Carolina 20-3 458 11
17. UCLA 17-4 409 18
18. Dayton 19-1 397 17
19. Florida St. 18-4 223 20
20. Delaware 18-3 205 25
21. Colorado 16-5 162 22
22. Oklahoma St. 15-5 128 19
23. Oklahoma 16-5 127 21
24. Syracuse 18-3 80 —
25. Iowa St. 15-5 71 23

Others receiving votes: Green Bay 31, Nebraska 20, West Virginia 20, Michigan St. 19, Michigan 13, Toledo 11, Kansas 7, UTEP 5, Villanova 4, Washington 4, Miami 2, Middle Tennessee 2, Pacific 2, SMU 2, Creighton 1, Iowa 1, Wyoming 1.

[badger]

Be angry if you must:
MEN:
USA Today Top 25 Poll
Record Pts Pvs
1. Duke (18) 21-2 744 4
2. Indiana (6) 21-3 717 1
3. Gonzaga (1) 23-2 681 6
4. Miami (5) 19-3 674 11
5. Michigan (1) 21-3 663 3
6. Florida 19-3 628 2
7. Syracuse 20-3 608 9
8. Michigan State 20-4 582 8
9. Arizona 20-3 491 7
10. Butler 20-4 460 14
11. Kansas State 19-4 455 15
12. Louisville 19-5 393 12
13. Kansas 19-4 364 5
14. Ohio State 17-6 353 10
15. Georgetown 17-4 329 21
16. Oklahoma State 17-5 259 24
17. Pittsburgh 20-5 246 25
18. New Mexico 20-4 203 16
19. Wisconsin 17-7 150 —
20. Marquette 17-5 144 —
21. Notre Dame 19-5 140 —
22. San Diego State 18-5 120 25
23. Creighton 20-5 102 13
24. Colorado State 19-4 79 —
25. Memphis 20-3 76 —

Others receiving votes: Missouri 72, Oregon 63, Virginia Commonwealth 63, Cincinnati 38, Minnesota 28, Kentucky 27, Saint Mary's 27, Louisiana Tech 18, Saint Louis 13, Middle Tennessee 11, Mississippi 11, Illinois 10, Akron 9, UNLV 8, Wichita State 8, UCLA 3, Stephen F. Austin 2, Belmont 1, Oklahoma 1, Virginia 1.

The Associated Press Top 25
Record Pts Prv
1. Indiana (26) 21-3 1,559 1
2. Duke (20) 21-2 1,515 4
3. Miami (17) 19-3 1,499 8
4. Michigan 21-3 1,428 3
5. Gonzaga (2) 23-2 1,371 6
6. Syracuse 20-3 1,293 9
7. Florida 19-3 1,286 2
8. Michigan St. 20-4 1,178 12
9. Arizona 20-3 1,062 7
10. Kansas St. 19-4 1,012 13
11. Butler 20-4 943 14
12. Louisville 19-5 842 11
13. Ohio St. 17-6 828 10
14. Kansas 19-4 823 5
15. Georgetown 17-4 679 20
16. Pittsburgh 20-5 591 23
17. Oklahoma St. 17-5 587 22
18. Marquette 17-5 493 24
19. New Mexico 20-4 433 15
20. Wisconsin 17-7 305 —
21. Notre Dame 19-5 264 25
22. Memphis 20-3 193 —
23. Oregon 19-5 137 19
24. Colorado St. 19-4 125 —
25. Kentucky 17-6 87 —

Others receiving votes: Minnesota 80, Missouri 69, Cincinnati 68, Saint Mary's (Cal) 62, Creighton 56, San Diego St. 53, Louisiana Tech 43, VCU 35, Saint Louis 34, Illinois 26, NC State 24, Akron 12, UCLA 8, UNLV 6, Indiana St. 5, Virginia 4, Wichita St. 3, Belmont 2, Mississippi 1, Oklahoma 1.

WOMEN:
The Associated Press Women's Top 25
Record Pts Prv
1. Baylor (37) 22-1 997 1
2. Notre Dame 22-1 954 2
3. UConn (3) 21-1 929 3
4. Stanford 23-2 865 4
5. Duke 21-1 843 5
6. California 21-2 806 6
7. Maryland 19-3 753 7
8. Penn St. 20-3 697 8
9. Kentucky 21-3 657 10
10. Louisville 20-4 578 11
11. Texas A&M 19-5 576 14
12. Tennessee 19-5 575 12
13. Georgia 20-4 505 9
14. North Carolina 22-3 471 16
15. UCLA 19-4 451 17
16. South Carolina 20-4 412 15
17. Dayton 21-1 398 18
18. Purdue 18-5 318 13
19. Florida St. 19-4 266 19
20. Delaware 20-3 217 20
21. Colorado 18-5 188 21
22. Oklahoma 18-5 187 23
23. Syracuse 19-3 105 24
24. Iowa St. 17-5 75 25
25. Oklahoma St. 16-6 49 22

Others receiving votes: Green Bay 43, Nebraska 24, Michigan 11, Toledo 9, Michigan St. 8, West Virginia 8, Duquesne 5, SMU 5, LSU 4, Washington 4, San Diego St. 2, UTEP 2, Wyoming 2, DePaul 1.

EDIT: Once again, looking at W-L overall record, it would have been a HUGE stretch to put OU men in the top 25 this week at 15-7, emphasis on the 7 losses.

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There's a lot to be sad about for losing this weekend on both fronts. The losses by both teams meant we're both on the outside looking in... but at least we're looking:

Men:
The Associated Press Top 25
Record Pts Prv
1. Indiana (43) 23-3 1,597 1
2. Miami (20) 21-3 1,571 3
3. Gonzaga (2) 25-2 1,428 5
4. Michigan St. 22-4 1,416 8
5. Florida 21-3 1,387 7
6. Duke 22-3 1,308 2
7. Michigan 22-4 1,264 4
8. Syracuse 21-4 1,125 6
9. Kansas 21-4 1,077 14
10. Louisville 21-5 1,011 12
11. Georgetown 19-4 952 15
12. Arizona 21-4 924 9
13. Kansas St. 20-5 848 10
14. Oklahoma St. 19-5 786 17
15. Butler 21-5 659 11
16. New Mexico 22-4 654 19
17. Marquette 18-6 524 18
18. Ohio St. 18-7 458 13
19. Wisconsin 18-8 406 20
20. Pittsburgh 20-6 370 16
21. Memphis 22-3 362 22
22. Colorado St. 21-4 307 24
23. Oregon 21-5 216 23
24. VCU 21-5 123 —
25. Notre Dame 20-6 79 21

Others receiving votes: Saint Louis 58, Minnesota 52, Louisiana Tech 48, Illinois 46, Cincinnati 20, NC State 20, Akron 16, Missouri 4, Middle Tennessee 3, Maryland 2, Saint Mary's (Cal) 2, Creighton 1, Wichita St. 1.

USA Today Top 25 Poll
Record Pts Pvs
1. Indiana (19) 23-3 757 2
2. Miami (7) 21-3 728 4
3. Gonzaga (3) 25-2 710 3
4. Florida (2) 21-3 685 6
5. Michigan State 22-4 658 8
6. Duke 22-3 594 1
7. Michigan 22-4 561 5
8. Syracuse 21-4 541 7
9. Kansas 21-4 518 13
10. Louisville 21-5 511 12
11. Georgetown 19-4 457 15
12. Arizona 21-4 415 9
13. Kansas State 20-5 365 11
14. Oklahoma State 19-5 351 16
15. Butler 21-5 321 10
16. New Mexico 22-4 299 18
17. Wisconsin 18-8 258 19
18. Ohio State 18-7 239 14
19. Memphis 22-3 191 25
20. Marquette 18-6 190 20
21. Colorado State 21-4 182 24
22. Pittsburgh 20-6 161 17
23. Oregon 21-5 92 —
24. VCU 21-5 91 —
25. Notre Dame 20-6 50 21

Others receiving votes: Saint Louis 23, Akron 19, Saint Mary's 19, Cincinnati 16, Creighton 16, Middle Tennessee 15, Louisiana Tech 12, Illinois 9, Minnesota 7, San Diego State 3, UCLA 3, Wichita State 3, Missouri 2, Oklahoma 2, Kentucky 1.

Women:
The Associated Press womens top 25
Record Pts Prv
1. Baylor (38) 24-1 998 1
2. Notre Dame 24-1 955 2
3. UConn (2) 24-1 927 3
4. Stanford 24-2 868 4
5. Duke 24-1 843 5
6. California 23-2 805 6
7. Penn St. 21-3 724 8
8. Kentucky 22-3 698 9
8. Maryland 21-4 698 7
10. Texas A&M 20-5 622 11
11. Tennessee 20-5 599 12
12. Louisville 21-5 540 10
13. Georgia 21-4 530 13
14. Dayton 21-1 448 17
15. South Carolina 21-5 412 16
16. North Carolina 23-4 383 14
17. UCLA 19-6 372 15
18. Delaware 22-3 295 20
19. Florida St. 20-5 267 19
20. Colorado 20-5 253 21
21. Syracuse 21-3 196 23
22. Purdue 19-5 151 18
23. Oklahoma St. 18-6 103 25
24. Nebraska 19-6 81 —
25. Green Bay 21-2 65 —

Others receiving votes: Iowa St. 64, Michigan 36, Oklahoma 29, Toledo 15, Washington 7, West Virginia 5, SMU 4, LSU 3, San Diego St. 3, Michigan St. 1.

Seriously... if we never wear pink again I don't think we'd be dishonoring breast cancer awareness and prevention at all, especially if we never lose in those damn pinkie outfits anymore. It seems like every year we lose in pink. :mad:

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Even though it's not to the same extent, there is a media bias of the Big 10 in men's hoops. Purdue has no business being in the top 25, and I'm not sure Ohio State and Wisconsin belong there either.

As for OU, I think we're right where we should be. Right on the fringe. This team has had a chance 4 of the past 5 weeks to enter the top 25 with a weekend win, and just couldn't do it...with the schedule we have remaining, I think a top 25 appearance is likely by conference tournament time.

EDIT: I realized that Purdue is ranked in the woman's top 25...disregard my Purdue comment above.